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i need a replacement for my jaybird x2 but dont want to get the X3 now that bluetooth 5.0 is available. Or does anyone know of a good headset that will be release soon with bluetooth 5.0?
is it because your x2 doesn't work with the S8 ? because it doesn't work with mine either .
Favorito said:
is it because your x2 doesn't work with the S8 ? because it doesn't work with mine either .
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it works fine just the battery is getting old. and itll be nice to have more range with 5.0
I am also wondering if there are any Bluetooth 5.0 headphones anywhere yet. I can't find anything.
Also looking for BT 5.0. Still using the original Bluebuds x ! Battery only lasts me about 4 hours.
This is driving me nuts--there are some pretty legit reasons for wanting BT 5.0 headphones, and I don't really want to buy a replacement pair that DOESN'T have BT 5.0 because that'd be silly now that my phone supports it . . . blech. There has to be someone out there making them, right?
I searched pretty hard online this weekend and found NOTHING, not even articles/teasers of soon to be released 5.0 headsets.
I'm turning up similar amounts of nothing at all. One wonders why Samsung wouldn't be more interested in playing this up as a feature and thus driving stories about it. Maybe they're too focused on the AKG earbuds they're bundling with the phone, and the fact that the s8 has a headphone jack and the iPhone doesn't? That's my best guess . . .
BT 5.0 is pretty new. The S8 is pretty much the first phone to have it, and I believe it will take a few months until we see some better quality BT5.0 headphones on the market.
But no one's announced plans at all??? Finding the same nothing others are finding - and the silence is deafening.
FYI, X2 and X3 work just fine with the S8 and S8+.
I guess I will continue to wait. I actually really like my BT headphones, sound/battery wise, but they tend to cut out when my phone is in my pocket and I turn my head, which is just annoying.
The biggest issue with making devices that are BT 5.0 is that there is no backwards compatibility. So a set of headphones with 5.0 would not work on a device(Phone, tablet, computer,etc) that didn't come Bluetooth 5.0 capable. Sure they could add BT 4.2 to it, but that would require an additional bt radio. Increasing price and size
My Plantronics edge batteries are about shot. I'd love to buy another Plantronics edge like headset but I'll try to wait BT 5.0. Even if I weren't waiting for BT 5.0 I wouldn't buy another on the chance I'd buy a new headset that has been sitting around for 3 years.
Acoustichayes said:
The biggest issue with making devices that are BT 5.0 is that there is no backwards compatibility. So a set of headphones with 5.0 would not work on a device(Phone, tablet, computer,etc) that didn't come Bluetooth 5.0 capable. Sure they could add BT 4.2 to it, but that would require an additional bt radio. Increasing price and size
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Do you have source on this? I havent seen any articles that says it's not backward compatible. If this is true then it could be a while until any manufactures will release new headsets with 5.0 if the only device currently that can use it is the S8.
I'm not sure why you'd think they weren't backwards compatible. I've gone through every previous generation of BT and to the best of my recollection if you use a newer gen with older gen the only issue is you don't get all the benefits of the new gen but they certainly communicated with each other.
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Do you have source on this? I havent seen any articles that says it's not backward compatible. If this is true then it could be a while until any manufactures will release new headsets with 5.0 if the only device currently that can use it is the S8.
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Look at the Bluetooth website. Or any other website talking about the technical specs. After I did research I tried looking up any devices that are 5.0, besides just headphones and sadly couldn't find any. 5.0 will be phenomenal, just gonna be a bit before it's implemented widespread sadly
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Look at the Bluetooth website. Or any other website talking about the technical specs. After I did research I tried looking up any devices that are 5.0, besides just headphones and sadly couldn't find any. 5.0 will be phenomenal, just gonna be a bit before it's implemented widespread sadly
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Will Bluetooth 5.0 devices be
backward compatible with
current Bluetooth devices in
the marketplace?
Devices implementing only the
low energy feature of Bluetooth
5 will be backward compatible
with Bluetooth 4.2, 4.1 and 4.0
devices that also implement the
low energy feature.
Devices implementing the Basic
Rate/Enhanced Data Rate (BR/
EDR) Core Configuration will
be backward compatible with
all adopted Bluetooth Core
Specification versions beginning
with 1.1 that also implement
Bluetooth BR/EDR.
From the Bluetooth FAQ.
I can connect three S5 to my Bluetooth speaker that isn't 5 just fine. As well as transfer files fine.
russ18uk said:
Will Bluetooth 5.0 devices be
backward compatible with
current Bluetooth devices in
the marketplace?
Devices implementing only the
low energy feature of Bluetooth
5 will be backward compatible
with Bluetooth 4.2, 4.1 and 4.0
devices that also implement the
low energy feature.
Devices implementing the Basic
Rate/Enhanced Data Rate (BR/
EDR) Core Configuration will
be backward compatible with
all adopted Bluetooth Core
Specification versions beginning
with 1.1 that also implement
Bluetooth BR/EDR.
