So I was thinking about getting the watch, but I saw this
https://www.neowin.net/news/review-...t-needs-to-hit-the-gym-for-some-massive-gains
It says basically the watch is not good for fitness as it doesn't sync data with apps like goofle fit or so. It says you can't even show your data on phone or similar.
Only sync with strava, but not all data
Has it changed since one year ago? Would you recommend the watch for someone who will use it almost exclusively to fitness? (Count calories, count gym series, runnings....). And obviously want to see it in the phone synchronised
I would also use it for google assistant, google keep, maps....but I haven't found about that...so thinking the watch it's quite useless because of software
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Javi22 said:
So I was thinking about getting the watch, but I saw this
https://www.neowin.net/news/review-...t-needs-to-hit-the-gym-for-some-massive-gains
It says basically the watch is not good for fitness as it doesn't sync data with apps like goofle fit or so. It says you can't even show your data on phone or similar.
Only sync with strava, but not all data
Has it changed since one year ago? Would you recommend the watch for someone who will use it almost exclusively to fitness? (Count calories, count gym series, runnings....). And obviously want to see it in the phone synchronised
I would also use it for google assistant, google keep, maps....but I haven't found about that...so thinking the watch it's quite useless because of software
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I'll have a go answering your question
The Amazfit app has improved since last year, you can see data within the app e.g. step count, sleep quality (for what it's worth), heart rate etc... But that data is tied to the app since there is no web portal that you can access say on a PC.
The sync still remains with Strava only, I found that if you install the MiFit app from the Google Play Store you can sync the watch to that which can then export the data to Google Fit. Though I didn't really find the data in Google Fit to be all that great / useful for it to be worth my while having 3 different apps installed.
Another limitation I've found with the watch is that calorie count is not all day calories. It is some very odd "active" calorie count figure. That is to say, if you wear the watch and sit down all day doing nothing you will not see the calorie count figure increase as Fitbits or Garmin devices since Amazfit have not considered BMR in their calorie counting whatsoever.
If you start an activity or you walk all day your calorie count will increase. I guess you could treat the calorie figure as active calories...personally I was annoyed with it at first but realistically I don't count calorie intake, so why would I worry about calorie expenditure? I just use a watch face that doesn't show calories and forget about the usefulness of that metric.
My use case for the watch is primarily fitness based, always on screen and notifications. I'm happy with the always on screen and notifications. Fitness and general health leaves a lot to be desired though. In my experience the things I've noticed include:
* Sleep tracking is not great, it gets the times correct most nights, but I'm pretty much exclusively in light sleep mode. Maybe the watch is too sensitive or I trash around in my sleep, I don't know. I hardly look at this outside of seeing how many hours sleep I got.
* Calorie count not worth the hassle due to the above
* HR tracking is...well, I'm still not sure. Resting HR can have me a 50 bpm one minute, the next I'm at 90+ bpm while sitting at my desk. Other times it can go hours nailing a pretty good representation of HR as I'd expect. During exercise, don't expect weight training to be anywhere near accurate (this is true for most optical HR sensors), running workouts do have drops where I could be at 150 or 160bpm one second then <120bpm the next but the trend seems to be correct most times.
* GPS might not be as accurate as some other running watching, but does exactly what I want. I've not noticed any major drift or drop outs in GPS, just make sure to wait for the GPS lock before starting your activity.
With all that said it might sound like I dont like the watch. But I think even with these issues I'd buy it again. Mainly because it was cheap (compared to rival products), offers most day to day benefits i wanted (notifications, always on display, several days battery life), it also has GPS and exports to the exercise tool I use.
To try and make the fitness aspect a bit more appealing for me what I've started doing is running with a second hand vivofit 3 in my pocket reading HR from a strap and use the Amazfit for GPS. When I get home I've written a script to replace the Amazfit HR with the Garmin HR and upload that to Strava. Works well, allows me to keep Cadence, GPS info and get a more accurate HR reading. I could use this setup for weight training as well, but realistically I'll never be HR zone training during a weight workout so as long as the Amazfit can upload workout time to Strava I don't care about that data.
