Hello,
I am running a gTab with TNT Lite 4.4 and Launcher Pro. I like the setup very much (thanks to all the help found here), but am having problems trying to find an alarm clock app I can set up the way I like.
Ideally, I want an alarm that will open Pandora at a specified time. Barring that, I'd be happy with an app that started the alarm from sleep mode. I don't like leaving the display on all night, even if it's in the "dim" or "night mode". However, it seems that the minute I put the gTab to sleep, the clock stops ticking and the alarm doesn't go off until you wake up the device (the wake updates the clock to the actual time).
Am I nuts, or is there some kind of bug? Are there alarms that will wake up the tablet from sleep? So far I've tried "Alarm Clock Plus" and "AppAlarm Pro" without success.
Am I nuts, or is there some kind of bug? Are there alarms that will wake up the tablet from sleep? So far I've tried "Alarm Clock Plus" and "AppAlarm Pro" without success.
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This is a bug without doubt - what is the point of an alarm that
you have to turn on
YOu might try some of those keepalive programs in the market, but
my experience is that, like most android apps (and android itself
for that matter), they don't really work perfectly.
Here's what I've come up with so far. It seems to be working, although with some caveats.
I installed "Load Monitor" and enabled what they call "Wake Lock" which, according to the FAQ, prevents the tablet from going into a deep sleep. It seems to allow the clock to keep accurate time while screen is off. It also might help people's WiFi issues. I don't know the effect on battery life, but plugging it in while it's on the nightstand isn't a problem.
I've found that Pandora needs to be closed, not paused. Sometimes it'll work when paused, but not always.
I would be happy to hear anyone else suggestions as I'm certainly disappointed in how this is working.
EDIT: Also, you need to have the volume turned up loud enough manually. If you let the app set the volume, it's never loud enough.
App alarm pro is what I use on my phone. It can restart the app if you were using the night before. I use it to wake to Howard on the Sirius XM app and the developer is friendly and responsive. I haven't tried it on the gtab yet as my night stand isn't that big!
I saw a review of the lovely Nokia N9, and I noticed that whenever it is put in sleep mode, it does not shut off the screen entirely - instead, it shows a clock that moves around the screen to prevent burn-in. I rather like this idea, and it apparently draws very little juice from the AMOLED screen (which is what my Captivate has).
I spent some time looking for an Android app that accomplishes something like this, but I didn't find anything like it. If there is such an app, could someone point me towards it? If not, is this even possible?
Alright, since this thread doesn't seem to be generating much interest, allow me to bump it with some ideas that might help spark your imagination.
- Replaces sleep mode completely, and might even replace lockscreens
- Displays notification alerts
- Can be toggled on/off by, say, holding down the volume rocker for a few seconds
- Uses the proximity sensor to disable itself when facing down or when placed in one's pocket
- Can be configured to only display under certain conditions (e.g. at night time when plugged in, so as to function as a bedside clock)
- Can cook bacon and eggs
Something like this probably doesn't exist, but would anyone else be interested in something like this if it doesn't use too much battery? If so, I might put up a bounty for whomever brings this to fruition. Would a developer be able to tell me if this is possible? I realize it would probably require root access, but that's fine with me.
So I got tasker up and running and have set up a small scene for when I plug my headphones in. It pops up a small screen asking what I'm doing, and I can either click do nothing (does just that), play music (sets volume levels and starts music), or car mode, which sets volume levels/wifi/blutooth/gps sensors and starts my ecu communication app (torque).
The only problem is, like any good computer science student, I know to unload something when done with it, and I unload the scene. This has the wonderfull effect reverting everything that little menu did back to it's previous state. I've come up with a few possible solutions, but have some gripes with each of them (see below). My question is though, is there any way to make those system changes static, so that when I unload the menu, it doesn't revert it's changes?
Solution 1 - Do not unload the menu, just hide it and have the profile that activates when I unplug my headphones unload it.
Problem - This leaves it in memory. Not the largest chunk of wasted space ever, but still less than desirable. Looks better to me than solution 2 though.
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Solution 2 - Have the button set a variable which when active starts another profile to do all those things
Problem - That just creates 1 (or more) extra profiles that I assume tasker is constantly monitoring the status of. That's wasted cpu cycles right there.
