I mean, I do hope it’s just me...but I see something really weird in almost any 4K video recorded with Mate 20 Pro....or at least with the one where there’s a sort of rapid panning: it seems like there’s a “stripe” of video at the panning direction edge whenever there’s a rapid “panning” movement where the image is like deformed?!?!
I guess is something dealing with EIS or AI stabilisation, but I’m not sure. What I don’t understand is why no one talks about it. I mean, every review say the mate 20 Pro 4K video are finally stabilised but at what expense? I find those video to be terrible with the “deforming edge”....is it just me?!?!
Here you are an example of what I’m talking about
https://youtu.be/vKS1U56uj04
https://youtu.be/lGUiLgUv-CI (especially from minute 1.03 up to minute 3:00)
I do hope someone having the phone can eventually confirm what I saw.
Thanks in advance
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Give it some time... Its still on pre release software, i am sure they are already aware of this,
It happens the same to me, Huawei told me that they are working on it, so you don't have to be worried about that, it's just like AI Vídeo modes ( they just doesn't appear in this pre release version), I'm afraid that we have to wait a couple of weeks more... I have to learn how to be patient! LOL
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Give it some time... Its still on pre release software, i am sure they are already aware of this,
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It happens the same to me, Huawei told me that they are working on it, so you don't have to be worried about that, it's just like AI Vídeo modes ( they just doesn't appear in this pre release version), I'm afraid that we have to wait a couple of weeks more... I have to learn how to be patient! LOL
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Ok, then they are aware of this issue. I do hope they really fix it.
Thank you
I have seen the distorted effect on numerous video but this one doesn't seem to have it... perhaps fixed?
From 9:15: https://youtu.be/g6NeRu0ZIms
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I have seen the distorted effect on numerous video but this one doesn't seem to have it... perhaps fixed?
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Look again. There are still stammers. Pay attention to the cars and see how the traffic is not smooth at all.
If they do not fix it, then shame on huawei and its flagship device.
Thats why im waiting before gettinng this device
It is likely because of stabilization.... try without stabilization...
When stabilizing video the camera only takes a smaller crop from the sensor and uses the information from the edges and gyro sensor data to calculate your movement then it can use that edge informatrion to smoothen out your video.
link to explanation
Due to the physical sensor being 4:3 format and the video being recorded in 16:9 there is still enough edge to work with top and bottom.
Left and right though the sensor has to be cropped, if they chose to crop only little than the stabilization algorithm does not have enough edge information to smooth out the movements and this jitter effect becomes visible.
That of course is only my explananation, i could be wrong
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It is likely because of stabilization.... try without stabilization...
When stabilizing video the camera only takes a smaller crop from the sensor and uses the information from the edges and gyro sensor data to calculate your movement then it can use that edge informatrion to smoothen out your video.
link to explanation
Due to the physical sensor being 4:3 format and the video being recorded in 16:9 there is still enough edge to work with top and bottom.
Left and right though the sensor has to be cropped, if they chose to crop only little than the stabilization algorithm does not have enough edge information to smooth out the movements and this jitter effect becomes visible.
That of course is only my explananation, i could be wrong
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Why is that must be an problem? Why has the iPhone this problem not? So it could be without it.
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Why is that must be an problem? Why has the iPhone this problem not? So it could be without it.
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Because Huawei messed up, that's why they wanna fix it.
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Hello XDA,
I have a problem with my video recording on my Lumia 920 and I believe it is caused by the floating lens. While recording, if I tilt the phone up and down at a resonably low speed, I get a strange shaking effect and the device records a sound too. I will post a video recorded on the 920 to show you what I mean.
http://youtu.be/jlzzOBlAT6Q
Do you think I can fix this myself?? I don't really want to return the device.
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http://youtu.be/jlzzOBlAT6Q
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"this video is private"
And no, if you are having a hardware problem, it's going to need to be fixed by nokia.
The video is now public. Sorry for that.
Sounds to me like it is the lens settling in your camera after a quick shift in movement. The springs trying to steady the camera will cause that blurring effect. As to how you would fix that, I'm not sure. I havent noticed anything like that in my phone, but I have yet to try that test with my phone personally.
Disable continuous focus and you should be fine.
I've tested mine and it doesn't do this at all. I'm pretty sure you have a hardware fault so you'll need to get it replaced.
All right, at this point, I think the camera is really good after the updates. I am not an expert on pictures though so lets get a community review on it.
