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I recently bought a used Xperia Active mainly to be used as a cycling computer (with the awesome app OruxMaps) and for recording my runs using Endomondo. The stock ROM was bloated with all sorts so after a few days it just had to go.
First I flashed CM10.1 but apparently the BT stack is borked on that so Ant+ is not working, so I flashed CM10 and everything works great or at least everything that I need. It connects to my BT x-fit headphones, BT Polar HRM and Ant+ B'Twin Speed and Cadence sensor without any major issues - the audio cuts out occasionally but I'm not sure if it's an issue with Google Music/All Access or a 3G connectivity or BT issue and haven't bothered investigating to be honest.
I've read that the BT stack in 4.3 is better and supports BT BLE which I might decide to use for fitness accessories - although reading about Ant+, it sounds a far better option for that sort of thing.
So, is CM10.2 likely to come to the Active? I'm assuming there shouldn't be an issue in terms of hardware, is there?
Also, if there are any fellow runners/cyclists with any app suggestions to motivate/record/map/etc I'd like to hear from you!
My setup as I said is OruxMaps for cycling. I tried IpBike which is not bad either, but didn't like the UI. I also tried a couple of other apps, but haven't seen anything that I liked. Apparently Cyclemeter is great on the i-Devices but their FAQ says: "We do hope to do an Android version of our app, but it’s not in our near term plans. We’ve had a great response from customers on the iPhone, and they provide lots of feedback for us about new features they’d like to see. Wish we could have said otherwise, it would be great to have you as a customer!"
OruxMaps uses MapMyTracks.com for live tracking and you can email the GPX of your ride to Strava straight from the app. BTW, I have no association with OruxMaps!
For running I have a premium subscription with Endomondo. I like the flexibility of the audio coach and I just noticed that they have a new beta feature on their website: 'Training Plans' where you enter your goal, goal date, number of training days, pace, etc and it creates a... Training Plan. Probably not as good as getting a customised training plan from a coach, but it's probably on par to the generic ones you can find online. I also export my runs and import them to Strava.
Regarding Strava, they have a much better looking website than Endomondo, and without a doubt the segments for cycling are awesome, but their apps are a long way from being great. Apart from being much less customisable, they only support Zephyr HxM and have no plans on supporting Polar HRMs. Apparently "there are connectivity issues with Polar HRMs and they want to give their customers the best possible experience!". I have used my Polar HRM with a number of different apps, phones and Android versions and it seems to be working fine 99% of the time, so I don't see why they can't support it. Also, it's hard to justify paying almost double of what Endomondo's premium subscription costs - but perhaps their analysis is better?
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Hi,
I can tell you to try the uBike.apk
For me is the best for cycling.
Regards
Joao
I've been considering buying this device to be used for working out as well, so thanks for confirming that Google Play Music will work on it! I'll be interesting to see if things get better with different ROMs.
Amazing! I thought I was the only one. I was on a year long quest to find the perfect (and better) substitute for the ever popular garmin 800 series. I do a lot of credit card touring, lots of country riding where I create the route using ridewithgps, DL as gpx and off I go. Oruxmaps has proved to be the perfect app for me when I'm doing any real riding/recording, and I use an app called Osmand+ if I'm doing a little bit more exploratory or want better navigation options (its got far better offline POI capabilities, so it helps if you get stuck in a rainstorm and need to find some kind of nearby shelter). I'm pumped to hear someone else went this route as most of my racing buddies are too high brow to get anything other than a garmin.
On a sidenote, I came up with a pretty incredible and simple (read: easy to do if you're a dummy with epoxy) way to get the male bit of the garmin mount on the back of the xperia so I could use all the low profile and cool garmin mounts. If you're interested let me know and I can give you a super easy step by step.
All that said, I'm really struggling to find a reason to root/mod the phone. I use it purely as a cycling computer right now (but plan to probably get my music on there too depending on battery life). It performs amazingly at this task as-is. Super snappy, the only thing I hate is having to look at the extra icons of the apps I'll never use. One thing I really wanted to get from rooting was the ability to skip the lock screen as that gets pretty annoying during a ride and potentially so I could remap the hardware buttons to something more useful while cycling (perhaps have it cycle through all the available apps? dunno, but it sounds cool). But, I found an app that lets you skip the lockscreen, so that major requirement has already been met.
