If anyone out there manages to drop, break, crack or otherwise completely screw up their tablet, please get in touch with me. I don't want one that's "bricked" by software, I want a physically DEAD unit.
I would like to do a complete teardown of the hardware, and at this point can't afford to just buy another table to tear apart. (And who would want to do that to a perfectly good, running unit?) Isuppli has a teardown for the Galaxy Tab, but I don't think it's remotely close to our hardware since it's based on Snapdragon and not Tegra.
I want one that is beyond repair for the greater good of accessories. We are making a lot of speculations about what the hardware can and can't do. I have a feeling that there are ways to accomplish some of the things we would like to see.
bnovak said:
If anyone out there manages to drop, break, crack or otherwise completely screw up their tablet, please get in touch with me. I don't want one that's "bricked" by software, I want a physically DEAD unit.
I would like to do a complete teardown of the hardware, and at this point can't afford to just buy another table to tear apart. (And who would want to do that to a perfectly good, running unit?) Isuppli has a teardown for the Galaxy Tab, but I don't think it's remotely close to our hardware since it's based on Snapdragon and not Tegra.
I want one that is beyond repair for the greater good of accessories. We are making a lot of speculations about what the hardware can and can't do. I have a feeling that there are ways to accomplish some of the things we would like to see.
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Here is one that's already been done:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842354&highlight=breakdown+pictures
That's not exactly a "teardown" writeup. More of a "I took the back off and this is what I saw"
highlights that are missing.....
There is no trace routing.
There is no detail on the ancillary chips on the board.
There is no BOM, let alone any part numbers (other than the LCD)
The OP says "there's nothing interesting on the backside of the board" - Yeah, except there's at least 8 chunks of silicon on there, not including the 3 pin linear regulator.
There is space on the backside of the board for more memory, but the OP didn't even put the part numbers of the memory from the front side.
The only technical detail in that thread is what the LCD panel # is.
Sorry, I'm not trying to flame the person who did the original post, but teardowns need to be detailed and accurate or they aren't worth doing.
here's a good example of the documentation of a decent teardown
Any luck
may be a little to soon to ask but have you had any luck yet? id like to get my hands on just the shell of one so i can make a negative mold> dont want to risk ruining my tablet. this thing is goung to look sweet in my dash.
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I would love to see a teardown of the gTablet. I might also be interested in said broken tablet once the teardown is finished.
I broke my tablet this weekend trying to put a heat sink on the processor. Now it won't turn on. I haven't given up on it yet, I just haven't had time to debug it further. If I can't get it working again, i was hoping to get together with someone who dropped it and broke their screen. Otherwise the large battery could always be useful for other projects.
But, it also means I have taken mine apart and will do so again. I can take some high res (18MP) pictures of everything if you want. I took some while I was doing the heat sink, but I was only concerned about keeping that in focus.
Out of curiosity why were you trying to put a heat sink the processor?
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Out of curiosity why were you trying to put a heat sink the processor?
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lol i was wondering the same thing...dont fix it if it aint broke right?
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My battery has gone to hell. After getting it down to 5% one day, it just would not hold a charge long. Then I got it down to 10% a week later, and it really got bad. Life is about 1/3 what it used to be. I also have some dust and even small hairs or flecks in the screen.
So...I ordered a new advance replacement unit from T-Mobile, and it just arrived. Simple enough? Well, I have the memory upgrade in mine, so I need to do some component swapping. What's the best way to go about this? What parts can be disconnected easily (or more importantly, reconnected)? Where is the damn battery (didn't see it in the disassembly photos on the site)?
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So...I ordered a new advance replacement unit from T-Mobile, and it just arrived. Simple enough? Well, I have the memory upgrade in mine, so I need to do some component swapping. What's the best way to go about this? What parts can be disconnected easily (or more importantly, reconnected)? Where is the damn battery (didn't see it in the disassembly photos on the site)?
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Please specify 'component swapping' in more detail... Are you actually thinking about swapping the memory upgrade??? You do know that that would mean desoldering the 2 big memory chips on both boards, cleaning them and the boards, and soldering them back... How good are you at smd soldering??? We haven't dared doing that, yet... (some pics of upgrading memory of an iPaq are available at http://www.linearlogix.com/ipaq/upgradereview.html
There are commercial services doing the upgrade (32 -> 64 mb), if I were you I'd contact one of those.