Please, take pictures with your Camera please and post them here. Get outside and inside pics, good light and especially low light pics.
Please include a description of the non-obvious environmental variables of the pictures so we have context of the results, especially for those who haven't bought one yet. I know we would all have loved to see this thread before we bought the phone so please contribute your efforts.
Rules for posting:
1. Try to take good pics. If your pics look nowhere near as good as the pics already posted, then ask for help before posting so you can represent the camera correctly.
2. I took my pics in manual mode. In Low Light, they came out way better than in Auto mode. Play around and see what works best for you.
3. Make sure your phone is updated and make sure the camera app is fully updated as well. We know pictures werent great pre-updates, but now that the updates have come out, I personally think they look great.
Lets fix the bad rep this camera has gotten as I think it was prematurely judged. Or maybe I just need to go play with other cameras, as what I see as really good is really nowhere near good enough. Lets figure out which is the truth
Here are two photos I took. One is with all my lights on and the other is with all lights out, at night with only my TV on. I was very impressed as I feel it debunks all the criticism of the Camera's low light performance. I took both pics in manual mode
Ignore those photos and see these. XDA limits resolution. These stored in my Google photos are full res
One observation: I am assuming the one on the right is with lights out. It appears that it has a much better white balance result than the other one. It will be interesting to see what others post.
As few posts as are showing up on this forum, it seems the phone is not getting out there very much.
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One observation: I am assuming the one on the right is with lights out. It appears that it has a much better white balance result than the other one. It will be interesting to see what others post.
As few posts as are showing up on this forum, it seems the phone is not getting out there very much.
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You are correct the one on the right is with the lights out. One possible reason for the hue difference is likely that my lights give off a yellow hue and my walls are also slightly yellow. Then my TV has a Full array LED backliggt which will give off pure white light. I mention this as both pics were taken with the same settings. Just a theory though, as I personally think the one on the right looks a little better and that is the only way I can explain it. Your guess is as good as mine though.
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You are correct the one on the right is with the lights out. One possible reason for the hue difference is likely that my lights give off a yellow hue and my walls are also slightly yellow. Then my TV has a Full array LED backliggt which will give off pure white light. I mention this as both pics were taken with the same settings. Just a theory though, as I personally think the one on the right looks a little better and that is the only way I can explain it. Your guess is as good as mine though.
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I am sure that the warmer light from the lights, and yellow on the wall, is a definite contributor. The only way to correct colors in these situations is to have a custom white balance where you can use something white to have it calibrate to. No phone does that, that I'm aware of.
Here are some photos I took. XDA restricts file size so here is my Google Photos Album
https://goo.gl/photos/pv4NR2iReRkRL8Pu9
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Here are some photos I took. XDA restricts file size so here is my Google Photos Album
https://goo.gl/photos/pv4NR2iReRkRL8Pu9
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That's the really good job.
Many thanks for this uploads.
Can someone give some more? I'm going to buy this phone next week do I do want know if camera is also perfect. I had Zenfone 2 it was awesome at it's time, now I can't wait to buy this but camera is important to me and I wish to real compare to s7 and g5.
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Hour did you get those night interior pictures?
Was phone docked at stative or column? Was it auto night mode or your manual settings? It's ready good.
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Hour did you get those night interior pictures?
Was phone docked at stative or column? Was it auto night mode or your manual settings? It's ready good.
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I held it in my hands and just held it still as it snapped the pic. It was in Manual Mode. Hold it still as when it detects low light, it extends the exposure time and then after the photo is taken, it will be a lot brighter than you anticipated. Alternatively, while in manual, you can hold the screen for a second the drag right and it will increase the exposure time. During the day it takes an instant photo and the exposure time is nonexistent, but to get great low light shots, it is necessary to increase the exposure time. The photos always come out better on my phone than the scene looked at night in real life. Let me know if that is at all confusing and I will try to explain better.
Ok I get it. Thanks. That convinced me to buy this device. Camera is ok enough to do it.
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Ok I get it. Thanks. That convinced me to buy this device. Camera is ok enough to do it.
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In my opinion, the camera is more than okay enough. There are so many camera modes, it is ridiculous. And the Camera stabilization is incredible when taking video is incredible. Just don't take low light photos in Auto Mode as it does nothing to correct it, but ironically in manual mode, the camera does automatically correct low light (unless you manually adjust the exposure time, then that setting will take pecedent).
