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please someone explain to me why the pictures taken by the camera are so bad knowing its still an 8mp camera, my iPhone shoots better pictures than z ultra even my galaxy s2 pictures are better. It is the processing done by sony to pictures taken by camera, if yes if it is disabled will then the pictures be better , please someone explain
Over processing. It's a software issue.
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Over processing. It's a software issue.
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since its software how can that be fixed or replaced with another software
hykhleif said:
since its software how can that be fixed or replaced with another software
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How can it be fixed? By not raping our photos after we've taken them. It's an idiotic decision by Sony.
I've read that Camera Zoom on the Play Store gives better results, but you still won't get good photos unless there's a good light source. Sony needs to push out an update that corrects the over processing, but god knows if and when that will happen. In the meantime, check out the Play Store and play around with different camera apps.
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How can it be fixed? By not raping our photos after we've taken them. It's an idiotic decision by Sony.
I've read that Camera Zoom on the Play Store gives better results, but you still won't get good photos unless there's a good light source. Sony needs to push out an update that corrects the over processing, but god knows if and when that will happen. In the meantime, check out the Play Store and play around with different camera apps.
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thats even awful to know that its a software bug, how come sony did not see that huge problem?????
hykhleif said:
thats even awful to know that its a software bug, how come sony did not see that huge problem?????
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They were probably trying to push it out on the market as quickly as possible, which we also saw in other areas of the software (SODs, screen issues, phantom clicks etc.)
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They were probably trying to push it out on the market as quickly as possible, which we also saw in other areas of the software (SODs, screen issues, phantom clicks etc.)
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i dont know about sony how they handle problem through updates but is sony good in that area, as I came from samsung devices???
hykhleif said:
i dont know about sony how they handle problem through updates but is sony good in that area, as I came from samsung devices???
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They seem to be I got my phone last week and already got 3 or 4 updates.
hykhleif said:
i dont know about sony how they handle problem through updates but is sony good in that area, as I came from samsung devices???
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we've had three updates in three months. Seem to be way better than Samsung.
The camera is horrible until you start manually controlling ISO. Even in lower light I keep it at 400 or 800, anything over that will just look like **** but you'll be surprised with the quality of the pictures you can take when you set the ISO to 200 or 400
I think it's not just software that's the problem with the Ultra. I think Sony intentionally used a very cheap sensor that is marketed as 8MP but is actually just comparable to VGA. Gives me the reason to save up for the X-E2.
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You should try Lenovo super camera.( Google the apk) It really improves the image quality. But i agree. It looks like 2MP on stock camera.
keithleyson said:
I think it's not just software that's the problem with the Ultra. I think Sony intentionally used a very cheap sensor that is marketed as 8MP but is actually just comparable to VGA. Gives me the reason to save up for the X-E2.
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Agreed. SONY is so cheap.
They simply don't want to make a perfect device.
IMO, the camera takes ok pictures for social media use, if I need something to hang in my living room, I'll use my dslr or rx100
if you try to take pic with Ultra Z in the house the pic is so bad i don't want even look at it, it contains alot of grain, but outside the house the pic is ok. i got also Xperia arc, the photo taken by arc is much better than Ultra Z.
Poor i did not know this before buying the thing
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if you try to take pic with Ultra Z in the house the pic is so bad i don't want even look at it, it contains alot of grain, but outside the house the pic is ok. i got also Xperia arc, the photo taken by arc is much better than Ultra Z.
Poor i did not know this before buying the thing
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I agree I will now likely be returning the device.
My 4-5 year old Sony Xperia X1 with a 3.2 MP camera takes better photos then this phone.
Basically the ZU camera is not usable for anything but taking a photo of a sign / piece of paper to remember / remind you of some notes.
Forget about taking a photo of your friends, or anything really.
Its quite depressing, i love everything about the phone and really want to keep it, but the quality is so bad that the word bad, is a grave overstatement and makes it sound good.
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I agree I will now likely be returning the device.
My 4-5 year old Sony Xperia X1 with a 3.2 MP camera takes better photos then this phone.
Basically the ZU camera is not usable for anything but taking a photo of a sign / piece of paper to remember / remind you of some notes.
Forget about taking a photo of your friends, or anything really.
Its quite depressing, i love everything about the phone and really want to keep it, but the quality is so bad that the word bad, is a grave overstatement and makes it sound good.