Aside from the bloatware, have you found any nice advantages to rooting and putting on CM? Thanks in advance -
Rick
Hi Rick,
If is possible for you to send this to mu email acount ([email protected]) I thank you very much.
Regards
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On a sidenote, I came up with a pretty incredible and simple (read: easy to do if you're a dummy with epoxy) way to get the male bit of the garmin mount on the back of the xperia so I could use all the low profile and cool garmin mounts. If you're interested let me know and I can give you a super easy step by step.
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Thanks for the replies guys! I was sure that there must've been other Active users/fans!
@optiplus Thanks, had a look and looks interesting! I'll have to give it ago!
@tartanblue @laquer09 What I found when I flashed CM10 was that the phone is snappier and the battery lasts a lot longer. Although I didn't do any scientific testing, with the stock ROM I would ride for an hour or so, leave it unplugged overnight and that was that pretty much. (no other usage, just on standby) With CM10 I was really surprised that it lasted a similar ride and more than 48 hours on standby. It's not a huge achievement in the sense that I have turned off all syncing, there's no Facebook or anything running, but the stock ROM has a lot of stuff running. Another thing that CM10 fixed was the super annoying flickering issue and also, at full brightness at CM10 is a lot brighter than stock, which seemed to go very bright as soon as I unlocked it and then dim. I checked the setting and it was not on auto brightness and tried with the Bravia engine on and off. Didn't work. CM10 fixed it.
I like having the screen on during the right to check cadence, speed, etc as I ride, so on the odd occasion that we were graced with a sunny day, increased brightness helped! Although I think OruxMaps has a setting to keep the screen on I use Screebl (I've linked to the paid version, but there's a free Lite version too which works well, but I found it so useful, that I just had to support the dev. I've been using it since the days of my HTC Magic - Oh how far we've come!!)
Also, as a stock Nexus user, Sony's software is just... revolting! Even the little things like the toggles in the notifications drawer is great. (and I prefer the CM way to the Google way... but what can you do?)
Having said that, for purely cycling purposes I guess stock or CM10 doesn't make a huge difference. Also, flashing the Active was a bit more complicated than I would've liked.
Regarding mounts, I got the xperia active bike holder from SportyPal (Review) and it's simple, solid and having the Active on it really looks like it's a Garmin. (when I read it back it looked like I was embarrassed about using the Active instead of the Garmin, but I didn't mean it like that!! Just that the whole mount+Active combo is quite diminutive!)
I also recently heard about the Finn and thought for 12 euros it'd be rude not to get one. When the weather is good I'd like to try recording with OruxMaps on the Active and maybe the Strava Cycling app on the Nexus 4 and see how different the results are.
Honestly though I do wish Strava pulled their finger out and sorted out their apps. How cool (and I imagine relatively easy for developers who are worth their salt) it would be to have proper BT/Ant+ support, customisable dashboard and segment notifier which would buzz to let you know that you're entering a segment!! And they would totally kill it if they added track creation capabilities on their website! But I'm just dreaming!
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Hi Rick,
If is possible for you to send this to mu email acount ([email protected]) I thank you very much.
Regards
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I can email you as well, but I kinda thought other folks might like to see this so I posted it up here. Let me know if you still need the email.
Things you need:
1. The male bit of the garmin mount. These are not easy to find because for the most part, the male bit is part of the plastic mold on garmin devices. However, I found this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006BACP6A/ref=pe_385040_30332190_pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_i1
2. Epoxy putty - http://spasandmore.com/catalog/quic...ts-to-repair-your-pool-spa-hot-tub-59502.html
3. A razor blade or hobby knife...something pretty dang sharp and fairly rigid. This will be used for cutting the male bit.
4. Like 45 minutes of time
What to do:
1. Take the male bit thingy from the package of stuff - image attached. Cut it around the raised edge. You can see where I cut mine in one of the attached images. The plastic was actually not difficult to cut, at all.
2. Score both the back of the xperia and the male bit pretty good. I used the edge of a scissor to do it and it worked fine.
