Hi Everyone.
From Last 8-9 Days I'm Facing Heating ISSUE in My Poco F1 ROSSO RED 6+64 GB.
In Normal Usage Battery Temperature Gone To 40 Degrees And While Playing Games Like PUBG Battery Temperature Is 45-46 Degrees.
I Tried A Factory Reset Formated All My Data
Clean Flash.
Tried With Other Kernals Tried With Custom Rom But Same Problem Battery Heating issue.
Where is The Liquid Cooling.
Other Phones like OnePlus 6 You Can Play PUBG While Charging The Device But Never Face Heating ISSUE.
PoCo F1 Comes With Liquid Cooling.
But Heating ISSUE Is A Very Big Problem For Me.
I Saw On Mi Community. Users Also Facing Same Problem.
Is There Any Fix For This Problem.
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maybe because of thermal profile of miui. i think thermal profile is the cause of this..
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maybe because of thermal profile of miui. i think thermal profile is the cause of this..
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with Normal Usage Like YouTube WhatsApp Phone calls Battery Temperature is 40 Degree.
Snapdragon 845 Easily handle This.
Cpu temperature is Normal but battery temperature is high.
I flashed stock thermals but didn't work.
Liquid cooling was for the CPU, not for the battery.
(Look at the video of JerryRigsEverything's teardown video on Pocophone F1)
The normal working temps for the Lipo battery (Lithium Polymer Battery) which Pocophone F1 has, is -20°c to 60°c during discharge but when recharging, you should have temps around 0°c to 45°c so it is better to charge it IDLE, not charging it while gaming.
The effects when charging it while using it or like doing heavy task will sometimes discharging it while charging (thermal throttling) when above 45°c and disables the Quick Charge feature.
I've tested it myself. So you should not use your Phone while charging unless you use it for light usage while charging (Browsing FB, watching memes on 9Gag, etc.)
Conclusion:
Yes, 40°c in normal usage is normal and 45-46°c is good.
Just don't charge it while gaming.
I didn't charge the phone while Playing games.
Temperature Gone 45 Degrees.
But first when I got this poco F1 never facing heating issue.
I think it's related to vendor.
Remove back cover or any type of pouches then use
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Remove back cover or any type of pouches then use
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Already Tried not too much difference.
Now This Vendor 9.1.24 is Outdated.
I tried with 9.4.1 battery temperature 46 while playing games.
Always stay at 40 Degree.
Hope Xiaomi Will Fix This Very Irritating issue.
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I am using 9.4.12 miui EU with arter97 r4 kernel heating issue completely gone.
In latest update heating issue coming again.
45-46 while playing games.
Always stay on 40 degree.
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I made this thread so that we can discuss about batteries and battery temperatures and how can we make our batteries more sustainable , i recently got my battery dead after 9 months of use so now im having a new battery. (My phone use is HARDCORE)
Recently ive noted that mobile is getting hot so i started to monitor my battery , im getting normal temperature in standby arround 30°C-33°C and when i normally use the phone it reaches upto 35°C-38°C but while playing games it starts getting above 40°C - sometimes 43/44°C and it feels hot too.
So i was just curious to know if there are people in xda who monitor their battery regularly. It would be good if everyone will post their battery temperatures so that everyone of us can have an idea of battery temperatures.
The app i use to monitor battery is "Battery Indicator Pro".
Thanks.
About the same on my infuse
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have samsung galaxy mini 2. on stock rom and peter's rom, battery would discharge around 2 and a half, 3 days. flashed few more times, now i need to charge him once a day. temp is around 20-25, depends
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have samsung galaxy mini 2. on stock rom and peter's rom, battery would discharge around 2 and a half, 3 days. flashed few more times, now i need to charge him once a day. temp is around 20-25, depends
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That depends on your usage.
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Its usually 37-45 C
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Its usually 37-45 C
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45? Isnt it too high? Or its just fine?
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45? Isnt it too high? Or its just fine?
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Kinda high, it does that when charging, pretty annoying...