Other than that, we're currently swapping lcd screens, touchpanels, mainboards from 3 broken units to create 2 working units and 1 very broken one. So, what do you need to know exactly?
BTW, the battery is stuck on the inside of the back cover.
XDA developer bigmac (taking pictures of the open units right now...)
No, no, I can solder normal stuff, but not that. I mean, I assume what I need to do is keep my own motherboard. I'd like the screen, case, and battery from the new unit. On the radio section, I suppose it doesn't matter either way. So I incorrectly said "component" when what I really meant was "board," and desired advice on doing that.
The hazards of posting in the middle of the night after too much work.
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No, no, I can solder normal stuff, but not that. I mean, I assume what I need to do is keep my own motherboard. I'd like the screen, case, and battery from the new unit. On the radio section, I suppose it doesn't matter either way. So I incorrectly said "component" when what I really meant was "board," and desired advice on doing that.
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Ok, so you want to use the screen/touchpanel/backlight assembly from the new one (smart move, not taking that apart; besides the fact that it's glued together and you need to separate it on the correct separation, that also leaves the risk of forgetting the correct orientation of the glass panel with little dots on it, used to distribute the backlight evently onto the lcd; and, there are slightly different assemblies out there which need slightly different panels...). You should keep all boards from the old unit (old mainboard including old radio unit, use the new screen/touchpanel/backlight assemly, and the new case (which includes the new battery).
You could consider swapping IMEI numbers on the units... Although _shops_ never register the numbers when they give out units, service departments might. You know where to find the tool to do that...
The screwing around of the parts should not take more than half an hour if it's the first time you take apart this unit (but have taken apart small electronics before) and less if you've done it before.
Beware of the really thin clear plastic rings used under the screws to screw down the display...
We won't be publishing a very detailed 'how to swap your screen' instruction any time soon but do have some raw unedited pictures of the operation. I'll see if we can get them online any time soon.
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I ended up doing the change and ran into a snag--the plastic pin that sticks out of the top power button was loose or broken (probably happened in one of the many drops the unit has experienced). When I opened the case, I lost that. Had to send it to PPC Techs to have them solder in a new power switch.
Other than that, disassembly is pretty easy and straightforward. You mentioned you won't publish a how-to...is that because of not wanting to have it on the site, or that nobody wants to write one? If the latter, I'd be happy to write it up and include my detailed pics.
If you want to make a detailed howto on how to open and close the unit, and how to exchange certain parts, we will gladly put it on!
Do make sure to stress that people need a certain level of experience or be willing to risk losing the device though...
So, I've been spending the better part of an hour scouring over the Anandtech teardown gallery of the prime trying to get a decent understanding of the GPS/WiFi antennas and the underlying design flaws which contribute to these features messing up; namely the giant metal shield of a cover and the placement of the antennas. They're not exactly in a bad place, but I guess Asus assumed that if you were using WiFi/GPS with your tablet then you would always do so with the screen facing the AP/satellites. In reality, mine at least, it's the back of the device generally pointing to these things. Maybe I place my network hubs in strange places and enjoy astronomy apps too much?
Now on to the actual question, especially to any of you who have gotten the device and been brave enough to peek inside it yourself; would creating my own plastic windows/metal grates within the aluminum backing actually help anything? Do these antennas broadcast a 360 degree signal or are they directional? The motherboard itself would allow decent signal to get to the transmitter wouldn't it, so long as the case does?
My order isn't set to ship for another month, but I think I'll be getting this tablet regardless of the known issues, though the audio/video problems with the miniHDMI port make me a bit nervous. This thing will still be a power-house even as better spec'd tablets come out, just like my single-core Desire Z is still pretty relevant and decent. Just not top-of-the-line, and it wasn't for any real amount of time, but that's just how these things go.
Ideally, the antenna would couple to the whole backplate, making a big slot antenna (but then it starts to risk being too directional). It's just as probably that the issue is noise or feeble pogo-pin connectors.
