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Folks I am not one to complain or hound because I have the biggest respect for all the Devs in the forum even if you all though Trip was wrong for not sharing his sources or whatever your reasons were you would be shocked the Rude and Outright harrassing behavior the XDA Mods are doing over in the other forum modaco.com they are flat out flamming the forum with insults bad language and outright rudeness and I am happy to be banned after posting this I will not return here this group of Mod's are outright rude and obviously jelous of what others can do that they cannot.
FYI I would suggest the other forum no one is harrassing anyone and everyone respects eachother there!!
http://android.modaco.com/content/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-x10-modaco-com/
To all the Devs I love you guys you have made my time with the X10 fun and exciting and I respect all of you just not the Mods that would do such things.. Good bye everyone hope to see you on the other forum
Just die
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Dude, this is really wrong place for this
reported to mods
If anyone believes it *really* was the XDA mods doing that, then they are stupid imbeciles. ANYONE can register with that name on any forum and stir ****. It's just silly to think it was really an XDA mod doing it.
Another one of those hate threads towards the Mods.
WTF dude, anyone could make an account and pretend they're the mods of XDA.
This is such a childish act whoever's making it.
It wasn't pilot. Someone created an account with his name.
Stupidly they didn't check if he already had an account on modaco which he does and has since 2008. He posted a reply on modaco on wolfbreaks thread over there (page 3 I think) so you can see for yourselves.
Why anyone would think a moderator would get involved in this rubbish is beyond me! It was obviously some kids trying to start some trouble.
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Then I think the Mods should realize who were doing wrong.
It's the guys who were annoying Trip all the time, not Trip himself. Everyone has his temper.
I think what the Mods do to Trip is totally unfair.
ok, yep, so you're going to believe a dev who acts like a 5 year old and seems to PMS every 3 days over mods who are trained to be unbiased, and ARE mods because of how dedicated and honest they are. That makes perfect sense.
Now go back into your little Trip's hole and don't come back, you'll be doing a favour to the whole of XDA.
LOL I find this whole saga a little funny. Whenever I refresh my xda app on my phone in hope of finding developments in current roms I see threads like these. Grow up guys. It takes 2 hands to clap. Posts like these at modaco
QUOTE(-pilot @ Jun 1 2011, 12:54) Well obviously!! It definitely wasn't his little flamboyant outbursts, on his weekly period!
Doesn't really make things better. Whether its pilot or not idk but I think the people over here at xda should let the matter rest and not go over to modaco to spam. Even the mods aren't saying anything anymore. Even trip isn't saying anything anymore
So all the 5 year olds over at xda, let's get back to bug hunting. Mods please close this thread
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is this how you talk in real life? i almost turned blue after reading your post. put a comma in there once a while, they don't cost money.
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Folks I am not one to complain or hound because I have the biggest respect for all the Devs in the forum even if you all though Trip was wrong for not sharing his sources or whatever your reasons were you would be shocked the Rude and Outright harrassing behavior the XDA Mods are doing over in the other forum modaco.com they are flat out flamming the forum with insults bad language and outright rudeness and I am happy to be banned after posting this I will not return here this group of Mod's are outright rude and obviously jelous of what others can do that they cannot.
FYI I would suggest the other forum no one is harrassing anyone and everyone respects eachother there!!
http://android.modaco.com/content/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-x10-modaco-com/
To all the Devs I love you guys you have made my time with the X10 fun and exciting and I respect all of you just not the Mods that would do such things.. Good bye everyone hope to see you on the other forum
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If you had the attention span, you would have seen i am not -pilot
i am _PiLoT_ and posted as such in the thread.
with an explanation saying no matter what i do here at xda it doesnt fuel my personal perceptions on people.