From the Bluetooth FAQ.
I can connect three S5 to my Bluetooth speaker that isn't 5 just fine. As well as transfer files fine.
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I think you're mixing up what I'm saying. The s5 doesn't have bt5. But receiving devices that have bt5 are not backwards compatible with transmitting devices that aren't bt5. Majority of devices that transmit (phones, tablets, etc) will have bt5 and down installed in them, such as the S8, because doing that is simple. As a receiver has to implement all the things that come with higher BT qualifications and standards. Broadcasting BT is much more simple and convenient than having to receive everything connected to that signal.
I'm just relaying information from the bt5 specs though. I have not tested any of this in real world applications
That was a typo, I meant S8. Swype keeps using my old dictionary.
Here is the link I'm referring to as the FAQ:
https://www.bluetooth.com/~/media/files/specification/bluetooth-5-faq.ashx?la=en
ALP-L29 8.0.0.129 (C185) (Problem presisted throughout the updates)
Hi everyone
Since the very first time I used my bluetooth earbud(These are good earbuds that I've been using for a good amount of time to know that they aren't the problem) with my Mate 10, I could hear an easily recognizable crackling noise on "loud" songs e.g the ones with drums, even on low volume.
I tested different recievers; Bass boosted headphones/earbuds, "Hear what the artist wants you to hear A.K.A Studio" headphones/earbuds, speakers and even car recievers, They ALL have the same noise.
I tested in every environment with and without other BT devices active and with different music files and music player apps and nope, the noise seems to be originating in the phone,I even went back to Huawei's representative retailer where I bought the phone and checked their "sample" Mate 10 and I could hear it there too.
Now the headphone jack quality works fine and really is more than enough for a daily driver. I fiddled with the BT audio settings in developer options and they seem like they are automatically set according to the reciever, but even then it shouldn't set the bit depth to 16 bps (Or should it?).
My guess is that there is some faulty (presumably software) gain booster that's causing the BT DAC to "cut" the spectrum at frequencies above 6-8 Khz as those are first to get damaged in such cases AND that the bass is pretty good
If you have access to a BT audio device (preferably headphones because you gotta pay attention to speakers sounds especially low quality or bass boosted ones) could you please check if you experience the same problem? I already emailed Huawei maybe if it's a widespread problem they can give a solution
TL;DR Mate 10 BT audio extremely noisy,Jack audio fine, Tested in every environment with different music files and music players and BT recievers (Headphones and speakers) and with another Mate 10 device, The problem seems to be coming from the phone, Any suggestions? Can you please confirm and ask Huawei to fix it?
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ALP-L29 8.0.0.129 (C185) (Problem presisted throughout the updates)
Hi everyone
Since the very first time I used my bluetooth headphones (These are high quality headphones that I've been using for a good amount of time to know that they aren't the problem) with my Mate 10, I could hear an easily recognizable crackling noise on "loud" songs e.g the ones with drums, even on low volume.
I tested different recievers; Bass boosted headphones, "Hear what the artist wants you to hear A.K.A Studio" headphones, speakers and even car recievers, They ALL have the same noise.
I tested in every environment with and without other BT devices active and with different music files and music player apps and nope, the noise seems to be originating in the phone,I even went back to Huawei's representative retailer where I bought the phone and checked their "sample" Mate 10 and I could hear it there too.
Now the headphone jack quality works fine and really is more than enough for a daily driver. I fiddled with the BT audio settings in developer options and they seem like they are automatically set according to the reciever, but even then it shouldn't set the bit depth to 16 bps (Or should it?).
My guess is that there is some faulty (presumably software) gain booster that's causing the BT DAC to "cut" the spectrum at frequencies above 6-8 Khz as those are first to get damaged in such cases AND that the bass is pretty good
If you have access to a BT audio device (preferably headphones because you gotta pay attention to speakers sounds especially low quality or bass boosted ones) could you please check if you experience the same problem? I already emailed Huawei maybe if it's a widespread problem they can give a solution
TL;DR Mate 10 BT audio extremely noisy,Jack audio fine, Tested in every environment with different music files and music players and BT recievers (Headphones and speakers) and with another Mate 10 device, The problem seems to be coming from the phone, Any suggestions? Can you please confirm and ask Huawei to fix it?
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I have no problem with bluetooth headset on firmware 129-C432.
Which headset do you use?
Hi I tested two different Bluetooth headphones. One cheap headset from Amazon and Sony SBH-52. No crackling noise with both of them. Also I used the M10P with my cars stereo yesterday. No crackling, too.
I'm on 129(C432).
sonydesouza said:
I have no problem with bluetooth headset on firmware 129-C432.
Which headset do you use?
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Thanks for the response
Well as I said I tested 3 or 4 different earbuds from a cheap Chinese brand (AWEI) to a NuForce
What's yours?
