Title says it all, made the mistake of upgrading to Oreo and now stuck with relentless battery drain issues. Tried everything short of reflashing so far and failed. Nearly everything is disabled even after full wipe and reset (hard) and its still pretty bad in terms of battery life. So I signed up here looking for ways to salvage the hardware, perhaps by downgrading back to Nougat if I still can or installing something better and different altogether. I've read folks having luck with the cell standby drain by installing a nougat/oreo mash but couldn't find specific details on how to do this. Also this doesn't seem to fix the android system drain issue but its at least a start. I have basic experience using Kies and Odin, helped a couple relatives with boot looping tabs in the past. Please advise on the best path forward to make use of my new phone.
Have you tried installing 7.0?
What version of Oreo did you install? I myself installed a TMO Ver G930TUVU4CRI2 but running on ATT network. I rooted and debloated and I am blown away how smooth this runs with fantastic battery life.
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Title says it all, made the mistake of upgrading to Oreo and now stuck with relentless battery drain issues. Tried everything short of reflashing so far and failed. Nearly everything is disabled even after full wipe and reset (hard) and its still pretty bad in terms of battery life. So I signed up here looking for ways to salvage the hardware, perhaps by downgrading back to Nougat if I still can or installing something better and different altogether. I've read folks having luck with the cell standby drain by installing a nougat/oreo mash but couldn't find specific details on how to do this. Also this doesn't seem to fix the android system drain issue but its at least a start. I have basic experience using Kies and Odin, helped a couple relatives with boot looping tabs in the past. Please advise on the best path forward to make use of my new phone.
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I feel your pain. I was in the same situation, spending days to find a solution to these battery drain while stuck on this buggy version. And I tried everything...basic battery saving related stuff, disabling pretty much everything on the phone, monitoring everything, even changing the battery.
For now, the only thing that fix the problem for me was using a 3rd party app to force the phone to connect to none LTE network. I don't know where the bug lies: android, samsung or att side? or maybe it is because I'm out of US on another carrier who is using other freq but it is a shame. I don't think there will ever be a fix for that unfortunatly...
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hello,
my atrix runs under official stock rom 2.3.4, but phone idles battery usage is very high, and drains battery at most. i dont know the reason and coulnt solve this problem, any idea?
why this official stock roms phone idle drains the battery?any solution ? or should i wait the update for orange uk , maybe they relase 2.3.5 which doesnt have this problem or should it back to gurantee for changing a new one or take my money back.
thx for your solutions and suggestions
did you try hard reset?
Flash a clean image through CWM?
hmm you could go back and request another phone but most probably its that you have all sort of accounts signed in and set them to update all the time over mobile data or even wifi. might check on that, or maybe you installed an app that keeps waking the phone/accessing data. factory wipe wouldnt be that bad of an idea.
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did you try hard reset?
Flash a clean image through CWM?
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i did hard reset, but i dont know how i flash a clean image through cvm? may you please introduce how i can that. thxt
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i already did factory wipe but didnt help
still no suggestions?
You must ask questions in the Q&A forum. If I see you post in two forums one more time, I'm going to unleash some major pain.
Your question is not more important than other questions from other members. Please follow the rules.
Has your phone always done this? If so, and it's still under warranty, back up your apps and data and replace the phone. Or consider buying a replacement battery (generally between $10 and $20 --- at least here in the US) and try it out. If you observe the same behavior, you at least have a spare battery without much expense.
The only other thing I can think of is that, if you are comfortable with accessing your phone's file system (your phone would need to be rooted), download QuickSSHd and log into your phone as root from your computer using TeraTerm or other terminal emulator. Then put your phone into idle and invoke UNIX commands from the remote terminal and periodically check for processes running in background. This of course is more for the experienced user.
Hope this helps.
On my Atrix running stock AT&T 2.3.4, Phone idle is almost always the highest use. Higher than display, cell standby, etc. The actual drain with the screen off while it is doing nothing (like most of the time) is so low, I don't really think about it.
If you are reading the battery usage stats and worrying that your phone is draining on that alone, charge it to full before you go to bed, turn off the radios, unplug it for the night. Come back in the morning and check battery level. My guess is that it will have lost almost no power.