I have no ill will against trip nor anyone here for that matter. and even if i did id ask another mod to take over because it then becomes conflict of interest
All the moderators at XDA did was ban trip after a temper. because he broke the rules
And if you needed to speak to me about it then it would have been less rude to PM me or email [email protected]
and to clarify. trip was not banned for not sharing resources. it really up to him what he shares unless he violates GPL terms
PiLoT
I come to xda for informed discussion about a device and for device development. I don't know what has happened to these forums, but I do have a few humble suggestions:
1. If you don't have a prime / aren't expecting one / looking to get one / involved in development LEAVE. Go troll elsewhere. It has become too difficult to find useful posts because of all of the BS in this forum. The sheer volume of it is frankly shocking. I don't blame the mod because I know he mods several forums (including my old haunt the mesmerize forum) and you know probably has like a job and ****. Cleaning the amount of crap going on right now is enough to two full time jobs.
2. No offense-actually **** that- every offense intended- if you are debating between this and an iOS device, this is not the forum for you. I'm not saying don't get the prime. I'm sure its just as good for newbies as it is for others, but the very fact that you are considering an iOS device as a prime alternative proves to me that you are in the wrong place. I'm not saying the prime is free of defects or anything-it certainly has its quirks. But half the fun of Linux and open source is the quirks and that you can change anything about your device. Customization and quirks are at the core of Linux.
3. Notice the word developers in the URL of this site. I'm not a Dev, but I am an IT admin and do at least have a clue of what the **** is going on. Unless things have changed, this forum is for people who have a clue. If "#cat brain | grep -i clue" doesn't at least ring a bell than I might suggest finding a different forum to go newb around in. And its okay to be a newbie, just be a good newbie and read a fukton before you come on this site and start cluttering it up with BS.
4. For the love of all that is holy and good in this world, if you are posting about a topic, use the thread that already ****ing exists. Why are there 13,457,598,568 GPS threads. We get it already. It doesn't ****ing work very well. I am not interested in yet another screenshot of you GPS working or not working. Keep that **** in a single thread for those of you all that like that **** for whatever reason and let the rest of us who don't enjoy the GPS screenshot porn go about the rest of our reading. Are you all aware that there is a feature of this website where you can search and find similar topics? Do you not see the little suggestions when you start a new thread that are put there to avoid redundancy in threads? This goes as well for you tf-70005534 next model people and you wifi ppl whatever.
5. Lastly, I have a humble suggestion: the purpose of this lovely forum as I understand it is much like the forum in ancient Greece: for the free flow of useful information and to offer help and support to our fellow citizens prime. SO IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING INFORMATIVE OR HELPFUL GTFO.
/ rant off
I just couldn't stand it anymore. I can hardly stand to enter the general discussion forum anymore.
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Really, this thread needs to closed for all the foul language.
Wow - I sure am glad you are here to make sure all us idiots behave.
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Right there in your first line you tell them to go away because this forum is for development. No, this is General. There is a separate forum for dev chat, you should go there if you are wanting dev only.
I get more irritated with these types of threads then the fanatics arguing for and against the prime. Lol
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Really, this thread needs to closed for all the foul language.
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It is only about 1% real profanity by word count. I'm sorry to have scarred your virgin eyes.
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Right there in your first line you tell them to go away because this forum is for development. No, this is General. There is a separate forum for dev chat, you should go there if you are wanting dev only.
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Actually, this whole website is for development-minded people. hence the name of the website: xda-DEVELOPERS. not xda-whiners or xda-trollers.
It would be nice to have a helpful civil community with helpful post. Its getting hard to use this forum I feel the OPs pain
Theres better way to express things but it won't be possible until the trolls and newbs clear out
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It is only about 1% real profanity by word count. I'm sorry to have scarred your virgin eyes.
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"#cat brain | grep -i clue"
Is this geekspeak for"I need a life so I can stop nerd raging to people Ill never meet in forums"?
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Actually, this whole website is for development-minded people. hence the name of the website: xda-DEVELOPERS. not xda-whiners or xda-trollers.
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Actually the forum owners realize that the forum itself has branched out far beyond simple development talk. There are reasons that there is a General, Q&A, Dev, and more for each device. People have questions, concerns, interest in accessories, things that are not appropriate for a strictly development forum. Thus the other subforums.
I you want enforced dev talk only, go to the dev forum. It's policed and threads are killed off that are not on topic.
On the flip side, there are a ton of whiners and complainers and those who complain about them.