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Mine also goes upto 42°C
I have yuphoria on stock android. Its temp is 35c when idle , during normal usage 38-39c and while watching YouTube for 15-20 min it goes to 40-41c
It mostly depends on the device cooling mechanism.
Mine's Redmi Note 10. Unlike other phones, that come with at least copper heatsinks, mine literally got nothing but open aluminium sheets & a polycarbonate outer cover.
Stock MIUI temps are very bad. You can feel at your fingers radiating warm air.
After I unlocked & use a rom like lineage (without any bloat & heavy apps), temps really got down stable.
On hot summer, on standby, it usually sits at 32-33⁰c. On idle usage, it goes upto 38⁰c when I use social media. And 40-41⁰c when I watch YouTube at 720p. I think these are good numbers despite not having a cooling heatsink mechanism.
I go screen off at 100F.
If you're getting high temperature shutdowns you are at risk of damaging the device...
100% charge, high current drain, high temperatures, back to back high current drain/ charge cycles with no rest inbetween, discharging past 20%, charging with screen on... will take their tolls.
A battery should last at least a year and I'm a very heavy user. However if your SOT is higher than 14%@hour you are killing the battery. This type of Li doesn't like constant high current drain especially at temperatures above 102F.
Any battery swelling is a failure, replace it immediately.
Never charge below 72F, a minimum start temperature of 82F is better. Low temperature charging can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Essential Phone stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Have not experienced any heating at all
I am experiencing heating issues, I would like to know if it's just me and hopefully I just have a defective device. The battery Temp stays around 49 Celsius
My phone does get a little hot... Altho I was jus using Google duo which uses a lot of resources I believe... Not 100% if that's the case tho, and it cooled rather quickly after I ended the phone call...
I'm not experiencing any heat on the phone at all.
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It gets pretty warm when I quick charge and use the phone at the same time but I think that goes for most of the phones out there
It won't get very hot. If the internal temp gets to 44C (112F) it aggressively throttles the big cluster down to about 1.2GHz, which is about half the maximum speed.
At 41C its down to 1.8GHz
At 40C its down to 2.1GHz
So in the span from 39C-43C (102F-109F) The performance drops by 50%.
A 4 degree C temperature span. This is the most aggressive throttling I've seen in any device I've owned.
I noticed this morning during charging the phone is getting too hot to touch around the upper right corner where the 360 camera attaches (which I don't have.)
no heat issues here yet.
Ya I am having some issues when I charge my phone and watch YouTube at the same time
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I am experiencing heating issues, I would like to know if it's just me and hopefully I just have a defective device. The battery Temp stays around 49 Celsius
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Mine is hot at times as well. How can you tell the temperature of the battery?
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I noticed this morning during charging the phone is getting too hot to touch around the upper right corner where the 360 camera attaches (which I don't have.)
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Same here I feel it at times of heavy usage and charging
Accu battery says I'm around 107.4 F when I'm charging and using heavy. But that's the hottest it gets. I generally sit it next to a fan whenever I experience this. But it does nothing for internal temp which stays at 107.4 but the outside is cool to touch. And now that I think about it I may be wing about the temp. Not sure if it was 104.7 or 107.4. But that's besides the point.
Yes this phone does get hot at time of heavy gaming/ usage/ etc
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Mine is hot at times as well. How can you tell the temperature of the battery?
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I use Ampere, and put a 1x1 widget on the home screen. The widget shows the mA (+/-), battery status (charging/discharging), battery %, and battery temp.
No heat issues, not even playing Pokemon Go.
I ran my phone on battery with Waze on for 2 hours and the display turned off, made a few long phone calls along the way, the phone was very cool IMHO based on other phones I had that I would run Waze on. Only used about 25% of the battery in this 2 hour timeframe with Waze, phone calls, emails coming in and news alerts popping up occasionally. Then connect the phone to a cheap USB-C phone charger that is probably low current and drove another hour and the phone was still cool.
I have not checked temperatures, but from the handling of the phone, it clearly did not feel warm.