If you do make a cut-out, it needs to be about 1 wavelength larger than the outline of the antenna (and you risk de-tuning the antenna if it was designed to operate in close proximity to a groundplane)
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Ideally, the antenna would couple to the whole backplate, making a big slot antenna (but then it starts to risk being too directional). It's just as probably that the issue is noise or feeble pogo-pin connectors.
If you do make a cut-out, it needs to be about 1 wavelength larger than the outline of the antenna (and you risk de-tuning the antenna if it was designed to operate in close proximity to a groundplane)
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Coupling to the backplate, though increasing power decreases accuracy doesn't it?
I hadn't thought of the pogo-pins as a possible culprit, that's certainly possible.
Couldn't I make a couple windows and retro-fit either some plastic or plexi-glass into the design? Would that help keep from de-tuning, especially if kept to a small size with accurate positioning?
Thank you for the response, I know nothing of the finer details on GPS and other wireless signals.
*Edit: After re-reading and thinking, I actually understand what you're saying. Plastic or no, any cutout would need to be a very specific size larger than the antenna itself which would take more than I would be able to do I'm sure. Oh well, I know I'll still love this thing, so long as the miniHDMI works properly, I'll be happy. Phone's GPS works like a dream.
And now I apologize. I found it odd not finding topics on this, but now I've found them and have a bit more of an understanding on the matter. Namely that the cpu seems to have a strong possibility of creating interference for the chip. The casing apparently just worsens the issue.
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And now I apologize. I found it odd not finding topics on this, but now I've found them and have a bit more of an understanding on the matter. Namely that the cpu seems to have a strong possibility of creating interference for the chip. The casing apparently just worsens the issue.
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How sure are we about this? I've read that Apple puts their WiFi antenna behind the black plastic logo on their WiFi-only models for exactly this reason. Not only that, but on the 3g models they simply have all the wireless modules placed on top of the device where they are covered with black plastic as well.
It seems to me that a stupid plastic apple cutout - a complex geometric shape - is not likely capable of being as "tuned" as a rectangular cutout. Yet, I think it's safe to say that the 3G and WiFi versions of the iPad have similar if not identical WiFi performance. That is to say, I don't think manufactures are using the aluminum back for anything other than looking pretty. I think it's safe to hack away at.
Thoughts?
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I don't think manufactures are using the aluminum back for anything other than looking pretty.
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Maybe for some heat dispersion too?
I wish they would start selling the back plate only (like they do with ipods etc)
That way i'm sure someone could cutout a shape and try the antenna behind a plastic window etc, but youd always have the option to put the original back.
I wouldnt mind modding mine after the garantee has ran out.
I think Asus might consider making an after-market backplate that they would fit to your Prime after they have fully tested the issues.
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I think Asus might consider making an after-market backplate that they would fit to your Prime after they have fully tested the issues.
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I've been thinking that even if Asus didn't some third party will. And I'm willing to get to cutting the day it arrives if I can determine it'll help. However, I don't want just an open grate for dust and junk to get into. Maybe just a thin fabric filter, or should I close it up with some plastic/plexiglass and epoxy?
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I've been thinking that even if Asus didn't some third party will. And I'm willing to get to cutting the day it arrives if I can determine it'll help. However, I don't want just an open grate for dust and junk to get into. Maybe just a thin fabric filter, or should I close it up with some plastic/plexiglass and epoxy?
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I don't see why plastic wouldn't work. It's what the iPad has and it seems to work out in that case.
You should consider cross-posting this in the "General" forum. It is a "question", but the General forum gets a LOT more eyeballs.
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I don't see why plastic wouldn't work. It's what the iPad has and it seems to work out in that case.
You should consider cross-posting this in the "General" forum. It is a "question", but the General forum gets a LOT more eyeballs.
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i agree, this post should be on general... this would be a great solution, a homemade plastic ipad-like hole... we need it, and if third party doesnt do this, we will have to do it...
well, but anyone tested the device without the case to see the real power of the wifi-gps-bt ?
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i agree, this post should be on general... this would be a great solution, a homemade plastic ipad-like hole... we need it, and if third party doesnt do this, we will have to do it...
well, but anyone tested the device without the case to see the real power of the wifi-gps-bt ?
