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I have a little scratch on it, like 4 mm long and when i have a white background, its very good noticeable, it deforms the colors.
I have no screen protector, i ordered 1 yesterday, but it seems i'm to late. I always keep my G1 in the nice pocket that came with it.
Can i do it away, or do i have to live with it ?
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I have a little scratch on it, like 4 mm long and when i have a white background, its very good noticeable, it deforms the colors.
I have no screen protector, i ordered 1 yesterday, but it seems i'm to late. I always keep my G1 in the nice pocket that came with it.
Can i do it away, or do i have to live with it ?
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there is a way for non - touch screen phones but i dont think there is a way for touch screen ones, however i could be mistaken
sanding paper 6000 grit+ ( gluck finding those )
or maybe cd scratch remover
I never tried any of those so you might want to wait for a more appropriate answer
** I remove my ps3 scratches with 2k grit sand paper , some wax and voila no more scratches but I'm really not sure if 6000 grit paper or even 8000-12000 grit paper might do the job for a screen. Try it on a very old screen if you ever want to try sanding down your screen
Try using tooth paste, yes toothpaste, the colgate kind, it has some grit to it. No guarantees though, be careful, not responsible for minty fresh dead phones.
or google that stuff advertised in the late 90's to remove scrathes from eyeglasses... was I thing a self leveling polymer or some such.... but not to expencive
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or google that stuff advertised in the late 90's to remove scrathes from eyeglasses... was I thing a self leveling polymer or some such.... but not to expencive
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This is your best bet but you're going to have to be careful not to leave any on the screen where there is no scratch.
These are capacitive touchscreens, the surface of the glass/screen is special.
bad recommendation. sorry
Edit: Nevermind... Applesauce only works for ipods. Evidently it's too abrasive for the iphone, so it would be too abrasive for us too.
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http://www.displex.com/ never tried it, but this is what its for.
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Attention: use only on non-coated surfaces and plastics; when used on mobile phones, treat only the transparent portions of the display lens. Not for use with touch screen displays.
Google "displex for touch screen" and you will come up with a ton of results saying it is not for touchscreens, especially capacitive like the G1 because it will remove the indium tin oxide that conducts the electric flow across the screen.
i guess sanding is out of question then
i tough there was some plastic protector to protect the real screen
Some of the screen protectors can hide scratches when applied. The Invisible Shield has been known for this due to its flexible material. No guarantees though.
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Some of the screen protectors can hide scratches when applied. The Invisible Shield has been known for this due to its flexible material. No guarantees though.
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I can confirm this, I actually just used a screen protector on my old VX6900 Vogue, it made most of the scratches disappear except for this one very very deep one.
I got some of the mirror protectors, a bit meh, kinda covers one of the 2 small scratches on my screen (not that they are that noticeable anyway). I have the standard kind in the post, so I'll try one of those when they get here.
Vaseline works great on most standard LCDs. The day I bought a 19" WS LCD I knocked it over, coffee all over it, but on it's way down it caught the edge of my baccy tin, leaving a bright blue stuck pixel in the middle of a scratch (arghh). Luckily I was able to massage out the pixel and cover over the scratch with some clear Vaseline, it's still visible, but only from extreme angles (way beyond the viewing angle of the screen).
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I got some of the mirror protectors, a bit meh, kinda covers one of the 2 small scratches on my screen (not that they are that noticeable anyway). I have the standard kind in the post, so I'll try one of those when they get here.
Vaseline works great on most standard LCDs. The day I bought a 19" WS LCD I knocked it over, coffee all over it, but on it's way down it caught the edge of my baccy tin, leaving a bright blue stuck pixel in the middle of a scratch (arghh). Luckily I was able to massage out the pixel and cover over the scratch with some clear Vaseline, it's still visible, but only from extreme angles (way beyond the viewing angle of the screen).
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Sounds good for a tv but for a touch screen device....vaseline? would make for a difficult experience
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Sounds good for a tv but for a touch screen device....vaseline? would make for a difficult experience
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Yeah I mean it won't work on a phone, it's pretty good on a proper LCD, I think because the refractive properties are far closer to the material than air.
