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Hi, I have been in a constant debate with myself whether to get the Fuze(AT&T version of Raphael) or get an Xperia X1 when it comes out. However I have recently decided to go with the Fuze.
I was wondering is there anyway to take the 9 panel application on the X1 called Xperia and put it on the Fuze. I'm talking about keeping the original rom of the Fuze but adding this Xperia as an extra application? By saying "adding it as an application" I mean, I'm ok with flashing the rom, but I just want to be able to use the Fuze like how it is and access the Xperia at will. If you could have both without having to pick one or the other.
Surely this is possible since the fuze has a little bit better hardware and the Xperia software is made by HTC. Please let me know if this is at all possible, because I believe that would make the best phone, combining these two.
*Edit: Well, I have recently learned that the X1 had a ram update increasing it to 384mb, so I guess I'm going with it now. Still curious though if it would be possible to put xperia on the fuse?
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Yes you can download the apllication 9 panel from the sony experia x1 to htc touch pro. I did it today. The application is downloable on wmpoweruser.com.
The name of the application is Dynamo 3.
While wmpoweruser is a great site =p you don't have to go that far...
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420220
thanks to both of you for responding, but I looked up both dynamo's you posted, 2 and 3. They are both not actually what I was looking for. I was more or less talking about extracting the actual xperia from the x1 and seeing if it could be applied to the Fuze. Reason for this is so the Fuze could run the xperia applications and so through the xperia panel window you could download more.
Like i posted earlier I decided to go with the xperia anyways, but it would still be cool for other people.
There's a reason they're giving the Xperia 384 MB of RAM, that panel setup is more of a memory hog than TF3D! Keep that in mind if you want to put it on the touch pro, it will run like hell and lag every time it rotates (even the Xperia lags when it rotates landscape to potrait in panel mode!)
Black93300ZX said:
There's a reason they're giving the Xperia 384 MB of RAM, that panel setup is more of a memory hog than TF3D! Keep that in mind if you want to put it on the touch pro, it will run like hell and lag every time it rotates (even the Xperia lags when it rotates landscape to potrait in panel mode!)
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Yeah I agree with you, but you mentioned that the xperia lags everytime it rotates...are you sure? Every video on the internet (including the one the designer has on the webcast under a month ago) is running off the original build of the xperia. The original build of it had 128mb. The designer even admitted that the one he is running (that lagged a good bit) is the one from march. In march it was definitely still 128mb. Seeing that it's had a 256mb update since then, I doubt it's gonna lag much. It has more ram than any phone I've heard of coming to the US, and 3 times the ram surely won't make it lag as near as much.
Even on youtube video which was uploaded on September 15th, which was when it still had 256mb and not the final rom barely lagged. You can notice a much bigger difference from all the other videos and this isn't even as fast as it is now.
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Yeah I agree with you, but you mentioned that the xperia lags everytime it rotates...are you sure? Every video on the internet (including the one the designer has on the webcast under a month ago) is running off the original build of the xperia. The original build of it had 128mb. The designer even admitted that the one he is running (that lagged a good bit) is the one from march. In march it was definitely still 128mb. Seeing that it's had a 256mb update since then, I doubt it's gonna lag much. It has more ram than any phone I've heard of coming to the US, and 3 times the ram surely won't make it lag as near as much.
Even on youtube video which was uploaded on September 15th, which was when it still had 256mb and not the final rom barely lagged. You can notice a much bigger difference from all the other videos and this isn't even as fast as it is now.
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How about this video of the Xperia being taken out of retail packaging, 4 days ago, and it lags when it rotates? Check it... Towards the end.
http://miniurl.org/2qL
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How about this video of the Xperia being taken out of retail packaging, 4 days ago, and it lags when it rotates? Check it... Towards the end.
http://miniurl.org/2qL
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Yes I know exactly the one you're talking about. That is the one with sweeden or Russian language in the bottom left corner with red lining? That was actually posted over a month ago, just not on youtube until recently. I saw it when it was first posted i think near the beginning of September. The final phone still hasn't been viewed by the public because it was shipped out of the wear house on September 30th and it takes about a week for any of the stores to get it. Only the people working on the xperia x1 have the final release of the phone. We should start seeing the recent version, with the 128mb increase from that video and with the final/stable rom, in about 4 more days.
