Hi guys, I'm coming from a display broken S7 edge
Got this phone yesterday, so far it has been a nice experience
for the ones who already rooted, is worth rooting? Worth changing stock ROM? Seems stable to me but I wanna know if it really improves with root and another ROM.
also, does this have a step counter?
Thanks in advance
Depends on personal user experience...some may prefer stock over anything...but in case of poco performance is better in miui compared to custom rom...in terms of features, 60 fps video can be enabled on custom rom and not on stock miui...
It depends on your use case i suppose. Even if you were to use MIUI, you might want root for a system level adblocker. If you are not using any apps that have ads in the first place, and while xposed is not supported under pie, and you have no need of things like Magisk (Youtube adblocking, Gapps Force Doze, ANX Camera...), then i suppose you don't have a great need of root.
Well, atleast until the Whatapp ads happen. They are coming
Thank you both for your answers, ads are really annoying to me. Don't know if there would be any solution without the need to root. This would've the first time I haven't rooted my personal phone, but the ads thibg surely matters a lot
The fact that you are asking if it's worth rooting tells me that you are better off not rooting as your usage does not need root. For you probably is better to stay stock and non rooted.
I have been rooting my device for a long time. First it was SuperSu and now Magisk. At the beginning, I used to root just to mess with the device. Then I was used to Titanium backup and a few rooted apps. With the release of Magisk, rooting was a must for me for amazing modules like Viper FX, systemless busybox, fonts etc. Just a few days ago, I thought of giving a try without root to see how important it is in my life. So I vlean flashed stock rom and locked BL. Now after a couple of days usage without root, I find my device more responsive and fluid than it was with Magisk (because of the way Magisk works). I definitely miss ViperFX, sysyemless fonts etc. But it's not like I can't live without it. Most importantly, Android has come a long way. There are a lot of apps getting released everyday which are decreasing the needs of rooting. And some apps even work with ADB access. Of course, this is my personal opinion. Your experience may vary.
Try NetGuard for blocking ads without root
willro14 said:
Thank you both for your answers, ads are really annoying to me. Don't know if there would be any solution without the need to root. This would've the first time I haven't rooted my personal phone, but the ads thibg surely matters a lot
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NetGuard is a firewall which can run even on non-rooted phones and can block any incoming or outgoing connection request from the phone on a per app / per domain basis.
I have been using NetGuard since day 1 on my poco and it's been an amazing experience! Zero ads but what's even more important to me - a sense of privacy since I block most of the outgoing MIUI analytics and tracking connection requests.
Also, the app is free but I have got the paid version for extra features as well as supporting the dev.
You can try out the app from either the f-droid build (https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.netguard/) or GitHub (https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard). There was also a discussion page right here on XDA, if you want to check out.
willro14 said:
Thank you both for your answers, ads are really annoying to me. Don't know if there would be any solution without the need to root. This would've the first time I haven't rooted my personal phone, but the ads thibg surely matters a lot[/QUOTE
Use adguard app, It's been the best for me. I installed it on the day 1 when I got this phone. Infact installing YouTube vanced and adguard is the first thing I do in a new phone.
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Are there any dedicated ad-blocked apps for the shield? I have youtube and spotify modded on my android phone but I don't like the experience of android on the shield, I'd rather keep the stock android for the shield.
Please halp
I don't think so. The only decent Adblocker I know of would be AdAway. Alas you have to be root to use it though, and even then it doesn't really seem to do anything on Android TV. Well the few times I tried it anyway, and rooting has other disadvantages later on when it comes to being able to updating.
It may well be a better idea to try and sideload these modded Apps you spoke of onto your Shield. Granted it might not fully work assuming the TV version isn't symbiotic with the the Phablet version. But, it could work, and if it does, it might be a simpler work'round for you.
Adguard works really well on my end,it took a bit of fiddling but I managed to get it running smoothly.
The main thing needed to prevent it from being automatically closed is to make sure to get out of the app in an unconventional way like Alt-Tab'ing out to another app that was open.
After that one time,it has stayed true to always block the most ads compared to just using an adblocking DNS and can even have custom filters!
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Adguard works really well on my end,it took a bit of fiddling but I managed to get it running smoothly.