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Totally agree, i can't put it in better words. I can't imagine that sony uses this kind of quality in this high end phone. That really isn't logically, I assume it's a software thing.
The real reason come from the thickness...
A normal sensor is very thick! Close the Z Ultra. How you want to do like this.
Software will probably help, but don't dream: Z Ultra and his sensor is to thin.
Have you tried a different camera app like FV-5? I hope the pictures can be fixed with an app because I went in to the store to test out the device and the photos were really terrible!
After reading all the review and my device photo result, i think i know the culprit. It is related to the no flash condition on the Ultra, thus to be able to reach higher light into the sensor, they purposefully increase the ISO level to the extreme. Thus the grainy photo. Once you reduce the ISO into the low 100-400 with manual mode, the quality increased tremendously.
But how to counter attack the reduced light? well, none that i know of with stock camera, but the Camera FV5 with modified shutter speed seems like the best solution. For me, even though the stock experience is bad, when tweaked, it's very adequate for an 8mp
Hi to all,
We all love V30. We all wait LG V30 and real photo/video comparison. V30 is the phone with all good things. And the main thing what are we waiting for is camera.
So I search to see witch camera did V30 have and it is Sony IMX351, with 1,6 aperture, with 1pixel size. This means that small pixel is not so good for low lightcand for the details. V30 will catch photos without noise because 1.6 aperture but not so much light in the dark because 1 pixel size. And this camera sensor Huawei P10 use it for front camera. This make me a big disappointed. Why they use a average camera? The competition (Samsung, Google, Appel) use camera with big pixels.
Last night I watch google pixel 2 and how DXOMark write the best phone camera on the market.
Samsung and Appel have very good camera.
Where here is V30? In the middle? Or near like them?
So what you think? Is this camera sensor very bad or not? Is Possible to V30 with software make very good camera?
P. S. And OIS is veey bad on V30, every video is shake so much. Is possible with updates to make OIS+EIS for better stabilization?
isko01 said:
Hi to all,
We all love V30. We all wait LG V30 and real photo/video comparison. V30 is the phone with all good things. And the main thing what are we waiting for is camera.
So I search to see witch camera did V30 have and it is Sony IMX351, with 1,6 aperture, with 1pixel size. This means that small pixel is not so good for low lightcand for the details. V30 will catch photos without noise because 1.6 aperture but not so much light in the dark because 1 pixel size. And this camera sensor Huawei P10 use it for front camera. This make me a big disappointed. Why they use a average camera? The competition (Samsung, Google, Appel) use camera with big pixels.
Last night I watch google pixel 2 and how DXOMark write the best phone camera on the market.
Samsung and Appel have very good camera.
Where here is V30? In the middle? Or near like them?
So what you think? Is this camera sensor very bad or not? Is Possible to V30 with software make very good camera?
P. S. And OIS is veey bad on V30, every video is shake so much. Is possible with updates to make OIS+EIS for better stabilization?
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I think this will answer your question, v30 is as good as xl
https://youtu.be/OCqBHavIuAY
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I think this will answer your question, v30 is as good as xl
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Thx a lot for your answer but is this user credible? How did he get Pixel and V30? :/ is this true?
isko01 said:
Thx a lot for your answer but is this user credible? How did he get Pixel and V30? :/ is this true?
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His channel is very popular, I don't think he would lie about the devices he compares. After the presentation of the pixel xl, testers could take the phones for a test ride outside. Also same way lg gave test units to some youtubers, that's how he can have both. So you can believe the credibility of this video although unfortunately front-facing camera is a disappointment an there's not much lg can do about that
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I'll know soon enough. I ended up pre-ordering one from my carrier a few minutes ago. Says it'll ship anywhere between today and Monday. (Not that I trust that estimate but fingers crossed that it is true.) If it ships today and I have it in hand by the weekend, I have a standard set of tests I can run on it. Otherwise, hopefully it is still here so I can use it at a concert on Wednesday. I'm keeping my V20 so I'll be able to side by side with that.
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I'll know soon enough. I ended up pre-ordering one from my carrier a few minutes ago. Says it'll ship anywhere between today and Monday. (Not that I trust that estimate but fingers crossed that it is true.) If it ships today and I have it in hand by the weekend, I have a standard set of tests I can run on it. Otherwise, hopefully it is still here so I can use it at a concert on Wednesday. I'm keeping my V20 so I'll be able to side by side with that.