I just hope it's not a hardware problem
RasaKh said:
Thanks for the response
Well as I said I tested 3 or 4 different earbuds from a cheap Chinese brand (AWEI) to a NuForce
What's yours?
I just hope it's not a hardware problem
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I have Bluetooth Jabra headset.
Works fine.
Same problems here ALP29 C636 with 131 build (with 128 was everything fine) Tried every damn setting in equalizer and couldnt make it better. I think fix is coming with 133 build. I am using Jaybird x3 and bt in car. It seems like is on some songs bitrate like from 2001.
There is a very long thread on a German board:
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...0-pro-android-8-bluetooth-problem.853624.html
Basically, the bluetooth issues come from the software and since release of the Mate 10 Pro, Huawei has done nothing to fix them.
What music player are you using? I have a Mate 10 ALP-29 on 131 and have no problems with Bluetooth sound on any number of speakers, cars, headphones, etc. I use PowerAmp beta and tend to leave the equalizer off.
Omg I just came here to post the same thing.
So I'd a Beats X for a day or so, and sent it back, cause, weird clipping and cracking with BT audio.
Got a X3 again, and same problem, but I know this isn't a problem with the X3, so I commented the X3 to another device and I got flawlessly audio.
Hopefully Huawei does something to address this.
tr1cky1 said:
There is a very long thread on a German board:
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...0-pro-android-8-bluetooth-problem.853624.html
Basically, the bluetooth issues come from the software and since release of the Mate 10 Pro, Huawei has done nothing to fix them.
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https://consumer.huawei.com/en/contact-us/
Could you please send them a complaint? Maybe if we push it a bit they'll fix it
Luinwethion said:
Omg I just came here to post the same thing.
So I'd a Beats X for a day or so, and sent it back, cause, weird clipping and cracking with BT audio.
Got a X3 again, and same problem, but I know this isn't a problem with the X3, so I commented the X3 to another device and I got flawlessly audio.
Hopefully Huawei does something to address this.
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Could you please send them a complaint? Maybe if we push it a bit they'll fix it
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/contact-us/
djstalca said:
Same problems here ALP29 C636 with 131 build (with 128 was everything fine) Tried every damn setting in equalizer and couldnt make it better. I think fix is coming with 133 build. I am using Jaybird x3 and bt in car. It seems like is on some songs bitrate like from 2001.
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Could you please send them a complaint? Maybe if we push it a bit they'll fix it
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/contact-us/
RasaKh said:
Could you please send them a complaint? Maybe if we push it a bit they'll fix it
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/contact-us/
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They don't care.
After they didn't do anything for months, I spoke with them on live chat daily.
Always with the result that they would forward it to Huawei, but nothing happens.
At this point I am considering to get the German consumer protection agency involved.
Huawei doesn't care at all, they just happily release new devices.
I thought maybe with the USA launch they would fix the problems because now there's a whole new customerbase that can complain, but apparently even now nothing happens.
djstalca said:
Same problems here ALP29 C636 with 131 build (with 128 was everything fine) Tried every damn setting in equalizer and couldnt make it better. I think fix is coming with 133 build. I am using Jaybird x3 and bt in car. It seems like is on some songs bitrate like from 2001.
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Why do you think it'll be fixed in 133?
So, I contacted Huawei NL about it... Via the live chat.
Sadly I guess that this is what we have to put up to with big companies like that.
The same story:
Guy asks if I have tried resetting the phone already.
I say yes, and state that this seams a major software bug.
To what his "intelligent" answer was:
We are expecting a new update to role out and fix your problem. Bla bla bla bla
Of course to the question of what's the update number, he couldn't answer that.
So in other words, he was just stalling.
Since Huawei NL isn't responsive on social media, I've contacted Huawei UK / DE (with my broken German) and the official EMUI Twitter account.
I've also sent a mail to [email protected] and [email protected]
Although little hopes here...
If they don't fix it in a timely manner, I'll be seriously looking for other options, hopefully Nokia get their camera game together, it was the main reason I didn't go with the Nokia 8.
It's shameful that they take the headphone jack out on the Pro variant and don't even bother to check if BT audio is working.
And if Huawei won't do anything about it, there won't be much hope, the phone is far too exotic for any major tech publication to make noise about it...
I actually got a answer from Huawei UK!
Dear, Thank you for contacting UK Huawei Customer Care Support. We are aware about the current situation regarding the Bluetooth headphones and the distorted noise that can be heard when connecting to our Mate 10 Pro devices. We are actively looking into a situation for this matter and escalating every case we capably can to our IT Department. Thank you for bringing us to our attention and providing the IMEI numbers of your device. We will escalate your report at once. Hopefully, with an upcoming update, the Bluetooth headphones distorted noise situation we are currently facing for our Mate 10 Pro devices will be fixed in an instant. We deeply appreciate it as we are seeking constant feedback from our customers and in order to improve we need your opinion. Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you seek further assistance. We hope the above information proves to be of use. Should you need further assistance, feel free to write to us. Best regards, Tanna Huawei Customer Care Support
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I actually got a answer from Huawei UK!
