Installing a selfie camera from the G4 into the LG V30? - LG V30 Questions & Answers

This phone has been almost perfect for me besides the selfie camera. Yes I have installed gcam, and using it gets good results (besides slow snap speed). The issues is other apps that use the camera preview without processing like Snapchat, Instagram, as well as video chats.
Can you install the G4 8mp (~$6) front facing camera into the V30? It has a very similar size and attachment. Would this improve the preview issue or is it software? Would the phone even recognize the different sensor?
Has anyone done this before? I have heard different things, but trust XDA more.

Clintrojan said:
Can you install the G4 8mp (~$6) front facing camera into the V30? It has a very similar size and attachment. Would this improve the preview issue or is it software? Would the phone even recognize the different sensor?
Has anyone done this before? I have heard different things, but trust XDA more.
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Keeping in mind I'm not a dev. I don't even have this particular phone yet.
Similar connector isn't enough; it'll have to be the same pinout, same voltage, same signaling...
This wouldn't be so much an issue if manufacturers published mainboard schematics so these things could easily be compared, but alas, manufacturers are determined to 1: make you buy a new phone instead of attempting repairs or modification to your own, and 2: protect imaginary competitive edges they have over each other. Or something. I don't even know.
So it falls to plugging a module in and seeing if it works. Most folks probably don't want to risk wrecking their expensive mainboard by plugging in something with potentially the wrong pinout, so...
Software likely isn't a problem, but I would imagine that a custom ROM would be needed to build in the correct camera driver.
You might have better luck grabbing the camera module from a V35, since it's (probably) largely the same phone internally. It's 8mp as well, and a more modern piece.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable responds, since I'm far from an authority on this and curious as well.

Septfox said:
Keeping in mind I'm not a dev. I don't even have this particular phone yet.
Similar connector isn't enough; it'll have to be the same pinout, same voltage, same signaling...
This wouldn't be so much an issue if manufacturers published mainboard schematics so these things could easily be compared, but alas, manufacturers are determined to 1: make you buy a new phone instead of attempting repairs or modification to your own, and 2: protect imaginary competitive edges they have over each other. Or something. I don't even know.
So it falls to plugging a module in and seeing if it works. Most folks probably don't want to risk wrecking their expensive mainboard by plugging in something with potentially the wrong pinout, so...
Software likely isn't a problem, but I would imagine that a custom ROM would be needed to build in the correct camera driver.
You might have better luck grabbing the camera module from a V35, since it's (probably) largely the same phone internally. It's 8mp as well, and a more modern piece.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable responds, since I'm far from an authority on this and curious as well.
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Thanks. It looks like the V35 camera has a different connector wire. I'd assume that would be an issue in fitting into the V30.

Would require physically modding the phone as the cameras are different sizes and the lens is in a different place

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IF YOU HAVE A DEAD TABLET...please contact me.