So far, so good IMHO.
heating issues with essential phone
having heat issues when I'm using as a hotspot for video. nothing of concern.
Never had any heat issues on 7.1 or 8.1
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Hi I'm using poco F1 from past 1 month and I'm really fed up of heating issue. I never play any game in my mobile but still I face heating issue just for WhatsApp, YouTube and prime video, and it reaches to 46°.. Is this what liquid cooling for??? Pls fix the issue ASAP or pls tell me what should I do to resolve the heating issue. I vil be waiting for ur reply.. Thank you..
Bhavish Aradhya said:
Hi I'm using poco F1 from past 1 month and I'm really fed up of heating issue. I never play any game in my mobile but still I face heating issue just for WhatsApp, YouTube and prime video, and it reaches to 46°.. Is this what liquid cooling for??? Pls fix the issue ASAP or pls tell me what should I do to resolve the heating issue. I vil be waiting for ur reply.. Thank you..
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46°C is normal when browsing, watching YT, playing PUBG or any games. 50°C-60°C is still good but don't let it go to 70°C might you will experience system crashes, unexpected reboot or system damage
Thank you for the reply but my doubt is, it as liquid cooling system and many of u posted that it reaches 46°c while playing pubg, but normal use also it reaches 46°c???
What is the ambience temperature when you're using? If you're in a room with temperature of 40, then the device will reach 45 bro.
YouTube is also a heavy app.
Try to factory reset and then start as new and not copy data from drive. It helps for some reason.
The problem is people dont factor in the ambient temperature. Sit in a room without fan in summer season and you will heat up. Similarly your phone is heating since its summers in india. The temperature has risen by 10-20 degrees celsius in the last couple of months. So that affects your cell too.
The normal room temperature in india in summers without active cooling is around 35. Your phone cannot go below that temp no matter the liquid cooling.
So to your question, its summers so thats why 46 is normal under load. Sit in a ac room or a cooler place and you will not notice heating. Its just plain old physics.
Nothing wrong with your phone. And naturally when phone temp rises, battery drains faster. So chillax and wait for the summers to pass.
Ok u people say 46 is normal ?
But none others heat this much .
OnePlus while charging stays at 38 ..
Redmi n7 stays at 39 ...
Then why my poco reaches 46 in the normal time even if I don't use the device
All this numerical value are seen at the same time and same Place with same apps running
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Bhavish Aradhya said:
Hi I'm using poco F1 from past 1 month and I'm really fed up of heating issue. I never play any game in my mobile but still I face heating issue just for WhatsApp, YouTube and prime video, and it reaches to 46°.. Is this what liquid cooling for??? Pls fix the issue ASAP or pls tell me what should I do to resolve the heating issue. I vil be waiting for ur reply.. Thank you..
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The same frekin issue I'm facing
The Oneplus and Note 7 is it yours?
Test it at the same place?
Heating issue on poco
Yeah I'm also facing same issue
When I put my poco f1 to charge it's gets heated up very quickly
Also while playing pubg, it gets heated a lot more than expected.
Is it a software issue after the update 10.3.4 or is my Liquid Cooling not working?
Are you using any custom rom or a custom kernel?
You know nothing OP!
When your phone goes above 65 is when you need to start to worry a bit. Just use your phone, enjoy and read a little bit about second law of thermodynamics..
P.S Please stop posting stupid things on this forum, there are 1000 threads about "heating". They are all bull****, but they exist, search them.
Hello guys,
So the other day I was messing with thermals and I flashed a thermal that basically removes entire thermal throttling. Because of that, I was able to charge my phone at 33wat constantly for about 20 mins. The charging speed was super awesome, but I'm wondering is it safe to do so constantly? When I was back on stock settings, the charge speed would randomly fluctuate b/w 10-18 watt but with no throttling it just constantly remains on 33watt.
So again is it safe to keep charging my phone on these higher voltages constantly?
