Just received the telephone the day before yesterday. Tried to get my HRM to couple to the device, to no avail. Looking into the problem with ANT+ tester, I discovered ANT HAL is completely missing (the ANT HAL service is present though)! WTF?
Sony advertises this phone as being ANT+ capable, but clearly it's not (yet!). I've contacted Sony about this, and are awaiting for their reply...
You mean you sent a message into the void, don't you?
Definitively sent from somewhere.
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You mean you sent a message into the void, don't you?
Definitively sent from somewhere.
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Afraid so yes... But miracles do happen still...
Maybe you got a test or demo unit. ?
㊙Send from somewhere on the earth™ ?
I'm about to buy this phone but the missing ANT+ support is stopping me to do so.
It is obvious that ANT+ support on Z5 series is missing. Neither the tech specs on the sony product page show ANT+ under connectivity nor the device list of the ANT+ consortium (http://www.thisisant.com/directory/) lists the Xperia Z5 devices. All previous Xperia devices were shown immediately after the release day on this list.
For me this looks like Sony has dropped ANT+ support. Maybe they try to make pressure on Garmin to lower the license cost for ANT+. Who knows.
jexxer said:
I'm about to buy this phone but the missing ANT+ support is stopping me to do so.
It is obvious that ANT+ support on Z5 series is missing. Neither the tech specs on the sony product page show ANT+ under connectivity nor the device list of the ANT+ consortium (http://www.thisisant.com/directory/) lists the Xperia Z5 devices. All previous Xperia devices were shown immediately after the release day on this list.
For me this looks like Sony has dropped ANT+ support. Maybe they try to make pressure on Garmin to lower the license cost for ANT+. Who knows.
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That would be disturbing. But a bit strange though, since ANT+ tester shows full ANT+ hardware and ANT HAL service etc. being present in the phone.
Reply from Sony on my enquiry was of course to throw back more questions to me and giving stupid advice like "repair your phone with out PC Companion software". When I checked this suggestion, just out of curiosity, the Z5 series wasn't even supported in this software, can you imagine? Fail, fail, fail.
Yeah looks like they crippled/removed ANT+ support in the last minute before release, maybe they missed to pay the license I really hope ANT+ support will be added with the next update.
jexxer said:
Yeah looks like they crippled/removed ANT+ support in the last minute before release, maybe they missed to pay the license I really hope ANT+ support will be added with the next update.
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thanks for this. i have tested my sunto hrm and indeed my x3 tablet can see it while my z5 compact cannot.
i have sent email to sony mobile, hope thye are aware of this
That is a ridiculous move if they've dropped ant
masi0 said:
thanks for this. i have tested my sunto hrm and indeed my x3 tablet can see it while my z5 compact cannot.
i have sent email to sony mobile, hope thye are aware of this
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Well, here in the Netherlands I don't even get replies from the Sony reps anymore. I've been exchanging FB messages with support, but all they do is refer to this stupid PC Companion software, which obviously can't solve the problem (especially since my Z5c is going completely crazy when I try to connect it to Win10 through USB. It's impossible to get a stable connection with the computer)...
As a "solution" I've now bought a dual-band HRM strap (Bluetooth and ANT+ capable) which set me back another 60 euros. Still better than having to wait for Sony to fix the problem they've created themselves, because that can take a long while, if ever!
karimero said:
Well, here in the Netherlands I don't even get replies from the Sony reps anymore. I've been exchanging FB messages with support, but all they do is refer to this stupid PC Companion software, which obviously can't solve the problem (especially since my Z5c is going completely crazy when I try to connect it to Win10 through USB. It's impossible to get a stable connection with the computer)...
As a "solution" I've now bought a dual-band HRM strap (Bluetooth and ANT+ capable) which set me back another 60 euros. Still better than having to wait for Sony to fix the problem they've created themselves, because that can take a long while, if ever!
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none of mobile producers will admin that they released software with gaps, i expect this to be fixed in the new update
no update from sony yet, no ANT+ dedicated services installed by default
Surely the z5c is equipped with ANT+ h/w, just for whatever reason Sony haven't activated it into the current firmware... Correct? Or the device totally not equipped for ANT+?