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"#cat brain | grep -i clue"
Is this geekspeak for"I need a life so I can stop nerd raging to people Ill never meet in forums"?
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No those are basic linux commands, you know linux, the os you use. You have heard of it right?
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No those are basic linux commands, you know linux, the os you use. You have heard of it right?
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Not everyone knows Linux like some guy like you.
I'm sure a lot of people understand their Prime, but aren't worried about the inner workings of the OS that this OS was based on.
How you doin'? Greetings from my GT-I9000!
I agree with pistons, but I think we will have to wait for roms to start. That will weed many out.
Rich, just too heavy handed. I sort of agree with you, I am contemplating returning my prime for some of the valid points but also some of the negativity.
I almost think jerdog would be better wiping out this entire forum and not opening it up for like 72 hours for a cooling down period. Problem is, as much as some want to sweep this stuff under the rug, there are legitimate problems, admitted to by Asus. How crazy it has gotten, wow? It's gotten personal and when things get personal, nobody wants to be the one that listens
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No those are basic linux commands, you know linux, the os you use. You have heard of it right?
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I drive a car but have no idea how to build a transmission..Whats your point?
In general I agree with the op. Could he have used a little less profanity? Of course, but that really isn't the point. The fact that a thread like this even has to exist says that something is hugely wrong with this section. And all you guys wonder why users and devs alike leave this site for less hostile forums. The same thing happened in the thunderbolt forum. The device was hyped beyond belief prior to launch, and when it was finally released it was plagued with problems, the abysmal battery life being the most *****ed about. The entire section filled up with battery threads and things got out of control. People got hostile and overly defensive and the trolls came out of the woodwork. The result was several of the main devs leaving for another site. Things have settled down in the tbolt section since and some of those devs have returned, but none of his happened until the trolls got bored and moved on to another device to ***** about. The same thing will happen with the prime. Eventually there will be new tablets to complain about and this section will be left to those who actually own a prime. Eventually we will be able to use this section as a hotbed of information on how to improve our devices, but until then this section seems to have turned into a dumping zone for GPS threads and people complaining and demanding things. It's quite sad really. I sure how we can come out of this ahead because the way things are going now isn't helping anyone.
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You all realize this is a commerce site, right? It's not a public service. The owner has a ton of costs in keeping the site up and offsets those costs (and hopefully makes a profit) through advertising. Therefore, the more users the better. Anyone's welcome to create a new site with different ToU if XDA's no longer meeting their needs. Good luck trying to pay for it and attracting the volume of devs and smart people that contribute to XDA.
XDA has grown over the years and is now the largest and most visited site for mobile technology discussion. It's quoted frequently in the press and, as proven by this very forum, helps hold manufacturers accountable (GPS expose, bootloader unlock). The general section is just that and with XDA coming up at the top of a Google search for newbies looking for answers it's going to become more and more mainstream. And as nice as it would be to discuss an issue once and bury it, each day that new people buy a device they are going to keep resurrecting the issue until it's resolved. Hopefully they'll do a search first.
There's a simple way to have a clean and happy front page. Manufacturers should release products that are finished when they're launched and work the way they're supposed to. That applies to everyone, not just Asus.
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I drive a car but have no idea how to build a transmission..Whats your point?
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I bet you know how to turn on the headlights though (a closer analogy). =)
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+1 for OP message, I agree.
-1 for delivery.
I have to chuckle a little bit. The OP has, what, 78 posts? Kind of a newb himself... This is the place where people come to learn, you are not expected to know everything, hence the questions. Some are lame but they are always answered one way or the other. I love this site, I learn everyday.
hey guys! i just joined xda today and i'm loving it! i was looking at the bamf rom earlier today and saw that it was closed? does anyone know why or what happened?
Trolls. What else is new these days...
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Trolls. What else is new these days...
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oh hahaha. so i guess i should follow it on the bamf website now?
joelz said hes focusing on BAMF stuff and not posting his work on here anymore.
biggie voice: "and another one"
Find him here.
What? Dammit, why these trolls be hatin' on our devs?
hope sooner or later the non-developers who toll on a development forum (for developers) learn that trolls make the developers go away....
it seems all the good developers are going away...