If anyone out there manages to drop, break, crack or otherwise completely screw up their tablet, please get in touch with me. I don't want one that's "bricked" by software, I want a physically DEAD unit.
I would like to do a complete teardown of the hardware, and at this point can't afford to just buy another table to tear apart. (And who would want to do that to a perfectly good, running unit?) Isuppli has a teardown for the Galaxy Tab, but I don't think it's remotely close to our hardware since it's based on Snapdragon and not Tegra.
I want one that is beyond repair for the greater good of accessories. We are making a lot of speculations about what the hardware can and can't do. I have a feeling that there are ways to accomplish some of the things we would like to see.
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If anyone out there manages to drop, break, crack or otherwise completely screw up their tablet, please get in touch with me. I don't want one that's "bricked" by software, I want a physically DEAD unit.
I would like to do a complete teardown of the hardware, and at this point can't afford to just buy another table to tear apart. (And who would want to do that to a perfectly good, running unit?) Isuppli has a teardown for the Galaxy Tab, but I don't think it's remotely close to our hardware since it's based on Snapdragon and not Tegra.
I want one that is beyond repair for the greater good of accessories. We are making a lot of speculations about what the hardware can and can't do. I have a feeling that there are ways to accomplish some of the things we would like to see.
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Here is one that's already been done:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842354&highlight=breakdown+pictures
That's not exactly a "teardown" writeup. More of a "I took the back off and this is what I saw"
highlights that are missing.....
There is no trace routing.
There is no detail on the ancillary chips on the board.
There is no BOM, let alone any part numbers (other than the LCD)
The OP says "there's nothing interesting on the backside of the board" - Yeah, except there's at least 8 chunks of silicon on there, not including the 3 pin linear regulator.
There is space on the backside of the board for more memory, but the OP didn't even put the part numbers of the memory from the front side.
The only technical detail in that thread is what the LCD panel # is.
Sorry, I'm not trying to flame the person who did the original post, but teardowns need to be detailed and accurate or they aren't worth doing.
here's a good example of the documentation of a decent teardown
Any luck
may be a little to soon to ask but have you had any luck yet? id like to get my hands on just the shell of one so i can make a negative mold> dont want to risk ruining my tablet. this thing is goung to look sweet in my dash.
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I would love to see a teardown of the gTablet. I might also be interested in said broken tablet once the teardown is finished.
I broke my tablet this weekend trying to put a heat sink on the processor. Now it won't turn on. I haven't given up on it yet, I just haven't had time to debug it further. If I can't get it working again, i was hoping to get together with someone who dropped it and broke their screen. Otherwise the large battery could always be useful for other projects.
But, it also means I have taken mine apart and will do so again. I can take some high res (18MP) pictures of everything if you want. I took some while I was doing the heat sink, but I was only concerned about keeping that in focus.
Out of curiosity why were you trying to put a heat sink the processor?
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Out of curiosity why were you trying to put a heat sink the processor?
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lol i was wondering the same thing...dont fix it if it aint broke right?

[Q] Has anybody successfully removed the cameras?

