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What is the big difference between the 16 and 8gb besides the ram ?
there really is no other differnce
(besides ram and storage)
yes. the internal sd goes from 8 to 16gb and then the working ram from a half a gig to a full gig. maybe the later gives it a tiny speed boost ? maybe...
There's a bit more to it than that. Fattire broke down some of the key differences when the 8GB launched.
Also, one should note that no version of B&N's OS before 1.4.2 will work on the 8GB and there are quite a few roms (I think all of the cm7 based ones) that will not work on the internal memory of the 8GB model without some modification.
Also, less RAM = less multitasking capability. Someone actually made a point the other day that we oddly enough differentiate between the two based on the internal memory size (8GB vs. 16GB) when in reality, the important difference is actually the RAM, as this actually has performance implications on the device.
karrb said:
What is the big difference between the 16 and 8gb besides the ram ?
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I found my way here while trying to make an informed decision. I could be totally wrong, but it looked to me like the 16GB has 2X the support from this amazingly talented pool of xdadevelopers. (SOLD! )
Oh, yeah. And the 8GB is cheaper, too.
424aca said:
there really is no other differnce
(besides ram and storage)
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If that's the case, then does the difference between the 8 and the Nook Color come down to the processor and the price?
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Nook Tablet is lighter, has better battery life, a microphone (though it doesn't have bluetooth and the nook color does, albeit short ranged) and as you mentioned the better processor, which is kind of important.
So I should I even root my nook tablet (8gb) yet, will it just give me the market?
It depends on what you want.
Just rooting will give you access to the google play store which has a ton more apps than the B&N app store. You could install a custom launcher (like go launcher or adw launcher) to give it a full user interface change as well. Or you could install a custom rom like cm7/cm9 for a complete OS change.
Personally I'm a bit worried about the phone only having 3GB of RAM. I am a power user and play games pretty often too. I constantly switch from Chrome, Line messenger, whatsapp, facebook, skype, clash of clans, and a few other games. I switch from literally all these apps pretty much every time I pickup my phone to use.
I had the S6 Edge before and the downtime all adds up because of the crappy memory management. Even my Xiao mi 3 with 2gb RAM handles multitasking literally twice as good, but its not good enough for what I do on my phone.
Does anyone out there have a similar habit to me with 3GB/4GB of RAM device that can comment? Would love to hear from the experts here that has similar usage as me!
Is 3GB enough? How much do you have spare after loading all your daily apps?
I don't worry.as Nexus 5X has only 2g ram.
Dont worry about the 3GB RAM it will be sufficient for your needs. And dont based it on SGS6 because RAM management on that phone is veerry aggressive and I actually sold my S6 for MXPE 2015 because of that issue.
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I'm not necessarily worried per se but I would have liked for it to have 4GB of RAM only for future proofing.
I'm buying this phone for my dad. Unlike me, he doesn't like to change his phone for at least 2- 3 years, he's been using his Lumia for 3-4 I believe and for someone like that, I think it is worth it to get something that can last a while.
Not worried at all. I'm hesitant to get my wife the 5x because of only having 2gb though.
Too many screen redraws on my xperia devices but far less on a nexus device with 2gb ram. Less bloatware on Nexus devices meaning more free ram.
Lol you guys realize 3gb of ram is a ton...its a freaking phone! Can you remember not so long ago computers had on average 1 to 2gb ram. Now we expect our cellphones to have 4gb... Pretty crazy!
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Nope 3gb is more then enough
It's plenty.
Nexus is Pure Android, So no worries at all
The oneplus two I had almost never went more than 2.4gb in usage.
3gb lpddr4 should be plenty.
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Lol you guys realize 3gb of ram is a ton...its a freaking phone! Can you remember not so long ago computers had on average 1 to 2gb ram. Now we expect our cellphones to have 4gb... Pretty crazy!
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that was well over ten years a go and technology moves fast
more typos!
More to the point in, 5 years:
N1 512MB LPDDR;
NS 512MB LPDDR;
GN 1GB LPDDR2;
N4 2GB LPDDR2;
N5 2GB LPDDR3;
N6 3GB LPDDR3;
N5X 2GB LPDDR3;
N6P 3GB LPDDR4.
500% increase in RAM and each new LPDDR generation doubles fetch size and transfer speed.
At first I was slightly concerned about the 6p only having 3GB. But after finding out it utilizes LPDDR4 RAM, I'm not too concerned anymore. The extra bandwidth of LPDDR4 will do wonders for the 2560 x 1440 display.