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hope sooner or later the non-developers who toll on a development forum (for developers) learn that trolls make the developers go away....
it seems all the good developers are going away...
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All they're doing is taking valuable devs go to other sites than xda.... Great job trolls
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All they're doing is taking valuable devs go to other sites than xda.... Great job trolls
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some developers actually stopped developing.... cause of xda drama
...when was the last time i had an update? went from daily to 2-3 times per month
...ziggy? Ziggy was the best kernel dev XDA had...ever.. and you all pushed him to stop development... good one...
...cant remember the dudes xda name (i know his real name) ..but the dude who had the ONLY roms that supported usb host mode w/ my kernels...you all pushed him out of development...
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some developers actually stopped developing.... cause of xda drama
...when was the last time i had an update? went from daily to 2-3 times per month
...ziggy? Ziggy was the best kernel dev XDA had...ever.. and you all pushed him to stop development... good one...
...cant remember the dudes xda name (i know his real name) ..but the dude who had the ONLY roms that supported usb host mode w/ my kernels...you all pushed him out of development...
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that was androidosx, no?
I've been here to see all those great devs leave, and that's not even all of them. (though you still spend an awful lot of time here chad...time to troll-back the trolls?) I seem to always be at work when drama goes down, and by the time I catch up posts or entire threads are deleted.
just sayin.
Even before I bought my Evo 3D, I had checked out this section, and to be absolutely honest, I almost didn't bother getting one because of the amount of abuse being dished out in this sub-forum. People just asking questions getting jumped on and abused, without being repremanded. Just don't need it.
If the dev's got any of that attitude, I'm not really surprised. People 'should' be grateful that others put time and energy into software development, without any effort on their own part, dev's enable them to have fantastic features etc. The dev's don't owe you anything, so stop acting like they do. If you flash your phone that's your choice, don't expect help when you give the dev's a mouthful.. they have lives too, and they are not getting paid for it.
If you haven't got anything constructive to say, don't bother saying it
I'm very glad that guys like chad can ride out the negative crap, and realise that there are probably a lot of people that are very happy because of them
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Even before I bought my Evo 3D, I had checked out this section, and to be absolutely honest, I almost didn't bother getting one because of the amount of abuse being dished out in this sub-forum. People just asking questions getting jumped on and abused, without being repremanded. Just don't need it.
If the dev's got any of that attitude, I'm not really surprised. People 'should' be grateful that others put time and energy into software development, without any effort on their own part, dev's enable them to have fantastic features etc. The dev's don't owe you anything, so stop acting like they do. If you flash your phone that's your choice, don't expect help when you give the dev's a mouthful.. they have lives too, and they are not getting paid for it.
If you haven't got anything constructive to say, don't bother saying it
I'm very glad that guys like chad can ride out the negative crap, and realise that there are probably a lot of people that are very happy because of them
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i ride it out cause there was a recent change of shooter forum moderators...
...but who knows when i will create a new thread here - i create custom kernels for other XDA developers who ask...and i have a thread at infectedrom.com
but my motivation to develop for phones other than my hw001 shooter = zero
my test6 kernel works on all 2.17 based roms on hw001 phones.. so why put effort into making it work on hw002 phones.. so other devs can call the gpl police cause they cant kang what i spent hours working on cause htc wont release source... and i wont either
Sorry, just asking as a newbie - there arent moderators on these forums to do their job and keep the drama in check?
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Sorry, just asking as a newbie - there arent moderators on these forums to do their job and keep the drama in check?
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As contributors and fellow members of the XDA community, moderators also feel the frustration of losing significant contributors. I posted the following message in another forum with ongoing drama and for the most part, the message applies to this situation as well.
There seems to be a significant amount of animosity that permeates throughout the Android related forums. I'm not certain as to why this is, nor do I want to hear any reason for justification; what I do know is that it is unacceptable.
As moderators, we spend more time cleaning up flame & troll posts than working on our own community contributions. Unfounded accusations such as KANG'ing serve to drive away those valued members who try to contribute to XDA ... further lowering the quality of threads and posts on this forum.