Long story short, new company doesn't allow cameras in their facilities and I'm having serious Thunderbolt withdrawals.
I was wondering if anybody had ever removed the cameras from their Thunderbolt and the phone still worked after the "surgery."
If you did, is there a specific procedure you would follow? I found this online: http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/...=47&tag=siu-container;photopaging#photopaging
But that guy is actually just tearing the phone apart. Is there a way to get to just the cameras without pulling the whole phone apart?
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Go take a look at the FCC approval photos Adrynalyn posted... Not only will you be taking the phone apart, you'll be taking it apart to the BONE. I'm also pretty confident you'd destroy the phone in the process.
Curious... why would you even tell someone you've got the thing or show that it's got cameras on it, knowing the policy?
Jmc: I guarantee you're absolutely incorrect. There are many people who work in high security companies. There has to be at least one person who has done this.
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Go take a look at the FCC approval photos Adrynalyn posted... Not only will you be taking the phone apart, you'll be taking it apart to the BONE. I'm also pretty confident you'd destroy the phone in the process.
Curious... why would you even tell someone you've got the thing or show that it's got cameras on it, knowing the policy?
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Why do you think I would destroy the phone?
As for your other question, sometimes security will sweep the entire building/staff, just in case. In those instances, if you're caught with a cameraphone, you're getting fired.
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infinite012 said:
Why do you think I would destroy the phone?
As for your other question, sometimes security will sweep the entire building/staff, just in case. In those instances, if you're caught with a cameraphone, you're getting fired.
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I think you'd destroy the phone because that camera isn't just a simple surface mount device like the power or volume micro-switches. It's an entire 8MP camera in a VERY tiny box. To kinda give you an idea how those things are mass produced, a solder paste is applied sort of like one might silk screen a shirt. Then the individual components are placed in their correct locations. Finally, the entire thing is baked in an oven to melt the soldier paste and adhere the components. If you want to see what I'm talking about, go to Qualcomm's website and look at the physical interface for the Snapdragon chip. Assuming the cameras is mounted in a remotely similar way, you're going to destroy the device removing them. Additionally, the FFC also functions as both a brightness and proximity sensor. Removing it would have consequences that would be difficult to predict.
infinite012 said:
Long story short, new company doesn't allow cameras in their facilities and I'm having serious Thunderbolt withdrawals.
I was wondering if anybody had ever removed the cameras from their Thunderbolt and the phone still worked after the "surgery."
If you did, is there a specific procedure you would follow? I found this online: http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/...=47&tag=siu-container;photopaging#photopaging
But that guy is actually just tearing the phone apart. Is there a way to get to just the cameras without pulling the whole phone apart?
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Would filling over it with some sort of hard/opaque/sticky/permanent adhesive substance suffice? Something like putting epoxy or something over the lens so it renders it no longer useful.
yareally said:
Would filling over it with some sort of hard/opaque/sticky/permanent adhesive substance suffice? Something like putting epoxy or something over the lens so it renders it no longer useful.
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That might work for the rear camera, but the FFC needs to function correctly to control screen brightness and proximity.
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That might work for the rear camera, but the FFC needs to function correctly to control screen brightness and proximity.
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I dont know about that. Very few android phones have a front facing camera and they function just fine. Besides you can manually adjust brightness. The proximity sensor also has nothing to do with the camera. It's located under the speaker for receiving calls near the LED.
yareally said:
I dont know about that. Very few android phones have a front facing camera and they function just fine. Besides you can manually adjust brightness. The proximity sensor also has nothing to do with the camera. It's located under the speaker for receiving calls near the LED.
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I was wrong. You're right about the prox sensor. Still, the devices that lack the FFC use a light sensor instead. I'd go nuts trying to adjust the screen all the time. If it were completely removed, there's still no promise the screen would even light up.
loonatik78 said:
I was wrong. You're right about the prox sensor. Still, the devices that lack the FFC use a light sensor instead. I'd go nuts trying to adjust the screen all the time. If it were completely removed, there's still no promise the screen would even light up.
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Yeah that would be a pain, lol, but maybe he's desperate enough he doesn't care. He would obviously be addicted to his phone way more than I would be if so
yareally said:
Yeah that would be a pain, lol, but maybe he's desperate enough he doesn't care. He would obviously be addicted to his phone way more than I would be if so
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Well, it's stuff like this that's the reason RIM still builds their top tier BlackBerrys with and without cameras.
Maybe this is too simple but how about just leave your phone in your car?
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Just a suggestion to the OP, there's been others that have asked the same question before. Might try looking through those http://www.google.com/search?client...ndroid+phone&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 for different solutions.
Yeah, I've been doing that (leaving phone in car), but I'm getting bored of the playlists on my ipod and would like to spice it up with Pandora.
Also, I would like to be able to receive emergency calls/texts from my family.
I have searched Google, which is how I got that first link with the teardown. If you guys think it's unwise to take out the cameras after looking at that, please say so. If you're making assumptions about the necessity of the cameras, take a look at the link.
infinite012 said:
Yeah, I've been doing that (leaving phone in car), but I'm getting bored of the playlists on my ipod and would like to spice it up with Pandora.
Also, I would like to be able to receive emergency calls/texts from my family.
I have searched Google, which is how I got that first link with the teardown. If you guys think it's unwise to take out the cameras after looking at that, please say so. If you're making assumptions about the necessity of the cameras, take a look at the link.
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Functionality aside, simply how that big one on the rear is mounted would dissuade me.
infinite012 said:
Yeah, I've been doing that (leaving phone in car), but I'm getting bored of the playlists on my ipod and would like to spice it up with Pandora.
Also, I would like to be able to receive emergency calls/texts from my family.
I have searched Google, which is how I got that first link with the teardown. If you guys think it's unwise to take out the cameras after looking at that, please say so. If you're making assumptions about the necessity of the cameras, take a look at the link.
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It's your phone, but I wouldn't mess with it unless I knew what I were doing with it.
Remove the camera apps, you can't take a picture with it if the application to take it has been removed. (i'm sure the company won't believe it, but it is a solution)
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Remove the camera apps, you can't take a picture with it if the application to take it has been removed. (i'm sure the company won't believe it, but it is a solution)
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If only it were that simple. I didn't believe it at first, but people get fired for having camera capable phones even if they don't have a battery in or near the phone. They're really strict on security.
Go to Wal-Mart & get a cheap Go Phone and some mins . If it has a camera , destroy that one .