3. Take out that epoxy, cut a bit of it off, and knead it with your fingers (basically, read the instructions on how to use it. I am not awesome at this kind of stuff and it was really straightforward).
4. Put the kneaded putty on the back of the phone, then simply press that male bit into the putty. Wait the recommended amount of time for setting (pretty sure its between 1-2 hours)
You're done. Go get whatever garmin mount you like (I really like the SRAM one that sits out in front of the bars, but you can use any of their mounts or the sweet looking barfly one.
Couple things to note
- I waaay overused the putty here. This was supposed to be my test case so I was overdoing it on purpose. Functionally its totally fine, but it is a tad ugly. After you plop the male bit onto the putty, you could probably trim a bunch of it.
- Scared its not going to hold? Don't worry, I was too. This is where that what-I-thought-was-completely-useless-lanyard comes into play. I actually put the lanyard in the phone and then ran the lanyard over my bars. I did this maybe for the first week, but I live in Chicago and I tested it using my cross bike / commuter over some really really really crappy roads with my tires at 110. I was pretty convinced after a week and stopped using the lanyard. And then I lowered my psi back to normal chicago 90 so my butt wouldn't hurt anymore Still, better safe than sorry right.
- One cool side benefit, among 100s of others, is the flashlight feature of the phone. Now, I just set it to strobe and turn it on at night...boom, no longer need a bike light
- Using bluetooth headphones and whatever music app you want rules. I didn't know how much I'd adore it before I tried...but having the ability to cycle through songs, albums, playlists....amazing.
- My xperia came with 2 backs...one black and one white. This, my supposed to be test case, is the white one. As you can see, it gets dirty. Might want to use the black one and maybe paint/marker up the putty so it matches.
Let me know if you've got any questions, and good luck. I could not be flipping happier about the way this all turned out, and my racing buddies are starting to get jealous. Lets see...a garmin 810 for 600 bucks, or a phone that has multiple options for mapping/tracking (free), can be your music player and emergency phone call maker (or anything else you can do with the android platform) for a whopping 188 bucks and maybe 20 bucks on the mount stuff.
Win
Rick
Thanks so much for posting this. I wanted to ask you in my previous post to put it somewhere like G+ or a cycling blog or something but I guess here is just fine!
laquer09 said:
I can email you as well, but I kinda thought other folks might like to see this so I posted it up here. Let me know if you still need the email.
Things you need:
1. The male bit of the garmin mount. These are not easy to find because for the most part, the male bit is part of the plastic mold on garmin devices. However, I found this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006BACP6A/ref=pe_385040_30332190_pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_i1
2. Epoxy putty - http://spasandmore.com/catalog/quic...ts-to-repair-your-pool-spa-hot-tub-59502.html
3. A razor blade or hobby knife...something pretty dang sharp and fairly rigid. This will be used for cutting the male bit.
4. Like 45 minutes of time
What to do:
1. Take the male bit thingy from the package of stuff - image attached. Cut it around the raised edge. You can see where I cut mine in one of the attached images. The plastic was actually not difficult to cut, at all.
2. Score both the back of the xperia and the male bit pretty good. I used the edge of a scissor to do it and it worked fine.
3. Take out that epoxy, cut a bit of it off, and knead it with your fingers (basically, read the instructions on how to use it. I am not awesome at this kind of stuff and it was really straightforward).
4. Put the kneaded putty on the back of the phone, then simply press that male bit into the putty. Wait the recommended amount of time for setting (pretty sure its between 1-2 hours)
You're done. Go get whatever garmin mount you like (I really like the SRAM one that sits out in front of the bars, but you can use any of their mounts or the sweet looking barfly one.
Couple things to note
- I waaay overused the putty here. This was supposed to be my test case so I was overdoing it on purpose. Functionally its totally fine, but it is a tad ugly. After you plop the male bit onto the putty, you could probably trim a bunch of it.
- Scared its not going to hold? Don't worry, I was too. This is where that what-I-thought-was-completely-useless-lanyard comes into play. I actually put the lanyard in the phone and then ran the lanyard over my bars. I did this maybe for the first week, but I live in Chicago and I tested it using my cross bike / commuter over some really really really crappy roads with my tires at 110. I was pretty convinced after a week and stopped using the lanyard. And then I lowered my psi back to normal chicago 90 so my butt wouldn't hurt anymore Still, better safe than sorry right.