Hi guys,
I just got my new Amazfit GTR and noticed strange behavior of heart rate monitor. It shows values even if the device is not on my wrist. I left the device on the table for more than hour and any time I looked on main screen there was heart rate value and it was also changing the values. So it wasn't just last value stuck. I tried to run exercise activity while leaving device on the table and it was showing heart rate as well. Not all the time but sometimes there was value and sometimes not. So is the device faking heart rate values? Is it normal behavior?
It is how PPG sensors work, they use the reflected light to estimate the number of beats. Search the internet for more info.
Well, I have another watch with PPG sensor but they don't show nothing when they are not on wrist.
So it will probably not be about sensor type. In this case they for example report my rest heart rate during the night even if they lay next to me on the table so the values will be completely faked.
The sensor works that way, but other devices may use *other* sensors to disable the reading when they detect the watch isn't being used, the accelerometer for instance.
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lfom said:
The sensor works that way, but other devices may use *other* sensors to disable the reading when they detect the watch isn't being used, the accelerometer for instance.
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HEyy,
- Also got 2 other product with the same comportment `` Fitbit Charge Hr ´´ and `` Fitbit Blaze ´´ , both detect when they are not in the wrist. Why doen's GTR do the same?
- Also both got more accuracy in Heart rate measurments...Because they are doing it consistently. With Amazfit GTR i only can program it to do it 1min in 1min. Already change it with Notify & Fitness. nothing seems to change....
- Another outburst from my side : heart rate scale doen't save scores higher than 180 BTM !
Are some of them just software issues ?
Regards to all
The heart beat sensor on the GTR is utter garbage. It does indeed fake heart beat results. Also the sleep analysis functionality is totally broken.
Just got my GTR and the heart rate monitoring is way off. Always some 20 to 35 Beats above the real one. As I have some hair I tried it in my finger and in my belly with the same wrong results. The firmware version is 1.3.4.19 which was updated immediately after first turn on. In contrast the free Android app I use is pretty accurate. I will still test the GPS.
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Just got my GTR and the heart rate monitoring is way off. Always some 20 to 35 Beats above the real one. As I have some hair I tried it in my finger and in my belly with the same wrong results. The firmware version is 1.3.4.19 which was updated immediately after first turn on. In contrast the free Android app I use is pretty accurate. I will still test the GPS.
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I returned the GTR and got another one from another vendor and it has the same problem. I can now say that the heart rate monitoring in the GTR is useless, just a boring toy.
Amazfit admits that the heart rate monitor is "prone to inaccuracies" in its faq: https://support.amazfit.com/us/faq/839
As the heart rate sensor is basically a pulse oximeter which monitors the perfusion of blood to the dermis, it’s prone to inaccuracies.That’s because skin perfusion — a measure of how much blood flows through your skin-varies significantly from person to another. Especially the ones who have dark skin, hairy wrists, tattoo, and scar.
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Amazfit admits that the heart rate monitor is "prone to inaccuracies" in its faq: https://support.amazfit.com/us/faq/839
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Oddly enough I have found the heart rate monitor to be remakably accurate if worn correctly and over the range 60-110. A few moments ago I confirmed previous results and while the watch showed 91 bpm a simultaneous ECG showed 90 bpm. The problem I have with the HR monitor is that it seems, when the cpu is stressed, to produce crazy results. To get around this I run exercise from the phone and get sensible results from the HR monitor. I might add that I was cooling down after exercise!
Well seems I am testing today. Had the watch about 2 days. I am guessing the watch does NOT show the current temperature? Like that matters. The GPS took about 45-60 seconds to connect, as others had. Seem to do faster NOT on wrist. Now my heart-rate monitor works really good. Tested it and I when I got 86 the watch got 85. did it again I got 84 thee watch got 85. Now I did take it off put it on the rubber mat and it kept going up to about 96 lol Put on my keyboard( light on top of keys) it went down to 40. Yet on my wrist works really good.
So, I'm interested in a smartwatch mostly for fitness tracking, but my problem is sweat resistance.
I want to buy the stratos but I have heard the new t rex can also fitness track, and be washed easily since it's durable bit. can it sync with Strava though?
My question is which one? Amazfit stratos or T rex? Is the stratos waterproof? How to clean it?
I'm also going to be in the military, should I just buy a g shock apart from a smartwatch or the t rex can do the job?
I want to get the best watch I can.
And if the stratos, does the stratos 3 worth the 50$ more than the 2?
So many questions, wanted to cover them all.
Would love to get some help. Thanks!