XDA is about bringing together folks who have similar passions about mobile technology. I would have expected more maturity and professionalism. Instead, I find a thread full of inflammatory posts ... it is not constructive and serves no purpose.
While the Forum Moderator(s) take time from their busy schedule to effect cleanup and "damage control"; further detracting of this thread once it is re-opened will result in permanent holidays for those involved, rest assured that appeals will be non-negotiable. I would encourage members who have posted in this thread to reacquaint themselves with the forum rules - the best moderation is self-moderation.
Forum rules, please read!
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I have been lurking for a little while, but now i feel i should post (since my post count is too low to post in the developers area) I would like to thank everyone who had a part in the downgrading process as well as the guys at Meanroms.
Welcome. And its about time the lurkers come out. Know we all can be a little intimidating at times but don't worry. Be friendly and courteous and search before asking questions and you'll get along just fine here.
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Welcome! I lurked here off and on for a few years before deciding to register and help others. Enjoy
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OH and download tapatalk and or xda premium for the unlimited Thanks option. Silly as it seems we do like knowing who found anything we said useful or funny but that's me. Just throwin it out there
I am a lurker too, though I've been visiting xda for over 2 years since I dived into the world of Android with a HTC Hero. I've since rooted & installed ROMs on three other of my Android phones and two or three friends too.
I've got to say I am now in the position where I would love to help a little more but the arbitrary "10 post" rule has stopped me. Often the questions I could answer are in the Dev section & I honestly rarely stray outside of those areas. Even when I do I feel embarrassed to post this kind of stuff just to get up to 10 posts - especially when I see at least one "more experienced" member asking a developer how to install their ROM on every page within a thread whose first post contains detailed instructions. In this world of supposed "zero tolerance" there's a heck of a lot of tolerance being shown.
Anyway <takes deep breath>, I'm sure I'll reach the magic figure soon enough without having to add to the "Troll" thread or the NSFW wallpapers (though I may have a peep to see if I can be of assistance... ahem)
This really really is a fantastic resource with literally hundreds of altruistic individuals helping others to get the most out of their phone, long may it continue.... now has anyone got an ETA for a Jelly Bean ROM?
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I am a lurker too, though I've been visiting xda for over 2 years since I dived into the world of Android with a HTC Hero. I've since rooted & installed ROMs on three other of my Android phones and two or three friends too.
I've got to say I am now in the position where I would love to help a little more but the arbitrary "10 post" rule has stopped me. Often the questions I could answer are in the Dev section & I honestly rarely stray outside of those areas. Even when I do I feel embarrassed to post this kind of stuff just to get up to 10 posts - especially when I see at least one "more experienced" member asking a developer how to install their ROM on every page within a thread whose first post contains detailed instructions. In this world of supposed "zero tolerance" there's a heck of a lot of tolerance being shown.
Anyway <takes deep breath>, I'm sure I'll reach the magic figure soon enough without having to add to the "Troll" thread or the NSFW wallpapers (though I may have a peep to see if I can be of assistance... ahem)
This really really is a fantastic resource with literally hundreds of altruistic individuals helping others to get the most out of their phone, long may it continue.... now has anyone got an ETA for a Jelly Bean ROM?
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o_o you cruel person you... And you know what for
Welcome fellow Hero lover! May you feel at home with the other old Hero users and devs that are here. Always feel free to post.
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I have been lurking for a little while, but now i feel i should post (since my post count is too low to post in the developers area) I would like to thank everyone who had a part in the downgrading process as well as the guys at Meanroms.
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Although you would've gotten ripped apart by posting THIS thread in the dev thread. LOL its only for mods/roms/development
Read things until you understand, not before, you'll be fine, and welcome out from the shadows.
I remember a time when people were helpful on XDA. They would share knowledge, help others who know less. Unfortunately, those days are long gone.
I have referred many friends and acquaintances to XDA Developers, telling them there are many very experienced guys - and girls - who are happy to help you... It gives many of them the experience they need.
But a number of these people would tell me that the people on XDA are, basically, jerks! Rather than complain along with others, I hope to get through to at least one of you.