- One cool side benefit, among 100s of others, is the flashlight feature of the phone. Now, I just set it to strobe and turn it on at night...boom, no longer need a bike light
- Using bluetooth headphones and whatever music app you want rules. I didn't know how much I'd adore it before I tried...but having the ability to cycle through songs, albums, playlists....amazing.
- My xperia came with 2 backs...one black and one white. This, my supposed to be test case, is the white one. As you can see, it gets dirty. Might want to use the black one and maybe paint/marker up the putty so it matches.
Let me know if you've got any questions, and good luck. I could not be flipping happier about the way this all turned out, and my racing buddies are starting to get jealous. Lets see...a garmin 810 for 600 bucks, or a phone that has multiple options for mapping/tracking (free), can be your music player and emergency phone call maker (or anything else you can do with the android platform) for a whopping 188 bucks and maybe 20 bucks on the mount stuff.
Win
Rick
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ntoqiakt said:
Thanks so much for posting this. I wanted to ask you in my previous post to put it somewhere like G+ or a cycling blog or something but I guess here is just fine!
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No problem - I'd love to post it on a cycling blog/forum if you can point me to the right one. There are so many out there...I've never actually joined any. I could also put it on G+...PM me your email address and I'll add you into one of my groups and post it there. Even though this solution was simple, it took me a darn long time to come up with and I'd love to save folks the time/effort/money/despair.
FWIW, I used it on a 60mi custom route I made this weekend and it was friggin flawless. Not a single missed turn and the route was perfect. I've recently started listening to music using it via my BT headphones. That is so much win I can barely handle it.
Rick
ntoqiakt said:
I recently bought a used Xperia Active mainly to be used as a cycling computer (with the awesome app OruxMaps) and for recording my runs using Endomondo. The stock ROM was bloated with all sorts so after a few days it just had to go.
First I flashed CM10.1 but apparently the BT stack is borked on that so Ant+ is not working, so I flashed CM10 and everything works great or at least everything that I need. It connects to my BT x-fit headphones, BT Polar HRM and Ant+ B'Twin Speed and Cadence sensor without any major issues - the audio cuts out occasionally but I'm not sure if it's an issue with Google Music/All Access or a 3G connectivity or BT issue and haven't bothered investigating to be honest.
NT
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Hello,
at the begining i would like say "hello" im new member on xda so BTW...
I'm looking for CM10 working with SE Xperia Active ST17I.
I saw that upgrade was succesfull.
Could You tell me where download (all links "died") or share package of working files to upgrade Xperia Active to CM10 and android 4.1.2?
I ve upgraded xperia to 4.0.4 and I would like try highest version of software. It is great device for active Cyclists.
Please help. Thank You for reply :good:
Regards
Hi,
While I think my Gear Fit is a very useful device it constantly lets me down on the training side. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
I bike quite a bit and I like the way the Health app stores my map speed etc. the way it does. Once in a blue moon. The problem is that 9 times out of 10 the cycling app will shut down all on its own while I'm still in the middle of my training session. Hysterically irritating to have all these half-recorded sessions in my phone. And there's no way I can check on progress while cycling. To get to the Health app and then on to cycling on the Gear Fit would be sure death when speeding along at 35 kph. At least for someone as unbalanced as myself.
So am I doing something wrong? Is there a setting for the Gear Fit that I've missed? Is anyone else having this problem, or am I just stuck with a buggy example of the otherwise very nifty piece of engineering? Oh, and whoever designed the strap for the Fit must absolutely have had repeat business in mind! It's fallen off, like, 100 times of its own accord. A miracle that it's still in my possession.
Grateful for any advice on the "keep alive" topic.