I'm looking at an installed Otterbox Defender, and I'm disturbed to see the plastic sheet is cut way too low on the screen, around the earpiece. The shape of the black plastic shell alone is sufficently large enough to clear the sensors/ffc/speaker. There was no need for them to die cut the screen too. This creates a literal pocket for dirt to collect against the screen. Is that how they all are? That's an unforgivable flaw.
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I'm looking at an installed Otterbox Defender, and I'm disturbed to see the plastic sheet is cut way too low on the screen, around the earpiece. The shape of the black plastic shell alone is sufficently large enough to clear the sensors/ffc/speaker. There was no need for them to die cut the screen too. This creates a literal pocket for dirt to collect against the screen. Is that how they all are? That's an unforgivable flaw.
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Yes sir, the case was designed that way. Returned mine for that reason.
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Yes sir, the case was designed that way. Returned mine for that reason.
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What a stunningly foolish design. All the had to do was glue $0.005 worth of thin fabric between the plastic (doesn't matter since the LCD isn't there) and that would protect the entire front, plus the speaker.
I'm thinking of getting some really light fabric, coating it with silicone, and pressing it in place. Shouldn't affect speaker quality, silicone is soft so no chance of glass damage, and it would essentially waterproof (to a degree of course) the entire front.
The commuter screen protector sucks too. It was flawless for the EVO, but doesn't fit the 3d right
It fits my screen just fine.
The only thing that doesn't fit is the top part of the silicone casing. Everything else is super.
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The commuter screen protector sucks too. It was flawless for the EVO, but doesn't fit the 3d right
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It fits my screen just fine.
The only thing that doesn't fit is the top part of the silicone casing. Everything else is super.
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Hmm...are you sure you're not talking about the Commuter?
Could be worst....the guys over in the sensation forum are crying because otterbox isnt making them a case lol
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Hmm...are you sure you're not talking about the Commuter?
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That would be why he replied to someone elses post about the Commuter
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I'm looking at an installed Otterbox Defender, and I'm disturbed to see the plastic sheet is cut way too low on the screen, around the earpiece. The shape of the black plastic shell alone is sufficently large enough to clear the sensors/ffc/speaker. There was no need for them to die cut the screen too. This creates a literal pocket for dirt to collect against the screen. Is that how they all are? That's an unforgivable flaw.
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Couldn't agree more. I see this as a huge design mistake.
I saw this too, but I really did not think much of it. I guess there is no such thing as a perfect case.
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Put a full screen protector on it before case and its fine love mine no issues love it no dust issues.
That's the way the case was made no issues.
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Couldn't agree more. I see this as a huge design mistake.
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I returned it to Best Buy, and got the Platinum Series - 2-in-1 Covert Convertible Case for HTC (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Platinu...18353391762&skuId=2809635&st=evo 3d&cp=2&lp=3). I haven't decided if I'm keeping it yet though.
When I returned it, I feared getting a hard time since technically it was open (even there are no seals on the box) but as soon as I briefly showed the guy the top of the case, where it's cut too low, he was absolutely shocked and said "that looks like it was designed to collect grit and be suicide for your screen" and happily exchanged it.
And yeah, you can (and should I guess) use a screen protector too, but it's just so silly for a case that was designed to be the toughest, most rugged thing to have such a glaring vulnerability. I'd rather they addressed that, than put time and effort into putting a plug over something else. I'd rather get my 2D/3D switch dirty if it meant they would have focused more effort on the most important thing - the screen. And given how tightly and accurately the plastic case fits, why did they have to make the hole for the proximity/speaker/ffc so sloppy and loose? They could have cut that thing out with submilimeter accuracy, and it would have fit great, since there is no need for wobble-room/slop when that case otherwise fits so perfectly.
The Defender does feel very nice in hand though, very solid, and I loved the silicone they used. Had a wonderful feel, not the usual tacky silicone you see in "gel" cases or whatever you call them.