Dear, Thank you for contacting UK Huawei Customer Care Support. We are aware about the current situation regarding the Bluetooth headphones and the distorted noise that can be heard when connecting to our Mate 10 Pro devices. We are actively looking into a situation for this matter and escalating every case we capably can to our IT Department. Thank you for bringing us to our attention and providing the IMEI numbers of your device. We will escalate your report at once. Hopefully, with an upcoming update, the Bluetooth headphones distorted noise situation we are currently facing for our Mate 10 Pro devices will be fixed in an instant. We deeply appreciate it as we are seeking constant feedback from our customers and in order to improve we need your opinion. Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you seek further assistance. We hope the above information proves to be of use. Should you need further assistance, feel free to write to us. Best regards, Tanna Huawei Customer Care Support
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Looks like a pre-drafted text.
So a quick update,
I just installed the B131 for C432 via FF.
In my (not scientific at all) test with my Jaybird X3, the audio sounds less broken although still a bit awkward when compared with a 3T and the same headphone.
Nou I just realised, that no matter what I do, I cannot choose AAC as BT codec.
I choose AAC, and as soon as I turn BT on It changes back to SBC.
Switching with BT on won't work, doesn't matter if headphones are connected or not.
On the OnePlus, it chooses AAC by default with my X3, and I can change codecs on the fly while listening to music.
I have the exact same problem and it goes away only if i play with sample rate and bits per sample. So frustrating.
A bit of a update.
Last week I was on LOS, and BT audio worked flawlessly, had no troubles at all and AAC codec worked.
Good news: it's neither a hardware or kernel issue
Bad news: remember when Huawei said that they were aware of the problem? Well, email I received today doesn't give much hope of them being aware of this.
From [email protected]
Thank you for contacting Huawei Customer Care.
In order to better assist you with the issue you are experiencing please answer the below:
1) Please tell us the detail brand, model of the Bluetooth headphone? such as Honor Xsport AM61 bluetooth headset
2) What's the build number of cellphone?(Settings->System->About phone->Build number)
3) What's your issue scenario? such as music sound noise or phone call noise, etc.
4) How often does this issue happen?
Looking forward to your reply,
Huawei Customer Care Team
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I'm curious to know if other EMUI 8 devices have the same problem, like the Honor V10.
I've got the 8" version and I noticed that when I connect a bluetooth headphone or speaker the wifi slow down to less than 1 mbps while playing music or video. Can anyone test if it's a common problem or is it just my unit?
Thanks.
PD: sorry for my english if I made any mistakes.
ZunsheV said:
I've got the 8" version and I noticed that when I connect a bluetooth headphone or speaker the wifi slow down to less than 1 mbps while playing music or video. Can anyone test if it's a common problem or is it just my unit?
Thanks.
PD: sorry for my english if I made any mistakes.
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I don't own the MediaPad M5, but i have a MediaPad M3, and it does indeed have the same problem. I was wondering about getting an M5, but if it have the same problem, i am a little skeptical.
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I don't own the MediaPad M5, but i have a MediaPad M3, and it does indeed have the same problem. I was wondering about getting an M5, but if it have the same problem, i am a little skeptical.
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Well as WiFi and Bluetooth use the same frequencies there is always an interference between them especially if you have two streams in parallel (downloading the music file and transmitting to the head phones). You could try to use 5GHz for WiFi in that case Bluetooth should not be affected.
AndDiSa said:
Well as WiFi and Bluetooth use the same frequencies there is always an interference between them especially if you have two streams in parallel (downloading the music file and transmitting to the head phones). You could try to use 5GHz for WiFi in that case Bluetooth should not be affected.
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This isn't a minor interference, it makes wifi almost useless. Less than 1 mbps of download speed, latency increases and sometimes it doesn't even work at all. I did this speed test right next to the router while playing a song:
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With bluetooth on it is impossible to stream a video without constantly buffering. I did the same test on my phone and my laptop and both are ok. My router doesn't support 5 GHz, but I read that it doesn't fix the problem for people with the same issue on other devices.
Edit: And don't forget that this tablet doesn't have a 3.5 mm headphone jack (a really stupid decision if you ask me), so it push you to go wireless and this is what you get.........
I have the m5 10" version and I have the same. About 0.5MB at a 5Ghz network while listening to some music. Get around 5-10MB with Bluetooth disabled.
taldershof said:
I have the m5 10" version and I have the same. About 0.5MB at a 5Ghz network while listening to some music. Get around 5-10MB with Bluetooth disabled.