That's what I am finding anyway. I never 100% trust Android's battery usage scales.
Flash a different radio.
Radios
I used to be a on a stock KG2 carrier specific ROM until i realized the battery was unbearable and thus flashed to the stock KI3 ROM
"GT-I9100_XEU_I9100XXKI3_I9100XXKI3_I9100XEUKD1" specifically with the "CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KI3-v4.1-CWM4" kernel; things were great including battery life, performance (HSPA performance was a tad worse than the stock KG2 but nothing major), however, I would randomly get these restarts every now and then -which, knowing Android and the fact that it wasn't stock and all, were understandable- but recently I tried these new batteries (Anker 1900mAh) for the GS2 and well as soon as I tried them (both), the phone went into a boot loop (not just rebooting without booting up but it would load everything, including homescreen and media scanning etc and then restart - continuously).
Thankfully I had made a nandroid backup of my phone right before trying then new batteries and well even after restoring that or reflashing the KI3 ROM/kernel etc it still won't fix the issue.
Is there any solution besides wiping and factory reset? Took me months to set up my phone and I really can't afford to take a hit.. again.. (had issues with custom ROMs before and had to wipe it all) and no.. I don't even have a Titanium backup (up-to-date at least - perhaps a way I could still make that with this reboot issue? ..could make things easier).
Check out the various random reboot threads.
Might not be anything at all to do with your software.
Could be hardware like battery terminal connections etc.
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I've heard about phones doing these kind of things when used with bad third party batteries that could be whats happening. I would only stick a samsung battery into the precious galaxy s2 for fear of it combusting.
When I got my SGS3, I could have it on for about 2 days (with minimal use and bluetooth and gps off and such), but ever since I updated to 4.1.2 (from ICS to JB), it looks like the battery drains a lot faster. So I got Titanium Backup and removed most of Samsung's' bloatware, disabled Google now and finally got BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the source. I found some minor things and disabled them too... I've optimized all settings across the board, yet I still can't get much longer than one day.
Now I get that one day is nice, and most people charge every day, but when you're used to having 2 days (or at least 1.5 on normal use), 1 day is just.. less
So, I am kind of hoping that someone with more knowledge than me (basically everyone here ) would have a look at my BBS dump file, because I'm kind of at a loss.
It would be much appreciated!
Try turning off "Use wifi for location" in Location settings.
Arfman said:
Try turning off "Use wifi for location" in Location settings.
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Do you mean "Location determined by wi-fi and/or mobile networks"? Isn't that used (among other things) to find the GPS sattelites way faster (because if it knows where you are, it knows where the sattelites are)? Because I use my phone for car navigation, I really would prefer not to wait 5 minutes while my phone searches the sky for GPS...
I'll turn the option off for now, but do you really think that's the main problem? Because I had the option on before this update.
Still, thank you for your suggestion
Location by wifi is unrelated to GPS location, it's just a way of roughly fixing your location by the networks and wifi around you.
It's a battery hog and doesn't matter AGPS, which is used to speed up GPS fixes but gets downloaded via your data connection.
I found JB to be better for battery life that ICS, even on a stock ROM. Since changing to a minimumcustom ROM based on the latest stock I get two days use with around 6hr screen on time.
If you are still on stock that was updated from ICS then you might be better off wiping the phone and flashing a fresh install, even if you only use the stock JB ROM for your country, as things might have become corrupted over time.
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Location by wifi is unrelated to GPS location, it's just a way of roughly fixing your location by the networks and wifi around you.
It's a battery hog and doesn't matter AGPS, which is used to speed up GPS fixes but gets downloaded via your data connection.
I found JB to be better for battery life that ICS, even on a stock ROM. Since changing to a minimumcustom ROM based on the latest stock I get two days use with around 6hr screen on time.
If you are still on stock that was updated from ICS then you might be better off wiping the phone and flashing a fresh install, even if you only use the stock JB ROM for your country, as things might have become corrupted over time.
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I turned it off, but in the past 4 hours it ate 20% battery, so didn't help anything. I guess I could go for a fresh install, but how would I do that? I'm assuming a factory reset won't do it... If you could point me to a guide or at least a location to get up to date stock roms, it would be much appreciated
Thanks!