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I returned it to Best Buy, and got the Platinum Series - 2-in-1 Covert Convertible Case for HTC (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Platinu...18353391762&skuId=2809635&st=evo 3d&cp=2&lp=3). I haven't decided if I'm keeping it yet though.
When I returned it, I feared getting a hard time since technically it was open (even there are no seals on the box) but as soon as I briefly showed the guy the top of the case, where it's cut too low, he was absolutely shocked and said "that looks like it was designed to collect grit and be suicide for your screen" and happily exchanged it.
And yeah, you can (and should I guess) use a screen protector too, but it's just so silly for a case that was designed to be the toughest, most rugged thing to have such a glaring vulnerability. I'd rather they addressed that, than put time and effort into putting a plug over something else. I'd rather get my 2D/3D switch dirty if it meant they would have focused more effort on the most important thing - the screen. And given how tightly and accurately the plastic case fits, why did they have to make the hole for the proximity/speaker/ffc so sloppy and loose? They could have cut that thing out with submilimeter accuracy, and it would have fit great, since there is no need for wobble-room/slop when that case otherwise fits so perfectly.
The Defender does feel very nice in hand though, very solid, and I loved the silicone they used. Had a wonderful feel, not the usual tacky silicone you see in "gel" cases or whatever you call them.
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I checked the case ur talkin about out felt flimsy compared to the defender also less protection otter box defender takes the cake there. I didn't like the gay flap they had on the convert to cover the camera lens wait for ballistic to.come out with there case if your wanting a tank.
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I checked the case ur talkin about out felt flimsy compared to the defender also less protection otter box defender takes the cake there. I didn't like the gay flap they had on the convert to cover the camera lens wait for ballistic to.come out with there case if your wanting a tank.
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Yeah, I agree. But for me, the best case I ever had for my Evo4G was the Seidio Surface (or BB rebranded equivalent). My plan was to get an ultrarugged case for those days I'm working outside in the field (haha, literally) and the Surface for regular daily use. So that's why the Convert case sorta fits both bills. But I agree, for someone that needs extreme protection daily, the Convert isn't as good as others like the Defender.
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Yeah, I agree. But for me, the best case I ever had for my Evo4G was the Seidio Surface (or BB rebranded equivalent). My plan was to get an ultrarugged case for those days I'm working outside in the field (haha, literally) and the Surface for regular daily use. So that's why the Convert case sorta fits both bills. But I agree, for someone that needs extreme protection daily, the Convert isn't as good as others like the Defender.
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Hope it works out for u man. I liked the feel of the otter box more then the seidio convert re branded heard some bad things about how flimsy it was checked it out at best buy didn't really seem as sexy as defender . I think ballistic would be good just that thing is a freaking tank. hope u have good luck with finding a case man.
Yeah, I quickly noticed the dust issue there too, but hey, compared to the bubbles that inevitably arise with stick-on screen protectors? I'll take it. I was able to get a swiffer cloth underneath the gap and managed to rid some of the dust that way. The only other option I might consider, if it becomes a real issue later on, is to poke a piece of a feather duster under the protector and gently swab it every so often. FYI- If you use the plastic clip while in your pocket (With the screen facing the backside of the clip), then it won't pick-up that much dust.
Other than the aforementioned, this case is everything I really ever wanted in a protective shell. I love the lens covers, screen protector, double layer of hard/soft protection, and how it fits the device like a glove. I think we can always find an issue with something if we look hard enough, but this thing rocks.
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Yeah, I quickly noticed the dust issue there too, but hey, compared to the bubbles that inevitably arise with stick-on screen protectors? I'll take it. I was able to get a swiffer cloth underneath the gap and managed to rid some of the dust that way. The only other option I might consider, if it becomes a real issue later on, is to poke a piece of a feather duster under the protector and gently swab it every so often. FYI- If you use the plastic clip while in your pocket (With the screen facing the backside of the clip), then it won't pick-up that much dust.
Other than the aforementioned, this case is everything I really ever wanted in a protective shell. I love the lens covers, screen protector, double layer of hard/soft protection, and how it fits the device like a glove. I think we can always find an issue with something if we look hard enough, but this thing rocks.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150623970249&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123 put this on before the case and ur good to go no dust works great for me in the garage where I work on the shop floor mechanic
Just get a Zagg and pull the plastic piece off the Otterbox..