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Surely the z5c is equipped with ANT+ h/w, just for whatever reason Sony haven't activated it into the current firmware... Correct? Or the device totally not equipped for ANT+?
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I hope Z5 line is ANT+ equipped as per official specs but not enabled yet due to certification process not completed (as devices still not visible on thisisant website)
I have return mine today and asked for replacement (white unit)
Strange as in store Z5c had no problems detecting my suunto hrm
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Surely the z5c is equipped with ANT+ h/w, just for whatever reason Sony haven't activated it into the current firmware... Correct? Or the device totally not equipped for ANT+?
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This document from Sony says ANT+ is supported:
"Device-to-device communications (local)
ANT+™ wireless technology
Compatible devices Some ANT+™ compatible devices may require installation of additional
software.
Frequency band 2.4 GHz
Data transfer rate Up to 60 Kbps
Encryption AES-128
Topologies One to Many, Many to One, Peer to Peer, Star, Practical Mesh"
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Actually other units in store were detecting my Hrm (even white) so there should be something eromg with my unit.
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Just checked https://www.thisisant.com/directory/
Z5C and Z5 Premium are actually listed now. But very strange that the (standard) Z5 is not listed.
Guys, everything you need to connect ANT+ device is here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.service.socket
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus
and basic app to check if it works (assuming you have ANT+ device connected) is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.hrmon_antplus
AFAIR the same situation was with Z3C. I installed two first apps and connected my old Garmin HRM. With Endomondo (free) is working like a charm. You need only to activate in Endomondo options.
tagor said:
Guys, everything you need to connect ANT+ device is here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.service.socket
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus
and basic app to check if it works (assuming you have ANT+ device connected) is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.hrmon_antplus
AFAIR the same situation was with Z3C. I installed two first apps and connected my old Garmin HRM. With Endomondo (free) is working as a charm. You need only to activate in Endomondo options.
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can confirm no issues in .32 firmware
Have Z3 now 18 months,happy with it especially battery life. Its still quick and snappy but I'm thinking of buying a Chinese Android phone for around €150(max €200) delivered if possible. So would have to be from an EU warehouse to avoid customs. Looking for a quick phone,that doesnt require a lot of work to get rid of bloatware etc. And will get updates. Decent camera,expandable storage,good processor. Somebody on another thread recommended the Redmi Note 3 Pro. Would that be the best bang for my buck and a good upgrade from my Z3?
Hi,
I want to buy a phone and I am little confused with the two phones. One Plus 3 and Moto Z Play
One Plus 3 - OS updates? Aren't great with updates?
One Plus 3 - Battery life? Not that great?
One Plus 3 - Warranty Issues in India?
One Plus 3 - All the rest good config. etc for the price.
Moto Z Play - OS updates? Stock OS so I should get it quickly.
Moto Z play - Good Battery life
Moto Z Play - No issues with Warranty etc.
Moto Z Play - SD 625 processor with 3GB RAM.
Question is what should I buy? if I get faster updates on One Plus 3 I will just go for it?
Can anyone help me with this little confused on what to buy?
Thanks!
raamkum said:
Hi,
I want to buy a phone and I am little confused with the two phones. One Plus 3 and Moto Z Play
One Plus 3 - OS updates? Aren't great with updates?
One Plus 3 - Battery life? Not that great?
One Plus 3 - Warranty Issues in India?
One Plus 3 - All the rest good config. etc for the price.
Moto Z Play - OS updates? Stock OS so I should get it quickly.
Moto Z play - Good Battery life
Moto Z Play - No issues with Warranty etc.
Moto Z Play - SD 625 processor with 3GB RAM.
Question is what should I buy? if I get faster updates on One Plus 3 I will just go for it?
Can anyone help me with this little confused on what to buy?
Thanks!
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I think you go for one plus 3. It have great features.
If you concerned about the one plus 3 above point then go for Moto z play.
Os updates -
If you stick to stock os updates and faster os updates then go for Moto z play.
If you want custom roms support then one plus devices have good support than Moto.
Battery Life -
There is no much difference in battery life in these two devices. One plus 3 support quick charge that can charge your android faster than Moto.
Warranty-
I don't know. It may have warranty issues in one plus one devices.
Motorola not having any issue in warranty.
If you want good configuration then one plus 3 is great choice.