The main thing needed to prevent it from being automatically closed is to make sure to get out of the app in an unconventional way like Alt-Tab'ing out to another app that was open.
After that one time,it has stayed true to always block the most ads compared to just using an adblocking DNS and can even have custom filters!
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Can you share your settings/set-up process please?!
Without root, Adguard. With root, Adaway
Adhell didn't work...tried
Even after a lot of searching, i'm not sure about all the apps that don't work with root. I want to know if there is anything important. I've looked at some lists, but i haven't seen any new ones.
I personally don't really care about banking apps too much, i can survive off of the website version, but some things that are app only like snapchat, i'd like to keep.
I understand that there are bypasses for different root detection methods, how good is the safteynet bypasses right now?
I'm getting the oneplus 5, and considering whether to root on it or not, my main reason would be greenify, and adblocking, I get that you can do good adblocking without root now, i'm guessing the root solutions are still better. I probably won't be installing custom roms atleast soon, maybe later. I'll obviously get a bunch of tweaks if i get root, but those are just a bonus to me, (Also anyone know anything that can kinda auto adjust your volume?). Oneplus is pretty open so i'd be pretty happy without root,
I just want to know whether the apps i'll lose is worth it.
Hi all,
I'm hesitating to unlock my bootloader so I can install Pixel Experience ROM.
The corresponding thread mentions what works, but what doesn't?
Additionally, can I still use my banking applications with unlocked BL and non-stock ROM?
You can still use your bank applications w/ an unlocked BL and any, if not all, non-stock ROMs. Used my banking apps on Pixel Experience no problem, same goes for Evolution X which I'm trying out right now.
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Hi all,
I'm hesitating to unlock my bootloader so I can install Pixel Experience ROM.
The corresponding thread mentions what works, but what doesn't?
Additionally, can I still use my banking applications with unlocked BL and non-stock ROM?
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You can still use your bank applications w/ an unlocked BL and any, if not all, non-stock ROMs. Used my banking apps on Pixel Experience no problem, same goes for Evolution X which I'm trying out right now.
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So to be clear: the only thing I may not do, is to root it. That won't be an issue as I don't need a rooted.phone anyway.
I have a unlocked BL and rooted PE ROM and I can use my banking apps perfectly.
It depends on the detection methods employed by the apps.
I use Magisk with hide module along with Play Services permission trick.
Apps I use: ICICI , Kotak, Google Pay
I'm running rooted and they work without needing to do any workarounds. But since you're not rooting, you don't even need to worry about it.
jvdv360 said:
So to be clear: the only thing I may not do, is to root it. That won't be an issue as I don't need a rooted.phone anyway.
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jvdv360 said:
Hi all,
I'm hesitating to unlock my bootloader so I can install Pixel Experience ROM.
The corresponding thread mentions what works, but what doesn't?
Additionally, can I still use my banking applications with unlocked BL and non-stock ROM?
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Not worth it
1. Battery life worse then miui
2. If you plan to use smartwatch or any bluetooth connection device expect resseting the phone before using. Known bug. Random disconnects
3. Some laggs when playing games - mobile legends ..pubg et .
4. Worse wifi/radio signal by far
This are just few to mention. Based on my own extensive usage.
I am on miui and i will not be turning back. Rooted with vanced youtube and google cam
... Happy chappy
Hunteres said:
Not worth it
1. Battery life worse then miui
2. If you plan to use smartwatch or any bluetooth connection device expect resseting the phone before using. Known bug. Random disconnects
3. Some laggs when playing games - mobile legends ..pubg et .
4. Worse wifi/radio signal by far
This are just few to mention. Based on my own extensive usage.
I am on miui and i will not be turning back. Rooted with vanced youtube and google cam
... Happy chappy
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm already a while out of the custom rom scene (last time my sony phone was on Android 4.0...). Even at that time mostly battery life and connectivity issues were the most common ones.
Reason I want to potentially move to a custom rom, are the regular security updates when on aosp.
jvdv360 said:
Hi all,
I'm hesitating to unlock my bootloader so I can install Pixel Experience ROM.
The corresponding thread mentions what works, but what doesn't?
Additionally, can I still use my banking applications with unlocked BL and non-stock ROM?