LPDDR4 Specifications: http://www.androidauthority.com/lpddr4-everything-need-know-599759/
I worry all the time.... Just 3gig.... I need like 128gig of ram.... F Google....
Can you recognize my sarcasm over here.... It's a nexus even my nexus5 can multitask better than any phone out there
people, I can play crysis 3 with 4gb on my pc at extreme.
3gb DDR4 is more than enough for a smartphone. look at the iphone (1gb)
i understand where you guys are coming from. I'm worried about 3GB because my xiao mi3 with 2GB has over 1GB available with no apps open. When I start using it, I have apps reloading left right and center because I have everything on the go inc 3 games. But the Xiao Mi3 defo handles it better than the S6 Edge.
LDDR4 doesn't mean it will keep apps open better than DDR3 right? Its just faster.
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i understand where you guys are coming from. I'm worried about 3GB because my xiao mi3 with 2GB has over 1GB available with no apps open. When I start using it, I have apps reloading left right and center because I have everything on the go inc 3 games. But the Xiao Mi3 defo handles it better than the S6 Edge.
LDDR4 doesn't mean it will keep apps open better than DDR3 right? Its just faster.
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Yeah ddr4 is only faster.
yeh thought so. Also the quad HD display is just gonna hog more memory too.
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yeh thought so. Also the quad HD display is just gonna hog more memory too.
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More RAM will be used up as video RAM for the QHD, yeah. To be honest, as bad as the Samsung phones are for memory, they're not unusable and work ok. When you think of all the crap the 6P won't have running in the background compared to the Sammys, I really think it'll work well.
Hello,
I'm asking if it is worth buying the 3gb ram version over the 2gb ram since it costs about 1000 EGP more for the 3gb ram and it comes without warranty.
The 2gb model costs 3400 EGP with 1 year warranty
The 3gb model costs 4300 EGP without warranty
Yes bro, go with 3 GB ram, 2 gb is not sufficient
biso46 said:
Hello,
I'm asking if it is worth buying the 3gb ram version over the 2gb ram since it costs about 1000 EGP more for the 3gb ram and it comes without warranty.
The 2gb model costs 3400 EGP with 1 year warranty
The 3gb model costs 4300 EGP without warranty
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Unequivocally yes.
You get twice the storage on top of 1 gb more ram. Easily worth the extra money. You can recover a hard bricked phone yourself (I have done it twice) but you need very steady hands and some knowledge of small electronics repair. So basically, be careful and always follow directions carefully so you don't hard brick your phone.
I have the 2gb, the ram is somehow enough but the internal storage isn't... You cannot move the apps to sd so if you install large apps go to the 3gb ram.
I have 2GB model and it is enough...it gives even better score in RAM then 3GB version...but I would like more storage but its enough for me, cuz I keep media and everything on microsd...and you are still left with about 9GB of apps you can install...
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I have the 2gb, the ram is somehow enough but the internal storage isn't... You cannot move the apps to sd so if you install large apps go to the 3gb ram.
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Denis:) said:
I have 2GB model and it is enough...it gives even better score in RAM then 3GB version...but I would like more storage but its enough for me, cuz I keep media and everything on microsd...and you are still left with about 9GB of apps you can install...
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How about gaming performance? Is it quite smooth as on the 3GB version or you face any lag? That what would matter in addition to the storage since I'll root my phone and could force move the apps with these App2SD applications.
biso46 said:
How about gaming performance? Is it quite smooth as on the 3GB version or you face any lag? That what would matter in addition to the storage since I'll root my phone and could force move the apps with these App2SD applications.
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Nope, it is same performance as on 3GB...
You can install apps on microsd, but performance in this apps will be reduced... So im not using that.
So the gaming performance? It's same.
But still, I'd prefer to buy 32 gb version. You know, More games = more storage.
I have the 3GB and easily use 2gb of ram.. so... theres that...
Absolutely...huge difference.
also price difference is very less
Take that 3gb, I regret to have 2gb of RAM as I know this phone consumes alot of RAM resources than my previous phone Zenfone 5.
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It depends on how you use your phone, like what apps you will install, whether you clear background apps frequently... If you have a phone with 2 GB RAM and 64-bit SoC, you can have a idea on how performance on 2 GB variant is.
Hello!
Do You think that the 3GB RAM version of Redmi Note 4 will be sufficient? I's about 1.5 GB left to the user after switching on the phone. In future there will be updates for MIUI or maybe OS to Android 8.