Ashwinrg said:
I think you go for one plus 3. It have great features.
If you concerned about the one plus 3 above point then go for Moto z play.
Os updates -
If you stick to stock os updates and faster os updates then go for Moto z play.
If you want custom roms support then one plus devices have good support than Moto.
Battery Life -
There is no much difference in battery life in these two devices. One plus 3 support quick charge that can charge your android faster than Moto.
Warranty-
I don't know. It may have warranty issues in one plus one devices.
Motorola not having any issue in warranty.
If you want good configuration then one plus 3 is great choice.
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Lol are you kidding! Moto z play has the best battery around by a margin period. If OnePlus 3 is around 4 to 5 hours sot then
10 to 12 hours is z play.
It's basically your usage and priority. If battery usage is your priority and you are a mediocre user with no super heavy games then z play is better.
Else OnePlus 3 hands down if you are a heavy user and best specs to value ratio.
Update is tricky. Moto will surely ensure you get Android n and o. Decent updates. OnePlus has a bad reputation with updates. Look at 1+2 or 1+x. But it's improving with 1+3. But only future will tell you how it goes. 1+3 has already got the Nougat update while z play should this month.
Anyways both phones are very good you won't go wrong with either.
There's a thread for device suggestions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Thread closed.
Continuation of the 2014 thread.
OK, I'll chime in. Just short of paying $1K for the new Note 8, I'd say the Z Ultra still holds its own.
Yup , Z ultra is my dailly driver for almost every thing , amazing battery and running KK, Aosp MM , lollipop , marshmellow and Noughat almost every thing , I bet it will run Oreo as well , coz of its powerful hardware ... if by any mean we will get the binaries and some devs who are still working on building .for this amazing machine..
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yup , z ultra is my dailly driver for almost every thing , amazing battery and running kk, aosp mm , lollipop , marshmellow and noughat almost every thing , i bet it will run oreo as well , coz of its powerful hardware ... If by any mean we will get the binaries and some devs who are still working on building .for this amazing machine..
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a b s o l u t e l y !!!
I can ask you a tip ...
I had this terminal just came out, but then I sold it, now I bought it back, and as soon as I got installed a number of roms, but in all the roms I tried the battery convinces me. I changed the battery, but I think but I do not think the situation is combiata.
What rom you use?
Anyone still using Sony ultra z in Nvember 2020? I got myself a Huawei mate pro30 - like its speed , camera and the fact I can install as many applications that I like without worrying for its storage space and memory. Yet scrolling Facebook just on it just made me missed my Sony ultra z - I miss the big screen and the Xperia Chinese keyboard which offers t9 English keyboard and ability to write Chinese on it. I bought Huawei mate30¤ pro as it's half its original retail price and the fact of it has 5G option makes it an easy ( but regrettable decision)...
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Anyone still using Sony ultra z in Nvember 2020? I got myself a Huawei mate pro30 - like its speed , camera and the fact I can install as many applications that I like without worrying for its storage space and memory. Yet scrolling Facebook just on it just made me missed my Sony ultra z - I miss the big screen and the Xperia Chinese keyboard which offers t9 English keyboard and ability to write Chinese on it. I bought Huawei mate30¤ pro as it's half its original retail price and the fact of it has 5G option makes it an easy ( but regrettable decision)...
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Yeah, still using it, for the same purpose I purchased it back in 2014. With OruxMaps it gives a great Bicyle GPS. It is easy & Cheap to repair (Battery, Screen, all easy to get) and I even bought a second one as backup. Latest Android 5 updates were supplied from this forum until end of last year - what more can you expect? Further Software updated would be great, but it will even continue to work without...
So i've read that android 8 aka Oreo was coming to the Z1 pro almost half a year ago but there is no recent news about this, any of you guys know about this?
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So i've read that android 8 aka Oreo was coming to the Z1 pro almost half a year ago but there is no recent news about this, any of you guys know about this?
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Umidigi seem pretty bad for updates. What's the point in releasing such a relatively good spec mobile and then providing its user base no updates whatsoever. I already complained to Umidigi on a email, Youtube and on Twitter, effectively asking is this what's to be expected for the Umidigi Z2 Pro users who invest in their product and as to be expected I received zero response.
I probably should have bought a Xiaomi instead.
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