Leave out the Stratos 3. Distance, speed and hearth rate are all bad. Speed is very (very very) slow to adjust to your actual speed and the heart rate of my couch is 71 BPM. Heart beat indicates a constant 118Bpm when i'm not wearing it. It won't pair with a Bluetooth 4.0 heart rate belt (and doesn't support ANT+)
However GPS fix is fast and the time is spot on
Fitbits and fitness-tracking devices banned for deployed troops
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...n-geolocation-restricted-for-deployed-troops/
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Don't recommend to buy any of Amazfit smart watch. Better is to choose Samsung's smart watch:
1. Much more better devices
2. Have all features and options which is mentioned, for example: Verge from Amazfit voice assistant is not support all regions and countries, so you will spend money without all features which is in specifications. Samsung giving all what is mentioned in specifications. Believe me to buy Amazfit smart watch is worst decision.
3. Battery of Samsung is related to Amazfit smart watches, also Samsung doing much less software mistakes, bugs as Amazfit.
4. Samsung Health app for Android is much more better as Amazfit. Samsung have even calories counting from wood which you eating, Amazfit counting only by yours activity.
I bought Verge from 2019 February and I understand that I did very big mistake. I thought to buy new Xioami smartphone, but after wearing of Amazfit Verge watch, I understand I have to run away from this company as faster as I can. Device is without advertised features, every update battery draining much more faster as was first day without update. Every update doing mistakes and bugs. Support is terrible. I don't recommend to buy any of watches from Amazfit. By the way I bought now Samsung smartphone in which health app is very impressive, compare to Samsung app Amazfit app is like game for children very poor.
T-Rex should be a good option. I've been using Amazfit watches for a while now, I've not faced any issues. People have had gps issues, but t-rex seems to have solved them. It's very durable and battery life will be much better than any samsung or android wear watches. My bip and gtr has never let me down.
Although you might want to check first if you're allowed smart watches in the military.
I have the stratos 3 and it measurements it took are very very very close to my Bryton cycling computer, paired with heart rate monitor.
You have to wear it reasonably tight to get a good readings.
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T-Rex should be a good option. I've been using Amazfit watches for a while now, I've not faced any issues. People have had gps issues, but t-rex seems to have solved them. It's very durable and battery life will be much better than any samsung or android wear watches. My bip and gtr has never let me down.
Although you might want to check first if you're allowed smart watches in the military.
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If you don't see it, it doesn't mean there are not any issues. With Verge was a lot of issues with double tap, weather (twice chines named cities), incorrect sleep, steps tracking and ect. Just one good things is heartrate measure, which is very good in this device. Amazfit support is like talking with wall or they are dumb or just pretending like they are, always asking one, answering different answers. I live in Europe and still havn't many features like: Voice assistant, payment over watch and ect. Which was written and now is advertising as feature in this model. Ran one year I still did not got features which was promised or mentioned from this manufacturer. MY ADVICE: STAY AWAY FROM AMAZFIT. Samsung is much more better, android watches too. You can do in it watch faces which you want, costume it how do you want, much more accurate and ect. Samsung doing bugs even less compare with this China manufacturer. Don't lie to people. Amazfit devices is like crap of ****. Sorry for my language.
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If you don't see it, it doesn't mean there are not any issues. With Verge was a lot of issues with double tap, weather (twice chines named cities), incorrect sleep, steps tracking and ect. Just one good things is heartrate measure, which is very good in this device. Amazfit support is like talking with wall or they are dumb or just pretending like they are, always asking one, answering different answers. I live in Europe and still havn't many features like: Voice assistant, payment over watch and ect. Which was written and now is advertising as feature in this model. Ran one year I still did not got features which was promised or mentioned from this manufacturer. MY ADVICE: STAY AWAY FROM AMAZFIT. Samsung is much more better, android watches too. You can do in it watch faces which you want, costume it how do you want, much more accurate and ect. Samsung doing bugs even less compare with this China manufacturer. Don't lie to people. Amazfit devices is like crap of ****. Sorry for my language.
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While you are right on your part. No samsung or android watch gives weeks of battery life. I cant afford to keep charging my watch everyday. Charging my phone everyday is already a hassle.
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While you are right on your part. No samsung or android watch gives weeks of battery life. I cant afford to keep charging my watch everyday. Charging my phone everyday is already a hassle.