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Just get a Zagg and pull the plastic piece off the Otterbox..
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LOL if u use zagg don't put to much solution on the protector or u will get water damage on the screen don't know hoe well these screens are sealed og EVO had ****ty glass sealing the screen was never glued all the way around .
I am looking for an either or, relatively thin case with credit card slot or just a thin case.
Smays Genuine Leather Holder [I like this a lot, CC holder and it looks protective enough. Q: Would this protect the phone if it falls and lands on it's corners?]
http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Genuine...1425680666&sr=8-2&keywords=ascend+mate+2+case
SOJITEK BPA Crystal Clear [Not so excited about the whole crystal clear. To me, this sounds like a dust magnet, but other than that, it sounds like it will protect it every well.]
http://www.amazon.com/Transparent-S...1425680844&sr=1-5&keywords=ascend+mate+2+case
My favorite case ever was this one for my last phone. Diztronic Matte Case
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006CUZP84/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
All advice is greatly appreciated.
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I am looking for an either or, relatively thin case with credit card slot or just a thin case.
Smays Genuine Leather Holder [I like this a lot, CC holder and it looks protective enough. Q: Would this protect the phone if it falls and lands on it's corners?]
http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Genuine...1425680666&sr=8-2&keywords=ascend+mate+2+case
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All advice is greatly appreciated.
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I've been using the Smays case since October. So far, it's done a good job of protecting the phone. It's been dropped numerous times. It was also in my pocket when when I tripped while running and fell. I don't know if it's ever landed on a corner, though.
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I've been using the Smays case since October. So far, it's done a good job of protecting the phone. It's been dropped numerous times. It was also in my pocket when when I tripped while running and fell. I don't know if it's ever landed on a corner, though.
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Do you think if it feel on a corner of the phone that it would be protected? Thank you for the reply.
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I have this case. I think it looks nice and doesn't make a big phone even bigger, but needless to say: function > form. Once I dropped my phone face-first onto the sidewalk. I picked my phone up and when I flipped it over to examine the screen, I found a few chips around the corners of the case and one small one on the plastic rim on the front that surrounds the screen.
I think that Smays one is your best bet, unless you'd like the Cyclops one.
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Do you think if it feel on a corner of the phone that it would be protected? Thank you for the reply.
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I'm not going to try to predict that, but I think it's safe to say that the corners and ends are the least protected parts of the phone when using this case. The plastic cradle that holds the phone extends partially around the corners, so they are not entirely without protection. I can think of some scenarios in which the case might not prevent damage to the phone if it were dropped from a distance of, say, four feet (about 1.2 meters) onto a hard surface, but the phone would have to fall in a very specfic way: face down, with one of the corners making first impact.
I think in most situations, this case should provide adequate protection, but it is not perfect.
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I have this case. I think it looks nice and doesn't make a big phone even bigger, but needless to say: function > form. Once I dropped my phone face-first onto the sidewalk. I picked my phone up and when I flipped it over to examine the screen, I found a few chips around the corners of the case and one small one on the plastic rim on the front that surrounds the screen.
I think that Smays one is your best bet, unless you'd like the Cyclops one.
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I use the same case. The Nilkin cases are excellent.
Hey guys,
Thought I'd share my experience with this screen protector.
I've tried damn near all available on the market (tempered glass specifically) except the official OnePlus tempered glass. None were up to par. They all only have adhesive along the edges only which imo is a poor desicion. I see no plus to this.
The ones i tried all got dust under in a matter of days, and some even fell off completely after small drop tests.
Although this spigen is not a tgsp, it's is worth every penny. Application was easy, the wet application makes it to where alignment is 99 percent perfect. It covers at least all of the lighted display, of course it doesnt follow the 2.5d curve.
After application it took a couple hours to clear up any haziness that remained after squeegee/drying process. Don't apply too much pressure as I seem to have wrinkled a corner.