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It's not just my unit then, must be a bad design of the antennas or whatever I guess, great. Because I don't think it could be fixed with a software update, right?
This is unacceptable to me, I'm going to return it. Now the problem is what tablet buy next. What other choices are there? IPad, I don't like Apple; Samsung Tab S2 is kinda old; S3 too expensive...... damn it.
AndDiSa said:
Well as WiFi and Bluetooth use the same frequencies there is always an interference between them especially if you have two streams in parallel (downloading the music file and transmitting to the head phones). You could try to use 5GHz for WiFi in that case Bluetooth should not be affected.
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I have the M3 and just tried it. With Bluetooth on I get less than 1 mbps down while streaming, just under 5 mbps with no streaming. With Bluetooth off I get 155 down on my 5ghz wifi. Damn. I usually use my phone for music.
The mediapad M3 has this issue also, it just crawls when using wifi and Bluetooth.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
This is not device specific. This is a bluetooth WiFi general problem. The 2.4 GHz frequency
radaan said:
This is not device specific. This is a bluetooth WiFi general problem. The 2.4 GHz frequency
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Have you read all the replies? You couldn't be more wrong:
taldershof said:
I have the m5 10" version and I have the same. About 0.5MB at a 5Ghz network while listening to some music. Get around 5-10MB with Bluetooth disabled.
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purple lady said:
I have the M3 and just tried it. With Bluetooth on I get less than 1 mbps down while streaming, just under 5 mbps with no streaming. With Bluetooth off I get 155 down on my 5ghz wifi. Damn. I usually use my phone for music.
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ZunsheV said:
[...] I did the same test on my phone and my laptop and both are ok. [...]
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I appreciate that you're trying to help, but come on, don't write the first thing that comes to your mind without checking the facts....
ZunsheV said:
Have you read all the replies? You couldn't be more wrong:
I appreciate that you're trying to help, but come on, don't write the first thing that comes to your mind without checking the facts....
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Just do one Google search. I have 3 devices. Google nexus 10. Oneplus 3 and the mediapad m5. All have the same problem when using bluetooth devices in various routers in various network providers in various houses. This is a problem that thousands of People have asked all over Internet, in Android in ios in Windows Phone. Im not saying nothing that Comes out of my mind.google it before you call me out.
radaan said:
Just do one Google search. I have 3 devices. Google nexus 10. Oneplus 3 and the mediapad m5. All have the same problem when using bluetooth devices in various routers in various network providers in various houses. This is a problem that thousands of People have asked all over Internet, in Android in ios in Windows Phone. Im not saying nothing that Comes out of my mind.google it before you call me out.
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Ok, I'll give you some numbers.
Huawei M5 playing a song through bluetooth:
M5 bluetooth off (I know, my internet connection sucks):
Nexus 5x playing a song through bluetooth:
Nexus 5x bluetooth off:
Can you see the difference??
I know that if a lot of devices are connected at the same frequencies there is going to be interferences and the speed is going to drop (notice the minor hit in the Nexus). But the case with the M5 is not normal, must be a bad design. It makes wifi almost useless. And there are 2 replies that have test it in a 5 GHz wifi and the problem persist.
ZunsheV said:
Ok, I'll give you some numbers.
Huawei M5 playing a song through bluetooth:
M5 bluetooth off (I know, my internet connection sucks):
Nexus 5x playing a song through bluetooth:
Nexus 5x bluetooth off:
Can you see the difference??
I know that if a lot of devices are connected at the same frequencies there is going to be interferences and the speed is going to drop (notice the minor hit in the Nexus). But the case with the M5 is not normal, must be a bad design. It makes wifi almost useless. And there are 2 replies that have test it in a 5 GHz wifi and the problem persist.
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Man. I gave up bluetooth headphones a long time ago. Just search the internets for this problem. You have enough to a week. The general answer for this question is change router channel or get a 5ghz router.
radaan said:
Man. I gave up bluetooth headphones a long time ago. Just search the internets for this problem. You have enough to a week. The general answer for this question is change router channel or get a 5ghz router.
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Again?? Did you not read that a 5 GHz router doesn't fix it? This thing is broken.
Give up bluetooth headphones on a device that doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, great. And no, that stupid usb to jack adaptor it's not a proper solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
The tablet is going back to the store next week.
ZunsheV said:
Again?? Did you not read that a 5 GHz router doesn't fix it? This thing is broken.
Give up bluetooth headphones on a device that doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, great. And no, that stupid usb to jack adaptor it's not a proper solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
The tablet is going back to the store next week.
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Again. Google it. Its not a problem related to this device. Its all over the internet. Every OS and lots of devices. Maybe some devices dont suffer as much from the problem but this is definitely not a problem related exclusively to this device.
https://www.google.pt/search?q=blue...ndroid-huawei&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
ZunsheV said:
Again?? Did you not read that a 5 GHz router doesn't fix it? This thing is broken.