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Solution 3 - Somehow make the changes persistent, so that they do not revert when the scene is unloaded.
Problem - I'm not sure if it's possible to do this. Help would be appreciated, thank you!
As many of you may know, for newer version of TS (at least for 4th List, May version devices), it's NOT possible to flick your wrist to show watch face since the Accelerator is DISABLED whenever screen is OFF!!!
What an oversight! A smart watch needs you to push a button to see time? What if when you are driving or have both hand full and cannot spare even a finger!?
(My Pebble, on the contrast, works great here!)
I tried to force the screen always on with watch face, it's great, except it kills my battery in around 6 hrs (airplane mode!) Not acceptable!
Thus, Here comes "Tasface". With this, you could achieve:
1. Let TS shows you time WHENEVER you LOOK at the watch! (well, actually when the watch is face up) or when you flick your wrist (You can modify this!)
2. Reduce using your button (if you have an Shortcut supported launcher like Smart Launcher 2)
DISCLAIMER: I will not be responsible if Tasface broke/brick your TS in anyway! Since Tasface is only a set of Tasker profiles/Tasks you can read everything before decide go or not! Tasface DO mess around with system files!
Pre-requests:
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1. Your TS must be ROOTED!
2. You need to know Tasker basics! (It's not THAT difficult to use Tasker...)
3. Tasker (Obviously)
4. Watchface by Kurt Huwig (I didn't test other watchface app. May not work with stock lock watchface) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.huwig.watchfaces
5. Secure Settings (Required) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.intangibleobject.securesettings.plugin
6. Smart Launcher 2 (Optional, any Launchers supports Shortcut will work. With this you can activate Watch face without using button!) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ginlemon.flowerfree
Set-up
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1. Have Tasker (required), Watchface (required), Secure Setting (don't forget to install system helper) and Smart Launcher 2 (Optional) installed. DO NOT IMPORT "Tasface" yet!
2. Disable your stock lock watchface: Go to Setting/Personal & Account/Security/Screen lock/None (<-- This IS IMPORTANT)
3. Launch Watchface by Kurt Huwig, than double tap on any watchface to enter setup
a. check "Keep screen on"
b. Select desired watchface from "Lockscreen face"
c. Recommended to disable all other options
4. Check if the Watchface work or not by turn off than turn on your TS by press the upper physical button. You should see the Watchface you selected shows up when screen on. Swipe to return to your launcher and launch Tasker.
5. Unrar and import Tasface into Tasker
6. Close Tasker
7. Turn off --> Turn on your TS with the upper button
8. Profit!
Notes
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1. When watchface is displayed:
a. Touch screen is DISABLED to avoid accidental touch.
b. Screen will be OFF after 8 seconds (you can setup your prefer time)
c. Touch screen lock is achieved by putting a transparent Tasker Scene element on top of the Watchface. A small "X" on bottom right screen is used to reactivate the touch screen. You can also push the lower right button (back) to reactive your touch screen.
2. To show watchface (after automatic screen off as Step 1)
a. Just face the watchface up. The watchface should appear for another 8 seconds
b. There maybe a 1~2 second delay. This is due to Tasker not detecting the Watchface up event. I cannot do anything about this....
c. You could change the watchface up to anything else, like "Sensor shake/Backware-Forward"
3. If you have "Smart Launcher 2" or any other launcher supports Shortcut, you can set a icon to task "Lock". With this TS will activate watchface WITHOUT touch physical button. (I heard horrible stories about broken button so want to avoid use them as much as possible!) It's normal the screen will off for 2 second than back on with watchface for 8 seconds!
4. You must wait for automatic screen off or use the "Lock" shortcut to turn off the screen! Tasface will NOT work if you turn off TS by pressing the upper right physical button. This DISABLE the accelerator as mentioned above. To reactive Tasface, just turn on TS by pressing the upper right physical button to show the watchface than wait for automatic screen off.
I wrote this primarily for myself so a there are a lot of bugs. You are free to modify it and make it better. Just let me know if you have any questions and need help or improvement here!
Thanks button is just a click away if I helped you!
Update the attached file to resolve some bugs and improve responseness
Technical stuff -- What is done here?
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It's a bit technical here .... No need to read if you don't care how it works!
