To all those that have rooted your Galaxy tab S6's. Have you found any problems that make you wish you hadn't rooted? I'm getting one soon and am planning to root it, mostly for ViperFX but also the utility and to match with my rooted phone. They always warn for things not working, like OTA or KNOX or Bixby e.t.c.
Please tell us if you'd had any issues.
I have my tab rooted for adaway and root apps.
Surely if you root, you will trip Knox and lose the option to get official software updates. .
I used to hate Knox. It was the reason that I rooted my previous galaxy tablet.
But now I find the secure folder is quite handy. The stock rom is stable and reasonably smooth. I don't think that I need to root tab s6.
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My previous tablet Tab A 10.1 with S pen and 3 GB Ram was slow, so I rooted it and got rid of all the bloatware. It felt faster for awhile until I bought the Tab S6. There's no need for root. The Tab S6's Snapdragon 855 and 6 GB of ram is a beast even with the four bloatware apps.
I mainly use the tablet to watch videos and surf the web. I might play some games but nothing too crazy. The only reason I would root my tablet is if Pokemon Go was scaled correctly to the 2560 x 1600 screen resolution. I would spoof with a tablet. My phone already does it better.
I've not found any reason not to root, but not many reason to root either - I just want more control and to have TWRP . I'll never use my Tablet for things like S-Pay, so losing them means nothing -
The only thing I'm disappointed to lose is Secure Folder, but I can accept that and hopefully in the future there will be a module or something to get it working again. There's not really anything else I've missed since rooting.
Overall, the ability to run adaway and Vanced has definitely been worth losing Secure Folder. I've seen a few people mention Viper4Android, but I haven't researched it much or installed it, the quad AKG-tuned speakers in the Tab S6 are great so I'm unsure what the benefit would be.
I've not noticed any problems since rooting except a few random reboots - Knox obviously doesn't work anymore, but it isn't causing any issues - Bixby works fine. OTA will no longer be available I assume? But should be able to use Odin to flash should I ever need/want one.
bartleby999 said:
I've not found any reason not to root, but not many reason to root either - I just want more control and to have TWRP . I'll never use my Tablet for things like S-Pay, so losing them means nothing -
The only thing I'm disappointed to lose is Secure Folder, but I can accept that and hopefully in the future there will be a module or something to get it working again. There's not really anything else I've missed since rooting.
Overall, the ability to run adaway and Vanced has definitely been worth losing Secure Folder. I've seen a few people mention Viper4Android, but I haven't researched it much or installed it, the quad AKG-tuned speakers in the Tab S6 are great so I'm unsure what the benefit would be.
I've not noticed any problems since rooting except a few random reboots - Knox obviously doesn't work anymore, but it isn't causing any issues - Bixby works fine. OTA will no longer be available I assume? But should be able to use Odin to flash should I ever need/want one.
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Secure Folder is for hiding stuff you don't want people to see if you let them use you tablet.
Once rooted, you lose OTA updates. If you want to update your tablet, you have to flash stock firmware then root it again.
The times and the ROMs have changed, means there are less reasons to root compared to some years before. We have a system wide dark mode even in some apps, ads can be blocked via private DNS, clock can be centered via GoodLock and all without root. Besides we can expect two major android updates on tab s6. So I`ll wait with rooting ... . I just rooted my s8 after two years, which is petty unusual for me to wait this long but there were no reasons like I just wrote. But since there will be no android Q for the s8, I'm sure there will be custom ROMs with Q sooner or later.
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Now have a working Secure Folder with root - So there's 0 reasons not to root for me personally.
Daniel Hjelvik said:
I have my tab rooted for adaway and root apps.
Surely if you root, you will trip Knox and lose the option to get official software updates. .
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Why not just use the Private DNS option in network settings, with an adblocking DNS solution like AdGuard, or even NextDNS?
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Since this is brand new device and most of us were hoping for it to have Marshmallow (I know I was) we are lucky that we can root because there are super folks on XDA. I personally root so I can change permissions for stuff (like why does my calculator app need access to my contacts) and minimize apps which boot at startup without my permission; something that Marshmallow promises to correct. That being said apps sometimes don't like that we root the phone. So I was wondering what apps (stock included) that everyone has come across not working once your phone was rooted. If we see what's an issue there might be a solution out there. Last I heard Android M won't be out for our phone till some time in 2016
Android pay is all I know
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Even after a lot of searching, i'm not sure about all the apps that don't work with root. I want to know if there is anything important. I've looked at some lists, but i haven't seen any new ones.