Give up bluetooth headphones on a device that doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, great. And no, that stupid usb to jack adaptor it's not a proper solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
The tablet is going back to the store next week.
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Oneplus 3 Just Now. With and without bluetooth device connected.
radaan said:
Oneplus 3 Just Now. With and without bluetooth device connected.
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Oneplus 5 just now. With Bluetooth device connected 124 down 12 up. With Bluetooth device connected and streaming 134 down 12 up.
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purple lady said:
Oneplus 5 just now. With Bluetooth device connected 124 down 12 up. With Bluetooth device connected and streaming 134 down 12 up.
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I just realized that I didn't test with no Bluetooth.
No Bluetooth - 160 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected - 170 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected and streaming - 168 down 12 up.
It looks like Bluetooth improves download speed. ?
radaan said:
Again. Google it. Its not a problem related to this device. Its all over the internet. Every OS and lots of devices. Maybe some devices dont suffer as much from the problem but this is definitely not a problem related exclusively to this device.
https://www.google.pt/search?q=blue...ndroid-huawei&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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Unbelievable..... Last time I reply to this.
I have tested my family's phones, a Xiaomi Redmi 3s and a Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro, and both under the same conditions give me around 9 mb/s:
So let's compare numbers:
Nexus 5x - 12 mb/s
Both Xiaomi (budget phones) - around 9 mb/s
Huawei M5 - around 0.6 mb/s (tested multiple times, it never gets more than 0.8)
The M5 is more than 10 times slower. Do you get it now? Yes, none of them get the maximum speed when bluetooth is on, but only one becomes extremely slow.
Ok, those are the hard numbers, but what about real life usage? Well, the M5 is so slow that browsing the web is a pain in the ass, web pages with lots of images takes forever to load, and it is impossible to watch a hd youtube video because it's constantly buffering. None of this happens on the other devices. Do you see the problem now??
radaan said:
Oneplus 3 Just Now. With and without bluetooth device connected.
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Well, I'm sorry for you, but your phone has a problem too. Maybe you should contact One Plus....
purple lady said:
No Bluetooth - 160 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected - 170 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected and streaming - 168 down 12 up.
It looks like Bluetooth improves download speed.
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Thanks. A demonstration that it can be done right.
this is really sad to see. there are so few tablets to choose from, and even less if you want hd screens and latest gen hardware. this one looks great on paper, but reading in here is a complete disappointment.
it does not take a rocket scientist to notice the speed problem, and anyone that says "well dont use bluetooth!" if they cant make them play nice (which they do fine on other hardware, at least well enough to use both at the same time without noticing an issue) they should not have even put bluetooth on the device.
ZunsheV said:
Unbelievable..... Last time I reply to this.
I have tested my family's phones, a Xiaomi Redmi 3s and a Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro, and both under the same conditions give me around 9 mb/s:
So let's compare numbers:
Nexus 5x - 12 mb/s
Both Xiaomi (budget phones) - around 9 mb/s
Huawei M5 - around 0.6 mb/s (tested multiple times, it never gets more than 0.8)
The M5 is more than 10 times slower. Do you get it now? Yes, none of them get the maximum speed when bluetooth is on, but only one becomes extremely slow.
Ok, those are the hard numbers, but what about real life usage? Well, the M5 is so slow that browsing the web is a pain in the ass, web pages with lots of images takes forever to load, and it is impossible to watch a hd youtube video because it's constantly buffering. None of this happens on the other devices. Do you see the problem now??
Well, I'm sorry for you, but your phone has a problem too. Maybe you should contact One Plus....
Thanks. A demonstration that it can be done right.
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I hope ppl staying saying ALL android has this problem, the problem with my M3 is wifi is nearly unusable when blutooth is on. And pls stop misleading huawei tablet users 5ghz will be better. IT DOESNT HELP. I have owned many android ( samsung note3, note5, xiaomi, even entry lenovo tablet n nvr had one with wifi problem with blutooth on. I am using m3 and even 5ghz is below 1mbps for download with blutooth on. If u have sim version u should check from time to time.. It is slow extremely slow compared to other device using the same sim. I have given up. By the way my problem is only for download, upload tests are ok with wifi n sim.
Anyone else?
Also any questions I can awnser once I receive it?
Got the china version rom, waiting for developers/enthusiast to post a guide on how to convert to goobal rom.
can you do cpu throttling test for at least 5 minutes with this app ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=skynet.cputhrottlingtest
just curious about that cooling chamber, wheter it gives performance advantage over normla cooling smartphone
Me too
I also have Black shark 2 with me 12 + 256 GB Rom version. I saw a reply there questioning how to change China rom to global. It's very easy. First you will have to contact black shark eu team and have the Rom itself. Then simple unlock the bootloader by Fastboot commands - Yes it doesn't need miflashunlock and that ridiculous waiting time. Then first format the system then flash. Like this I also converted my China version to global and it works great in neat English. I cannot post the links to global ROM as I am a newbie here and I cannot post links to outside. You can contact black shark and get it from them. Really like this phone. I have a beast in my pocket. If this comment helped you. Please consider hitting the like button. So I could do more with my XDA.