Since TS turns off the accelerator whenever screen off, so it's not possible to activate the screen once it's off by external conditions. (You can still set a timer to wake the screen, but it's meaningless)
Thus we need to disable the power hungry backlight while keep the screen on!
I found out that it's possible to control the backlight by doing
Code:
echo 0 > /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness
Thus, I set up a Task profile which fires whenever Watchface is activated and TS is face up, to activate the backlight then turn off the backlight again after 8 seconds, but KEEP the TS screen wake! (Only backlight is turned off to save battery!)
Code:
echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness
You can change "1" to anything from 1~255. I just found 1 bright enough for me
Since screen/system is always wake, to avoid accidental touch, a transparent Tasker Scene on top of the screen is add to disable the touch screen. A small "X" is on the bottom right to disable this transparent scene if anything goes wrong. (And it does, Tasker is laggy sometimes and too slow to remove this scene automatically!)
I also lower down the CPU cycle to the lowest possible to further saving battery. CPU returns to normal frequency when leaving watch face (into launcher, etc...)
That's all! Folks!
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Shake
I was able to use application Shake from ADL Dev (com.adl.appshaker) to switch screen on with shake/twist of wrist. You just have to enable "activate when screen off" option - and it is little battery hungry.
Of course I have version 20140513.
I also strongly suspect, that you can force sensors to work when face is off, by switching into "Sports mode" (Run Settings->SMART MODE->Sports Mode)
Piw said:
I was able to use application Shake from ADL Dev (com.adl.appshaker) to switch screen on with shake/twist of wrist. You just have to enable "activate when screen off" option - and it is little battery hungry.
Of course I have version 20140513.
I also strongly suspect, that you can force sensors to work when face is off, by switching into "Sports mode" (Run Settings->SMART MODE->Sports Mode)
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Thanks for the advice.... I just think since I already have Tasker on my TS, I want to find a way to not to use additional SW which always runs in background to monitor things... Since its battery hungry, maybe Shake also use the same trick as me......
As for Smart mode settings, I tried bdefore but none of them work for flick wrist to wake up... Maybe I missed something?
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might give this a shot since shake was waking up watch at wrong times and was destroying battery life, and i already have tasker on the watch and running so hopefully that will avoid the battery loss that shake had.
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As for Smart mode settings, I tried bdefore but none of them work for flick wrist to wake up... Maybe I missed something?
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I was just guessing, because it suppose to leave GPS and accelerometer working with screen off, to enable sport trackers and pedometers.
If it works? - I haven't tested yet...
Piw said:
I was just guessing, because it suppose to leave GPS and accelerometer working with screen off, to enable sport trackers and pedometers.
If it works? - I haven't tested yet...
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Wow! It seems you are right! The watch DOES allow sensor to work on Sport mode after screen off, but the response from Tasker become very sluggish when screen-off!
I made a simple profile to detect shake action (if shake than beep), and when screen on, the watch beep in less than one second after shake began, but when screen-off (sport mode), It took Takers 5~6 seconds of continuous shaking to detect the shake event. Not very practical for a watch solution...
With my Backlight solution, although sometimes still hiccup happens, but my feeling is about 90% of time the watchface wakeup correctly...
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lssong99 said:
Wow! It seems you are right! The watch DOES allow sensor to work on Sport mode after screen off, but the response from Tasker become very sluggish when screen-off!
I made a simple profile to detect shake action (if shake than beep), and when screen on, the watch beep in less than one second after shake began, but when screen-off (sport mode), It took Takers 5~6 seconds of continuous shaking to detect the shake event. Not very practical for a watch solution...
With my Backlight solution, although sometimes still hiccup happens, but my feeling is about 90% of time the watchface wakeup correctly...
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i can not import to tasker tasker do not see it
pashka79 said:
i can not import to tasker tasker do not see it
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Do you mean the Tasker cannot see the prj file?
For how to import project, you could check http://tasker.dinglisch.net/userguide/en/faqs/faq-how.html#q
and you need to put the unrared file (.xml) in /sdcard/tasker/projects for Tasker to see it...
How much does this cost in battery? If I don't use my watch I can get about 4 days out of it.... I know Shake stops the TS going into deep sleep, won't this do the same and annihilate battery??
