I rooted my vibrant to use it on AT&T, but i i want to go back to stock, so i was wondering would it lock again since i used the unlocking app from the playstore to unlock it and that needed root! and if it will relock, is there any way to prevent it from locking again when i unroot it? thank you
I don't think so. I have unlocked my phone almost 2 years ago, and it never got locked again. I went through countless number of ROMs, also ODIN to stock many times (the stock firmware doesn't have root by default). It always stayed unlocked.
Yes romitkin is correct, you will lose root when you Odin but you will not lose sim unlock. Once its unlocked it will remain that way unless/until you lock it.
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Hey guys,
I have a question regarding locking the bootloader, but I'm not sure if it's entirebly possible.
TL;DR: Can I keep root access on the phone if I re-lock my bootloader?
Context:
When I unlock the bootloader, I am able flash custom roms and grant root access to APKs.
To do this, I must first go to "developer settings" and "allow OEM unlocking". Then I will be able to unlock the bootloader.
This allows me to install Cerberus, an anti-theft apk, as a system app.
However, in case the phone gets stolen, If I leave the bootloader unlocked, I am allowing anyone to flash over my phone, thus wiping Cerberus with it.
To prevent someone from tampering with it, I must "allow OEM unlocking" in the developer settings, which can only be toggled when the bootloader is locked.
Basically, I want to be able to unlock my bootloader, root my phone, install Cerberus, and re-lock my bootloader to prevent further tampering, while retaining root access to the phone. Is this possible?
Is this possible?
Don't know if I was confusing in my explanation, but I hope not.
SmoothMarx said:
Hey guys,
I have a question regarding locking the bootloader, but I'm not sure if it's entirebly possible.
TL;DR: Can I keep root access on the phone if I re-lock my bootloader?
Context:
When I unlock the bootloader, I am able flash custom roms and grant root access to APKs.
To do this, I must first go to "developer settings" and "allow OEM unlocking". Then I will be able to unlock the bootloader.
This allows me to install Cerberus, an anti-theft apk, as a system app.
However, in case the phone gets stolen, If I leave the bootloader unlocked, I am allowing anyone to flash over my phone, thus wiping Cerberus with it.
To prevent someone from tampering with it, I must "allow OEM unlocking" in the developer settings, which can only be toggled when the bootloader is locked.
Basically, I want to be able to unlock my bootloader, root my phone, install Cerberus, and re-lock my bootloader to prevent further tampering, while retaining root access to the phone. Is this possible?
Is this possible?
Don't know if I was confusing in my explanation, but I hope not.
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I'm guessing the same question, will be impossible to steal a phone with Cerberus and locked bootloader.
If Cerberus is a system app it doesn't even need the root to work, isn't it?
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SmoothMarx said:
Hey guys,
I have a question regarding locking the bootloader, but I'm not sure if it's entirebly possible.
TL;DR: Can I keep root access on the phone if I re-lock my bootloader?
Context:
When I unlock the bootloader, I am able flash custom roms and grant root access to APKs.
To do this, I must first go to "developer settings" and "allow OEM unlocking". Then I will be able to unlock the bootloader.
This allows me to install Cerberus, an anti-theft apk, as a system app.
However, in case the phone gets stolen, If I leave the bootloader unlocked, I am allowing anyone to flash over my phone, thus wiping Cerberus with it.
To prevent someone from tampering with it, I must "allow OEM unlocking" in the developer settings, which can only be toggled when the bootloader is locked.
Basically, I want to be able to unlock my bootloader, root my phone, install Cerberus, and re-lock my bootloader to prevent further tampering, while retaining root access to the phone. Is this possible?
Is this possible?
Don't know if I was confusing in my explanation, but I hope not.
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Which phone are you using?
In many phones, bootloader can be locked after rooting, without losing root.
Are you sure locking bootloader will prevent someone who steal phone from unlocking bootloader again? I don't think so.