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Hello guys,
So the other day I was messing with thermals and I flashed a thermal that basically removes entire thermal throttling. Because of that, I was able to charge my phone at 33wat constantly for about 20 mins. The charging speed was super awesome, but I'm wondering is it safe to do so constantly? When I was back on stock settings, the charge speed would randomly fluctuate b/w 10-18 watt but with no throttling it just constantly remains on 33watt.
So again is it safe to keep charging my phone on these higher voltages constantly?
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Not knowing enough about this, I'd assume it's not safe and that heating of the battery would be the issue and would lead to your battery being cooked over a series of charging cycles, but I see your point temperature was not excessive (34°) - I'd advise using an app to record moment by moment charging temperature
Assuming you didn't have your phone in a pool of cooled mineral oil during charging I'd assume that you've just become a test pilot. Let us know what happens... [consider also the possibility that your house might burn down]
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Not knowing enough about this, I'd assume it's not safe and that heating of the battery would be the issue and would lead to your battery being cooked over a series of charging cycles, but I see your point temperature was not excessive (34°) - I'd advise using an app to record moment by moment charging temperature
Assuming you didn't have your phone in a pool of cooled mineral oil during charging I'd assume that you've just become a test pilot. Let us know what happens... [consider also the possibility that your house might burn down]
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OK thanks for your insights. Yes I did some research on my own. Particularly from battery university (yes that's a thing, a whole website..) and I learned that as long as your battery temp doesn't hit 50c you can do whatever you want because in the end your phone only ever draws enough power that its circuitry was designed for. So that information was enough for me to continue my journey into hotter waters.
So far, during charging from 49% to 80% my poco only took about 17 mins to reach there and right when it reached 80c that I saw it start to throttle a bit so by the time it was 82, the watts came down to 25-28 range. So I guess that's hardware throttling in effect since I have already got the software ones removed? And anyway during these 17 mins, while the ambient temp at my place was 32c, the battery temp soared as far as 43c. I believe I would frequently hit the same temp even when I had all thermal enabled running on stock setup. So we can safely rule out that it didn't happen because of not having thermals but just because the ambaint + charging had their own way.
Lastly, I would continue doing this for few more days checking under air-conditioned room next and see how it goes. For now I'm sticking with 20-80 battery rule because that's supposed to be the safest thing in the world of li-on batteries.
Normally quickcharge will keep stuff safe so it will adjust accordingly.
If temps would get over 40-45 deg. c. over a long time it would take a hit on the 'life' of the cell.
Charging slow and between a range of 10 and 90% will help cell life for sure.
what kind of adapter were you using to get 33 watts? most i've seen on my phone is 22 or something watts
also, what font is that if you don't mind me asking
mine does 33 watts too ??
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what kind of adapter were you using to get 33 watts? most i've seen on my phone is 22 or something watts
also, what font is that if you don't mind me asking
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Stock adapter that comes with box. And font is from IOS. Available in handy magisk model. Search inside magisk manager.
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Yep its 33watt as shown. What's your Rom + kernel setup?
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Yep its 33watt as shown. What's your Rom + kernel setup?
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Pixel Experience w/f2fs (7/22/2019) + Optimus Drunk kernel latest
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Pixel Experience w/f2fs (7/22/2019) + Optimus Drunk kernel latest
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Whats the deal about f2fs I keep seeing this pop every once in a while but never got enough details on it. Since you are using it, can you educate me what it's and does it even make any difference?
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Whats the deal about f2fs I keep seeing this pop every once in a while but never got enough details on it. Since you are using it, can you educate me what it's and does it even make any difference?
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It's a file system for android, and yes it does make quite a decent (not like huge) difference when you load up apps (f2fs is usually used in the /data partition) basically apps open faster and it makes the phone feels snappier.
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OK thanks for your insights. Yes I did some research on my own. Particularly from battery university (yes that's a thing, a whole website..) and I learned that as long as your battery temp doesn't hit 50c you can do whatever you want because in the end your phone only ever draws enough power that its circuitry was designed for. So that information was enough for me to continue my journey into hotter waters.