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Hi I would be very interested in the results of your tests and especially the quality you get at the live concert! Please share if you have the time ☺ also a comparison of the audio recording capabilities of the V30 vs those of the v20! They should be quite similar in quality
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Hi I would be very interested in the results of your tests and especially the quality you get at the live concert! Please share if you have the time also a comparison of the audio recording capabilities of the V30 vs those of the v20! They should be quite similar in quality
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We will see! I also frequent a dark jazz club a lot here in KC. So I have plenty of opportunities to test audio and video in the absolute worst conditions. I can tell you that the V20 mics using just the HD Audio app that it came up with picks up things pretty clearly. Unfortunately, it also picks up the other people in the club talking too. That's not a knock against the phone though. I'll be interested in seeing how the directional mics compare while recording video. Although, I still need to figure out those sliders.
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I'll know soon enough. I ended up pre-ordering one from my carrier a few minutes ago. Says it'll ship anywhere between today and Monday. (Not that I trust that estimate but fingers crossed that it is true.) If it ships today and I have it in hand by the weekend, I have a standard set of tests I can run on it. Otherwise, hopefully it is still here so I can use it at a concert on Wednesday. I'm keeping my V20 so I'll be able to side by side with that.
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Thx a lot my friend I hope you will enjoy I will your new phone. The V30 is the phone what all we want it is just All In One phone, but just we need really camera comparison. And I hope that they will release full good update for camera.
P. S. Yes, someone will tell if you want good camera buy DSLR, that's true but if I want to buy flagship phone I want with good camera.
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We will see! I also frequent a dark jazz club a lot here in KC. So I have plenty of opportunities to test audio and video in the absolute worst conditions. I can tell you that the V20 mics using just the HD Audio app that it came up with picks up things pretty clearly. Unfortunately, it also picks up the other people in the club talking too. That's not a knock against the phone though. I'll be interested in seeing how the directional mics compare while recording video. Although, I still need to figure out those sliders.
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Looking forward very much to these tests! Thank you so much! I heard a rumour that the V30 mikes cannot be directed like the v20 could but it could be nonsense there are two mikes instead of the three in the v20
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Thx a lot my friend I hope you will enjoy I will your new phone. The V30 is the phone what all we want it is just All In One phone, but just we need really camera comparison. And I hope that they will release full good update for camera.
P. S. Yes, someone will tell if you want good camera buy DSLR, that's true but if I want to buy flagship phone I want with good camera.
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Ha! I'm a bit of a photographer already. I shoot with a full frame DSLR and a smaller mirror less in addition to my cellphones. To tell you the truth, I only drag my DSLR out for road trips and special shooting conditions. At this point I do most of my shooting with smaller sensors like my mirror less or cellphone. DSLR sensors are too clinically clean for my tastes. I just reset my Flickr account settings so people can see which shots are done with which camera:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/
I will say that when I shoot, most of the shots are going to end up in B&W. That's just my shooting preference.
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Looking forward very much to these tests! Thank you so much! I heard a rumour that the V30 mikes cannot be directed like the v20 could but it could be nonsense there are two mikes instead of the three in the v20
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The information about the V30 is a bit confusing. I've looked my V20 over and over for the three mics it's listed as having and only ever saw two holes for mics, one on top and one on the bottom. In the JerryRig tear down of the V30, he does point out something interesting though. He points out the same two mics but then mentions that the phone's earpiece becomes a mic in very loud conditions. I'm guessing the V20 did the same then and explains why the sound when testing video recording sounds different than if I am just doing audio recording without video.
As for whether the mics are directional or not while recording video, I swear I saw one video where someone was demonstrating it on the V30. Only problem is that I've watched just about every V30 video on YouTube from a lot of the larger tech contributors that I will have a hell of a time trying to go back and look for it. I suspect it will be there.
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Ha! I'm a bit of a photographer already. I shoot with a full frame DSLR and a smaller mirror less in addition to my cellphones. To tell you the truth, I only drag my DSLR out for road trips and special shooting conditions. At this point I do most of my shooting with smaller sensors like my mirror less or cellphone. DSLR sensors are too clinically clean for my tastes. I just reset my Flickr account settings so people can see which shots are done with which camera:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/
I will say that when I shoot, most of the shots are going to end up in B&W. That's just my shooting preference.