I think the reviews that said low light photos were bad were either taken in auto mode or the updates fixed a whole lot before I got my phone. Either way, low light now is excellent. I have a feeling that they just didn't fully teat the camera as one review even stipulated that they didn't change any if the modes.
Does the camera support a 60fps recording? How its slow motion? Looks smooth or laggy?
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Does the camera support a 60fps recording? How its slow motion? Looks smooth or laggy?
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Full HD recording has 60fps. I don't think the 4K does as it doesn't say it. And I haven't used the slow no yet
@Blues-n-Blazin or someone any update about this slow motion or shots experience?
Can someone give some updates, I thing I gonna buy it tomorrow, but need some kite reference.
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@Blues-n-Blazin or someone any update about this slow motion or shots experience?
Can someone give some updates, I thing I gonna buy it tomorrow, but need some kite reference.
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Just took a slowmo of my TV while watching the walking dead, and it was pretty nice. Looks like what I hoped it would. As smooth as I would expect slow motion to be. OIS works really well as the picture was perfectly stabilized through the entire footage. I think OIS disables when I zoom in though because when I did, my phone was a little shaky. That is just a testament to how good it works when it is enabled though. I haven't tested it with real life slow motion yet but if it does really good recording motion of a TV show, the I imagine real life will be just as nice, if not better.
Just did another of me moving my hand and fingers really fast for 30 seconds and it was really smooth. I am impressed. It looks like a slow motion replay like you see in sports. I assure you, you will be very happy. I didn't even expect it to be that good.
I will try some hockey off the tv too
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I will try some hockey off the tv too
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Hockey looked really good too. It slowed the game down to a crawl and the motion was very smooth. I could not imagine it being any better
Slow motion is awesome thanks to 60hz camera recording, the rest is also fine including night mode
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Hi guys.
Look at this photo please. Have you ever noticed something like that? It is very disappointing.
I had to change resolution and extension of the file, but you can still see the problem.
It happens only on 40MP camera, especially with bright object in the foreground.
Maybe it's only a software bug. I'm on EMUI 9.0.0.122. and still waiting for update to find out.
Thanks.
I have P20pro and i have never encountered artifacts when shooting 40mp pictures.
Sample 40MB from my M20P , also on .122
http://sharetheexperience.co.uk/m20p/40mb_sample.jpg
Looks good to me although I use 10mp. Even better than my Pixel 2 and blows my Note 9 out the water.
Jonathan-H said:
Looks good to me although I use 10mp. Even better than my Pixel 2 and blows my Note 9 out the water.
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Thank you for the kind words, but I'm not talkig about that gearbox condition
Just open my photo at full size/resoluton and you will se a lot of colorful points.
It shouldn't be there for sure.
Interestingly, this effect is not always achieved.
I have not yet come up with what causes it - usually a white A4 sheet on a dark background.
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Thank you for the kind words, but I'm not talkig about that gearbox condition
Just open my photo at full size/resoluton and you will se a lot of colorful points.
It shouldn't be there for sure.
Interestingly, this effect is not always achieved.
I have not yet come up with what causes it - usually a white A4 sheet on a dark background.
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I saw the artefacts you were talking about.
I sometimes get something similar on my PC monitor (well actually like little green sparkles, looks like some sort of random interference from somewhere)
/Me wanders off to look for a sheet of white A4
actually it looks like an old CRT in close up
Hello,
I recently got a new Mate 10 Pro. I tested the camera and I think that the photos looks ok, but the video quality is not as good. The videos in 4K look ok, but in 1080p/30fps and 1080p/60fps the videos looks bad, noisy.
I updated the phone to Android 9 and EMUI 9 before I shoot the photos and the videos, so I don't know the quality before the update.
Another problem is that I cannot find the video stabilization ON/OFF setting. At one moment I found it, but I don't know if it was before or after the Android 9 update.
I also saw that sometimes the autofocus is not properly working when shooting videos.
My software version is 9.0.0.161.
1. Are there any problems regarding the update or my phone is broken ?
2. Does anyone also have those problems ?
Hi, I don't think you have a hardware problem. I have this phone since 16th november of 2018, with Oreo 8.0.0.157 C432-L29, i didn't have those problems. In Android Pie i think the app doesn't have the same performance like Oreo's. The AI of this app is INCAPABLE of making things right now, for me. Shooting photos is better, but videos in 1080p looks a bit weird , especially in low light condition. Maybe this is the problem. Let's hope in the next updates, they will fix it and make it better.
Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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1st: video has been very bad on Huawei phones for a long time. It has not gotten better, even the mate 20 pro is far behind apple and Samsung.
2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
3rd: the phone has improved it’s photo quality and camera app in general over the past year I have had the phone since Jan 2018. It got updates every 2 months with new features almost every time. They added handheld night mode, face unlock, 960fps slomow, improved aperture depth detection, improved AI (looks a lot less oversaturated now) it also got gpu turbo and much much more. In the span of a year i Must say huawei impressed me.
4th: it took me some time to get to know the camera. Now my shots are much better (I use raw from pro mode) so it’s mostly about the photographer.
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2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
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I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
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I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization it is software only. I have just checked and I don’t have the option in my phone either but I think it’s on automatically since there is a big crop. This is because they use the outer edges of the image sensor to make up for the movement. You can google how EIS in videos work. You can see much more when using 1080p60 so there is no EIS but when you switch to 1080p30 there is a huge crop.
Edit: I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
Hardware stabilization is optical stabilization but it does not do much (it is always on btw it is a way how the lense is built) except for removing shaking when taking photos it is especially useful in dark conditions where the shutter speed is reduced to take more light in. It will almost do nothing in videos. You can find out if a phone has optical image stabilization if you gently hit you phone close to the camera with one hand while holding it with your other there should be a little noise like there coins inside the phone.. That is because the lenses move around in order to counter camera movement from shaky hands.
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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Lol sorry. Well it can’t be hardware if all is well when recording 4K or taking photos. So I guess it just doesn’t live up to your standards. In general many YouTube reviews criticize that 1080p looks more like 720p upscaled. Maybe that’s what you mean also.
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I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
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Hi,Alfred!
May I know the Android version and camera software version on your Mate during that test?
I've had the phone for a couple of days now ant the battery life is stellar but the camera is such a disappointment. Compared with the S22 Ultra it lets in less light and the pictures are overall darker. Same goes for low light pictures, the S22 Ultra is consistently brighter in all scenarios. It reminds me of the difference between my iPhone 13Pro and my S22 Ultra last year the former always capturing more light. To be honest I was expecting the opposite to be true with all the reviewers clamoring about the S23 Ultra's better low life performance and camera overall. I'm really not impressed so far.
Anyone else still in possession of both phones? What's your experience been like? Any suggestions? Did I miss something in the setting? So many questions
Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
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Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
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Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
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I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
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For sure. I totally get that. The thing is all the reviewers said that the s23u captured more light and that has yet to materialize for me. They were using the same software. To your point, the software should get better but I feel as though this is a hardware thing. But I'm no expert.
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Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
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If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
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If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
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I don't have my phone yet but there is a setting somewhere that you can choose between 200 MP, 50 MP or 12 MP in settings.
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Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
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Try shooting raws, at least 3 f/stops more exposure and WB correction. Downside is the post processing effort/time required.
The issue may simply be the firmware instruction set. Samsung is notorious for dialing things in after the release. I'm still happily running N10+'s on Pie and Q. I demand a dual drive capable device. I'm not pleased at all by the newer Android versions from Gookill either.
The dead zone between pixels on such a small sensor with such a huge pixel count is concerning as is the individual pixel microlense quality. Even 20mp is pushing it. Canon full frame sensors are maxed out at about 26mp.
Regardless of the camera learning it's capabilities, limitations and shooting effectively within those boundaries is what grabs keepers.
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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Is it the camera or the display?
Check/compare images on a properly color calibrated monitor... yeah, it's a can of worms.
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I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have
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I'll try tomorrow
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iI'll t.
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I'll try tomorrow
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In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
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I'll try tomorrow! This app is so wonky for me. I'll try tomorrow and post the pics.
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In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
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I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
PhilMorin said:
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
Edit: @blackhawk was spot on. They were both from the S22u. I have such a hard time with the app. I re-uploaded the correct pics. Left S23u Right S22u.
Paul_Deemer said:
I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
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I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
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Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
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Poor example; different shooting heights skews the results. The AF lock on point is also different so the bottle's print is out of focus in the one shot. Light metering and colors look near identical in both.
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I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
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That might work for Photos but not very well for videos especially when you are zooming in 20x. Here's is an example where I have S22U on a tripod and zoom in on a waterfall from across the canyon and pan up and down. No way you gonna do it that smoothly holding it in your hands even braced. So for videos I love the tripod. It's the very lightest one they make and perfect for cell phones or light cameras. Change YouTube resolution to 1080p for best viewing.