So far, during charging from 49% to 80% my poco only took about 17 mins to reach there and right when it reached 80c that I saw it start to throttle a bit so by the time it was 82, the watts came down to 25-28 range. So I guess that's hardware throttling in effect since I have already got the software ones removed? And anyway during these 17 mins, while the ambient temp at my place was 32c, the battery temp soared as far as 43c. I believe I would frequently hit the same temp even when I had all thermal enabled running on stock setup. So we can safely rule out that it didn't happen because of not having thermals but just because the ambaint + charging had their own way.
Lastly, I would continue doing this for few more days checking under air-conditioned room next and see how it goes. For now I'm sticking with 20-80 battery rule because that's supposed to be the safest thing in the world of li-on batteries.
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But, how long does it take to reach 49% from 0% or from 20% as you say you follow the 20-80 rule?
Removing thermals is not a good idea, I'm not an expert but I get more fluid experience playing CODM , capping the max speed of all proccesors to 1.7ghz , and keep the phone charging at low voltage. I can play for hours at 60fps and the battery never hits 44c. Removing thermals and processor's cap, I would have a great 15 minutes of game and then it would be very hot and hardware throttle, to the extreme of even get only 20 frames /sec or even less.
All that heat is bad for battery and the components. The battery will go bad faster, inflating in worst cases, and the IPS panel can get permanent ghosting. I know this from previous devices poco included. I do gaming for hours. Removing thermals + gaming at high brightness is bad.
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Removing thermals is not a good idea, I'm not an expert but I get more fluid experience playing CODM , capping the max speed of all proccesors to 1.7ghz , and keep the phone charging at low voltage. I can play for hours at 60fps and the battery never hits 44c. Removing thermals and processor's cap, I would have a great 15 minutes of game and then it would be very hot and hardware throttle, to the extreme of even get only 20 frames /sec or even less.
All that heat is bad for battery and the components. The battery will go bad faster, inflating in worst cases, and the IPS panel can get permanent ghosting. I know this from previous devices poco included. I do gaming for hours. Removing thermals + gaming at high brightness is bad.
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Um, you don't just remove thermal limitations and charge like yesterday.
That is useless and in some cases counter-intuitive.
You highly decrease the temperature to 14 degree Celsius to 26/28 Degree Celsius and charge in that.
However as you say, if you're doing high intense activities that use a lot of hardware, which generally heats the phone, then having a heated phone for extended periods of time *might* be bad for the battery, well having any electronic device heated is bad for the internal circuitry. I have a personal experience with this.
That said, as long as you're using your phone for mild to medium intensity activities like watching multi-media applications and surfing, calling, etc removing thermals will have no significant issues and not reduce the battery life because your phone is mostly never going above 35/36 degree Celsius.
Or if you can, remove thermals whenever you're charging and put them back on whenever you're not.
what
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Hello guys,
So the other day I was messing with thermals and I flashed a thermal that basically removes entire thermal throttling. Because of that, I was able to charge my phone at 33wat constantly for about 20 mins. The charging speed was super awesome, but I'm wondering is it safe to do so constantly? When I was back on stock settings, the charge speed would randomly fluctuate b/w 10-18 watt but with no throttling it just constantly remains on 33watt.
So again is it safe to keep charging my phone on these higher voltages constantly?
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what app is that?
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what app is that?
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FKM. Franco Kernel Manager.
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FKM. Franco Kernel Manager.
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ah, thanks
Is your device having this kind of issue over heating ?
20-30 minutes of normal usage, browsing in the internet. It makes my nord 2 overheat. Is it normal or faulty ?
It's not normal and I advise you to check what apps are using your battery
chrome and youtube are the only apps are running.
when i tried to reset my device.. after 5 minutes of configuration with data on.. it is overheating..
when playing games, 5g on..
temperature reach 39-41 degrees..
hows your phone ?
30 to 40 degrees isn't bad for playing games, but if you do have serious battery drain while just browsing, then a screenshot of battery usage is probably useful. I use Simple Battery Graph to check the drain and it looks fine for me