Hi Members,
I am an idiot and as a result am looking for some input from you folks
The story goes like this:
My wife and I are sitting in our bathtub, browsing stuff on our mobile phones. I accidentally dunk the tip of my phone (Essential PH1) including phone case and the credit cards in the case a little bit in the water. So I remove the case and cards to dry and drop the phone in the water to have my hands free. Somehow, out of some idiocracy, I assumed that the phone is fully waterproof. Well, as you are probably aware, it is not. "Funny" enough, the phone kept working while I was in the tub. When I got out of the tub I went on to charge it (it gave feedback that it started charging) and went to bed.
Coming back the next day, the phone is completely dead, most likely due to water damage. The phone itself is not such a huge loss. I personally loved it, but paid ~$300 for it, so its not the end of the world. However, the complete first year of my son's life in picture and video was on that phone and I am devastated by the thought to have lost that. I am hesitant to use a recovery company because besides the pictures of my son there is also, ahem, pictures *cough* of my wife. For the same reason I had disabled backup to cloud....
Now, my naive thought process is that the internal storage of the phone should be some kind of chip and - in my naive mind - shouldn't it be somehow viable to get that thing and solder it to some sort of raspberri-pi-or-whatever-board to access the data if the storage chip survived? Is there people with experience on such issues and have helpful suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Max
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My 2yr old daughter dropped the mobile from a height of around 2 feet yesterday.
Initially everything seemed to work fine.I thanked the back case for saving it but After a few minutes,there was a strong pink spot near the top of the display, And then slowly it turned into blue and it spread towards the entire display. Now currenly mobile is completely black..
I can see that its turned on but i could not see anything.
So changing the display is the only way out?
I had a lot of phones before,right from N70 to 5800.All these phones took lot of abuse and still working fine. The hype about Gorilla glass made me assume that it would be much much stronger than any other phones i had used so far.But completely disappointed.
My brother recently replaced his SGS1's display after it fell from a 3ft table.Gorilla glass broke.I could not believe it.
Gorilla glass has nothing to do with anything. The display has obviously been damaged. You'll need to either return it to Samsung or have a go at replacing the screen yourself (plenty of how to's online).
rock18 said:
My 2yr old daughter dropped the mobile from a height of around 2 feet yesterday.
Initially everything seemed to work fine.I thanked the back case for saving it but After a few minutes,there was a strong pink spot near the top of the display, And then slowly it turned into blue and it spread towards the entire display. Now currenly mobile is completely black..
I can see that its turned on but i could not see anything.
So changing the display is the only way out?
I had a lot of phones before,right from N70 to 5800.All these phones took lot of abuse and still working fine. The hype about Gorilla glass made me assume that it would be much much stronger than any other phones i had used so far.But completely disappointed.
My brother recently replaced his SGS1's display after it fell from a 3ft table.Gorilla glass broke.I could not believe it.
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Gorilla glass is scratch-resistant. It's not scratch-proof, uncrackable or unbreakable.
Still surprises me that people are surprised that bad things can happen to a phone when you drop it.. If I dropped you horizontally from a height of 3 feet, you'd feel it - worse if it was head first
Easier said than done, but keep your little girl away from your S2. I gave my boy an old Nokia with stickers and glitter all over it - can't get him off it now
Damn, you got pretty unlucky and got one of those ****ty units, it happens more often than we can think.. :/
My first SGS2 didn't even last a night : when I got it and got home, I plugged it into the mains after having almost completely discharged the 40% or so that was left in the stock battery provided with it, turned off the display so it wouldn't take the whole night to charge (I wanted to toy around with it some more, what else ? ) and when I checked back on it I couldn't even touch it, it was so damn hot that it burned my fingertips and I had to drop it back down on the desk..