HTC One rant!

The following is my thoughts on our (my wife and I) newly acquired HTC One phones. Thoughts regarding the big, glaring problem would be appreciated.
In the past week and a half, I found two killer deals on the HTC One (64gb) models, which I bought for my wife and I (second hand). At only $280 a piece, how could I pass it up??
Both my wife and I really love the look of these phones. Ours are matching silver models, running stock (Sense 5.0, Android 4.3) on Straight Talk using the AT&T SIMs. The beautiful aluminum finish, gorgeous 1080p 4.7" screen, BoomSound, and the best Sense UI ever! Fast too; the Snapdragon 600 and 2gb RAM really make this thing fly! I don't even mind the BlinkFeed, and other bloatware too much. High quality construction just oozes from this device.
After hearing about the amazing "ultrapixel" camera, I was excited about trying out the camera. To my dismay, this camera has been the source of my frustration. On both phones, the main camera refuses to focus. No amount of cleaning, Tap-to-focus, different modes, nor different camera apps have helped with this problem. On my wife's phone, you can gently tap the back of the phone, and it will focus suddenly for a few seconds to a few minutes, before totally unfocusing again. With my phone, no amount of tapping will make it focus at all. The only focus I can get on my phone, is on objects within about 2 feet of the lens (and, no, I an not using the Macro setting in the options, not the video camera focus lock). Further, if there is a low light situation, there is a lot of "blue noise"that gets into the picture. The front facing camera is fine, though.
I have Googled this problem, and it seems to be a pretty common problem (camera blurriness/bad low light conditions). HTC has acknowledged this problem to some degree, saying a software patch will be released soon. This problem has been ongoing since the phone was released, though, and I just don't think HTC gives a damn.
Any thoughts on this? Except for the camera, this is a fantastic device! So utterly disappointed with the camera, that I an considering just selling it, and getting a different phone. Help would be appreciated!
Sorry to hear your issue. I can say at least for me I do not have the camera issues your describing. Perhaps the camera issues were why they sold the phone.
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Valdeck said:
Sorry to hear your issue. I can say at least for me I do not have the camera issues your describing. Perhaps the camera issues were why they sold the phone.
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Perhaps, but there is ALOT of folks out there with camera issues. HTC has admitted in varying stages that there are issues with the camera, but yet they have done really NOTHING to fix them.
In my humble opinion, I believe this is a hardware defect. Defect, as in many, many from the factory line were pushed with this issue. My thinking is, is that there is some kind of focusing mechanism piece in the lens setup, that is either getting hung up on something, or was made with such poor quality, that its either breaking, or just simply not doing its function. This thought is based on my wife's phone, as I can knock the back of the phone near the lens, and all of a sudden it will work for a bit.
Of course, this isn't the case on all the HTC phones, which makes me think something is just getting hung up in the hardware lens piece. I would bet that is why HTC doesn't want to recall all those phones, as they made it nearly impossible to open up the phone (I am sure its a royal b*tch for them to get into as well!). Plus, with their less than stellar track record, this would only serve up to hurt their reputation more, and show how vulnerable the "ultrapixel" camera really is.
I know the blue tint is a acknowledge issue but your case is the first I have heard about focusing issues. Either way I do hope you can get it fixed. I would imagine it is still under manufactures warranty so try with att or by contacting htc
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That's It...I'm Done. Goodbye LG G6 First Chance I Get.