The information about the V30 is a bit confusing. I've looked my V20 over and over for the three mics it's listed as having and only ever saw two holes for mics, one on top and one on the bottom. In the JerryRig tear down of the V30, he does point out something interesting though. He points out the same two mics but then mentions that the phone's earpiece becomes a mic in very loud conditions. I'm guessing the V20 did the same then and explains why the sound when testing video recording sounds different than if I am just doing audio recording without video.
As for whether the mics are directional or not while recording video, I swear I saw one video where someone was demonstrating it on the V30. Only problem is that I've watched just about every V30 video on YouTube from a lot of the larger tech contributors that I will have a hell of a time trying to go back and look for it. I suspect it will be there.
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Waaoo thx you a lot. I hope a good camera comparison (test) for LG V30 from you. And, your photos are very nice
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In the JerryRig tear down of the V30, he does point out something interesting though. He points out the same two mics but then mentions that the phone's earpiece becomes a mic in very loud conditions.
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Yes, like concerts. That was very interesting part of the video.
In LG official web site, now they put info about camera. It is good it see that Slow Motion have 240fps at 720p. But too bad it is not 1080p...
LG V30 camera is phenomenal, Saw a comparison between the Galaxy Note 8, the LG V30 did a lot better, specially the rear cameras., LG V30 should have been released faster and for the DXOmark scores, the V30 should score higher than Galaxy Note 8.
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LG V30 camera is phenomenal, Saw a comparison between the Galaxy Note 8, the LG V30 did a lot better, specially the rear cameras., LG V30 should have been released faster and for the DXOmark scores, the V30 should score higher than Galaxy Note 8.
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I hope that will be soon very good comparison between last flagships.
I'm not a grammar Nazi but its not old enough to be past tense.... "Does the v30 have a crappy camera?"
Guys as a long time htc user, I have been on xda for a long time just for htc mega thread. After doing a little research, I noticed that there's no such thread for lg, there are separate threads for lg devices but no mega thread where all but mostly latest devices are discussed. Can someone start a thread like that?
Also if you can read or don't mind translating Korean language, here's an amazingly detailed review of lg v30
http://m.post.naver.com/viewer/post...No=11981539&searchKeyword=lg v30&searchRank=2
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Ha! I'm a bit of a photographer already. I shoot with a full frame DSLR and a smaller mirror less in addition to my cellphones. To tell you the truth, I only drag my DSLR out for road trips and special shooting conditions. At this point I do most of my shooting with smaller sensors like my mirror less or cellphone. DSLR sensors are too clinically clean for my tastes. I just reset my Flickr account settings so people can see which shots are done with which camera:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/
I will say that when I shoot, most of the shots are going to end up in B&W. That's just my shooting preference.
The information about the V30 is a bit confusing. I've looked my V20 over and over for the three mics it's listed as having and only ever saw two holes for mics, one on top and one on the bottom. In the JerryRig tear down of the V30, he does point out something interesting though. He points out the same two mics but then mentions that the phone's earpiece becomes a mic in very loud conditions. I'm guessing the V20 did the same then and explains why the sound when testing video recording sounds different than if I am just doing audio recording without video.
As for whether the mics are directional or not while recording video, I swear I saw one video where someone was demonstrating it on the V30. Only problem is that I've watched just about every V30 video on YouTube from a lot of the larger tech contributors that I will have a hell of a time trying to go back and look for it. I suspect it will be there.
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Thank you! You mentioned that the audio recording quality changes between using the camera while on video vs recording only audio with the dedicated audio recording app on the LG, which one gets you the better audio and utilises the earpiece as a mic please? Are you able to record high pitches like a flute or sax on the high register and drum sets?
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Guys as a long time htc user, I have been on xda for a long time just for htc mega thread. After doing a little research, I noticed that there's no such thread for lg, there are separate threads for lg devices but no mega thread where all but mostly latest devices are discussed. Can someone start a thread like that?