Thankyou
What's the build number of the global version?
I have mine already. I'm a big fan of the hardware, and the software has been mostly solid so far.
I ordered mine from the UK store on Friday (one of the first 100, so got the free pad), I paid for priority delivery and have heard nothing yet. Support takes 48 hours + to respond to each email. Bad experience so far for me
Does it work on t-mobile us though?
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Does it work on t-mobile us though?
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T-Mobile bands: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988#frequencies
Black Shark 2 bands: https://global.blackshark.com/pages/specs-blackshark2
Network frequency bands supported
FDD LTE (Frequency band B1,B3,B4,B5,B7,B8,B20) International edition：FDD LTE (Frequency band B1, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B20, B28)
TDD LTE (Frequency band B34, B38, B39, B40, B41)
TD -SCDMA (Frequency band B34, B39)
WCDMA (Frequency band B1, B2, B5, B8)
GSM (frequency band B2，B3，B5，B8)
CDMA/EVDO (frequency band BC0)
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Hi, i have the ROG phone i am not sure how many of you had it, have it, or played with it. Can someone tell me if the difference between the speakers between the two devices is big. I am sure the ROG is way better but I want to know if the difference is marginal.
Also are there any software configurations to make the speakers sound better.
In general I would love a full detailed review of the speakers. Because I haven't found one yet. Thx
Guys im considering to buy global version of the phone , can i ask you:
1) the phone has widevine L1 or L3 ? (can use drm info app on playstore to check it)
2) on gsmarena it's written that has type c 2.0, but it's stated everywhere that can output the video trough type c hdmi cable , what do you know about that ? you tried ?
3) you tried to install the gcam of Mi9? Phone has camera2api already enabled like mi9 ?
thanks a lot
afifpratama said:
can you do cpu throttling test for at least 5 minutes with this app ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=skynet.cputhrottlingtest
just curious about that cooling chamber, wheter it gives performance advantage over normla cooling smartphone
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Not a lot of throttling. Also didn't feel hot in my hand
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Guys im considering to buy global version of the phone , can i ask you:
1) the phone has widevine L1 or L3 ? (can use drm info app on playstore to check it)
2) on gsmarena it's written that has type c 2.0, but it's stated everywhere that can output the video trough type c hdmi cable , what do you know about that ? you tried ?
3) you tried to install the gcam of Mi9? Phone has camera2api already enabled like mi9 ?
thanks a lot
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1) see attached
2)? I don't know
3) yes camera2api enabled
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1) see attached
2)? I don't know
3) yes camera2api enabled
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thanks a lot,
let me know if you/someone else will try the gcam on it as well, sensor should be the same of mi9 so maybe the same version that works there works also for the black shark 2.
regarding hdmi output is killer feature to me , i wrote to blackshark support , if they answer i will let you know
in the meantime i saw this on the europe shop: https://eu.blackshark.com/products/black-shark-type-c-to-hdmi-cable
Mi 9 gcam working
i ordered mine first 100 as well shipped today receiving tomorrow global version. i have ordered china version which is still on the way just three days before global version was released. gonna return chinese unless anyone interested? it should come next week but Im not bother even if Im sure chinese version is much more stable
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Hi, i have the ROG phone i am not sure how many of you had it, have it, or played with it. Can someone tell me if the difference between the speakers between the two devices is big. I am sure the ROG is way better but I want to know if the difference is marginal.
Also are there any software configurations to make the speakers sound better.
In general I would love a full detailed review of the speakers. Because I haven't found one yet. Thx
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I'm using the Asus ROG phone and the speakers on the black shark 2 are quite a bit more quiet, feel a bit muffled and have less clarity, volume and bass than the ROG phone. It's certainly a downgrade.
Also the black shark 2 has an equalizer but it's only available in shark mode --> only in games where I'm certain nobody needs an equalizer (at least I don't) Furthermore the speaker grill holes on the black shark immediately got clogged with dust which isn't a problem with the ROG phone.
I personally found many reasons why I'll stick to my ROG phone and am returning it.
MI1990 said:
2) on gsmarena it's written that has type c 2.0, but it's stated everywhere that can output the video trough type c hdmi cable , what do you know about that ? you tried ?
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According to the USB info, it's actually USB 3.1 (used my computer to check it). It seems to operate at USB 2.0 speeds when transferring files, but yes, it does output video and audio in real-time over HDMI. I have tried it myself, to include playing games with it, and there is nearly no delay. I found playing fast-paced games to be perfectly fine over HDMI to the TV.