Thanks/M
McHan said:
Hi,
While I think my Gear Fit is a very useful device it constantly lets me down on the training side. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
I bike quite a bit and I like the way the Health app stores my map speed etc. the way it does. Once in a blue moon. The problem is that 9 times out of 10 the cycling app will shut down all on its own while I'm still in the middle of my training session. Hysterically irritating to have all these half-recorded sessions in my phone. And there's no way I can check on progress while cycling. To get to the Health app and then on to cycling on the Gear Fit would be sure death when speeding along at 35 kph. At least for someone as unbalanced as myself.
So am I doing something wrong? Is there a setting for the Gear Fit that I've missed? Is anyone else having this problem, or am I just stuck with a buggy example of the otherwise very nifty piece of engineering? Oh, and whoever designed the strap for the Fit must absolutely have had repeat business in mind! It's fallen off, like, 100 times of its own accord. A miracle that it's still in my possession.
Grateful for any advice on the "keep alive" topic.
Thanks/M
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Same here, but I have missed all my bicyclings. But I have solved issue. Taking pulse (beat of heart) off then the training have gone OK. I am a male and have hairs on my wrist. I haven't tryed if I would keep Gear Fit like womens do, wrong way around. I mean the display is under wrist and where are not any hairs or you have to keep your strap tighter than now.
Newest version bring pause function to Gear Fit training, but I agree that better would be if I can myself start and stop the bicycling training. It could stop automatically if you stand too long in traffic signal; GPS signal stays too long same. If this is true, then the clock is dangerous incitementing to run a red lights.
The pulse off settings is here: biking/ scroll right one screen (on landscape mode)/ pulse: take off tag of pulse.
EmDzei said:
Same here, but I have missed all my bicyclings. But I have solved issue. Taking pulse (beat of heart) off then the training have gone OK. I am a male and have hairs on my wrist. I haven't tryed if I would keep Gear Fit like womens do, wrong way around. I mean the display is under wrist and where are not any hairs or you have to keep your strap tighter than now.
Newest version bring pause function to Gear Fit training, but I agree that better would be if I can myself start and stop the bicycling training. It could stop automatically if you stand too long in traffic signal; GPS signal stays too long same. If this is true, then the clock is dangerous incitementing to run a red lights.
The pulse off settings is here: biking/ scroll right one screen (on landscape mode)/ pulse: take off tag of pulse.
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Hi EmDzei and thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately this did not solve the problem for me. Turned off the heart-sensor and have now tried two biking sessions but the Gear device stops recording after 10 and 25 minutes respectively. Pretty much the same results as before. A real pain in the nether regions! Does no one else have this problem? I've noticed that the phone "pings" every now and again and I'm wondering if it momentarily loses BT contact with the watch and that this somehow stops the Health recording. It does this at night also when I have the blocking mode enabled (which irritates the H-ll out of my wife, the soft pinging, that is). Any thoughts on this...?
Thanks/M
McHan said:
Hi EmDzei and thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately this did not solve the problem for me. Turned off the heart-sensor and have now tried two biking sessions but the Gear device stops recording after 10 and 25 minutes respectively. Pretty much the same results as before. A real pain in the nether regions! Does no one else have this problem? I've noticed that the phone "pings" every now and again and I'm wondering if it momentarily loses BT contact with the watch and that this somehow stops the Health recording. It does this at night also when I have the blocking mode enabled (which irritates the H-ll out of my wife, the soft pinging, that is). Any thoughts on this...?
Thanks/M
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Have to notice here at start that I am not so specialist for this case. But I can give one or two hint.
This hint could hit forest with full speed. I don't know if the bluetooth and WLAN are on same chip. But on WLAN (= Wi-Fi) extra settings and its sleep mode there are three settings: always, only when connected and never (increase mobile data). Simple translations from finnish. =) I use this middle settings: allways, when device is connected. I wrote this hint because you wrote that your device seems disconnect 10 - 25 minutes. WLAN disconnecting time is similar: 15 minutes, if on sleep mode. As I said, this could be very very wrong information.
OK. Next our possible version differents. My Gear Fit firmware is R350XXU0BNE5. My Gear Fit Manager version is 1.67.0523 and I use it on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505) stock un-rooted firmware version UFNB9. Last five serial character of Gear Fit are LRXW. I do not use blocking mode on Gear Fit. I use it on my phone and disable sync at nights.