DeltaBlast said:
I turned it off, but in the past 4 hours it ate 20% battery, so didn't help anything. I guess I could go for a fresh install, but how would I do that? I'm assuming a factory reset won't do it... If you could point me to a guide or at least a location to get up to date stock roms, it would be much appreciated
Thanks!
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Would someone please point me in the right direction for up-to-date stock roms? Pretty please?
I think your issue is fast dormancy as you have the secril_fd wakelock.
There is an app on playstore that can toggle fast dormancy on or off on the Galaxy S3.
Give it a try and see if things improve.
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corrsea said:
I think your issue is fast dormancy as you have the secril_fd wakelock.
There is an app on playstore that can toggle fast dormancy on or off on the Galaxy S3.
Give it a try and see if things improve.
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Ok, I've installed it and turned FD off... I'll do a full charge now and see how long that keeps. Thanks for your suggestion! Is FD a new feature since JB? Because I haven't changed providers so if this has always been the case, it's probably still a seperate problem.
To be completely sure, I'd still like to do the complete reinstall, so I would really appreciate it if someone would point me in the direction of official updated stock roms. Thanks!
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Ok, I've installed it and turned FD off... I'll do a full charge now and see how long that keeps. Thanks for your suggestion! Is FD a new feature since JB? Because I haven't changed providers so if this has always been the case, it's probably still a seperate problem.
To be completely sure, I'd still like to do the complete reinstall, so I would really appreciate it if someone would point me in the direction of official updated stock roms. Thanks!
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You can reset it completely through Kies if you go to Tools>Firmware Upgrade and Installation and follow the instructions this will flash the latest firmware and reset your phone, do any backups you need first like contacts etc, then root the phone again or do whatever you want afterwards.
FD is not new. It just depends whether you provider supports it or not. If it is not supported and switched on it can cause battery drain.
Saying that my network does support it but when I first upgraded to XELLA I started getting the secril_fd wakelock. Switching off FD solved it at the time. Since then I have made a few changes, including modem and have switched it back on again without issue.
I noticed you've also got the Multipdp wakelock. A modem change sorted that one for me.
As I say I've since moved back to XELLA without issue and neither wakelock has returned.
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I've found all the JB ROMs that I've tried to consume alot more battery than ICS, with the same set of apps running and the same location/sync settings. I eventually reverted to CheckROM 3.5 (ICS) to get decent battery life again.
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FD is not new. It just depends whether you provider supports it or not. If it is not supported and switched on it can cause battery drain.
Saying that my network does support it but when I first upgraded to XELLA I started getting the secril_fd wakelock. Switching off FD solved it at the time. Since then I have made a few changes, including modem and have switched it back on again without issue.
I noticed you've also got the Multipdp wakelock. A modem change sorted that one for me.
As I say I've since moved back to XELLA without issue and neither wakelock has returned.
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Ok, thanks for the info. I don't think that's my problem though: my provider hasn't changed, the only thing that changed is that I upgraded to JB. Either way, I tested it: with FD off I still have pretty much the same result (maybe a bit better, but I need to properly test that. Yet it's definitely not the problem ). Too bad, it was a good suggestion.
ag4751 said:
You can reset it completely through Kies if you go to Tools>Firmware Upgrade and Installation and follow the instructions this will flash the latest firmware and reset your phone, do any backups you need first like contacts etc, then root the phone again or do whatever you want afterwards.
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Thank you! I just did this. I expected that all my settings would be gone, but apparently that's not the case. All my apps remain, so I wonder if this wiped it properly? I did lose root though. Well, I'll charge it to 100% and we'll see what happens from there. Thanks!
Perhaps rolling back to your previous modem would help.
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DeltaBlast said:
Ok, thanks for the info. I don't think that's my problem though: my provider hasn't changed, the only thing that changed is that I upgraded to JB. Either way, I tested it: with FD off I still have pretty much the same result (maybe a bit better, but I need to properly test that. Yet it's definitely not the problem ). Too bad, it was a good suggestion.