I, like many others across the web (and some non-web silent ones) have experienced spider cracking of the camera glass for no apparent reason...didn't drop the phone...nothing else in the pocket...etc.
There seems to be a quality control issue with the camera glass that LG and Tmobile refuse to accept, and are putting the responsibility on the customer to pay for. This is incredibly, enormously, and exceedingly unfair.
Between both companies blaming us, and less than smart forum posters on the internet who don't understand what quality control is (some are bad, some are good...you probably got a good one...so chill)...I am looking to jump to another flagship sometime soon. Preferably one with a wide angle camera.
Sounds like a user error.
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Sounds like a user error.
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Sorry, but I disagree. The sheer amount of complaints I've read that are very similar, coupled with the fact this has been an issue on previous LG's leads me to believe it's a little more than user error.
Thankfully I seem to have one of the good ones, but for me LG should at least be investigating the issue further rather than fully blaming the consumers.
How do you know you have a good model without this default ?
DVC1985 said:
Sorry, but I disagree. The sheer amount of complaints I've read that are very similar, coupled with the fact this has been an issue on previous LG's leads me to believe it's a little more than user error.
Thankfully I seem to have one of the good ones, but for me LG should at least be investigating the issue further rather than fully blaming the consumers.
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Sounds like a user error.
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Spot on!
User error buying pi*ss poor engineering.
Rinzler said:
Spot on!
User error buying pi*ss poor engineering.
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Every new phone launches with some random issues. I just don't think this is anything widespread. Time will tell but the number of complaints on this topic seem minimal. In comparison look at the Galaxy S8 and the pink tint, the iPhone randomly shutting off at 40% or the pixels camera flare.
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I, like many others across the web (and some non-web silent ones) have experienced spider cracking of the camera glass for no apparent reason...didn't drop the phone...nothing else in the pocket...etc.
There seems to be a quality control issue with the camera glass that LG and Tmobile refuse to accept, and are putting the responsibility on the customer to pay for. This is incredibly, enormously, and exceedingly unfair.
Between both companies blaming us, and less than smart forum posters on the internet who don't understand what quality control is (some are bad, some are good...you probably got a good one...so chill)...I am looking to jump to another flagship sometime soon. Preferably one with a wide angle camera.
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Taking into consideration, the sheer quantity of handsets (USA Complaints) compared to other markets... How many people outside of the USA, have had genuine issues (No user carelessness) with their camera glass?
By general market sale proportion, obviously there will be more American complaints about build quality issues.. BUT.. as someone in Europe and having owned several LG handsets now.. I have never had any of the "common issues" commented on over the past few generations of LG handsets.. ?
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Every new phone launches with some random issues. I just don't think this is anything widespread. Time will tell but the number of complaints on this topic seem minimal. In comparison look at the Galaxy S8 and the pink tint, the iPhone randomly shutting off at 40% or the pixels camera flare.
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Exactly. Good luck to OP switching phones. Hope he doesn't get a S8 with red tint or any other flagship phone that all have a list of problems you can read about online.
This is all surely stirring the pot to be sure but how do we benefit from doing so? We have no objective idea of how widespread these issues are, so hard to comment beyond our personal opinions of what exactly is happening with the case of a cracked lens. It's up to each to decide I guess. Even harder to convince LG to open up about it given their past rep with QC.
I think the camera lens having more area and being flush with the case is bad design as "pretty" as it is.
Device durability seems to have been sacrified for features/aesthetics as of late, but this is not just LG. What is the point of having a pretty phone if you need an awkward case to protect the edges of the screen?