Today I tested and bicycled 26,52 km. I visited two times on markets and paused my "training". All session took 1:44 hour (so beautifull day and sunshine). Does your bicycling have Pause button when you started the trip? My previous version of this doesn't and with it I had problems with cutted bicycle trainings. My phone lay on own bicycle mounting holder, so the bluetooth signal is very stong and distance ~50 - 60 cm only.
Uh, last comments. You have of course made a Samsung account and it sync works OK? I think also that keeping LTE off when biking outside of the city fairway, if it is not strong signal. Good to try in this desperation, eh.
EmDzei said:
Have to notice here at start that I am not so specialist for this case. But I can give one or two hint.
This hint could hit forest with full speed. I don't know if the bluetooth and WLAN are on same chip. But on WLAN (= Wi-Fi) extra settings and its sleep mode there are three settings: always, only when connected and never (increase mobile data). Simple translations from finnish. =) I use this middle settings: allways, when device is connected. I wrote this hint because you wrote that your device seems disconnect 10 - 25 minutes. WLAN disconnecting time is similar: 15 minutes, if on sleep mode. As I said, this could be very very wrong information.
OK. Next our possible version differents. My Gear Fit firmware is R350XXU0BNE5. My Gear Fit Manager version is 1.67.0523 and I use it on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505) stock un-rooted firmware version UFNB9. Last five serial character of Gear Fit are LRXW. I do not use blocking mode on Gear Fit. I use it on my phone and disable sync at nights.
Today I tested and bicycled 26,52 km. I visited two times on markets and paused my "training". All session took 1:44 hour (so beautifull day and sunshine). Does your bicycling have Pause button when you started the trip? My previous version of this doesn't and with it I had problems with cutted bicycle trainings. My phone lay on own bicycle mounting holder, so the bluetooth signal is very stong and distance ~50 - 60 cm only.
Uh, last comments. You have of course made a Samsung account and it sync works OK? I think also that keeping LTE off when biking outside of the city fairway, if it is not strong signal. Good to try in this desperation, eh.
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A-HA! I think You hit on the solution to the problem in Your very last comment. I've been trying various combinations of settings on both the Gear Fit and on the phone, but to no avail. Then finally it struck me that, yes! I have been experiencing issues when shifting between LTE and other modes, and that possibly possibly this could have something to do with my problems. And so, sure enough, when I blocked off 4G and went for my daily today I finally got the whole ride recorded in the phone!
So many thanks for putting me on this track and fining the solution for me, EmDzei!
I think it is the best fitness companion and here's why.
It has phone.
Heart rate monitor.
Music player with Bluetooth headset.
Light weight.
Tracks steps
GPS.
@NeatSheep
NeatSheep said:
I think it is the best fitness companion and here's why.
It has phone.
Heart rate monitor.
Music player with Bluetooth headset.
Light weight.
Tracks steps
GPS.
@NeatSheep
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I think the pedometer on the note 4 is much better then on the gear s. It says I have walked way more then my phone does. Off by about 700 steps from the phone. Watch showing more. I was in the car most of the day today so not sure how I did 2k steps.
rfs830 said:
I think the pedometer on the note 4 is much better then on the gear s. It says I have walked way more then my phone does. Off by about 700 steps from the phone. Watch showing more. I was in the car most of the day today so not sure how I did 2k steps.
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How much of this is because you literally do not have the phone in your hand as much as the watch on your wrist?
I am coming from the fitbit line and this watch tends to give me less credit the fitbits do.
So, I just get a base line number and improve about it.
Look at the photos. To me the watch is much better
@NeatSheep
By the way it's measuring my steps, speed, location heart rate at the same time with a chart and a map. You can see that in the photos
@NeatSheep
NeatSheep said:
By the way it's measuring my steps, speed, location heart rate at the same time with a chart and a map. You can see that in the photos
@NeatSheep
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I will have to test it out at work as im always walking there. Maybe it is better. I never had a pedometer that was not my phone so maybe this is more accurate.
NeatSheep said:
By the way it's measuring my steps, speed, location heart rate at the same time with a chart and a map. You can see that in the photos
@NeatSheep
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Does the s health app give you verbal specs for while you are out? Like split times, or lap times and such?