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How much does this cost in battery? If I don't use my watch I can get about 4 days out of it.... I know Shake stops the TS going into deep sleep, won't this do the same and annihilate battery??
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Don't know for tasker but I'm using shake app from market and I even I thought it'll drain my battery very fast - it didn't...
It's almost like I don't have it...
My battery can't hold on more then 24hours but I really use my watch and it's constantly connected to wifi and BT.
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funky0308 said:
Don't know for tasker but I'm using shake app from market and I even I thought it'll drain my battery very fast - it didn't...
It's almost like I don't have it...
My battery can't hold on more then 24hours but I really use my watch and it's constantly connected to wifi and BT.
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Ah that's prolly why you don't notice it running down... what do you use your watch for? Tbh i haven't used it for more than a watch lol/...
death_entry said:
Ah that's prolly why you don't notice it running down... what do you use your watch for? Tbh i haven't used it for more than a watch lol/...
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Well as I have Z1, which is quite big, I'm using TS mainly to receive notifications (using swapplink).
I'm receiving many emails (I'm using Z1 as my business phone) so it's great that I can see on my TS subject of email and decide what will I do.
I have sim card in TS and I use it all the time, when I'm alone in a car (and that's 6 hours per day )
I found TS quite practical for companion
BTW...from today, I'm using this app to help me save my battery power on TS and Z1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53078670
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Do you mean the Tasker cannot see the prj file?
For how to import project, you could check http://tasker.dinglisch.net/userguide/en/faqs/faq-how.html#q
and you need to put the unrared file (.xml) in /sdcard/tasker/projects for Tasker to see it...
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I tried this and Tasker can't see the xml on my TS
Here's a workaround for those having issues seeing the xml file in Tasker
Using a file manager, navigate to the location of the xml file
"Open with.." and choose Tasker
You will then see a toast notificaiton saying "...can be opened in Tasker" (or something like that)
Open Tasker -> Preferences -> UI -> Untick "Beginner Mode"
Back to main Tasker screen
In the HOME icon (bottom left) -> Long press, and choose "Import", then look for the XML file, wherever you put it
Boom
Note: Make sure you have the correct app from the Play Store, and not from the Ostore (same app, different names)
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How much does this cost in battery? If I don't use my watch I can get about 4 days out of it.... I know Shake stops the TS going into deep sleep, won't this do the same and annihilate battery??
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I am afraid that this will have an impact your battery. Basically to make TS responsive (light up as soon as you raise your hand), the screen/CPU is kept wake. Only LED backlight is disabled.
Although in my implement I put the CPU is slowest frequency and sleep Governor, but battery is around one day usage without radio on....
We need kernel tweak of this to achieve good battery life... Tasker is only... Tasker...
jeremy.chan said:
Here's a workaround for those having issues seeing the xml file in Tasker
Using a file manager, navigate to the location of the xml file
"Open with.." and choose Tasker
You will then see a toast notificaiton saying "...can be opened in Tasker" (or something like that)
Open Tasker -> Preferences -> UI -> Untick "Beginner Mode"
Back to main Tasker screen
In the HOME icon (bottom left) -> Long press, and choose "Import", then look for the XML file, wherever you put it
Boom
Note: Make sure you have the correct app from the Play Store, and not from the Ostore (same app, different names)
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Thanks I see it now.
put the unzip file at that location and still Tasker cannot see it?
Hi do read the solution I provided
Tapa-ed from the Sony Z Ultra
Hi,
I have a Amazfit watch Paceficator with WOS2, the GPS is always On ?
If yes, how to disable it (becauce save my battery) ?
(I do not use my watch to play sports)
Thanks
It's always ON, but only activated when recording an outdoor activity, so no need to worry about this. To save battery:
- make sure Autoupload and WiFi are off (probably they are off if you have never connected to WiFi)
- Use Auto-brightness or set it to zero when outside
- Turn off "raise to wake" and delete all alarms
- Make sure Continuous HR in HR widget and PPG capture in Huami Lab (Settings) are off (they are off by default)
- If you don't need notifications and/or you are away from phone, turn on Airplane mode.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/amazfit/ultimatre-guide-battery-drain-issues-t3791829
Ok Thanks ?