XDA began as a site where anyone with a specific handheld device could ask any question in order to get help...with any problem they would encounter. It grew and added other devices. Now XDA has become the most reputable go-to site for help with any kind of phone. If anyone knows anything about phones they know XDA Developers.
Guys, this should not be a place to show-off, or to be rude or intimidating. Often, there are people with questions, or need help, advice...and they don't know anything. These are the people who need help the most. Your help. Please treat people the way YOU would want to be treated when YOU did not know anything at all. That is all I ask.
Thank you.
If you ask nicely, in the right place, you'll get an answer.
The problem is when people come demanding this or that, being rude and asking questions in the wrong places.
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my expirience is i been in 2 phone sections the skyrocket galaxy s2 and the lg g2.
in the s2 there were very helpful but when i came here i notice the same thing rather then getting help you get unnecessary post or answers.. or making fun of you or beign smartasses.. ive had a few arguments with some guys in here so they know who they are
the way i think is teach someone that someone will teach another, we are all different some will get it, and to some will be more difficult. instead ofa bogus post why not share link or type a helpful post.. then if you aint helping why post at all just ignore and go on with life..
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I remember a time when people were helpful on XDA. They would share knowledge, help others who know less. Unfortunately, those days are long gone.
I have referred many friends and acquaintances to XDA Developers, telling them there are many very experienced guys - and girls - who are happy to help you... It gives many of them the experience they need.
But a number of these people would tell me that the people on XDA are, basically, jerks! Rather than complain along with others, I hope to get through to at least one of you.
XDA began as a site where anyone with a specific handheld device could ask any question in order to get help...with any problem they would encounter. It grew and added other devices. Now XDA has become the most reputable go-to site for help with any kind of phone. If anyone knows anything about phones they know XDA Developers.
Guys, this should not be a place to show-off, or to be rude or intimidating. Often, there are people with questions, or need help, advice...and they don't know anything. These are the people who need help the most. Your help. Please treat people the way YOU would want to be treated when YOU did not know anything at all. That is all I ask.
Thank you.
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As a moderator and very active member of this community I see a lot. There are threads that I participate in as a member and those are the most friendly, helpful threads. I am actually shocked at the helpfulness and politeness in spite of the fact that people asking the questions failed to read as close as 2 posts above which had their answer. More and more members have joined this community and do not want to read even the basic requirement of the OP of the thread before they attempt to modify their $600 device. Too many members want an answer NAO without having to go to the trouble of reading or searching a little. The very first rule asks all members who join to search first. When I joined in 2010, I read for a month before making my first post. XDA was not a help desk then. It was a place to share knowledge. This is two very different things. People who genuinely want help, how to theme, how to change something, how to know how to adjust a kernel and figure out the best setting for themselves...those people usually get the help they need. But people that refuse to read, expecting the members of the thread to do it for them...then ask a question in a development thread like "Do I need root for this?" Then proceed to ask to be spoon fed how to do it? This probably will annoy some members that have done a little reading. So yes, the site has changed...you can expect that with going from a million members in 2010 to 7 million now. And on the other hand we do have rules regarding member conduct as well, and members should respect the new members and guide them..make this the site they want it to be and once was. I understand what you are saying but I also see many sides of this. I see new members being rude, demanding answers, expecting someone to answer within an hour of their question, as well as the other side of someone rudely stating "Search!". So it is not just one sided. Unfortunately I see this as a sign of what society in general is becoming as we overpopulate this poor ball of dirt hurtling through space.
Thank you, KennyG123. I cannot disagree with anything you stated. In fact, it reminds me that I forgot to mention to new members that they be polite, also. I cannot help but to agree with you 100%. We all need a little reminder sometimes. So I hope that someone...anyone reads this and think about how they treat others. I need it, too!
Again, Thank you, KennyG123.
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Enjoyed this thoroughly.
Been on since my little Frodo Sony Xperia mini x10i (what a name) and right here are the two sides of coin.
When I came on I knew nothing - and asked some dumb questions, and did the searches etc.
Many of those searches came back with stuff I could not understand. And some of the people reproducing this info were jerks - concerned only with obfuscation and an invitation to pm.
However, people were not rude, so eventually you find someone same level or a little higher and you're off.