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Which smart watches from Samsung need to charge everyday?
Samsung Watch Active 2 - https://www.samsung.com/uk/wearables/galaxy-watch-active2-4g/SM-R825FSKABTU/ (Typical Usage Time Over 60 Hours - it's more as 2 days)
Amazfit Stratos 3 - https://en.amazfit.com/stratos-3.html (Smart mode: 7 days )
What is the differnet between these times? Samsung have 4G connection, that's mean that you can go to city without phone and stay tuned into call. Amazfit havn't (in specification is not mentioned 4G), 4G so that's why battery is some days staying longest without charge.
Samsung most watches can be without charge with 5 days, the same as Amazfit. I talking about normal usage without limitation of features activated.
Verge Amazfit saying can be 5 days too, but I have to charge it every 2 - 3 days. So battery is not so good as saying Amazfit. U did not understand me. Most Android watches have much more features as Amazfit even with 4G need to charge often, but if 4G is not available battery without charge can be much more as Amazfit some watches. But quality of Samsung and most Android watches is much more better as this Chinese crap
By the way Amazfit have model with 4G too, battery need to charge more as Samsung Active 2 as I know can be alive about one day. So don't write nonsenses here that Amazfit is better, it's a crap of sh.. not a watch included worst support ever, a lot of bugs and issues in it. STAY AWAY FROM AmAZFIT BELEIVE ME. mY NEXT WATCH WILL BE Samsung, I know that as a phone too.
I've used a Galaxy S9+ paired with a Gear Sport and eventually switched to the Xiaomi Mi 9 Lite paired with the smaller Amazfit GTR. I have seen comparable performance with the following exceptions: Gear Sport has NFC, GTR doesn't, S9+ has wireless charging, Mi 9 Lite doesn't. Battery life is tremendously better on both the Mi 9 Lite and GTR. I have both Samsung devices locked away and really don't have a desire to go back to them anytime soon.
The short answer? Rather than broad dismissal of an entire brand, your mileage may vary. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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T-Rex should be a good option. I've been using Amazfit watches for a while now, I've not faced any issues. People have had gps issues, but t-rex seems to have solved them. It's very durable and battery life will be much better than any samsung or android wear watches. My bip and gtr has never let me down.
Although you might want to check first if you're allowed smart watches in the military.
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Do you actually have a T-Rex? I had 3 Amazfit smartwatches: pace, stratos 2, and now a GTR, but the GTR's GPS is terrible, take too long to fix, and its tracking is awful. Now I'm almost buying a T-Rex, but I fear the GPS could have the same GTR problem. Does anybody actually HAVE a T-Rex??
I think the gtr has a design flaw for the GPS? My stratos 3 cets lock in under 10 seconds, pace and bio were alot slower. Would hope the trex is the same
T-Rex looks like having the same components as GTR so I would wait. I can definitely recommend the Stratos 3, the only other watch I would consider is a Garmin Fenix but costs 3x more...
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Do you actually have a T-Rex? I had 3 Amazfit smartwatches: pace, stratos 2, and now a GTR, but the GTR's GPS is terrible, take too long to fix, and its tracking is awful. Now I'm almost buying a T-Rex, but I fear the GPS could have the same GTR problem. Does anybody actually HAVE a T-Rex??
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Mine just arrived today. I got it to replace the more dainty 42mm GTR (gave it to my wife). The GTR only took a few seconds (10-15 seconds max) to get a gps fix before running. It has also been pretty reliable in tracking location. If I can remember I'll chime in here in about a week or so to report on whether the T-Rex experience is comparable or better (or, hopefully not, worse).
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Mine just arrived today. I got it to replace the more dainty 42mm GTR (gave it to my wife). The GTR only took a few seconds (10-15 seconds max) to get a gps fix before running. It has also been pretty reliable in tracking location. If I can remember I'll chime in here in about a week or so to report on whether the T-Rex experience is comparable or better (or, hopefully not, worse).
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Is there any update? What do you think so far?