Yes you you choose an exercise it will start recording the time, distance, speed, calories burned, location on the map and heart rate.
@NeatSheep
The problem with a pedometer on your wrist is that it will register steps just from the movement of you hand. If you are like me and move your hands a lot when you speak, or point a lot at a board (I'm a teacher) it registers way more steps than a pedometer attached to your hip or a phone in your pocket.
I also note that when I'm sitting at my desk, flipping pages of an article or assignment will register steps too ?
To be honest. If it making you move more the it's doing its job. And the normal steps they don't do much and it can tell you the healthy pace that really matters.
And you can only depend on the star an exercise function and it can tell the time you moved so you look at the chart and remove the steps that you know that are not correct.
There is may ways to solve the problem but i say if it's making you feel good and makes to want more and move more then why not.
@NeatSheep
richlum said:
The problem with a pedometer on your wrist is that it will register steps just from the movement of you hand. If you are like me and move your hands a lot when you speak, or point a lot at a board (I'm a teacher) it registers way more steps than a pedometer attached to your hip or a phone in your pocket.
I also note that when I'm sitting at my desk, flipping pages of an article or assignment will register steps too ?
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I had two Nike Fuelbands, and believe you need to look at any wrist device like they do. They all give you "points", whether they call them Fuel or steps, etc. Just establish a baseline and improve from there. I put my hands on my knee during biking at the gym, and get points this way, and don't worry that the elliptical is not real steps either, and I use the poles on this machine instead of keeping my hands stationary on the smaller arm rest handles. Improvement is the key. I lost 88 lbs. this year and credit my Gear 2 very much in helping me push my goals daily. I have it set still at 11000, but today got 16,000 points for example. Have fun with it. I am loving the new Gear S too.
True. If you use it to establish a baseline and set goals, it should be a good way to motivate yourself and improve.
I just laugh when it says I've 8,000 steps and I know if just sat on my ass in the office and car all day
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The problem with a pedometer on your wrist is that it will register steps just from the movement of you hand. If you are like me and move your hands a lot when you speak, or point a lot at a board (I'm a teacher) it registers way more steps than a pedometer attached to your hip or a phone in your pocket.
I also note that when I'm sitting at my desk, flipping pages of an article or assignment will register steps too ?
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I have never gotten that to work flipping pages.
Go through a normal day and see the number steps you get. Then set your goal higher than that. Nothing will be perfect, but that gets "you" moving more, and isn't that the goal?
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I had two Nike Fuelbands, and believe you need to look at any wrist device like they do. They all give you "points", whether they call them Fuel or steps, etc. Just establish a baseline and improve from there. I put my hands on my knee during biking at the gym, and get points this way, and don't worry that the elliptical is not real steps either, and I use the poles on this machine instead of keeping my hands stationary on the smaller arm rest handles. Improvement is the key. I lost 88 lbs. this year and credit my Gear 2 very much in helping me push my goals daily. I have it set still at 11000, but today got 16,000 points for example. Have fun with it. I am loving the new Gear S too.
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Congrats! [emoji2]
1) Does it have Nike+ app already?
2) Has anybody used any semi pro watch in the past? Forerunner, ambit? Just wondering how Gear S compared to those devices.
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Yes it has a Nike+
And most pedometer not professional.
I have a Garmin GPS watch. I can compare them together if you want
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Yes it has a Nike+
And most pedometer not professional.
I have a Garmin GPS watch. I can compare them together if you want
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I have many questions.. if you can answer - that's nice. I have experience with Garmin Forerunner 620 and Endomondo mobile app. Both suites me fine. And I just want to know if Gear S can replace them.
1) How often would you need to charge it if you would do 1 hour running every second day?
2) Is heartbeat recorded during the running or after the run? Is HB recorded by Nike+ app?
3) Can Nike+ app:
- Show average pace of the last kilometer? (after each km)
- Vibrate or in any other way inform every 1km?
4) In one of the videos I've seen Endomondo icon in Gear S. Have you tried it?
- Can Gear S+Endomondo work without!! the phone? That would be ideal solution for me.
- That stuff Endomondo records during workout? GPS coordinates? Heart rate?