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I will be, but it's still a good two-four weeks before I have mine. All mentions of it I've seen in general never get answered, I haven't seen anyone comment on whether or not they've tried without the backing. Probably because most aren't willing to try and heat up the glue to do so or damage the thing in the process...
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Does the aluminium back plate attenuate both wifi and gps signals? From what I have read it seems to be confirmed that this is the situation, although other factors such as internal interference have NOT been discounted, nor has the connection method (gold pogo pin) between motherboard and the antennae (blackened out pcb strip). I have noted on the TF101 Transformer teardown, a very similar placement of both WIFI and GPS antennae to that on the TF201 Transformer Prime - near the top edge and adjacent each other. Looking at similarities between models, an obvious and perhaps too simple explination would be the aluminium back plate. There does seem to be some interest in experimenting with making some holes (similar to the speaker grill), on the back plate in front of the antennae in the hope that it MAY improve reception. I have read numerous posts and was hoping that someone may have tried this. I don't want to hear about the merits of having or not having a GPS and how it matters to them personaly etc - lets focus people, but whether someone has had the ability and knowledge to try it. I am unsure given the wavelength of both GPS and WIFI (1.2 / 1.5 Ghz) whether mutliple small holes would do it. I feel that a transparent plastic window may be required. I do not believe the back plate is used a coupled ground plate etc. and it is used purely as the chasis. Come on - there has to be some smart engineering graduates/professionals who are willing to give this a go...it would have been nice if they were paid by ASUS but that seems unlikely. Point to note - that the GPS and WIFI antennas (there are two for the WIFI on the TF201) would be obtaining some reception through the front gorilla glass and plastic (on which the antennae are mounted). My question is - what and IF modifications are necessary to the back plate to obtain better reception. Any ideas?
I have not seen a single test where anyone proved it was the back plate. Anyone have a link to a test that shows the prime navigating successfully without the back plate?
Just a quick question. Anyone else have an issue with their screen cracking? My P9000 has developed a crack over the led. I didn't drop, knock or bump the phone. I've emailed support for advice. I'll keep this forum posted.
Update got a very prompt response. Two sentences
"Good day!
we are sorry to hear that, but screen will not crack by itself. it may have some physical damage on it."
No details of how to get a repair, that's it! Not the best customer service. I've replied enquiring about service centres, costs etc. and will update the post when I get more info. There are a few posts asking for similar details re. Screen replacement so the info will be useful for the community.
actually it's strange to think that a screen can brake by itself , can you post some pictures?
elephone customer care have already proved it's lower quality service . i don't know where you live but best solution imho is to give the phone to a local cinese phone repair shoop , here in my city there are a couple that repair - fix phones for low money and they also provide spareparts that arrive very quick and at low price thanks to it's black market channel, try to search one
I agree it's very unusual that the screen would break in this way, but I'm really very careful with all my devices and this has never happened before.
If Elephone say that this cannot happen then I'm not going to quibble, I'm more interested in repairing the phone. Sending it back to the seller for repair will be an interesting, long and probably prohibitively expensive process, but I'll make enquiries.
In other news Elephone are still working on a new ROM for the device, I took the opportunity to ask supplementary questions in my email :laugh: so the chatter on the forums about the 19/04 build being the last one can abate for a while.
The crack in question. Doesn't impair functionality and there's are no signs of impact
The only replacement display I found on the Web is this one https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32673463140.html Unfortunately I have no clue if this is an original display and if could place it on my phone by myself
Your phones has physical damage along the bottom side of the metal frame can clearly see where its been scraped. You sure it didn't drop or get dragged along something while face down? Hopefully there's an OEM replacement as its just the glass that seems to be damaged not the LCD
Thanks I wouldn't know how to even begin the repair but it's useful info.
I had a similar small crack appear on mine which had not been dropped I assumed it had been knocked whilst in my pocket, But then today i put my phone in my pocket to drive and collect the kids when i got to the school i had 3 additional cracks I assume its something to do with the size of the screen and it not flexing.
The new cracks now make it pretty tough to use the phone as they are affecting the touch functions, once i can unlock it i will take some photos to post.