-edit: I just saw your link, sorry about that but yeah that was the one i was talking about. It also just got posted on youtube today. And the language is actually in Czech, but yeah that was still posted when it had 256mb.
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Nice call that "they were shipped out on November 30th" and we're barely into October.
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Yeah well...one mess up in my response that was supposed to say september, and I'm gonna guess unless you have no knowledge of the entire xperia status, than you would assume that i meant September.
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Yeah well...one mess up in my response that was supposed to say september, and I'm gonna guess unless you have no knowledge of the entire xperia status, than you would assume that i meant September.
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I actually had no idea when they were releasing, my bad... I honestly didn't mean to be nit picking at words, I was just confused. I don't plan on buying the phone, so the release date to me isn't very important. If you find out if/when AT&T is getting a phone with Android, lemme know, but the Xperia can be tomorrow or January and it won't affect me.
I'm wondering whether Android OS still slow down after a few months and starts to lag to stutter? How's your thought?
Not really unless you've made lots of modifications such as using the xposed framework.
But it also depends on what phone you have, I'd say shouldn't be an issue if you a decent phone. Even the Moto E 2015 performs quite well..
I personally haven't had lag issues on my Z Ultra..
Yup, my phone is lagging like heck.. bought Lenovo A6000 few months ago from Flipkart mobiles store and since few days, all my apps are unable to function properly !! Anyways, the Lenovo people said to wait till the next update.
It really depends on the mobile people use, If you say Samsung is the top brand, it still lags (even if it's a top brand). The latest Android versions now a days seems to be turning into a crap, really ! Let's see how marshmallow android update does its work....
Depends on the phone and update as well as what apps you have, just to name a few things. There is nothing inherent in Android itself that causes lag.
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I'm wondering whether Android OS still slow down after a few months and starts to lag to stutter? How's your thought?
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Definitively ... yes and no matter what ... sooner or later any device will lag or drain battery as hell.
khan1996 said:
Yup, my phone is lagging like heck.. bought Lenovo A6000 few months ago from Flipkart mobiles store and since few days, all my apps are unable to function properly !! Anyways, the Lenovo people said to wait till the next update.
It really depends on the mobile people use, If you say Samsung is the top brand, it still lags (even if it's a top brand). The latest Android versions now a days seems to be turning into a crap, really ! Let's see how marshmallow android update does its work....
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I have to say, my Samsung is surprisingly a crap!! It always lag perhaps because its small rom. Need to grab a new phone, how you guys think about Huawei phones?
I'm using OPO for 2 years and counting . It's good phone to me but it seems old so i'm looking for new phone.
Le max 2 price in my contry is: 250$ for 4GB/32GB version. It sounds pretty cheap, isnt it? 250$ for brandnew phone, Snap 820, 4GB is quite interesting
My main usage is:
+ phone
+ social apps
+ phone call recorder app, voice memo
+ some small apps
+ and small game like slither.io,..
My OPO is very lightweight with Exodus rom, i wonder which rom to use with Le Max 2 to have same experience.
How about Lemax 2 battery, back camera and design. Please share your experience and suggestions!
up...........
no
its only $220 today in china.
http://m.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max2_receives_price_cut_in_china-blog-20171.php
but without the sources its a dead phone on the next few months. hope they will release the sources.
^^ Still NO..
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^^ Still NO..
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220$ for snap 820, 2k screen,.. but bad support
Le Eco or LeTV (Whatever they want to call themselves today) can practically give this phone for free but still people, especially the developer community will not touch this phone.
Le is so protective of their custom EUI that they don't want enterprising modding community to make custom ROMs for it. If no one is interested in buying your products, then what is the use of trying to be Apple regarding their software?
BTW EUI is not perfect. It is pathetic unoptimized piece of turd and the less we talk about the random bugs the better.
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Le Eco or LeTV (Whatever they want to call themselves today) can practically give this phone for free but still people, especially the developer community will not touch this phone.
Le is so protective of their custom EUI that they don't want enterprising modding community to make custom ROMs for it. If no one is interested in buying your products, then what is the use of trying to be Apple regarding their software?