My stratos 3 seems to have died after just 4 months I think I have had it, not impressed last Amazfit product I will buy
People. don't buy at all Amazfit products at all. Support is weak, updates is weak. If they mentioning in trailer of products some feature it doesn't meant that you will get it. So run away from this china company fast and forward. If you want something not expensive, but good. Buy Samsung smartphones, smart watch. They are really much more better, with normal battery life. Also support is not weak as Amazfit, in my national language, I believe is in yours too. So Amazfit is my opinion just fake company which product quality for me wasn't good. I just have one year watch and I had to bring it to service to fix charger and band which broken
Don't buy Stratos (any)
First Stratos 2 bought Mar. 2019. Worked fine one year with small manageable hiccups caused by software issues ... till its battery exploded (literally) damaging case, connectors and screen. Watch was "molded" to charging pod - source of heat was inside the watch, so I assume it was faulty battery. I was lucky as it happened during charging. I initially thought that I was not careful enough with the watch (I used it for swimming - Amazfit is not so water resistant as they claim in marketing materials).
I bought Stratos 3 Mar. 2020 (one year after first one). After 3 weeks (and April Amazfit firmware update) the GPS in the watch is dead. No possibility to fix position in spite of numerous restarts and GPS combination settings. This makes it almost useless for outdoor activities. Watch has no physical damage, this time no swimming. I have enough. This is the last time I purchase anything from Amazfit - post sales support is beyond hope. Several tickets opened. No response or just information that they are working on it (generic) - I just need confirmation whether it is software bug in the new firmware or hardware issues with watch (again). Auto response refers to Chinese New Year break (sic! in April).
I know once you end up on this forum you have already purchased Amazfit or found similar issues with the product. This means that it is too late for any warnings. But if you could spread the news wider I hope your colleagues or friends avoid similar mistake. If you really think about HUAMI use anything that passes real quality control like Mi brand (? so far no similar issues with it). If you want any serious smart watch product I recommend going to any other producer. Thanks!
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I have enjoyed the watch. Contrary to the extreme criticisms above, I've had great success using the GPS, heart rate monitor, sleep tracking, and exercise tracking. I only take the watch off to charge it and have worn it in the shower since I received it. If the T-Rex experience is normally bad, I guess mine is an anomaly.
I fully understand that China is taking a hit related to things other than tech, but I cannot hate on this watch. The risk would definitely be support (especially if you don't live in China), but just consider that risk before you buy.
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Oh, yeah. Probably the biggest thing that concerned me was that I could not find an aftermarket watch band to fit it, and the manufacturer doesn't sell them separately. I just found one aftermarket band on Amazon, but the shipping has a ridiculous delay.
With HR monitoring on and using GPS several times a week (jogging), my battery lasts about two weeks. I would imagine that if I were a little less active and turned off the constant monitoring I would probably get around three weeks on a charge.
I like wrote before - I did. At last. Finally. My Verge was broken, so I got money back. I decided to buy Samsung, because I have Samsung smartphone and I did not wanted to do the same mistake again. Yes of course Amazfit full in shop in my region devices. But Amazfit is sh.., not a good devices company. Which promising, but not giving. Just words. I bought Samsung Active2 smartwatch. So why it? Verge could be without charger about 2-3 days. After some updates. Active 2 about 2 days. That's maybe one and last good thing in Amazfit verge. All others good things is only on Samsung Active 2: Bixby (working in my region very well. Alexa after one year still wasn't in my Verge. Shame to Amazfit). Apps unlimited probably full shop, Verge even haven't calendar widget in Verge. I can customize my device as I want: change arrow of clock, background, widget and many more. Display is amazing, sunset day it's not problem to me. Stress, heart rate, automatic detecting of my activity like sport (I don't have to activate manually that, Samsung automatic understand when I running, walking and etc.). 24 hours per day sleep tracking, yes that doing Samsung Active 2 and that doing these days very well. Verge did a lot of incorrect trackings, did only at night. Need more? I can swim with my watch now yes it have 5TM. Hear rate is tracking every second, not as every minutes as doing Verge. Aliumin frames, not f...ed plastic. Looks great and is one of the best smartwatch at all probably. My advice RUN FROM AMAZFIT, XIAOMI at all. Chinese products is worst as many others companies. Only maybe Huawei doing something good. All others included Amazfit is crap of s.h.i.t. My advice - throw idea to buy it products at all. Believe me you will be much more happy with others companies smart watch as with Amaz****
p.s. Samsung Health is real health app. Amazfit - is parody of that and very bad parody. Amazfit is one of the worst company which product I had.