Shall the 3 GB be enough in your opinion or should I be worried and definitely go buy a 4 GB RAM version?
I do plan on getting LineageOS installed on it BTW.
@androidbadboy
Note that the 4GB RAM version has 64GB of memory as opposed to 32GB for the 3GB RAM. If you plan on downloading lots of apps/games, then you should go with the 4GB one. Otherwise 3GB RAM should be enough for your average daily use. Android handles memory quite well nowadays.
yohyah said:
@androidbadboy
Note that the 4GB RAM version has 64GB of memory as opposed to 32GB for the 3GB RAM. If you plan on downloading lots of apps/games, then you should go with the 4GB one. Otherwise 3GB RAM should be enough for your average daily use. Android handles memory quite well nowadays.
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Agree with you.
My one is 3GB version.
I've been using it for month. Every time I check the memory status are always show free 1GB~1.3GB...
Switching game to game are never lag. (Clash Royal, candy crush, clash of clans, mobile legend...)
Despite I don't feel any lag at all, I still not feel so satisfied the memory occupied more than 60%.
and this is still very worth to save that USD40.
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Hello!
Do You think that the 3GB RAM version of Redmi Note 4 will be sufficient? I's about 1.5 GB left to the user after switching on the phone. In future there will be updates for MIUI or maybe OS to Android 8.
Shall the 3 GB be enough in your opinion or should I be worried and definitely go buy a 4 GB RAM version?
I do plan on getting LineageOS installed on it BTW.
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If 4GB one fits ur budget then u should go for it. U will get a better ram management as well as a roomy internal storage. Tho 30-40 dollars is worth to paid on this gap.
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how about 2gb variant. Note that i will be flashing custom roms and i dont play games at all.. i just use chrome, spotify and some other apps.. will it hang or lag during multitasking?
poran123 said:
how about 2gb variant. Note that i will be flashing custom roms and i dont play games at all.. i just use chrome, spotify and some other apps.. will it hang or lag during multitasking?
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Wont lag but switching between app would almost always resulting in the app reloading, especially chrome. 3gb is the absolute minimum nowadays for better experience.
no,I think they are same
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3gb is the absolute minimum nowadays for better experience.
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I second that.
I have a 3GB RAM version of Xiaomi and I 'm worried as I monitor RAM usage while launching built in simple apps like camera and gallery as they are eating memory like ice-cream on a hot summer day. I'm not sure how it will respond to new versions of MIUI, Android, roms etc.
Having a phone below 3GB of RAM is a TORTURE! Don't let anyone fool ya that it's not. Maybe if you install a special low-ram custom made rom designed for simple tasks with cut out services or whatever it is that the dev make to actually being able to use the phone with Android 6, 7 or even 8 on board.
BTW there are very low priced phones on the market with 1,5 GB of RAM - that's a suicide! Do not approach these kind of devices!
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I second that.
I have a 3GB RAM version of Xiaomi and I 'm worried as I monitor RAM usage while launching built in simple apps like camera and gallery as they are eating memory like ice-cream on a hot summer day. I'm not sure how it will respond to new versions of MIUI, Android, roms etc.
Having a phone below 3GB of RAM is a TORTURE! Don't let anyone fool ya that it's not. Maybe if you install a special low-ram custom made rom designed for simple tasks with cut out services or whatever it is that the dev make to actually being able to use the phone with Android 6, 7 or even 8 on board.
BTW there are very low priced phones on the market with 1,5 GB of RAM - that's a suicide! Do not approach these kind of devices!
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So it’s not a good idea to buy 2gb ram variant.???
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So it’s not a good idea to buy 2gb ram variant.???
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It's bad idea. You would shake before any upgrade of MIUI, Android, rom etc cause it may lead to slow down your phone to a very irritating degree.
But first, tell me what's the overall price for the 2GB version and what's the overall price for the 3GB version and in both cases tell me the full model name.
Tell me also what will you do with that phone other than calling, sms texting.
febry_valdy said:
If 4GB one fits ur budget then u should go for it. U will get a better ram management as well as a roomy internal storage. Tho 30-40 dollars is worth to paid on this gap.
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Thanks for the advice but can You explain how the 4 GB of RAM vs. 3 GB of RAM makes a better ram management?
4gb just let you have more apps before its killed by android. If you're not multitasking in 10 apps, you wont feel the difference.
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4gb just let you have more apps before its killed by android. If you're not multitasking in 10 apps, you wont feel the difference.