Thank you! I just did this. I expected that all my settings would be gone, but apparently that's not the case. All my apps remain, so I wonder if this wiped it properly? I did lose root though. Well, I'll charge it to 100% and we'll see what happens from there. Thanks!
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overnight it lost 25% in 11h42m, so I'd say that's a definite improvement. It didn't see any use in this time, but it should last me at least 1.5 day now, so I guess the problem was in the update after all. The battery of my (6 months newer) SGS3 still holds out longer, but I think that's the battery itself: hers also charges faster than mine.
Thank you all, for helping to think up solutions and get it working for me again! :victory:
Edit: Multipdp is now a lot higer up in the list (it's the top partial wakelock), maybe I should change modems. Can someone tell me how?
You can download a flashable zip from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076857
[REF] Galaxy S3 RIL+Modem CWM Flashable Collection
just flash it from recovery.
XDLID is a good one to start with.
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Hello People,
As you can see im new to this community, i hope i won´t bother you so much.
I got an S3 myselft and unlocked it right away before even using it. Did use Samsung S3 Toolkit , which i think its a great tool and this forum is a huge palace full of incredible geniuses so i´m really grateful for what is has done for me already.
As i stated in the title i´ve been getting serious problems after rooting my phone , everything working fine. or i think it is. But the UI in general became slow as hell , it crawls on the floor , pressing the menu butom to go back takes from 5 to 8 seconds to respond onto something , no matter what , oppening applications is not that slow but switching pages or screens is LAGGY as hell. I tried full wipe , cache wipe , before and after flashing.
Actually using this rom I9300UBEMA1_I9300UVOELL1_ARO its the Non branded version of my Local Firmwar (Argentina) , the kernel i use if the one that comes with Samsung S3 toolkit 7.0.0 the 4.1.2 unrooted version for JZ054K.ELLA ( file name :boot-insecure-ella-GTI9300 )
The original Firm and kernel the phone had was the 4.0.4 "Personal" Branded BLG6 Kernel.
I know this phone is already known as a battery killer , but i didn´t spected to be that kind of slow to crawl device. I´ve already tried multiple task killer apps like AutoKill or ES task manager , Better battery stats to check battery drain but still cannot find a reason. Tried Juice Defender Ultimate on Extreme settings. And did nothing to my battery life.
Then Looking for some Customized roms i found out 2 that took my attention :
One of them is Omega and the other is Android Revolution HD, which one of these are going to have a possitive effect on performance gain + battery economy without overkilling phone capabilities ? . Is that the answer? or are there any real app / patch that could really resolve this issue.
Well people im sorry if this question sounds quite stupid or bothers some people but i already researched more than 200+ hours and i couldn´t find the exact point where i should be heading to solve this.
I would start with a fairly,near to stock Rom, I won't suggest any, just go to development and read up on the Roms, but also try a custom kernel.
Don't use task killers, they are counter productive if not used right.
I would also suggest going through what you have enabled, the smart features can heavily affect battery, also poor signal, and it might well be you need to check your modem (baseband) and see if there are other more suitable ones.
Keep reading and searching and you will develop a good understanding of various ways to make this phone fly, just don't rush things.
And, backup, backup, backup! Enjoy
Better Battery Stats and Greenify from the market may help .
jje
Ezequiel18 said:
Hello People,
As you can see im new to this community, i hope i won´t bother you so much.
I got an S3 myselft and unlocked it right away before even using it. Did use Samsung S3 Toolkit , which i think its a great tool and this forum is a huge palace full of incredible geniuses so i´m really grateful for what is has done for me already.
As i stated in the title i´ve been getting serious problems after rooting my phone , everything working fine. or i think it is. But the UI in general became slow as hell , it crawls on the floor , pressing the menu butom to go back takes from 5 to 8 seconds to respond onto something , no matter what , oppening applications is not that slow but switching pages or screens is LAGGY as hell. I tried full wipe , cache wipe , before and after flashing.
Actually using this rom I9300UBEMA1_I9300UVOELL1_ARO its the Non branded version of my Local Firmwar (Argentina) , the kernel i use if the one that comes with Samsung S3 toolkit 7.0.0 the 4.1.2 unrooted version for JZ054K.ELLA ( file name :boot-insecure-ella-GTI9300 )
The original Firm and kernel the phone had was the 4.0.4 "Personal" Branded BLG6 Kernel.