I quickly unplugged it, got my infrared thermometer, and in the 5-10 minutes it took me to find this thermometer it had gotten back down to a mere (!) 86°C (measure taken on the camera lens, that's the spot that gets the hottest usually. It has not taken me more than an hour after first unpacking it to notice how hot this unit can get at times, and soon noticed that the camera lens was the weak spot. Not hard to figure out that the CPU was very near to it, and the service manual confirmed that when I got ahold of it), so it had to be at least 100°C when I unplugged it.. :/
And of course when it had cooled back down enough I tried it, but it wouldn't power up, ever again... Luckily, Orange replaced it for free and under 24hrs -but it was some luck that it was completely and irreparably fried (at this time I didn't yet have a jig), because otherwise they'd have seen that I had already rooted it -in the few hours that I had it I had found the time to do this, at the office when I was bored...
The replacement unit I got instead never overheated that much (though it too can get pretty hot at times, but that's usually a sign of something going on inside the system, and tells me to check the logcat asap to see what's going on), even though it's a chinese-made unit like the first one, but in the 5 months I've owned it it got its fair share of unvoluntary drop-downs (on a hard tiling floor and usually from 2.5-3ft high, the height of my desk). So far it has survived at least a good 10 falls 'and it's probably closer to 15-20 actually) but it's holding fast, no trouble to mention (except those that I myself cause.. lol Can't count the times I've had to reflash a ROM anymore, just because I fiddled with the wrong setting in root mode And of course, Murphy's law helping, that always happens at 2-5AM when I'm fiddling with it before going to sleep, and I have to get downstairs again to get my jig and my flashing gear hooked to the computer and find a suitable stock ROM to start over, sometimes even having to repartition the whole damn contraption, and wasting away the precious few hours of sleep I could've had if I had given up earlier... But "****up and error" has always been my usual way of learning )...
Hi -- my wife's razr took a two-second swim in the toilet. We dried it, blow-dried it on a medium setting, then plopped in it a bag of rice for two days. It appears to now be functioning fine, except that it doesn't seem to be charging, even though the phone indicates that it is charging. The level stays stuck on twenty. It's discharged down to 15, then charged back up to 20, but no further. It doesn't seem like a hardware problem to me, it seems like a faulty battery read, though I of course could be mistaken. The USB connection works fine -- I've transferred all the files off the sd card. Any thoughts? Would a factory reset perhaps reset the battery stats (the phone is unrooted)? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Don't know exactly, but isn't a factory reset just the wipe of all installed data and the return to delivery state? So a "damaged" battery wouldn't be "repared" ?
But have you just tried another battery watching app? maybe this will show the true battery life? than you could be serious that it's maybe just the system app and do a factory reset / reinstall the system battery watching apk?
I've already done the factory reset and will charge overnight and see what happens. I will install a third party app though, great idea, thanks...
just let us know the result
want to know how water proof my razr is
You could try one of the battery calibration apps on the market. They simply delete the .bin file that stores battery information.
Although, I think your battery may have shorted out potentially.
Much easier solution, works on iphones every time.
(iPhones are water damaged 100% of the time when we get them for repairs, whether they've been in water or not)
Get electronics cleaner with oil, spray a small amount in the usb port and stick the usb plug in and out a few times.
Now try charging and see if it works again.
I will try this as it still isn't working. Thanks...
Shadowdancer -- are you saying this works in this situation, where the phone says it's charging but in reality it's only charging at a super minuscule rate?
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Shadowdancer -- are you saying this works in this situation, where the phone says it's charging but in reality it's only charging at a super minuscule rate?
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Yup, virtually anything can be solved with electrical cleaner and a hard reboot on the iphones.
It solves problems with emergency charging mode that stays for 24 hours.
It solves the "This device is not supported" when trying to charge.
Also solves problems flashing the iphones with new firmware.
I also fixed one or two other brand of phones with this, but micro usb is a lot less sensitive to bad connections.
The oil also protects from wear, as the oxidation has removed the protective coating. Which is what causes the charging problems.
If that won't work though, I'd say pop the lid and clean it carefully. You won't get any warranty things through unfortunately.