On the latest t mobile software, dev mode enabled, but I dont see "OEM UNLOCK" anywhere...does anyone have that option on their note 8?
thanks
wase4711 said:
On the latest t mobile software, dev mode enabled, but I dont see "OEM UNLOCK" anywhere...does anyone have that option on their note 8?
thanks
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I think you use that TMO device unlock app.
I thought that was just for carrier unlock, NOT OEM unlock...have you used that app?
thanks
wase4711 said:
I thought that was just for carrier unlock, NOT OEM unlock...have you used that app?
thanks
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No, I disabled it. Been with TMO too long, I'm not going anywhere and neither are they. Thanks for teaching me the difference, lol! This bootloader is locked.
there are a few different "locks" to deal with on this phone; the bootloader, which is currently locked, carrier lock, meaning you are locked to tmobile, and the OEM unlock, which allows you to flash roms, both stock and custom, assuming you have an unlocked boot-loader
On most other phones, in the developer options, there is a OEM Unlock entry you activate if you plan on flashing anything...
wase4711 said:
there are a few different "locks" to deal with on this phone; the bootloader, which is currently locked, carrier lock, meaning you are locked to tmobile, and the OEM unlock, which allows you to flash roms, both stock and custom, assuming you have an unlocked boot-loader
On most other phones, in the developer options, there is a OEM Unlock entry you activate if you plan on flashing anything...
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The OEM Unlock option doesn't appear until 7 days after the device was first booted on the Exynos version. That might not be the case with your version because the bootloader is locked so the OEM Unlock toggle is redundant.
Have a read through this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/info-note-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140
I've had many phones with locked bootloaders in the past where the OEM unlock appeared in the dev options, so unless this is something new with the note 8. im not sure why its not there..
wase4711 said:
I've had many phones with locked bootloaders in the past where the OEM unlock appeared in the dev options, so unless this is something new with the note 8. im not sure why its not there..
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All the OEM unlock toggle does is allow you to flash a custom recovery so you can then flash custom ROMs only if the the bootloader is unlocked. If the bootloader is locked like on US snapdragon N8s having the toggle is pointless.
If you check out the thread linked above you'll see that a bunch of people with exynos versions that do have unlocked boot loaders are missing the toggle which later appears & disappears. No one knows why yet, all just speculation.
The N8 is the first to have this happen. What a big headache. Hopefully they figure it out. I'm one of the lucky with an exynos N8 without that issue.
yeah, its not a big deal, especially since there is no way to unlock this bootloader at this point anyways...weird that it comes on and off on the Exynos though..
Torquemada288 said:
The OEM Unlock option doesn't appear until 7 days after the device was first booted on the Exynos version. That might not be the case with your version because the bootloader is locked so the OEM Unlock toggle is redundant.
Have a read through this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/info-note-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140
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Correct, for our t mobile USA ones, we will never get that OEM Unlock option in any amount of days.
Well if we can. Get root we can oem toggle
smiley45 said:
Well if we can. Get root we can oem toggle
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We already have a root, it just wasn't released yet and it seems to be the same as S8, so with similar disadvantages. Expect to be out any day now.
smiley45 said:
Well if we can. Get root we can oem toggle
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Even if you get the OEM unlock toggle to appear it doesn't mean anything. If you have a locked bootloader the OEM unlock won't unlock it. OEM unlock is just a safety switch.
shouren04 said:
Even if you get the OEM unlock toggle to appear it doesn't mean anything. If you have a locked bootloader the OEM unlock won't unlock it. OEM unlock is just a safety switch.
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Yes that maybe so.. but I will feel better when I add that option to my note 8... I'm just waiting on root and it on form there
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Oem needs to be unlocked before u can us cf autoroot or any other means of root I have j7 metro no oem unlock option tried to use Odin and cf auto root it failed because the bootloader is locked and can't be unlocked. I know this is for the n8 but I seem to be suffering from the same problem.
Lost without root
XxdeadhatexX said:
Oem needs to be unlocked before u can us cf autoroot or any other means of root I have j7 metro no oem unlock option tried to use Odin and cf auto root it failed because the bootloader is locked and can't be unlocked. I know this is for the n8 but I seem to be suffering from the same problem.