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I had a similar small crack appear on mine which had not been dropped I assumed it had been knocked whilst in my pocket, But then today i put my phone in my pocket to drive and collect the kids when i got to the school i had 3 additional cracks I assume its something to do with the size of the screen and it not flexing.
The new cracks now make it pretty tough to use the phone as they are affecting the touch functions, once i can unlock it i will take some photos to post.
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Thank you. I'd almost convinced myself that I must have knocked the phone.
Events have taken a new turn. The left hand side of the screen now creaks and pops when you press on it. If I press sufficiently hard enough it stops creaking and popping, almost as if it is correctly seated again only to literally and audibly pop out again 5 minutes later.
I will post a video later, and will be contacting elephone with evidence that there is a design flaw with the device. I'll keep this forum updated on my progress.
thats weird thats where my spontaneous crack started images attached, the bottom one is under the glass but i think was the cause of the left side one.
Adding images as attachments as well given the URLS don't seam to be showing correctly.
Mine also has a minor crack on the screen, it's in a case and has not been dropped. There is no damage to the frame at all, I'm guessing it's from being in my pocket. The phone obviously isn't as strong as mainstream manufacturers. My crack is very faint in the top right corner and you really have to look at it in a certain light to see it.
If it gets worse, I'll buy a new phone (One Plus 3) and not look at this device again
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Mine broke in my front pocket without impact. It was the aluminium frame that was bending and must have cracked under the stress. In hindsight I should have started putting the phone in my pocket the other way around. Ha ha!
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Mine broke in my front pocket without impact. It was the aluminium frame that was bending and must have cracked under the stress. In hindsight I should have started putting the phone in my pocket the other way around. Ha ha!
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I note the replacement screens have come down in price I may have to have a go at a repair.
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So my Z5C slid off the table and barely struck something not even that hard but apparently at exactly the wrong angle and now the screen is broken. There is a huge broken part on the top going all the way across (and a few more spider veins outside the used area) and the bottom half of the touchscreen just plain does not work. I contacted SONY to ask what it would cost to repair and, while the response was a bit confusing (English as a second language I guess) they basically stated that they would not do even a paid repair of a broken screen on a Z5C apparently. I was told to find a third party to repair it. I have exactly zero confidence in doing a repair myself (for starters, I guess this means the digitizer is broken since the bottom half of the screen does not work and I've always heard those are a PITA to replace but also whenever I replaced the back on my Z3C it would inevitably come loose again and the last thing in the world I want is for the screen to be falling off all the time.)
So basically I need to at least find out how much it would cost. Preferably I'd like to find a local place too so I can just bring it in when I get up the money to actually do it. But I have no idea how even to find them. And they couldn't tell me anything (no officially licensed repair shops or anything like that.) The fact is, I don't even know what to look for to find someone at least semi-reputable. And once again, the last thing in the world I want is for my screen to start falling off the way all those Z3C backs did.
Also, by any chance would anyone have even just a rough idea how much it would cost? Obviously if it ends up being more than the cost of buying a new Z5C on eBay it would make more sense to do that (whenever I can afford it anyway, but geez.)
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So my Z5C slid off the table and barely struck something not even that hard but apparently at exactly the wrong angle and now the screen is broken. There is a huge broken part on the top going all the way across (and a few more spider veins outside the used area) and the bottom half of the touchscreen just plain does not work. I contacted SONY to ask what it would cost to repair and, while the response was a bit confusing (English as a second language I guess) they basically stated that they would not do even a paid repair of a broken screen on a Z5C apparently. I was told to find a third party to repair it. I have exactly zero confidence in doing a repair myself (for starters, I guess this means the digitizer is broken since the bottom half of the screen does not work and I've always heard those are a PITA to replace but also whenever I replaced the back on my Z3C it would inevitably come loose again and the last thing in the world I want is for the screen to be falling off all the time.)
So basically I need to at least find out how much it would cost. Preferably I'd like to find a local place too so I can just bring it in when I get up the money to actually do it. But I have no idea how even to find them. And they couldn't tell me anything (no officially licensed repair shops or anything like that.) The fact is, I don't even know what to look for to find someone at least semi-reputable. And once again, the last thing in the world I want is for my screen to start falling off the way all those Z3C backs did.