Also if you can read or don't mind translating Korean language, here's an amazingly detailed review of lg v30
http://m.post.naver.com/viewer/post...No=11981539&searchKeyword=lg v30&searchRank=2
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Thx a lot for this web site. How I see that everything is nice. But the camera is still (I think) bad. The V20 have better photos at night, and V30 dont have so good dynamic range. What's wrong with V30? Softwear problem or hardware?
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Thx a lot for your answer but is this user credible? How did he get Pixel and V30? :/ is this true?
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No. it's obvious fake
Those are true
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If it ships today and I have it in hand by the weekend, I have a standard set of tests I can run on it.
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Oh, please run those
Hi there, I've taken quite a few photos with the mate 10 pro. All on automatic settings, but I'm a bit disappointed with the results... when you zoom in a bit (to peoples faces) they look like oil paintings...
I'm on UK C782 ver .124. bought from cpw.
I'm not interested in fannying about with different modes... I'm talking about taking a picture of your kids on auto promptly... they never stand still for more than a couple of seconds, so you don't have time to set exposure, and iso etc etc !!!!
Haven't had an update in months, so am wondering if there are any updates (that might be impending) that improve the camera a bit... was really expecting better from a dual camera Leica setup...
Hoping for some good news
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Hi there, I've taken quite a few photos with the mate 10 pro. All on automatic settings, but I'm a bit disappointed with the results... when you zoom in a bit (to peoples faces) they look like oil paintings...
I'm on UK C782 ver .124. bought from cpw.
I'm not interested in fannying about with different modes... I'm talking about taking a picture of your kids on auto promptly... they never stand still for more than a couple of seconds, so you don't have time to set exposure, and iso etc etc !!!!
Haven't had an update in months, so am wondering if there are any updates (that might be impending) that improve the camera a bit... was really expecting better from a dual camera Leica setup...
Hoping for some good news
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I had this problem with my Mate 10 pro, the only way I managed to solve this issue was to replace the phone with a Pixel 2 Xl!
You might now be thinking "ok smart arse, why are you trolling the M10P threads?"
As much as i like the Pixel, i'm still kinda interested in the M10P and was hoping a firmware update has sorted the oil paintings. Clearly not hence your thread.
One thing you could try is installing the pixel camera apk, its on the forum section somewhere. Guess I'll still with the pixel!
You can enable RAW images. It will take a JPEG and a DNG file with each click. The DNG is unprocessed, so it doesn't have that aggressive NR, but it takes an extra step to get sharable pictures out of it.
Wish NR level is a setting, but unfortunately, it is not. However, it is completely a software issue, so Huawei theoretically can fix it if they feel that their post processing isn't very good. I just doubt that they will. On the other hand, I've seen hacked APKs for the Moto camera app that allowed changes to NR, so that might be a solution in the future.
I do believe this is a software issue... I think the hardware is capable of much more but Huawei has smoothed things way too aggressively... I'm on pretty old firmware (but that's a moan for another thread) so was wondering if any of the guys with newer firmware noticed any improvements...
I have the same issue on my Mate 10 Pro I was literally shocked because I had the Mate 9 before. the camera of the Mate 9 is better than this Version. i really use snapchat a lot and you just can't get any usable pictures with it. even with the main camera the photos Look blurry and Oily? i am very unsatisfied i hope it will get fixed soon ... greetings from Germany
use 'open camera' with the jpeg quality set to highest
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I had this problem with my Mate 10 pro, the only way I managed to solve this issue was to replace the phone with a Pixel 2 Xl!
You might now be thinking "ok smart arse, why are you trolling the M10P threads?"
As much as i like the Pixel, i'm still kinda interested in the M10P and was hoping a firmware update has sorted the oil paintings. Clearly not hence your thread.
One thing you could try is installing the pixel camera apk, its on the forum section somewhere. Guess I'll still with the pixel!
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Strange that you should say that...because I bought a pixel XL 2 - because was frustrated by low quality photos and abysmal updates from Huawei (still running Nov security patch ffs)...
Took similar photos with M10Pro and Pixel XL 2, and Pixel photos blew Mate 10's out of the water.. despite being 12MP as opposed to the 20MP of the M10Pro...
But... I do like the feel of the M10Pro, it's a truly gorgeous device..(feels good in the hand !!, ladies... to quote Flossy Carter)... just wish the camera was that bit better... a dude suggested installing open camera... might give that a whirr... but it's a bit naff that you've got to install a 3rd party camera app coz the supplied one is [email protected]
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hmm.. so much for its "AI" assisted camera. Maybe AI stands for "Artist's Impression!"
so many pics look like an oil painting!