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jvdv360 said:
Thanks for the feedback. I'm already a while out of the custom rom scene (last time my sony phone was on Android 4.0...). Even at that time mostly battery life and connectivity issues were the most common ones.
Reason I want to potentially move to a custom rom, are the regular security updates when on aosp.
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Poco got may 2019 security update....miui is not being neglected. Look its your call at the end of the day. Best of luck
There are pros and cons of using Pixel Experience or any other AOSP based custom ROMs for that matter. But since you have asked for the cons only, here are a few (according to me);
1. Battery life is not as good as MIUI.
2. IR face unlock. Although AOSP roms have google face unlock, it's noway as accurate and secure as MIUI face unlock.
3. While using custom ROMs, you will always feel like there is a gap in between hardware and software as if the ROMs are not using the full potential of the device and can't blend in with the hardware.
4. A lot of visual bugs here and there.
5. Charging speed gets slow even if you browse internet for 5-10 minutes whereas on MIUI, device gets charged fast even after an intensive game play for 30 minutes.
6. Let's face the truth. Even though a lot of users (including me) hate MIUI for ads and bloatwares, but deep down inside we all know that no AOSP based custom ROMs are as stable and reliable as MIUI, as of now.
That being said, if you have time, patience and data, I would suggest you to try out new things yourself rather than relying on other's feedback. Different people have different opinions.
thevietmonk said:
You can still use your bank applications w/ an unlocked BL and any, if not all, non-stock ROMs. Used my banking apps on Pixel Experience no problem, same goes for Evolution X which I'm trying out right now.
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Please tell me how to use gpay and teams.
I have tried everything.......magisk mask....safety net check is passing but gpay finds that device is rooted.....kindly help
djraval said:
I have a unlocked BL and rooted PE ROM and I can use my banking apps perfectly.
It depends on the detection methods employed by the apps.
I use Magisk with hide module along with Play Services permission trick.
Apps I use: ICICI , Kotak, Google Pay
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Please teach me the trick.....9566823733....wtsap no.....kindly help
To all those that have rooted your Galaxy tab S6's. Have you found any problems that make you wish you hadn't rooted? I'm getting one soon and am planning to root it, mostly for ViperFX but also the utility and to match with my rooted phone. They always warn for things not working, like OTA or KNOX or Bixby e.t.c.
Please tell us if you'd had any issues.
I have my tab rooted for adaway and root apps.
Surely if you root, you will trip Knox and lose the option to get official software updates. .
I used to hate Knox. It was the reason that I rooted my previous galaxy tablet.
But now I find the secure folder is quite handy. The stock rom is stable and reasonably smooth. I don't think that I need to root tab s6.
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My previous tablet Tab A 10.1 with S pen and 3 GB Ram was slow, so I rooted it and got rid of all the bloatware. It felt faster for awhile until I bought the Tab S6. There's no need for root. The Tab S6's Snapdragon 855 and 6 GB of ram is a beast even with the four bloatware apps.
I mainly use the tablet to watch videos and surf the web. I might play some games but nothing too crazy. The only reason I would root my tablet is if Pokemon Go was scaled correctly to the 2560 x 1600 screen resolution. I would spoof with a tablet. My phone already does it better.
I've not found any reason not to root, but not many reason to root either - I just want more control and to have TWRP . I'll never use my Tablet for things like S-Pay, so losing them means nothing -
The only thing I'm disappointed to lose is Secure Folder, but I can accept that and hopefully in the future there will be a module or something to get it working again. There's not really anything else I've missed since rooting.
Overall, the ability to run adaway and Vanced has definitely been worth losing Secure Folder. I've seen a few people mention Viper4Android, but I haven't researched it much or installed it, the quad AKG-tuned speakers in the Tab S6 are great so I'm unsure what the benefit would be.
I've not noticed any problems since rooting except a few random reboots - Knox obviously doesn't work anymore, but it isn't causing any issues - Bixby works fine. OTA will no longer be available I assume? But should be able to use Odin to flash should I ever need/want one.
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I've not found any reason not to root, but not many reason to root either - I just want more control and to have TWRP . I'll never use my Tablet for things like S-Pay, so losing them means nothing -
The only thing I'm disappointed to lose is Secure Folder, but I can accept that and hopefully in the future there will be a module or something to get it working again. There's not really anything else I've missed since rooting.