Lost without root
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Does having an engineering bootloader help?
How do I test if the bootloader is unlocked?
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reukiodo said:
Does having an engineering bootloader help?
How do I test if the bootloader is unlocked?
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Its not plain and simple.
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
so i cant root or put twrp on my j727U ? SEEN PEOPLE DO IT WITH J727p so why not the U ? no oem toggle on a galaxy how is this, should all come together and never buy phones from a company that goes against what customers want.
so i cant root or put twrp recovery on my galaxy j727U ? ? how has a phone tech not beat this by now even without oem toggle , it should still be beat by now.. this is why i liked htc cause they unlock bootloader for you and allow it on there own page, anyone wanna trade a htc for a new galaxy j7 ?
lol i think this thread needs to be closed
Yes there is an OEM unlock option. I know because I discovered It! Simply flash the K2 combination file, when factory binary loads go into the left hand screen, with apps. Click on the settings icon, then enable dev options the usual way. OEM unlock should be there. You may need to toggle it off and on a few times before you get the popup security message.
It makes a change in the system as it should. If you do a factory reset, then reload the factory binary, you'll see that Dev Options are already enabled (saved from last time you unlocked) AND OEM will already be toggled. This means that the unlock sticks!
So there you go. It even changes the OEM line in the .prop.... that being said...
DO NOT TRY TO FLASH TWRP AFTER DOING THIS!!!
(I already tried, the secure boot still is in effect, and you'll have a softbrick until you can re Odin your recovery. )
The OEM unlock may be one part of this, but there's more. Hopefully we are making progress toward the goal of a bootloader unlock!
When I went into fastboot mode it says its unlocked.
(I don't remember unlocking it, but I might have and just forgotten)
I still can't flash TWRP because it'll give me FAILED: remote command not allowed.
The internet says that it may be because of FRP still being locked??
So I have to restore it back to factory settings.
I'm afraid it'll relock my bootloader too.
Since the phone is already unlocked, is it possible to retrieve the unlock code?
PS. Phone is still in stock condition. I don't have root, nor a custom recovery.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but what do you mean by FRP?
Hi,
Does anyone know how to relock the bootloader after I unlocked it and had a custom rom on it?
I want to use services like Google Pay without Magisk and it dosnt work with the bootloader unlocked.
I tried to switch the "OEM unlock" option in Developer option back off, but it looks like it is off, although below the switch it says: Bootloader alredy unlocked.
If i switch it, it'll just go trought the unlocking process as if the BL wasnt locked (Factory reset and BL still unlocked)
Im using the SM-G965F DualSIM bought in Germany (CSC is DBT) on CSG8 Firmware.
I unlocked the BL on CSE3 Firmware.
dzik_ said:
Hi,
Does anyone know how to relock the bootloader after I unlocked it and had a custom rom on it?
I want to use services like Google Pay without Magisk and it dosnt work with the bootloader unlocked.
I tried to switch the "OEM unlock" option in Developer option back off, but it looks like it is off, although below the switch it says: Bootloader alredy unlocked.
If i switch it, it'll just go trought the unlocking process as if the BL wasnt locked (Factory reset and BL still unlocked)
Im using the SM-G965F DualSIM bought in Germany (CSC is DBT) on CSG8 Firmware.
I unlocked the BL on CSE3 Firmware.
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If you flashed custom recovery and afterwards custom ROM, KNOX is tripped so bootloader (OEM) is permanently unlocked. There is no way to bypass that.
A One-Way Street..
dzik_ said:
Hi,
Does anyone know how to relock the bootloader after I unlocked it and had a custom rom on it?
I want to use services like Google Pay without Magisk
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melendi said:
If you flashed custom recovery and afterwards custom ROM, KNOX is tripped so bootloader (OEM) is permanently unlocked. There is no way to bypass that.
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There Is No Turning Back....
Let This Be A Lesson To Anyone That Reads This Thread:
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But Why Would You Use Google Pay When Your Phone Is No Longer Secure??? and leave yourself Vulnerable to having your info violated?
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