I personally don't really care about banking apps too much, i can survive off of the website version, but some things that are app only like snapchat, i'd like to keep.
I understand that there are bypasses for different root detection methods, how good is the safteynet bypasses right now?
I'm getting the oneplus 5, and considering whether to root on it or not, my main reason would be greenify, and adblocking, I get that you can do good adblocking without root now, i'm guessing the root solutions are still better. I probably won't be installing custom roms atleast soon, maybe later. I'll obviously get a bunch of tweaks if i get root, but those are just a bonus to me, (Also anyone know anything that can kinda auto adjust your volume?). Oneplus is pretty open so i'd be pretty happy without root,
I just want to know whether the apps i'll lose is worth it.
Hi guys, I'm coming from a display broken S7 edge
Got this phone yesterday, so far it has been a nice experience
for the ones who already rooted, is worth rooting? Worth changing stock ROM? Seems stable to me but I wanna know if it really improves with root and another ROM.
also, does this have a step counter?
Thanks in advance
Depends on personal user experience...some may prefer stock over anything...but in case of poco performance is better in miui compared to custom rom...in terms of features, 60 fps video can be enabled on custom rom and not on stock miui...
It depends on your use case i suppose. Even if you were to use MIUI, you might want root for a system level adblocker. If you are not using any apps that have ads in the first place, and while xposed is not supported under pie, and you have no need of things like Magisk (Youtube adblocking, Gapps Force Doze, ANX Camera...), then i suppose you don't have a great need of root.
Well, atleast until the Whatapp ads happen. They are coming
Thank you both for your answers, ads are really annoying to me. Don't know if there would be any solution without the need to root. This would've the first time I haven't rooted my personal phone, but the ads thibg surely matters a lot
The fact that you are asking if it's worth rooting tells me that you are better off not rooting as your usage does not need root. For you probably is better to stay stock and non rooted.
I have been rooting my device for a long time. First it was SuperSu and now Magisk. At the beginning, I used to root just to mess with the device. Then I was used to Titanium backup and a few rooted apps. With the release of Magisk, rooting was a must for me for amazing modules like Viper FX, systemless busybox, fonts etc. Just a few days ago, I thought of giving a try without root to see how important it is in my life. So I vlean flashed stock rom and locked BL. Now after a couple of days usage without root, I find my device more responsive and fluid than it was with Magisk (because of the way Magisk works). I definitely miss ViperFX, sysyemless fonts etc. But it's not like I can't live without it. Most importantly, Android has come a long way. There are a lot of apps getting released everyday which are decreasing the needs of rooting. And some apps even work with ADB access. Of course, this is my personal opinion. Your experience may vary.
Try NetGuard for blocking ads without root
willro14 said:
Thank you both for your answers, ads are really annoying to me. Don't know if there would be any solution without the need to root. This would've the first time I haven't rooted my personal phone, but the ads thibg surely matters a lot
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NetGuard is a firewall which can run even on non-rooted phones and can block any incoming or outgoing connection request from the phone on a per app / per domain basis.
I have been using NetGuard since day 1 on my poco and it's been an amazing experience! Zero ads but what's even more important to me - a sense of privacy since I block most of the outgoing MIUI analytics and tracking connection requests.
Also, the app is free but I have got the paid version for extra features as well as supporting the dev.
You can try out the app from either the f-droid build (https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.netguard/) or GitHub (https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard). There was also a discussion page right here on XDA, if you want to check out.
willro14 said:
Thank you both for your answers, ads are really annoying to me. Don't know if there would be any solution without the need to root. This would've the first time I haven't rooted my personal phone, but the ads thibg surely matters a lot[/QUOTE
Use adguard app, It's been the best for me. I installed it on the day 1 when I got this phone. Infact installing YouTube vanced and adguard is the first thing I do in a new phone.
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If I read the right page, LineageOS never officially supported the Tab S3 and there don't seem to be any other official ROMs judging by this thread. Are there any stable and/or well maintained Android 10 or 11 ROMs for the SM-T820 worth abandoning the dated but stable stock ROM?
I tried a few - no real use.
back to stock.
after setting everything up from scratch, meaning no userdata or such, it felt a LOT faster than before.
What helped me a lot was removing all google play services (with link2sd, I just uninstalled everything with root) and switching to vanced youtube (so I still get to watch yt).