Also, by any chance would anyone have even just a rough idea how much it would cost? Obviously if it ends up being more than the cost of buying a new Z5C on eBay it would make more sense to do that (whenever I can afford it anyway, but geez.)
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I bought a complete screen including the frame for 29 euros. You can do it using the tutorials on youtube. Its easy.
That literally was not my question.
Anyway, probably it would end up costing so much as to not be worth it. For now I'll probably have to count on just buying a new one whenever I can (well, that will be a while.)
BTW, in retrospect I suspect mine was actually a refurb after one such repair incorrectly sold as "new." The screen was kind of loose when I got it and never sat completely flat. Honestly I should have sent it straight back. Looking over it I suspect now that this is the reason it broke so thoroughly so easily from a very light drop off of a table (not even human height.) Because the screen wasn't sitting right that part was especially vulnerable and weaker and I notice that the line that went across went to the point where it was sticking up the most excessively. Ironically the screen now sits completely flat where it would not before after this break (which it shouldn't do if it were simply loose.) So this is part of the reason I'm not exactly super excited about the idea of repairs. I know from first-hand experience just simply trying to make a back stay on that the end result rarely can match the proper quality level and the screen is even more important. It has become a bit of a point of obsession for me probably because I've replaced the back so many times on my Z3C I've lost count and every single time it came loose again before eventually breaking. (At this point my Z3C back is a bunch of tape. I can't protect the camera because it needs something super clear sticking out a bit to allow it to move outward, so eventually it will probably get enough dust inside to break or something.)
Anyway, I have no desire to discuss trying to repair it myself. I was thinking maybe a professional can do better, but honestly the more I think about it the more I think I'd rather just save up and buy a new one. (I can get one for around $150 on eBay if I don't mind waiting a full month for shipping. My suspicion is that's actually not that much more than the repair cost if you add labor anyway.)
Not sure if I want this phone anymore.
https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1118574467255418880
https://twitter.com/backlon/status/1118573836226658304
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I was about to post this, i pre order and I'm wondering anyone cancelling there orders
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I was about to post this, i pre order and I'm wondering anyone cancelling there orders
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I just sold my note so I might go pick up a s10+ until I figure out if these issues are widespread
I have my s10 plus but now I'm debating whether to cancel pre order
Theres a good video from Mark munoz YouTube explaining this right now seems its only 2 devices malfunction others is trying to remove the plastic on top of the screen that's had been labeled not to be removed do i guess good news.
Here’s an important notice for current and future Galaxy Fold owners :angel:
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/04/1...portant-notice/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
SAMSUNG GALAXY FOLD ??????
Having watched an unhealthy amount of review videos, quite a few are mistreating them in my opinion. Slamming it shut really hard, tossing it down on to the desk, holding one side and trying to flip it open or closed. Not how you'd actually treat a device youd spent almost 2 grand of your own money on. And the one with the screen bulge that broke, they admitted to having used clay to hold it up for a photo shoot and that some could have got inside the hinge and caused the damage.
I'm not sure there's actually an issue here for anyone who looks after their devices. And if it turns out that the devices can't cope with real life, then get a refund. You either end up with a fantastic device that you really wanted, or you've gotten to play with one until it breaks and you get your money back. There's not really any downside apart from hassle of setting up a new phone again.
I literally watched a reviewer on YouTube put a pizza and hotdog in the Fold and pretended to eat the food from the device *smh
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I literally watched a reviewer on YouTube put a pizza and hotdog in the Fold and pretended to eat the food from the device *smh
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Yeah that really pissed me off ? for some reason. It's like they're showing off. It's not their money though.
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Yeah there attack articles are really unair whey all say in title galaxy folds are breaking No.... reviewers are breaking the devices a few idiots removed a very hard to remove screen protector that didn't come off easy at all one person got clay in the hinge another device looks like it was sat on and a display cable was likely broken
then at the very bottom, they actually say what happened there click bait caused Samsung Stock to drop sharply losing millions in value i would never send them another unit but im petty
https://mspoweruser.com/new-evidence-of-samsung-galaxy-fold-design-flaw-emerges/
Just like the Verge but without the failure. I don't think its build quality but rather it just happens in the real world.