BTW EUI is not perfect. It is pathetic unoptimized piece of turd and the less we talk about the random bugs the better.
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so shouldnt buy it
If Sources are released then it'll be a beast,even then its a good device,No issues except fingerprint is little slow compared to others.Just bought a sealed packed in 14k in India & very happy
They will never release source, their whole company plan is to sell phones with no profit and instead earn money by the streaming function that is built in the rom.
This phone is really the cheapest high-end or close-to-high-end device, it outclasses the Zuk Z2 and Xiaomi Mi5 with its worldwide LTE support.
Wouldn't surprise me if they aren't making any profit, latest flagship phones always cost around $180.
It all depends on what you want. If you are simply looking for a phone at a good price, it is hard to beat this one. The biggest flaw of this phone is the fingerprint scanner. It isn't good. However, if your main goal is a phone that has continued software development, this probably isn't the phone for you. But if you're content with stock rims, this is a very good phone. It can do most everything you want.
diarylove80 said:
I'm using OPO for 2 years and counting . It's good phone to me but it seems old so i'm looking for new phone.
Le max 2 price in my contry is: 250$ for 4GB/32GB version. It sounds pretty cheap, isnt it? 250$ for brandnew phone, Snap 820, 4GB is quite interesting
My main usage is:
+ phone
+ social apps
+ phone call recorder app, voice memo
+ some small apps
+ and small game like slither.io,..
My OPO is very lightweight with Exodus rom, i wonder which rom to use with Le Max 2 to have same experience.
How about Lemax 2 battery, back camera and design. Please share your experience and suggestions!
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It all depends on what you want. If you are simply looking for a phone at a good price, it is hard to beat this one. The biggest flaw of this phone is the fingerprint scanner. It isn't good. However, if your main goal is a phone that has continued software development, this probably isn't the phone for you. But if you're content with stock rims, this is a very good phone. It can do most everything you want.
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I'm running stock China 17s no root, I've no problem with fpscanner it's blazing fast an misses 1/25, but no bugs whatsoever. I compare it to an IPhone, But for 1/3 of the price.
It's a brilliant phone. It takes some getting used to though. EUI is not the most amazing launcher but it runs smooth no lag. The specs are dope at an affordable price. So far I have a few things that I am not happy with in the stock ROM
1. The light sensor in direct sunlight, the colours get over saturated, the blacks become gray.. It's annoying. Hope they can fix that with an update.
2. Camera issues. Can not auto focus during video recording, and images are a bit over exposed in the sun. Average camera that's for sure.
3. Bloatware. A lot of Chinese apps that do not apply to users out of China, they are useless and take up unnecessary space and data.
And that's about all for now. If I could install custom recovery and could get a bug free MIUI 8, i would ditch EUI.
just got mine today, updated to latest 18s. I'm quite pleased but having notification problems when the phone has been in sleep for a while. I hope it's easily fixed, but disappointed the error is allowed to get through testing.
edit, correction 17s
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just got mine today, updated to latest 18s. I'm quite pleased but having notification problems when the phone has been in sleep for a while. I hope it's easily fixed, but disappointed the error is allowed to get through testing.
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Where did you get the 18s? The official Chinese site released the 17s on Sept. 2.
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Where did you get the 18s? The official Chinese site released the 17s on Sept. 2.
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sorry, i meant 17s
meangreenie said:
just got mine today, updated to latest 18s. I'm quite pleased but having notification problems when the phone has been in sleep for a while. I hope it's easily fixed, but disappointed the error is allowed to get through testing.
edit, correction 17s
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I believe that the software is OK, simply you are too new on the forums and you don't know how to handle it. Please check topics about "notification problems" and you'll find the way to keep them from not cleaning while the phone is in sleep mode. The notifications are working fine.
meangreenie said:
just got mine today, updated to latest 18s. I'm quite pleased but having notification problems when the phone has been in sleep for a while. I hope it's easily fixed, but disappointed the error is allowed to get through testing.
edit, correction 17s
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Hello, i got mine last friday and i have eui version -> 5.8015S and i don't see any ota update, could you tell me where do you get that update, if you need to install any recovery, what are the steps to update this? I just know that power button and + vol i get EUI recovery and there is a option to flash a update.zip file
Hi:
First of all sorry for my poor English. Soon I will receive a z3 Tablet. It´s probably that the tablet will come wit the 4.4.4 (kit kat) version.