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Strange that you should say that...because I bought a pixel XL 2 - because was frustrated by low quality photos and abysmal updates from Huawei (still running Nov security patch ffs)...
Took similar photos with M10Pro and Pixel XL 2, and Pixel photos blew Mate 10's out of the water.. despite being 12MP as opposed to the 20MP of the M10Pro...
But... I do like the feel of the M10Pro, it's a truly gorgeous device..(feels good in the hand !!, ladies... to quote Flossy Carter)... just wish the camera was that bit better... a dude suggested installing open camera... might give that a whirr... but it's a bit naff that you've got to install a 3rd party camera app coz the supplied one is [email protected]
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I hear ya, It is a great device, has everything I was looking for, IR blaster, Battery, premium build (feels good in the hand, ladies ) but the camera and the updates just killed it for me. Thought I'd dip back in and see how things are going. I recon Huawei will drop this phone now. all hands on the P20 pump!
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hmm.. so much for its "AI" assisted camera. Maybe AI stands for "Artist's Impression!"
so many pics look like an oil painting!
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I hear ya, It is a great device, has everything I was looking for, IR blaster, Battery, premium build (feels good in the hand, ladies ) but the camera and the updates just killed it for me. Thought I'd dip back in and see how things are going. I recon Huawei will drop this phone now. all hands on the P20 pump!
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It's a bummer, do like the phone, but Huawei have a lot to learn from the big boys... I've had one update in 3 months... utter sh!te from Huawei... for all I know the latest firmware could have the best camera on earth.... but until Huawei push it out at their utter glacial pace, it might as well be on the far side of the moon... Hardware isn't everything, without decent software....
thats why now i dont believe in dxo anymore . 97 score ? really ?
falsivas said:
It's a bummer, do like the phone, but Huawei have a lot to learn from the big boys... I've had one update in 3 months... utter sh!te from Huawei... for all I know the latest firmware could have the best camera on earth.... but until Huawei push it out at their utter glacial pace, it might as well be on the far side of the moon... Hardware isn't everything, without decent software....
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I received two updates in the first five weeks of ownership, so can't complain about that aspect. Different regions are getting different tiers of updates, so I'm wondering whether your local carriers have anything to do with the slow availability of updates (i.e., I'm wondering if Huawei is consulting with UK carriers to decide on what's included in the C782 firmware - I'm on C636 and currently up to version 131).
I hadn't really noticed any issues with photos until I came across your thread, and now see that if I zoom right in, I can see the effects overly-aggressive smoothing. This doesn't really pose a problem for me as I've never thought of a mobile 'phone camera as being good for anything more than "happy snaps," but I can understand that some people want better performance (especially given that this is a major selling point of the Mate 10).
I agree that it's very likely only a software issue; hopefully Huawei will allow their developers to wrest themselves away from the View 10 (which seems to be getting the lion's share of software attention at the moment) for long enough to give us a tangible update for the Mate 10.
So with a pixel 2 when a photo is zoomed in, there is no grainy effect either ? If its a choice between grainy and oil painting, for me both are bad and not a reason to specifically complain about Mate 10.
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It's a bummer, do like the phone, but Huawei have a lot to learn from the big boys... I've had one update in 3 months... utter sh!te from Huawei... for all I know the latest firmware could have the best camera on earth.... but until Huawei push it out at their utter glacial pace, it might as well be on the far side of the moon... Hardware isn't everything, without decent software....
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Totally agree, talking of updates, my Honor 8 is stuck on August 2017 security patch. Neither the staff on phones or twitter have an answer as to wether i'll get an update or what the latest version is.
So glad I have the P2XL. Maybe Huawei will get their act together for the M11?!
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people don't look like look like oil pantings with pics taken on my Pixel
mwatson said:
Totally agree, talking of updates, my Honor 8 is stuck on August 2017 security patch. Neither the staff on phones or twitter have an answer as to wether i'll get an update or what the latest version is.
So glad I have the P2XL. Maybe Huawei will get their act together for the M11?!
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people don't look like look like oil pantings with pics taken on my Pixel
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Why do you expect a mid 2016 Huawei's budget priced Honor phone to update security patches every month ?