Tried the electrical cleaner, it didn't seem to help matters. I called a Motorola repair facility, and they'll replace the battery for $85. I suppose it's worth a shot, though if it's not charging (even though it's still indicating that it is), I guess it could be for other reasons than a bad battery.
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Tried the electrical cleaner, it didn't seem to help matters. I called a Motorola repair facility, and they'll replace the battery for $85. I suppose it's worth a shot, though if it's not charging (even though it's still indicating that it is), I guess it could be for other reasons than a bad battery.
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Well that sucks, but I guess it might work if you don't want to tear the back off yourself.
That assumes the battery to be the only thing not treated with whatever water repellent they used.
Just tried to get the phone repaired, the circuit on the board that charges the phone is corroded. Not surprised, but if anyone out there considers their phone "waterproof," well, I wouldn't.
normally you should put your phone in a pot, put some rice on it. Cook it at low temp with no oil for exactly 1:50min. Your phone will sustain no water damage.
I won't get into detail why you put rice on it, some people use salt but I wouldn't risk it for a chocolate biscuit.
PS : only use these methods when slam dunking your phone into pond/ river/bath tub/when attempting to flush your phone down the toilet wanting to get an insurance pay out/ dropping your phone in an aquarium.
i actually had this happen to me VERY early this morning. I was having problems with it rebooting it self quite often. I shook it to get the water out. About an hour later it started to operate normally.
I just was reading that you can take the back cover off (voids the warrenty but Im rooted so... ) so I did that to run a fhair dryeer on it at cool/warm to remove excess water. There was no water in the unit. even the little strip that the have with the xxx on it to test if it has been droped in water was untouched.
Love this phone!!!!!
I have read great things about the Bheestie Bag. I have no idea what the name is about, but I read an online article about them that was very favorable.
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I have read great things about the Bheestie Bag. I have no idea what the name is about, but I read an online article about them that was very favorable.
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It's a bag full of silicate balls, pretty much the stuff you get in those tiny white packets with harddrives, clothes and shoes etc.
You can get big bags of this at virtually any allround store, moisture out, "damprid" and all kinds of brands. It's a strongly moisture absorbent powder.
Btw, I could be called insane, but I usually treat my phone with "clear vue" and a color less shoe shine pad- (It contains silicone oil and some more moisture repellant.
I do this once a week.
ed: btw, you can get these blue silicate balls with ultra absorbent cat litter, 20$ buys you 10+ litres.
Yes, and they are reusable until the blue beads turn grey. They are supposed to be 700% more effective than rice. I've never needed it but bought one just in case after reading the Amazon reviews.
MattyOnXperiaX10 said:
normally you should put your phone in a pot, put some rice on it. Cook it at low temp with no oil for exactly 1:50min. Your phone will sustain no water damage.
I won't get into detail why you put rice on it, some people use salt but I wouldn't risk it for a chocolate biscuit.
PS : only use these methods when slam dunking your phone into pond/ river/bath tub/when attempting to flush your phone down the toilet wanting to get an insurance pay out/ dropping your phone in an aquarium.
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I have heard of putting your phone in the oven on the lowest setting possible. Do you think that is something that would work?
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I have heard of putting your phone in the oven on the lowest setting possible. Do you think that is something that would work?
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If you have a thermometer that you can put inside first, make damn sure it doesn't go over 60 c (140 f)
If it's digital then you can see how much it goes up and down, if it even sniffs at around 70 then you can't use your oven.
If you decide to do it, put it on a piece of cardboard paper at 50 degrees C
for 15 minutes or so.
Thanks for telling me that. I thought the person who told me that was crazy. And no it was nobody from this forum. ;-)
Back Story: I have a rooted, unlocked M8. An a**hole coworker of mine threw me in a pool while it was in my pocket last night. Got it out and put into rice immediately.
Now phone would turn on and seemed to want to work aside from just being slow to certain touches but other than that it was ok. I started to notice that it was acting up and crashing so i though it might be some sort of software issue. go into recovery and wipe everything to install a new rom but after install using Philz, it just right back to the old rom. No data is missing and the system is not changed. I even tried to restore an old back up but nothing sticks. I get no errors when wiping or installing so I am at a loss right now.