Then suddenly the nicest thing happens - someone asks for help...and you CAN help. You recognise yourself and step in and it's good - EVEN IF just to remind them that the answer is on the page before, and sometimes searching first will help. And this without the eye-rolling condescension...you all know what I mean.
I too have referred people here, impressed with my 'knowledge', and I'm like, no, look, it's this great community of people......and then have them come back all discouraged and they may as well just stick to whatever the corporations foist on them.
Then on the other hand, a couple of years ago I noticed a proliferating of the other kind of jerk - you know them also.
Badgering the creator of a post for eta's with funny emoticons, I just cant wait, are we there yet, huh, are we there yet, and by the way do you think we'll be getting Smartie for our phones, and over on the 'other' device, they've got the code to overlay on Marshmallow to port to Smartie, their phones are so much better, and more whining, and maybe YOU can do the port, and are we there yet, I'll check back in an hour, and oh ya, how do I root yadiyada - there's a stickie, first post by the way.
That also is plain rude. There's a community, find out a little about it first, or read the phone manual at least.
For both instances I find one thing; real XDAers do not snap at people, don't jeez I wish you'd read something first, aren't put off by being referred to search either, won't make anyone feel like they're time here has been wasted, nor that anyone else is dumb, they've all been there.
These are the fakers, and posers, and always, ALWAYS, at the centre of some flame war.
Of course sometimes you want to voice your opinion on something and read others too so over-moderation kills the fun. There can be discretion, and it is clear when a discussion has gone from heated to just plain chest thumping - step away.
So, you know, use common sense.
Finally, just one more thing, I learnt good moderators are actually very helpful...For anything.
Pm something. They'll point you somewhere, guaranteed. Let them know if you feel like you're being bullied WITH A LINK to where this is happening and they'll show up and clean up the thread and keep safe. Though look, if YOU are the one stirring stuff up and then reporting, that too will be seen, and in my experience, that's looked at as a worse offence than just not searching first, so be sure.
Something HAS happened to the entire world of social internet that I find reprehensible. People have become rude simply because it makes them feel better to put someone else down in style.
I don't know when it happened exactly - and it's everywhere, Reddit, Facebook, wherever.
At XDA we can at least keep reminding people to just have a good time and don't be rude. Do whatever you like; research and grow or ask stupid questions, just don't be rude. We care about everyone on here.
We actually do.
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CiscoKydd your thoughts are echoed by many on XDA. Heck we mods have the same thoughts from time to time.
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XDA began as a site where anyone with a specific handheld device could ask any question in order to get help...with any problem they would encounter.
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actually wasn't the guise under which XDA was created. It was a site by developers for developers. There were many times when a Dev would tell people to F off but by in large (as it is today) many were willing to share their knowledge.
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Guys, this should not be a place to show-off, or to be rude or intimidating.
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We simply call this group the entitled.. Ask them, they will tell you it is so:silly:
A big change implemented a few years ago on XDA, came about with this small group in mind. We call it the report system (explained here):good:
While we like to see this behemoth (XDA) run like a well oiled machine, there will always be a wrench thrown into the cog. We (moderators/admin of XDA) ask that you NOT let yourselves get dragged into the battle of wills. A simple report with a simple explanation (in said report) usually lets us deal with a situation with little, to no drama left behind in its wake.
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Please treat people the way YOU would want to be treated when YOU did not know anything at all. That is all I ask.
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Cheers to that mate:good:
As membership continues to grow we can only hope that the few that read this remember why we are all here, to share and help others with what you know.
I have been "crying" to XDA for a number of years for help. I always got the help I needed. Most important, I got an education. There is more knowledge here on XDA than I could ever absorb! The hardest part was learning to search. But once I got over that hump I felt... Powerful!!
And I need to remind myself to be understanding, patient, respectful. You guys are right. It ain't easy sometimes. But XDA is a learning experience.
You guys are a good and knowledgeable bunch. Thanks. For everything.
I honestly feel this dependence on the question. I usually just look at topics rather then post in them, and I can see some people ask a certian question that other people regret as nubish, so suddenly they have "Nub mode" on. I just want them to remember that they, once upon a time were these so called noobs too.