For google drive and such I can use the browser versions and now without a trace of google the tablet is a lot faster. I'm sure that properly set up microg wouldn't affect performance at all but I don't have the time to reset again. If I manage to do it some day I'll post a tutorial, and in the mean time someone else can try this method.
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What helped me a lot was removing all google play services (with link2sd, I just uninstalled everything with root) and switching to vanced youtube (so I still get to watch yt).
For google drive and such I can use the browser versions and now without a trace of google the tablet is a lot faster. I'm sure that properly set up microg wouldn't affect performance at all but I don't have the time to reset again. If I manage to do it some day I'll post a tutorial, and in the mean time someone else can try this method.
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Giving my Google passwords to a 3rd party app doesn't feel good to me. I switched instead to watching YouTube on Firefox some time ago, with the ad blocker plugins. The only downside is that on mobile, after a video ends and the next loads, the video goes out of full screen.
As to removing bloatware, can the device be rooted without causing issues with Samsung's stock interface?
I noticed there's an official Pie release. Unfortunately, I don't think I qualify for normal OTA upgrade as I have a Wifi only tablet and no carrier. Also, this is a demo tablet not intended for sale, so additional lockouts might apply there.
Does anyone know if the official Pie upgrade should work with the demo model, and have any experience with the Android 9 firmware from Samsung?
At the moment I'm away from my PC so I can't flash isn't Odin. I'm kinda itching to get the upgrade on my tablet and wondering if there's a way to reliably flash without even a PC to root my tablet.
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Eventually, I figured out how to flash a Wifi-only SM-T820 LDU (live demo model) from Android 7.0 to the last Android 9 firmware Samsung released for the model. A good upgrade and very stable.
I'm expecting my 10T to arrive shortly (upgrading from the OP5). In the past I've always rooted my phone, with AdAway and the ability to do full app + data backups being the main things I still use root for.
With the 10T I'm not sure I can be bothered with the extra hassle of being rooted (potential issues during upgrade, potential for GPay and the like to stop working).
It's been so long since I've had to migrate to a new phone, I've no idea how good the data transfer is between phones (specifically app saved data that the app won't export/save to the cloud) - does anyone have any experience of these tools?
One of the issues with potentially wanting to root later is wiping everything to unlock the bootloader. Are there any issues with unlocking this straight away, but not rooting? Does having an unlocked bootloader cause certain ( eg banking etc) apps to not work or is there zero issues with doing this?
Most people usually just unlock and don't root for that reason. There's no downfall to doing that, benefit is u will already have it unlocked if u want to root later.
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I'm expecting my 10T to arrive shortly (upgrading from the OP5). In the past I've always rooted my phone, with AdAway and the ability to do full app + data backups being the main things I still use root for.
With the 10T I'm not sure I can be bothered with the extra hassle of being rooted (potential issues during upgrade, potential for GPay and the like to stop working).
It's been so long since I've had to migrate to a new phone, I've no idea how good the data transfer is between phones (specifically app saved data that the app won't export/save to the cloud) - does anyone have any experience of these tools?
One of the issues with potentially wanting to root later is wiping everything to unlock the bootloader. Are there any issues with unlocking this straight away, but not rooting? Does having an unlocked bootloader cause certain ( eg banking etc) apps to not work or is there zero issues with doing this?
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For data switching, there are things built in OnePlus. Rooting and unlocking BL is perfectly normal as i am one of those users of op10t fully rooted. Having said that, some users have reported a few banking apps detecting root and causing issues. For me, i haven't faced it.
For the other points which you have mentioned, I use gpay, upgrade software (there are ways and means to do everything and you need to learn, adapt).
The most primary purpose for me to root, unlock, remains custom ROMs which is a complete negative at this moment - thanks mainly to OP, changes in stock Android etc. Still I prefer to stay rooted, if that answers your question
Thanks guys.
Unlocked it will be.
I don't doubt there will always be ways round things, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra effort for me personally.
Gpay and banking apps should work fine, maybe you only need to flash Universal Safety Net Fix. But if you want to watch netflix or any other streaming services it won't work.
Yes, unlocking the bootloader is a good start on XDA!
But, as mentioned Netflix, etc. will not work...
So reading a bit more, it sounds like unlocking the bootloader (and nothing else) will fail cts profile match.
Does failing CTS mean Google Wallet will not work?