All in all, very satisfied with the product and will continue to buy after they get ugly...unless they make a perfect tgsp im the future.
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074...+5+neoflex&dpPl=1&dpID=516YABFlNoL&ref=plSrch
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Edited. My bad.
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. all good! Going to try one of these when I get paid!
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. all good! Going to try one of these when I get paid!
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It's pretty much the same as the one comes pre-installed on the device.
Hoe does this protector goes with dust? Not underneath, bit on top? The pre installed protector is a real dust catcher ...everything I get the phone out of my pocket I have to clean the screen from dust
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Hoe does this protector goes with dust? Not underneath, bit on top? The pre installed protector is a real dust catcher ...everything I get the phone out of my pocket I have to clean the screen from dust
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Its far less of a dust/lint magnet. Id say 80 percent less attraction.
I just bought this protector as well, and installed it today.
It is exactly the same size as the pre-installed protector, which personally I like. That avoids issues with the curved screen, but is still large enough to protect the screen adequately when using a case. Of course the second benefit is that this is a case friendly screen protector. I have a cheap black TPU case similar to the spigen rugged armor, and they fit together without issue.
This is one of those healing/indestructible type protectors that have been around awhile, like an IQ Shield. I have used these on older devices, although I upgraded to TGSP on my last phone. I would have bought a TGSP for this phone, but apparently, the manufacturers have no clue what they're doing. I do like this type of protector. It is a wet application. This protector makes the screen appear slightly textured when viewed from extreme angles, but not much viewed straight on. I need to give it a full day to dry before I get too critical of it. The package came with two, and I'm likely to use these until a decent TGSP rolls around.
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This is one of those healing/indestructible type protectors that have been around awhile, like an IQ Shield.
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Yup, forgot to mention that. Still don't have any cosmetic problems with the film. Even the wrinkle I mentioned in the first post has corrected. I can actually see the film "heal" when I scratch it with my nail intentionally.
1 day followup: All the bubbles have disappeared. There is still very mild visible distortion that is present with every protector of this type. It doesn't bother me, but screen clarity perfectionists will probably complain. Again, its not a TGSP, but its great for what it is. No other issues.
Really waiting for it to get released in Europe.. So far only America, India as far as I can see. :/
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Really waiting for it to get released in Europe.. So far only America, India as far as I can see. :/
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You could go for the ultimate shield, which is basically the same type of screen protector.
Unlike the spigen it covers the whole front, I mean the area below the fingerprint scanner especially.
I don't know if there is any difference in thickness or coating.
The ultimate shield also has the same "orange skin effect" that was mentioned earlier in this thread, but u will barely see it when using your phone.
How's the scratch resistance on this one? I'm on my last Orzly TGSP, which lets in dust from ever side, I'm looking for alternatives that at least don't scratch.
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How's the scratch resistance on this one? I'm on my last Orzly TGSP, which lets in dust from ever side, I'm looking for alternatives that at least don't scratch.
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After a quick clean an inspection i noticed one single micro scratch. This is since day before original post.
Just installed this today. Haze from the liquid went away within hours and so far so good!
There is an "orange peel effect" and it doesn't feel like glass but those are a given, and expected, so no points off for these two things.
It's much better than any tgsp that I've tried, simply due to the fact that it's edge to edge. I couldn't stand
1. The lack of adhesive on the sides
2. The sides being significantly cut off
The "wet install" allows for you to have a perfect install as well, as you can slide it around and adjust it perfectly, before finally setting it in place.
I'll see how it holds up over time and will update this post if anything unusual happens with it!
I will also try and get some pics soon (if I remember lol)
For those of you with this screen protector, how did you end up aligning it correctly? There's a small amount of space around each cutout and I found with my initial installation that while those were lined up, with the Rugged Armor case installed I had a small gap on the right side.
Amazon's instructions say to install with the case already on but Spigen's does not so thought I'd ask how others got theirs to line up correctly.
I installed one of these tonight. I did it with the Spigen case installed, and centered the protector on that. Waiting for it to cure and lose the bubbles. It didn't look that bad to start and 3 hours later it is looking better.