The principal use of the tablet is watch films and series....Will you recommend update to lollipop/marshmallow?.
If kit kat is the best versión...Should I flash the tablet to a cleaner firmware version?
Thanks in advance
I suggest u a biggg NO.Trust me KK is far away better from all firmwares as regard on speed,lag and mainly battery life...
(bytheway..is the only OS that u can easilly get 10 hours of S.O.The weird with this,in addition to most tablets,is that streaming videos,consumes the same battery as just browsing.about 10%/hour ?)
Peace to all
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I suggest u a biggg NO.Trust me KK is far away better from all firmwares as regard on speed,lag and mainly battery life...
(bytheway..is the only OS that u can easilly get 10 hours of S.O.The weird with this,in addition to most tablets,is that streaming videos,consumes the same battery as just browsing.about 10%/hour )
Peace to all
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Thanks. I´ll wait and check the version once the tablet arrives
For me the latest Firmware runs quite well.
About 9 to 10 hours with Twitch, YouTube and Chrome.
I got my unit about two years (don't know) ago, never done anything special.
My first Android device that performs so well about many updates so such a long time..
Sent from my E6653 using XDA-Developers mobile app
9-10 hours is perfect.I would like to try MM,but many users report only 6 hours S.O.T.Mmmm weird...
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From time to time there was a problem with the android webview service, but a update from Google play solved it.
When Google optimized some strange things, it started draining the battery, but every time they fix it.
Very stable.
And of course, when you are running dozens of apps with push and autosync, your battery will die faster. But that's not firmware related.
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hmm thanks for the info!you know is very weird when u hear some say that they get 6 hours,others 10 hours..but now I can finally test MM one day!But I have to tell u KK runs veeery stable.Not a single lag even with lot of apps and never f.reset ?
Peace to all
It´s possible go back to KitKat once you upgrades to MM?
Regards
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It´s possible go back to KitKat once you upgrades to MM?
Regards
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yes dude.only with flashtool from a PC ?
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Does Marshmallow stamina mode in the last firmware version ?
I use MM with the update of the slimm rom for z3 and it works perfectly. i got 9 hour of SOT with 2 day without charge it approx.
MM rooted over here. got 12 hr sot during hurricane matthew streaming movies over wifi hotspot
How is LP ? Should I upgrade to MM? Don't want to unlock bootloader or root so I'm picking between stock sony firmwares only
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MM rooted over here. got 12 hr sot during hurricane matthew streaming movies over wifi hotspot
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Hi Leo
Does MM have support for Dualshock 3 in Xperia Connect? I read that the feature was removed in recent firmwares
wanged said:
Hi Leo
Does MM have support for Dualshock 3 in Xperia Connect? I read that the feature was removed in recent firmwares
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Dont really know. never used it since all emulators suck for PSP emulation.
I use MM, fw 23.5.A.0.570, and have about 12-14 days in standby. I don't agree with kos25k that KK is the best option, it's very old fw.
My tablet is rooted and debloated, and i use L-speed to tweak the system to my liking. It works very well. The only problem is with the camera, it can't focus and take pictures. Prob something I did when I installed the fw tough. Never really use the camera on it, so it's not a big deal for me though.
For best support you'll need an app to emulate the ds4 buttons and root. It should work with ds3 too but you will have to check.
Im going to root and try out 'sixaxis controller' tool that I've used with other devices.
Also i like MM wish we would get N.
although is old OS,it is considered by the most as the best OS overal..Also is considered from most developers as the most stable OS on android platform general..it runs on 35% of android devices,even if is old..and also in our case (Z3) very most say that runs best from anything else ?
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wulfiss said:
I use MM with the update of the slimm rom for z3 and it works perfectly. i got 9 hour of SOT with 2 day without charge it approx.