Android should get their act together first before expecting skinned roms to be easy and frequent as stock android. From a global scale each country has their own roms and every time Android comes with up some minor patch (likley not even an important patch) Huawei and Honor all have to deliver update to their 50+ phone models in 80 different countries ? From a realistic view don't expect any change in update frequency from Huawei until Android from the core has changed first.
My mate 10 being flagship has received its 3rd update since December and i am more than happy. Realistically i know after 1 year the updates gets less frequent and when close to release of the Mate 12 , i don't expect any more than once or twice a year update.
warea said:
Why do you expect a mid 2016 Huawei's budget priced Honor phone to update security patches every month ?
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where did I say every month? I do expect patches as Honor sold the phone on the understanding it would receive updates for two years. I take your point though. There is something odd going on with Huawei/Honor distribution. Some like yourself seem to be getting frequent updates. Others like myself are being disappointed. Mine were SIM free so should avoid carrier delays.
warea said:
So with a pixel 2 when a photo is zoomed in, there is no grainy effect either ? If its a choice between grainy and oil painting, for me both are bad and not a reason to specifically complain about Mate 10.
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Think you missed the point... Zoom into the pixel 2 xl photos and they're not grainy. Or over processed. They just look good.. Which I was hoping the 20Mp snapper on the m10pro would achieve also considering the quality of the optics
falsivas said:
Think you missed the point... Zoom into the pixel 2 xl photos and they're not grainy. Or over processed. They just look good.. Which I was hoping the 20Mp snapper on the m10pro would achieve also considering the quality of the optics
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As you said before for me is simply a software issue, I hope at list I had a p9 plus before and the photos did't have this watercolor effect when you zoom
Sounds like beauty mode. Sure it's turned off?
this thread is about photo quality and i don't see a single photo here, proof baby proof
tboy2000 said:
Sounds like beauty mode. Sure it's turned off?
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Can't find any beauty settings for rear camera...(have found them on the front facing one and they make a serious difference (smoothing out even my mug))... where is the beauty setting on the rear camera ?
Is it me or is the NE P30 Pro got a slightly better camera?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-rw-pHEdLg
Has Huawei secretly included a better camera in this
For me it's the same result...
Maybe it's just a post processing different in a few cases.
ali_bobo said:
Is it me or is the NE P30 Pro got a slightly better camera?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-rw-pHEdLg
Has Huawei secretly included a better camera in this
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I wouldn't trust the review and also the reviewer. Photos are identical, just photoshoped to look different. Look at moving cars, people, they are in the exact same position. Even if you take photos at the same time, you have lag and wouldn't catch the exact same position for everything.
mircea89fzr said:
I wouldn't trust the review and also the reviewer. Photos are identical, just photoshoped to look different. Look at moving cars, people, they are in the exact same position. Even if you take photos at the same time, you have lag and wouldn't catch the exact same position for everything.
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Yeah your probably right. There are more videos like this though.
Im thinking maybe its EMUI 10.1 vs EMUI 9.0 that is making a difference too.
ali_bobo said:
Yeah your probably right. There are more videos like this though.
Im thinking maybe its EMUI 10.1 vs EMUI 9.0 that is making a difference too.
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Exactly, there are more FAKE videos like this from different youtube users claiming to have tested different phones. Just click bait. Photos are identical, just photoshoped and somewhat cropped/rotated to change perception.
For me that comparative is incongruous. These photos aren't taked in same conditions and not even same camera, it's absurd.
Having had the phone a few days now I've had time test the camera properly. I've noticed it tends to soften images, this is particularly noticeable with pets highlighted in the fur.
Coming from the pixel 4 it's pretty disappointing that it can't compete in a lot of instances.
The first few pics I took were absolutely awful. I updated the software and this improved the camera considerably. What's the chances of the camera software improving with further updates? Anyone coming from other Samsung devices that's had the camera improve with updates?
Really love everything else about the phone and don't really wanna return it.
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Having had the phone a few days now I've had time test the camera properly. I've noticed it tends to soften images, this is particularly noticeable with pets highlighted in the fur.
Coming from the pixel 4 it's pretty disappointing that it can't compete in a lot of instances.
The first few pics I took were absolutely awful. I updated the software and this improved the camera considerably. What's the chances of the camera software improving with further updates? Anyone coming from other Samsung devices that's had the camera improve with updates?