There isn't much choice either when it comes to Android flagships. Not like there used to be...
It is possible that a flaw in the glass crystal structure causing these problem, but it seems unlikely as not that Hugh amount of people is having this problem.
I've dropped my G6 about 18 inches down onto a granite surface plate at work without any problems lol. I don't think it's widespread.
It is a widespread issue and needs to be stopped
Rinzler said:
I, like many others across the web (and some non-web silent ones) have experienced spider cracking of the camera glass for no apparent reason...didn't drop the phone...nothing else in the pocket...etc.
There seems to be a quality control issue with the camera glass that LG and Tmobile refuse to accept, and are putting the responsibility on the customer to pay for. This is incredibly, enormously, and exceedingly unfair.
Between both companies blaming us, and less than smart forum posters on the internet who don't understand what quality control is (some are bad, some are good...you probably got a good one...so chill)...I am looking to jump to another flagship sometime soon. Preferably one with a wide angle camera.
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Previously i posted about starting a petition or contacting media outlets as well as LG about the issue but got nothing but nonchalant comments in return. Something needs to be done about this issue now
HKpKsON said:
It is possible that a flaw in the glass crystal structure causing these problem, but it seems unlikely as not that Hugh amount of people is having this problem.
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A familiar theme that I've noticed with the complaints I've read is that they were taking photos a short while before they noticed the cracks. Could it be the flash or camera body overheating the glass? That heat combined with a little stress and pressure in a pocket could be the cause of most the problems.
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A familiar theme that I've noticed with the complaints I've read is that they were taking photos a short while before they noticed the cracks. Could it be the flash or camera body overheating the glass? That heat combined with a little stress and pressure in a pocket could be the cause of most the problems.
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Possible but very unlikely, the heat should never transfer to the camera glass in the first place. There is an empty between the glass and the camera and the flash.
I love it here, the most entertaining of the XDA forums I use.
Threads like this and the I-never-researched-before-buying-and-now-I'm-SO-pissed-there's-no-all-important-notification-LED are great to read through.
I love my V20
Just because there is a thread reporting camera glass problems with hundreds of replies doesn't equal a wide spread problem. The v20 had cases of this too I think it's likely a random issue with the quality.
Without g4 bootloop level exposure you aren't likely to get it fixed for free. It took literally over a year for LG to acknowledge the bootloop problem and that was only the g4 that was acknowledged.
The free repair on this issue was a hit and miss but reportedly LG covers this issue under the V10 and g4 past warranty.
You have to also look at it from LGs prospective, there are a select few that can't take responsibility for dropping their phone and will attempt to get fixed for free when it's their fault.
How is LG supposed to know that the camera lens magically cracked? Until there is enough reports sent in to put it on g4 bootloop level of exposure I am afraid you're unlikely to get a free replacement or repair.
I don't think the problem is false and I wouldn't blame you for being pissed but there is an unfortunate few that ruin it for the rest of us.
On that note TMobile is usually pretty good about exchanges, especially with the jump program. I was able to jump with a V10 still rooted without a problem. They're pretty lax compared to other carriers.
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No one is saying that quality issues shouldn't be brought to LG's attention. I think what most people who have responded are saying is that the "I got a phone that has a problem and I read on the internet that 10 other people had this problem some I'm done with said phone forever" comments are silly. All phones have a batch or 2 that have problems. Contact LG and get a replacement or move to another phone and hope you get one without problems. I will say LG's handling of the bootloop issue was poor but hopefully they've learned.