At this point I would pay a premium for flat glass! I just don't enjoy these phones like I used to without a nice perfect TGSP!
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I installed one of these tonight. I did it with the Spigen case installed, and centered the protector on that. Waiting for it to cure and lose the bubbles. It didn't look that bad to start and 3 hours later it is looking better.
At this point I would pay a premium for flat glass! I just don't enjoy these phones like I used to without a nice perfect TGSP!
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How'd you end up getting rid of the excess water? Did you remove the case after putting on the screen protector?
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How'd you end up getting rid of the excess water? Did you remove the case after putting on the screen protector?
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I removed the case and wiped it down with the cloth. I left it out of the case to dry / cure.
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For those of you with this screen protector, how did you end up aligning it correctly? There's a small amount of space around each cutout and I found with my initial installation that while those were lined up, with the Rugged Armor case installed I had a small gap on the right side.
Amazon's instructions say to install with the case already on but Spigen's does not so thought I'd ask how others got theirs to line up correctly.
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On the Spigen install video at install.spiegen.com for the case friendly S8, they show putting it on with the case on. That's what I did. Spigen calls it full coverage but compatible with Spigen case.
After installing it then removing the case for drying and curing, the bubbles disappeared after about 18 hours, but I have one piece of trash trapped. After putting the case back on, it seems compatible but the film goes out to the border of the Spigen case without touching it, except it barely touches on the bottom. It is a very close fit, I believe putting it on without the case would cause problems with alignment.
Overall not bad, it is easier to align the film with the case on. The touch feel is OK for me.
I was hoping to attach a magnet ring to use a Magsafe finger ring. But the adhesive basically bounced off the back of the case. (cream color for reference). The ring stuck perfectly right after to my Note10+ so it has to be something about the back glass that has a super slick coating. Just wondering if things like magnet rings or stickers etc are basically useless against this mutant super powered anti stick back cover.
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I was hoping to attach a magnet ring to use a Magsafe finger ring. But the adhesive basically bounced off the back of the case. (cream color for reference). The ring stuck perfectly right after to my Note10+ so it has to be something about the back glass that has a super slick coating. Just wondering if things like magnet rings or stickers etc are basically useless against this mutant super powered anti stick back cover.
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If you have a spen it will interfere with it. I used to have a super strong Manget for my holder's and it messed with the Wacom display
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If you have a spen it will interfere with it. I used to have a super strong Manget for my holder's and it messed with the Wacom display
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I never noticed any effect on my Note. That aside is there anything successfully adhered to the back ?
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I never noticed any effect on my Note. That aside is there anything successfully adhered to the back ?
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It creates dead spots in the screen. Instead of adhering it to the phone. Maybe a case and attach one to it.
I used to cut holes in the otter box and adhere my magnet directly to the hard plastic. I got those super strong ball and magnet holders for my tool box car and desk. One magnet for 2 different holders. As well one on my tripod for night shots. But it always made dead spots the pen don't work.
Thats the thing. Im trying to go caseless. Not a fan of the thickness coming from a Note10+ which almost fees like half the girth.
You have to get the magsafe ring that is not magnetic. Then your phone should be okay. There are ones that are compatible with magsafe but they're just metal rings. Those will not affect the s pen or the screen. Otherwise you'll have to put the mag safe sticker on a case rather directly than on the phone.
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You have to get the magsafe ring that is not magnetic. Then your phone should be okay. There are ones that are compatible with magsafe but they're just metal rings. Those will not affect the s pen or the screen. Otherwise you'll have to put the mag safe sticker on a case rather directly than on the phone.
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Thats exactly what I have. My issue is the adhesive. Nothing sticks to the back of this phone. Even duct and gaffer tape act repelled.
Which brand ring and model did you use?
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Which brand ring and model did you use?
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I used a generic one on Amazon called Wanno. It sticks very well on everything else. Just the Ultra 23 that repels everything.
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I used a generic one on Amazon called Wanno. It sticks very well on everything else. Just the Ultra 23 that repels everything.
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Try the ESR halolock 360. Apply hard and put weights on top and give it 10 minutes.