Really love everything else about the phone and don't really wanna return it.
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The softening your seeing is Sammy's processing. Complete garbage. It's the same on all their phones. Including my note 10+.
GCam mods are superior
That sucks. Guessing we won't be seeing a working exynos gcam version any time soon either.
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That sucks. Guessing we won't be seeing a working exynos gcam version any time soon either.
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ZGCAM works ok on Exynos, I can't seem to apply the configs though, worth you giving it a try to see how you find it
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ZGCAM works ok on Exynos, I can't seem to apply the configs though, worth you giving it a try to see how you find it
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I've just got it now thanks, I'll have a play with it. What are the configs for?
Coming from a Pixel 4a the camera quality is VERY disappointing if you're using your cell phone camera to take pictures of anything that isn't a non-moving well-lit object. Lots of detail is lost especially when the subject is a person - facial features are smoothed out and that makes the hair look really blended together. Disabling the scene optimizer seems to help but you can't disable this in Portrait mode.
I have GCam installed but haven't had a chance to tweak the settings. It's better than the stock camera but........ coming from a $350 phone to an $800 phone and I still need to tweak camera settings???? Can't really express how disappointed I am in the camera quality and there is stock post processing is almost impossible to turn off.
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I've just got it now thanks, I'll have a play with it. What are the configs for?
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I believe they are "settings" that users share to give best performance in certain situations, I might be wrong though, that's my interpretation of them.
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I've just got it now thanks, I'll have a play with it. What are the configs for?
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I just seen another post and realised that the "configs" folder needs to be renaed to "configs7" to work, I have only found N10Z4 config to work so far, others crash the app.
Here's the link from the other post by Beserker15 https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/settings09/
Hi there. My camera is truly appalling, and significantly worse than the S10 I traded in. All photos on any setting are grainy and noisy. I can't get a good quality photo from a metre away in good light. Does anyone know if this is a software issue they are going to release a fix for? If not, I'm going to send it back I think.
Winnie87 said:
Hi there. My camera is truly appalling, and significantly worse than the S10 I traded in. All photos on any setting are grainy and noisy. I can't get a good quality photo from a metre away in good light. Does anyone know if this is a software issue they are going to release a fix for? If not, I'm going to send it back I think.
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Mine was like this right out of the box. The first software update improved it a lot but it's still very disappointing.
lect1984 said:
Coming from a Pixel 4a the camera quality is VERY disappointing if you're using your cell phone camera to take pictures of anything that isn't a non-moving well-lit object. Lots of detail is lost especially when the subject is a person - facial features are smoothed out and that makes the hair look really blended together. Disabling the scene optimizer seems to help but you can't disable this in Portrait mode.
I have GCam installed but haven't had a chance to tweak the settings. It's better than the stock camera but........ coming from a $350 phone to an $800 phone and I still need to tweak camera settings???? Can't really express how disappointed I am in the camera quality and there is stock post processing is almost impossible to turn off.
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My thoughts exactly, I'm sending it back this week. I was gonna go for the ultra instead but I asked the question over there and it seems while it's a step up from the regular S21 it's still very disappointing. In just gonna keep the pixel 4 till something decent comes out. Probably the next pixel now.
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My thoughts exactly, I'm sending it back this week. I was gonna go for the ultra instead but I asked the question over there and it seems while it's a step up from the regular S21 it's still very disappointing. In just gonna keep the pixel 4 till something decent comes out. Probably the next pixel now.
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The next actual "high end" pixel that comes out (not some mid-range device) my note 10+ is going bye bye. Never gonna look back at Samsung again.
The camera is good for outdoor. These pictures have been shot from approximately 150 meters [hand-held]. Please see it as a guide for you.
How's the audio zoom working in videos? Does the audio actually zoom in that direction or does it just get louder?
Agree the camera/app is disappointing. Hopefully they get it improved soon
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The camera is good for outdoor. These pictures have been shot from approximately 150 meters [hand-held]. Please see it as a guide for you.
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Every new phone nowadays does a good enough job outdoors in daylight. The slew of problems with Samsungs camera come right after that. Especially indoors. Shutter lag and HDR always on no matter what you set it to just kill the camera. Samsung desperately needs ZSL.