Any new ideas?
That guy owes you a new phone, period. If he is going to do something so stupid, he needs to learn the lesson that there are consequences.
When my wife dunked her iPhone in the toilet, the Genius Bar employee told her that the phone might be fine, or some things might be broken, or that it might seem fine for a while, then just suddenly stop working. Its like a time bomb, you never know if your phone is going to just stop working now. So the guy should replace the phone.
The M8 is water resistant to some degree (but I don't know about total immersion). I'd dry it for a lot more than overnight. If any water go inside the phone, I don't think drying overnight is sufficient. And any remaining water is a possible point of short circuit or corrosion. Power off and dry it for a day or 2 more.
It happened... to ME!
I've been seeing these threads and MEANING to prepare - but never did and then it happened. Don't make my mistake, do your research now and be ready for the inevitable. Backup everything now and if you already backup, check to be sure that all your connections are still in place. I want to share as much info as I can at this point to hopefully help someone out of a pickle down the line.
First, the answer is yes, my phone bootlooped about 1 week out of warranty - this is systematic and too common to be a coincidence. Not happy with LG/Verizon, someone is responsible for this. Luckily, you have options.
Option 1:
You can go directly to LG and I've heard that they have extended the warranty for this issue. I entered my IMEI and sure enough the site confirmed that I was eligible for repair. Quoted 1-2 weeks but I did not go that route. If you'd like to though, here is the site - https://www.lgmobilerepair.com/request_repair
Option 2:
The extreme temperature "fixes" kind of maybe might work for you. If you didn't prepare and you're panicking, there might be a little hope. First thing you'll hear is freezer. Place your phone in a ziploc bag and then in the freezer for 15 to 30 minutes. Keep in mind that when you remove it, as it thaws out the condensation builds and you're phone will feel wet - felt very risky and didn't do a thing for me. Next thing you'll hear is extreme heat and you'll see some overkill that involves removing your motherboard after removing layers and layers and layers of phone parts. You'll then either place it in a low oven or place an iron on the parts. Those options both felt ridiculous to me, so I used my wife's hairdryer and guess what IT WORKED EVENTUALLY KIND OF FOR AWHILE! First step was to remove battery, then I started to heat the processor by heating the outside of the phone (that's right, didn't remove anything). The chips are in the top half of the phone so I took off the battery cover and removed the sim/SD cards and then let 'er rip on high speed and high heat. I moved the hair dryer around constantly and tried to approach from all sides. When the back was very hot to the touch I popped in the battery and powered the phone on. The bootlooping continued and then I flipped the phone over and aimed the dryer at the screen. Again, focus on the top half and either side of the phone as it continues to bootloop. If you're lucky as I was, you'll see the Verizon logo and the phone will start up. Now the balancing act begins, as far as I could tell the phone needs to be very hot but not TOO hot. That means you put the dryer down for about 5 minutes and then pick it up and heat for another 5 and ride the wave. All in all I was able to get solid stretches as long as 20 minutes to interact with the phone and backup. You can search Youtube for videos if you need proof - it can work.
Option 3:
Verizon. As I mentioned I was about a week out of warranty. I called though and jumped through the hoops of tech support and a warranty replacement was approved. I was told that as long as it's within 30 days of warranty, they'll usually be flexible. Remember though, if you go the Verizon route - they can charge you a $299 fee if you have any physical damage or modified software (so unroot if you need now and tidy up the outside/replace cracked screen/etc.
This whole experience SUCKED. I'm going to bed. Good luck friends.
I hope the replacement lasts long enough to see unlocked bootloader!!!!!!!!
I also just got into a boot loop a couple days ago. I feel your pain as I didn't backup anything.
Lowhari said:
I also just got into a boot loop a couple days ago. I feel your pain as I didn't backup anything.
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Were you able to find a solution?