Obviously this is not true about the majority of the people, just some.
Move this thread to "android general" or something, its useless to have it here
A short and good note mate ! but why here ?
Thanks for bringing this up.
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Move this thread to "android general" or something, its useless to have it here
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rajkatiyar07 said:
A short and good note mate ! but why here ?
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I assume the OP has a G2 and felt he would like to post his opinion on the subject in his general section.
This is fine:good:
TonyStark said:
Thanks for bringing this up.
I assume the OP has a G2 and felt he would like to post his opinion on the subject in his general section.
This is fine:good:
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No problem Mr. Stark !
Regards :- Jarvis
I don't know why but I really miss 2010 to 2012 gingerbread days
OP is right. I think this situation becomes because of release xda themes after 2010 version. I'am using 2010 theme and I think after 2010 themes are very compilcated and makes users nerveous and this is the reason why anyone not want to be help each other.
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I don't know why but I really miss 2010 to 2012 gingerbread days
OP is right. I think this situation becomes because of release xda themes after 2010 version. I'am using 2010 theme and I think after 2010 themes are very compilcated and makes users nerveous and this is the reason why anyone not want to be help each other.
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Thats funny, I came here in 2013 and I think that theme's the best and everything else is complicated. I miss the kitkat days.
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I honestly feel this dependence on the question. I usually just look at topics rather then post in them, and I can see some people ask a certian question that other people regret as nubish, so suddenly they have "Nub mode" on. I just want them to remember that they, once upon a time were these so called noobs too.
Obviously this is not true about the majority of the people, just some.
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I can't remember ever being flamed for making a noob question. One of my first posts on this site was a silly question in a dev thread and the developer (LenAsh) just answered it respectfully. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones but my noobishness was only ever met with kindness and help.
I don't think I've experienced any rudeness when I've (albeit rarely) asked any questions since I started my Android journey in early-mid 2014. Before that I was an iOS guy, before that a Final Fantasy XI guy (MMORPG, was a moderator for a while of one of the biggest FFXI websites created by my best friend), and so on and so on. All forums that are a bit on the nerdy/technical/gadgets side have a problem with rude people. Lest we not forget the adage that the delightful guys at Penny Arcade put into a perfect cartoon: regular person + anonymity (sometimes)= bag of douche.
Having been a moderator I understand the frustration occasionally felt by @KennyG123 and @TonyStark. Why are some people such freakin jerks, yet others will type the same thing 10,000 times just to feel like they've helped 10,000 people. Why do some people read and search and learn first for a while before asking anything, yet others will ask (and almost demand) to have their hand held at every. single. step.? Maybe it's human nature?
I'm all about helping and being nice. Online and off.
people tend to ask first read later or no read at all.
they just want to post the question then go and do their own thing, come back later to see the answer.
while the thread starter wasted their own time to type the multiple posts of information/FAQ.
and last, this post should not be in this section as this is not even android related.
you post the wrong question in the wrong section and you still hope to get an answer?
I've been on the HTC wildfire, Nexus 5, Nexus 7 2013, Nexus 9 and LG G2 threads and have always found the other XDA members to be most helpful, (even though I'm not a flashaholic.)
However, I do make sure to search before asking questions and can therefore understand the frustration of answering questions that have been asked many times before. :angel:
So true but it seems out side of the G2 forums, there are still good people.
I had a good experience in the nexus 6 forums, never once got asked to "search before asking" best part of it is that I don't even have a N6 and the question I asked was actually illegal/criminal, I didn't know that at the time and those members explained in detail why it was illegal without bring disrespectful to me.
I honestly blame mods for not being strict enough.
I brought up a few specific xda members that were out right harassing people and I presented my case with evidence of repeated harassment.
The mod told me that I was over reacting. I said that by not doing anything about it they were condoning the action.
I wanted to strangle that mod, completely worthless. Police that don't enforce.
If the mods would start banning the few that are bringing xda down, then the problem would be solved.
But they won't do anything!
Mods have their work cut out for them here and I know they are doing the best they can, but it's not focused correctly to rectify the problem.
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