I know this phone is already known as a battery killer , but i didn´t spected to be that kind of slow to crawl device. I´ve already tried multiple task killer apps like AutoKill or ES task manager , Better battery stats to check battery drain but still cannot find a reason. Tried Juice Defender Ultimate on Extreme settings. And did nothing to my battery life.
Then Looking for some Customized roms i found out 2 that took my attention :
One of them is Omega and the other is Android Revolution HD, which one of these are going to have a possitive effect on performance gain + battery economy without overkilling phone capabilities ? . Is that the answer? or are there any real app / patch that could really resolve this issue.
Well people im sorry if this question sounds quite stupid or bothers some people but i already researched more than 200+ hours and i couldn´t find the exact point where i should be heading to solve this.
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He's right, try flashing a more popular widely used stock firmware like the XXELLA rom or the recently released ones. Also do post screenshots of BetterBatteryStats.. Kernel wakelocks are major reasons why battery drains. Often IM+Social Media apps use network data in the background and are culprits behind wakelocks.
I for one can confirm the Facebook native app as being a major contributor to the problem.
You should also check if "Fast Dormancy" is supported by your carrier or not? FD is by default enabled on the S3, disabling can save substantial amount of battery life. You can do so by downloading "Fast Dormancy Toggle App" from PlayStore.
As for custom roms, it really depends on user experience. I have used Omega rom and it easily lasted a day and half for me with good usage.
Currently I'm running CyanogenMod 10.1 and it lasts me 2 days
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Try custom roms
Upgraded a couple days ago and here are the issues I'm having. Any help or suggestions appreciated by those of you who have been through this:
Battery life about half what it was on KitKat
Recharging VERY slow. MORE than twice as long as with KitKat
Pandora won't shut off when I exit car mode. Keeps coming back. Eventually it quits.
Voice in car mode is different - and like fingernails on a chalkboard!
I have done a factory reboot, which was alot harder than any other time I've done it, and that hasn't helped. Called both TMob and Samsung only to get the humma humma run around. "Replace the battery", "Do another factory reset", "Give it time to 'adjust' to the new OS". Nothing that helps much. Plus they said I could NOT re-install KitKat because of some changes made to the phone with then new update. Not sure if that ones true or not!
So for those who haven't upgraded yet - give it a bit. See what comes up in the next couple months. I sure didn't see this coming!
It is definitely more power hungry and inefficient, but not so much of the other issues you're talking about.
If I were you, I'd try to flash the stock lollipop ROM one more time, and do a factory reset right after flashing for good measure either by grabbing the stock ROM from sammobile and loading it by Odin or even flash using Samsung kies if it picks up your phone! (Sometimes Kies would give you error messages if you've loaded custom roms in the past)
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It is definitely more power hungry and inefficient, but not so much of the other issues you're talking about.
If I were you, I'd try to flash the stock lollipop ROM one more time, and do a factory reset right after flashing for good measure either by grabbing the stock ROM from sammobile and loading it by Odin or even flash using Samsung kies if it picks up your phone! (Sometimes Kies would give you error messages if you've loaded custom roms in the past)
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Well, I"m giving that a shot under the "It can't get worse" theory. Hopefully that's true. I'll let you know how it goes!
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Well, I"m giving that a shot under the "It can't get worse" theory. Hopefully that's true. I'll let you know how it goes!
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Well, it didn't get worse but it didn't get better either. After 6 days with Lollipop I can report a major loss of utility with the loss of battery life. I went from 15-18 hours of battery to 5-6. With that sort of battery life its not worth it. And its Samsungs fault for deploying this POS with inadequate testing.
Anyone successfully gone back to KitKat?
My contacts force close, led notifications don't work for texts or missed calls (yes it's on). Pretty disappointed too. Would like to downgrade to 4.4. Anyone dove this successfully.
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That IS the big question!
Well. I reinstalled KitKat using Odin and it went fine. Got my battery life back and that's a big deal. Couldn't see anything with Lollipop that was worth losing that! I'll think about an upgrade when I see what they do to fix this AND how well it works but right now I need battery life.