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If I use 5 apps at the time, standard build in apps like camera, gallery, web-browser, video-player, spotify the 3GB version would satisfy me even If am doing it on a future version of MIUI and Android 8.1?
androidbadboy said:
If I use 5 apps at the time, standard build in apps like camera, gallery, web-browser, video-player, spotify the 3GB version would satisfy me even If am doing it on a future version of MIUI and Android 8.1?
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More than enough. You need 4gb if:
You install all the chat client: fb, wa, bbm, line, telegram, skype.... Then you double them with dual apps.
Or you want to split screen... Gaming while reading multiple tabs of websites while pip-ing video / streaming spotify.
Yeah, its insane....
And when you do above things. 4gb wont help you too... Your processor will lags because of too many process.
For me 4gb is a waste, but it offer +32gb storage which is more matter. You can save more picture, videos.
If you're not saving many data, its better to go 3/32... Remember that the +1gb ram and +32gb might use more power too.
Thanks for all the answers, I get the picture now.
I think there would be a newer better phone out there before I would make use of that 4 GB of RAM.
Would You agree?
There is a note 4 model which has 3Gb Ram and 64Gb storage I think it is Mediatek. Like this one advertised here
Are there any ROMs for it?
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Having a phone below 3GB of RAM is a TORTURE! Don't let anyone fool ya that it's not. Maybe if you install a special low-ram custom made rom designed for simple tasks with cut out services or whatever it is that the dev make to actually being able to use the phone with Android 6, 7 or even 8 on board.
BTW there are very low priced phones on the market with 1,5 GB of RAM - that's a suicide! Do not approach these kind of devices!
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I never had a problem with a 1.5GB RAM device :b. My S3 Neo performs blazing fast on Nougat and my Y5 too which is a gig of a device
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Tisenoiazei100 said:
I never had a problem with a 1.5GB RAM device :b. My S3 Neo performs blazing fast on Nougat and my Y5 too which is a gig of a device
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Seriously? I'd have to see it to believe it.
on stock rom there's no way these can provide good experiance while enjoying phone.
One thing you people don't see is that less ram usage doesn't mean a faster phone. 3gb might be enough for you but I'd recommend the 4gb one as it has 64gb of memory and you wouldn't find much of a lag for a few years atleadt.
IDK how you use your phone or neither care
My 3GB mido performs blazing fast on both MIUI and Pixel Experience. Games run great, Apps load fast, Web browsing is buttery smooth. I use my phone mostly for some gaming, YT videos and work.
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There is quite big price difference between 6gb and 8gb version (€280 vs 380€) so that is quite a lot and does not seem worth it but I have heard about some MIUI performance issues with only 6gb of ram. I don't play games but I multitask a lot. How is the performance?
I think you'll be fine with 6gb. I wouldn't pay €100 extra for 8gb, maybe €20 or 30.
I have the 6gb model and it's fine. The latest update gives you 2gb memory extension on top of the 6gb so it works out at 8gb overall.
Depends. If you use a lot of apps at the same time, difference between 6 and 8 GB is quite significant. I do and after they let us extend RAM to UFS, I even feel those 3 additional GBs giving me 11 in total. Never too much RAM if you multitask a lot.
Mr_Steve said:
There is quite big price difference between 6gb and 8gb version (€280 vs 380€) so that is quite a lot and does not seem worth it but I have heard about some MIUI performance issues with only 6gb of ram. I don't play games but I multitask a lot. How is the performance?
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The 6GB Ram 11 lite 5G's performance is actually good for a budget phone, there are no hanging issues also I didn't feel any heating problem and I'm using it for a month now.
Warren_Orange said:
I think you'll be fine with 6gb. I wouldn't pay €100 extra for 8gb, maybe €20 or 30.
I have the 6gb model and it's fine. The latest update gives you 2gb memory extension on top of the 6gb so it works out at 8gb overall.
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Sorry for my question but can you answer me what version of rom you are using?
I am currently using xiaomi.eu 21.11.24 and cannot find this option.
I would appreciate your help .
akihito95 said:
Sorry for my question but can you answer me what version of rom you are using?
I am currently using xiaomi.eu 21.11.24 and cannot find this option.
I would appreciate your help .
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12.5.5. additional settings > memory extension
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12.5.5. additional settings > memory extension
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I get it, all clear.
Everything indicates that this feature in xiaomi.eu simply does not exist for this phone.
At least in the nightly version, maybe in the stable version is available, currently I have no way to check this