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I'm using the Asus ROG phone and the speakers on the black shark 2 are quite a bit more quiet, feel a bit muffled and have less clarity, volume and bass than the ROG phone. It's certainly a downgrade.
Also the black shark 2 has an equalizer but it's only available in shark mode --> only in games where I'm certain nobody needs an equalizer (at least I don't) Furthermore the speaker grill holes on the black shark immediately got clogged with dust which isn't a problem with the ROG phone.
I personally found many reasons why I'll stick to my ROG phone and am returning it.
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Thanks a lot for the reply, my thoughts exactly. The problem currently there isn't a good alternative to the ROG phone that doesn't have a notch, even top bottom bezels, real dual speakers not an earpiece and 1 speaker. In a nutshell a ROG phone but with better specs and camera. There are few on the list but with many shortcomings, 1 example would be the Pixel 3 but it only has 4GB of ram which is a No No...
I guess I will have to wait until a better alternative is available.
Thanks again, and good luck to all of you with your new phones. :good:
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According to the USB info, it's actually USB 3.1 (used my computer to check it). It seems to operate at USB 2.0 speeds when transferring files, but yes, it does output video and audio in real-time over HDMI. I have tried it myself, to include playing games with it, and there is nearly no delay. I found playing fast-paced games to be perfectly fine over HDMI to the TV.
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wow thanks a lot for the clarification, considering the great emulation power of snap 855 , this phone is a portable "retro" console with hdmi cable (even ps2 works), my idea is to use portable projector with it to use in holidays/hotels etc.
thanks again.
now if gcam provide acceptable/good photos in low lights , is a perfect phone.
I was about to buy the ASUS ROG Strix Go 2.4hz because I was tired of testing and looking for low latency available BT Audio Devices. Good thing that I checked Zen Talk first.
I found out that the equalizer app for the said device is not available on phones and that they are not yet planning to have one yet. See the attached link of the thread at Zen Talk. https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/43508#Comment_43508
I could have looked the otherway with having a 3.5mm line for hi-res audio but I am not ok without the app.. talk about versatility of the device..
oberio28 said:
I was about to buy the ASUS ROG Strix Go 2.4hz because I was tired of testing and looking for low latency available BT Audio Devices. Good thing that I checked Zen Talk first.
I found out that the equalizer app for the said device is not available on phones and that they are not yet planning to have one yet. See the attached link of the thread at Zen Talk. https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/43508#Comment_43508
I could have looked the otherway with having a 3.5mm line for hi-res audio but I am not ok without the app.. talk about versatility of the device..
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It's designed for PC and what does a lack of an app have to do with the phone's versatility?
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It's designed for PC and what does a lack of an app have to do with the phone's versatility?
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I was referring to the strix go 2.4z.. Asus should have developed an integrated system for both of them.. It will be great to have compatible devices.. The current audiowizard on rog II does not have an equalizer.. As to the strix, they are marketing it as a versatile device. If they'd upgrade the audiowizard to have equalizer settings when it is connected to Rog II, that would be definitely great..
I buy one for my rog2 already. U can set EQ save in headset and plug to ur phone. Thats not big deal. I love wireless.
winson8585 said:
I buy one for my rog2 already. U can set EQ save in headset and plug to ur phone. Thats not big deal. I love wireless.
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It doesn't work that way bro, have you read the contents of the link on zen talk?
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It doesn't work that way bro, have you read the contents of the link on zen talk?
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Bro. I own the headset. I tried. Bro. Set EQ or set disable or enable AI-noisecancelling in Computer and press save in Computer. Setting saved in headset. And then plug to phone. Not phone app support is bad i know.
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It doesn't work that way bro, have you read the contents of the link on zen talk?
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When was the last update bro? I am waiting for the xiaomi line free bluetooth headphones that I ordered, it has aptx adaptive codec.. will try to make review about it... The latency is upto 80ms..
Now back to the ROG Strix Go, is the audiowizard compatible? Setting it's soundstage to wide is great advantage in shooting games... I had 90% accuracy in pinpointing the location of the enemies... I am currently using the fiil t1x TWS, the latency is the reason of that 10%, however the sounds are great.. It was immersive in playing online games, watching movies, and listening to songs..
Try testing the ROG Strix Go with the barber shop test, it's available at youtube.. There's a portion of that audio soundstage test that would make you freak out due to realistic sound effects... Please do reply hear after you have done that.. It will be a great help to all of us..
Will share hear also my experience with the xiaomi device
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Bro. I own the headset. I tried. Bro. Set EQ or set disable or enable AI-noisecancelling in Computer and press save in Computer. Setting saved in headset. And then plug to phone. Not phone app support is bad i know.
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I am using it for a month now. The only hiccup is tweaking eq via pc Armoury crate. I have mailed Asus to add it on Mobile Armoury Crate as well. It sounds great. Not regretting my decision at all.