I've taken my LG V10 apart 3 or 4 times and baked it in the oven. Each time I raise the heat a little bit more. The latest round got me over 14 hours of use out of it. Additional things I did to try and lengthen the life of the phone included adding a dab of thermal paste to several of the larger chips (some guides on youtube for other LG phones offer this as a way to keep the phone from feeling so hot.)
Interestingly, when I took it apart again, I noticed that none of the thermal paste had pressed onto the corresponding heat shields or thermal pads. I can't help but think this is a bit of a design flaw. The major processor, the snapdragon, has what looks like a thermal pad that is supposed to press up against it, but it clearly does not connect, meaning all these chips that run hot sit in their own little ez bake oven, and the heat you feel when using the phone is nowhere near as intense as the heat being generated by the chips inside.
I understand that when a phone feels hot, it can be disconcerting, but if LG sacrificed the ability for this hardware to adequately disperse heat for the sake of a few degrees in the hand, that's a massive design flaw.
I got a replacement V10 from Verizon via chat by complaining about the Maps app not working, extreme battery discharge, and the phone getting really hot. All of which were very true. I had rebooted, cleared the cache, everything and the Maps app would just not work. It would show me being about half a mile from where I actually was. There was something legitimately wrong with the phone. I started off the chat by saying, "I'm having some problems with my V10 and heard the warranty has been extended due to bootloop issues as evidenced by the recent class action lawsuit file in California." The chat rep took about 5 minutes to research the extended warranty and I got my replacement phone the next day (I live about 5 miles from Vz's warehouse). I didn't wait for a bootloop. My wife's V10 bootlooped back in August 2016 one day. I had to put it in the freezer to get the data off as I didn't have it properly setup to backup texts and photos.
I use the Verizon Cloud app to backup text messages and OneDrive to backup photos. I like the OneDrive app to backup photos because that makes them easily accessible from a computer. And as much as possible on the SD card including the Camera storage location.
You can also run an LG Backup and save it to an SD card. I did that when I got the replacement phone. The LG Backup routine completely jacked up the text messages though. The backup takes a while. Most of the apps restored ok.
Mine finally died Thursday night during a file transfer from internal storage to my SD card. Got the phone sometime in November 2015. Plan is under my wife's name so she called and got no where with getting a replacement phone and ended up hanging up the phone.
I called about 10 minutes later, told tech support the phone would boot loop during a battery pull, attempting to enter safe mode and lastly trying to do a factory reset from system recovery. Tech basically said since I tried everything they'd just send me a new V10. Should be here Monday. Phone call took maybe 2 minutes tops.
... was actually surprised how easy it was.
EDIT: Might have had something to do with the fact that the lawsuit had dropped the same day I called, or near to it.
Man I gotta say I'm super bummed out. My battery recently crapped out on me, so I replaced it on my own because I just hit outside my two year warranty.
Well yesterday my phone shutoff randomly and is now bootlooping over and over, and nothing has resolved the issue (flashing factory software etc). So I now have a completely useless Nexus 6p that is in perfect physical condition with a crapped out set of cores that wont allow the phone to boot. I know there's the custom kernel that allows the phone to run off the power efficient cores and I certainly recognize the time spent and the skill required to create something like that. I'm just salty that my expensive phone is now a paper weight.
I made the mistake of buying this direct from Huawei an not from google (it was a better deal at the time and now I see why) and they all but laughed at me when I asked for assistance in replacement for the battery issue, and I didnt even bother asking them about a replacement now that the phone is completely dead.
I talked to google just for laughs and they told me what I knew I would hear, that I didnt buy it from them so I was screwed. I guess long story short is that out of all the devices I've owned this has probably been one of the best while it worked and the worst I've ever experienced when things went wrong. Right at the two year mark it self destructs? I still have my original htc evo that works! lol
/EndRant :silly:
If you want to donate it for parts, I need a new metal housing and LCD for mine.
Mine is still running on all 8 cores and battery replacement was done in August of last year and is still running fine.