LG G5 Reliability (Should i Buy One if it's Cheap?)

Hey all,
I'm considering getting a G5 because they are pretty cheap on Amazon right now - $249 for a new unlocked RS988 with a US warranty. When searching the web for information on it there are a LOT of complaints about build quality and reliability issues, but only a few posts here and there that people's G5s are working properly. Now usually people will go online and post issues they are having to get help; nobody goes online to post, "I just wanted to say my phone is working great today!"
That said, it's tough to determine if this model is a complete lemon or if there are just a lot of complaints about a few issues.
How has your LG G5 experience been? Would you recommend getting one or steering clear and looking elsewhere?
Thanks for your input!!
... so a little back story on this. I have two phones I use regularly. By night my daily driver is a Samsung GS7 Edge, but I can't have a camera(phone) at work, so during the day I use an LG G3 which I've disassembled and removed the cameras from. I move my SIM card from device to device every time I switch to the other one. I've had my G3 for about 3 years now (got it new from Verizon) and the processor abruptly failed preventing the phone from powering up at all (I've tried all the tricks in the book including jumpering the main board, heat-gunning the processor, and baking the main board in the oven -- which temporarily worked). I wound up buying a "dead" G3 on ebay, wiping and reflashing it but it's having the same dreaded processor failure -- which is apparently a common defect in the G3s (also apparently an LG signature).
In the mean time I'm relying on my even older Samsung GS3 but it too is beginning to have hardware failures so I'm looking to get something new.
That said it's not vital for me to have a perfectly working phone 100% of the time, I don't need it to be working all the time. What is important to me is having a device I can safely disassemble to remove the cameras without destroying it. However, I don't want to spend the money on a device which will be a lemon and have unnecessary headaches when I could buy something less flashy but more reliable. What I really want to know is: is the LG G5 reliable ~80% of the time? ~50% of the time? ~10% of the time? I think you get the picture.
I'm sure this is probably more information than necessary, but thank you all for your time and input!
An objective list of issues you're likely to experience:
The G5 is notorious for having GPS issues, GPS performance may degrade or just not work reliably from the beginning. There is a hardware hack/workaround which can ameliorate the situation but YMMV if GPS is is something you need.
Your screen will progressively develop (temporary) image retention through exposure to heat/heavy usage. On default settings, ghosting will occur within seconds of white elements being displayed, starting from the corners of the display. If you tame the screen calibration somewhat (either via a custom kernel or filter app) the issue is reduced to the point of being practically unnoticeable.
Most G5 screens have some light bleed, nothing excessive, but noticeable on black screens with full brightness.
AOSP and other ROM support for the G5 is not fantastic; LG's quirks mean there are a lot of issues compared to other devices, and the G5 being a pretty overlooked/unpopular device the dev community is small.
The surface finish of the phone is fragile, especially at the module connection. It will hold up well if you're careful, but don't expect a pristine device if you use it naked.
The positives, as far as your situation goes:
Incredibly easy to open up and modular compared to other modern phones - you shouldn't have an issue modifying it and putting it back together as needed. Also easy to repair if anything goes wrong.
LG seems to have fixed the hardware bootloop death that plagued earlier phones up to the V10
Speaker quality is surprisingly good with the default charging chin
No major problems with heat in normal usage, battery life isn't bad
Current stock based ROMs (e.g. Fulmics, or just rooted vanilla) are perfectly stable and perform very well, especially with a third party kernel to stop the image retention from being an issue
Always on display on these ROMs has an impressively small impact on battery, contrast and black levels are good enough that you won't be able to tell it is backlit unless you move the phone from a very bright environment to pitch black (the always on display takes a second to adjust the contrast)
All said, it's a fantastic performer for a great price (worth much more than they're going for, honestly) and with some features that can be hard to find in today's flagships. It's reliable in the sense that it will work well, and predictably, but it's far from without issues. If you can live with/work around the issues you shouldn't have any unpleasant surprises.
Thanks @epithetic for a very detailed pros/cons! I truly appreciate it.
GPS may be an issue, I use a Map My Run to track daily running workouts during lunch at work. I've seen the workarounds and figure I can implement that when I have it open to remove the cameras. I have seen many posts that most fixes are temporary and GPS will degrade again.
I find it amazing that there is any screen burn-in on a modern phone! But there it is, if there's a fix/solution I'm OK with that.
I NEVER use a phone naked ... I'm too clumsy and will break it!
Also I'm perfectly fine with tweaked stock ROMs. Having a GS7 Edge there's not too much development because of how locked down the phone is. I'm fine with even root and can debloat/tweak/adblock to my hearts content.
Thanks again!
I got a T-Mobile branded G5 a few months back. Absolutely none of the problems and build quality issues I was warned about. My phone has a February 2017 build date, which is 10 months after release. I suspect LG fixed the issues between that time.
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HKSpeed said:
I got a T-Mobile branded G5 a few months back. Absolutely none of the problems and build quality issues I was warned about. My phone has a February 2017 build date, which is 10 months after release. I suspect LG fixed the issues between that time.
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I have experienced zero issues with my RS988 G5 , but mine has a February 2017 build date as well. It's also only about a month old.
I also rarely use GPS so I can't really comment on that.
I've had my H850 since May 2016 and had absolutely 0 issues with it
Sprint LG G5 LS992 here with a build date of January 2017. Got the entire list of hardware issues epithetic listed. However I got this phone from LG customer service directly, so my unit may be an example of "new motherboard, old hardware" refurbishing that they shoved on me.
As such I'd also warn to check for dead and/or stuck pixels. Can't see any with my naked eye under normal usage at a distance. But when I eventually got a Cardboard VR headset to put the phone inside of, I found about two dozen problematic pixels scattered around in my view, more than the warranty tolerance amount for the display.
That said I do agree it is very easy to service parts on this phone. With a tinkering and scavenging attitude it is definitely a good value for the CPU, GPU and camera performance.

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