Ok lets see. First i have garmin forerunner 910xt and i stopped using it and replaced it with gear s.
1. I charge my gear s sometimes every 2 days and the fact that the charger has a battery is good for me because sometimes i change it on the way to work.
2. I didnt run with the watch but walked really fast and it kept recording my heart rate during that time.
3. Nike+ works without phone after setup(UPDATE )************
4. Endomondo don't work without the phone
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If Even Nike+ can't work without a phone - that's a no go for me
Does that mean that only Samsung fitness apps can utilize the mobility and GPS of Gear S?
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Ok lets see. First i have garmin forerunner 910xt and i stopped using it and replaced it with gear s.
1. I charge my gear s sometimes every 2 days and the fact that the charger has a battery is good for me because sometimes i change it on the way to work.
2. I didnt run with the watch but walked really fast and it kept recording my heart rate during that time.
3. and 4. Endomondo and nike+ don't work without the phone
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How are you getting away with charging every 2 days? When i use the gear s for my runs it needs a charge every 11 hours.
Ninja, how long are your runs?
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Is there any way to log the changes in barometric pressure, for example to show the progress of a storm ?
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Is there any way to log the changes in barometric pressure, for example to show the progress of a storm ?
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You can make an app logging the pressure. You can get pressure value like normal android sensors. Barometer's sensor number is 6.
I couldn't But it would be a useful feature even if it was only an up down arrow to indicate rising or falling pressure.
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I couldn't But it would be a useful feature even if it was only an up down arrow to indicate rising or falling pressure.
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You can see a working code about pressure measurement in my GreatFit project in this class.
Hi, since then, did you find an app doing what you were looking for ? I'd like such an app too (when sailing atmospheric pressure changes are essential)
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Hi, since then, did you find an app doing what you were looking for ? I'd like such an app too (when sailing atmospheric pressure changes are essential)
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No. It's such an obvious, useful feature. Seems strange that no one has written an app for it. Maybe because people assume that the "weather" app provides accurate local forecasting.
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No. It's such an obvious, useful feature. Seems strange that no one has written an app for it. Maybe because people assume that the "weather" app provides accurate local forecasting.
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Not that strange.
Not that simple to write an app to run in the background to log pressure readings. And a graph on Pace!
Sounds like a lot of work to me, but let me see if I can do something.
Nah, not an April fools joke.
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Not that strange.
Not that simple to write an app to run in the background to log pressure readings. And a graph on Pace!
Sounds like a lot of work to me, but let me see if I can do something.
Nah, not an April fools joke.
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It's already been done & works on the Pace.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ghsoft.barometergraph
But the measurement interval is too short. It needs to measure pressure every 30 mins & simply show if the reading is higher or lower than the previous reading. It's the trend that's important so a simple up/down arrow would do. Suunto manage it really well.
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It's already been done & works on the Pace.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ghsoft.barometergraph
But the measurement interval is too short. It needs to measure pressure every 30 mins & simply show if the reading is higher or lower than the previous reading. It's the trend that's important so a simple up/down arrow would do.
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Yes, I know, have used it.
Suunto manage it really well.
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That's a built-in system app.
Let's hope Amazfit watches would have something like that from some firmware update someday.
Of course, it can also be done for Pace.
My point is that it's not so simple & takes lots of time. So, it's not strange that most devs won't have much free time to do it for free.
But like I said I will see what I can do.
Hey guys! I got Amazfit Bip U as a present recently, and I have a question. I was doing some jump rope, and I entered that workout mode on my watch. After I finished, I closed the workout mode, and later I noticed that the watch counted "steps" while I was doing jump rope. So it seems that I burned calories from both jump rope AND walking at the same time. I am new with all that smartwatch thing, so I was wondering if there is some feature that allows me to disable the counter while I am performing another workout, and that I can able it later when I finish. I e-mailed Amazfit support twice already and never got an answer. I am a bit frustrated xD Thank you!
Well it is how it is, you will not be able to disable steps counting during any workout. Your best shot is to go into activities and check your burned calories in there (as for the workout). No way to separate workout and daily kcal tho. Just to clarify - it's the same pattern for all huami watches (other brands too I believe).