Overall, the ability to run adaway and Vanced has definitely been worth losing Secure Folder. I've seen a few people mention Viper4Android, but I haven't researched it much or installed it, the quad AKG-tuned speakers in the Tab S6 are great so I'm unsure what the benefit would be.
I've not noticed any problems since rooting except a few random reboots - Knox obviously doesn't work anymore, but it isn't causing any issues - Bixby works fine. OTA will no longer be available I assume? But should be able to use Odin to flash should I ever need/want one.
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Secure Folder is for hiding stuff you don't want people to see if you let them use you tablet.
Once rooted, you lose OTA updates. If you want to update your tablet, you have to flash stock firmware then root it again.
The times and the ROMs have changed, means there are less reasons to root compared to some years before. We have a system wide dark mode even in some apps, ads can be blocked via private DNS, clock can be centered via GoodLock and all without root. Besides we can expect two major android updates on tab s6. So I`ll wait with rooting ... . I just rooted my s8 after two years, which is petty unusual for me to wait this long but there were no reasons like I just wrote. But since there will be no android Q for the s8, I'm sure there will be custom ROMs with Q sooner or later.
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Now have a working Secure Folder with root - So there's 0 reasons not to root for me personally.
Daniel Hjelvik said:
I have my tab rooted for adaway and root apps.
Surely if you root, you will trip Knox and lose the option to get official software updates. .
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Why not just use the Private DNS option in network settings, with an adblocking DNS solution like AdGuard, or even NextDNS?
Exactly!
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I'm expecting my 10T to arrive shortly (upgrading from the OP5). In the past I've always rooted my phone, with AdAway and the ability to do full app + data backups being the main things I still use root for.
With the 10T I'm not sure I can be bothered with the extra hassle of being rooted (potential issues during upgrade, potential for GPay and the like to stop working).
It's been so long since I've had to migrate to a new phone, I've no idea how good the data transfer is between phones (specifically app saved data that the app won't export/save to the cloud) - does anyone have any experience of these tools?
One of the issues with potentially wanting to root later is wiping everything to unlock the bootloader. Are there any issues with unlocking this straight away, but not rooting? Does having an unlocked bootloader cause certain ( eg banking etc) apps to not work or is there zero issues with doing this?
Most people usually just unlock and don't root for that reason. There's no downfall to doing that, benefit is u will already have it unlocked if u want to root later.
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I'm expecting my 10T to arrive shortly (upgrading from the OP5). In the past I've always rooted my phone, with AdAway and the ability to do full app + data backups being the main things I still use root for.
With the 10T I'm not sure I can be bothered with the extra hassle of being rooted (potential issues during upgrade, potential for GPay and the like to stop working).
It's been so long since I've had to migrate to a new phone, I've no idea how good the data transfer is between phones (specifically app saved data that the app won't export/save to the cloud) - does anyone have any experience of these tools?
One of the issues with potentially wanting to root later is wiping everything to unlock the bootloader. Are there any issues with unlocking this straight away, but not rooting? Does having an unlocked bootloader cause certain ( eg banking etc) apps to not work or is there zero issues with doing this?
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For data switching, there are things built in OnePlus. Rooting and unlocking BL is perfectly normal as i am one of those users of op10t fully rooted. Having said that, some users have reported a few banking apps detecting root and causing issues. For me, i haven't faced it.
For the other points which you have mentioned, I use gpay, upgrade software (there are ways and means to do everything and you need to learn, adapt).
The most primary purpose for me to root, unlock, remains custom ROMs which is a complete negative at this moment - thanks mainly to OP, changes in stock Android etc. Still I prefer to stay rooted, if that answers your question
Thanks guys.
Unlocked it will be.
I don't doubt there will always be ways round things, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra effort for me personally.
Gpay and banking apps should work fine, maybe you only need to flash Universal Safety Net Fix. But if you want to watch netflix or any other streaming services it won't work.
Yes, unlocking the bootloader is a good start on XDA!
But, as mentioned Netflix, etc. will not work...
So reading a bit more, it sounds like unlocking the bootloader (and nothing else) will fail cts profile match.
Does failing CTS mean Google Wallet will not work?