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Wait, are you using a Z3 made ROM on the Z3TC? Won't it have weird resolution and interface differences that aren't optimized for tablets?
leo72793 said:
MM rooted over here. got 12 hr sot during hurricane matthew streaming movies over wifi hotspot
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Oh hey, Jax, Florida? 12 hours is pretty impressive, what settings do you have? I have latest MM rooted with some social media apps enabled, but what else do you have?
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Wait, are you using a Z3 made ROM on the Z3TC? Won't it have weird resolution and interface differences that aren't optimized for tablets?
Oh hey, Jax, Florida? 12 hours is pretty impressive, what settings do you have? I have latest MM rooted with some social media apps enabled, but what else do you have?
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Wifi aalywys on NEVER
auto screen brightness
LTE disabled
BT off unless i need it.
No games or excessive apps.
Heavy use i put into power save mode.
Disable bloat.
yea you here too?
I am looking to buy a tablet and I found a 32gb version of the Tablet Z for $100. Is this tablet still worth buying?
I know it has better specs than some of the newer cheaper tablets but just want to see what people's experiences are. Thanks
I have one and use it all the time. For $100, I don't think you could go wrong. I use mine for studying, and watching YouTube mostly and will occasionally use chrome remote desktop to log in to my laptop at home. Have never had any issues with it that a reboot didn't clear up and I only reboot once ever few months. Hope this helps.
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I have one and use it all the time. For $100, I don't think you could go wrong. I use mine for studying, and watching YouTube mostly and will occasionally use chrome remote desktop to log in to my laptop at home. Have never had any issues with it that a reboot didn't clear up and I only reboot once ever few months. Hope this helps.
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cool. thanks. I went ahead and bought it.. Nice tablet but now just trying to figure out how to flash the TWRP recovery to fota and boot to it.
jhcomputerguy said:
cool. thanks. I went ahead and bought it.. Nice tablet but now just trying to figure out how to flash the TWRP recovery to fota and boot to it.
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Why not just stick with stock? I've tried many custom ROMs during my "flashaholic" days - but have always ended up back at stock because :
most of the custom ROMs have issues
some apps won't work if your tablet is rooted
Still enjoying my Tablet Z after 4 years of ownership :good:
I can't justify buying something newer.
Why root?
I have to agree with Greta, I see no reason to root. Everything just works as is with no problems. From the research I did about rooting this particular device, there just wasn't enough of a gain by doing so. Hope you enjoy it.
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I have to agree with Greta, I see no reason to root. Everything just works as is with no problems. From the research I did about rooting this particular device, there just wasn't enough of a gain by doing so. Hope you enjoy it.[/QUOTE
Really just want to put nougat on there are be able to overclock. This is a nice tablet but it does have some lag on some games and processes.
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Nougat is really nice on this tablet. I recommend the LineageOS rom from this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/general/rom-cyanogenmod-14-t3496758
I have no issues and with it and it's fast, I also get insane battery life with standby being especially is impressive.
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Nougat is really nice on this tablet. I recommend the LineageOS rom from this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/general/rom-cyanogenmod-14-t3496758
I have no issues and with it and it's fast, I also get insane battery life with standby being especially is impressive.
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Yep!
All firmwares, based on 7.1.x Nougar, are very smooth and responsive. So highly recommended.
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I have to agree with Greta, I see no reason to root. Everything just works as is with no problems. From the research I did about rooting this particular device, there just wasn't enough of a gain by doing so. Hope you enjoy it.[/QUOTE
Really just want to put nougat on there are be able to overclock. This is a nice tablet but it does have some lag on some games and processes.
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Nougat is really great on this tablet. I really appreciate the multi window feature. It's fully functional.
I agree with you, underclocking / overclocking feature would probably help in some case.
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Broke mine...?
schastang said:
jhcomputerguy said:
Nougat is really great on this tablet. I really appreciate the multi window feature. It's fully functional.
I agree with you, underclocking / overclocking feature would probably help in some case.
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Glad to hear it is working out well for you. I dropped mine anout a month ago and it is toast. I took it apart and tried selling stuff like the camera and ports online but nobody wanted them. I hate seeing things go to waste and was practically giving them away. Did you get a dock with yours? I have one of those, too. May try to ebay it along with the spare parts and the smart cover.
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I'm also thinking of buying an used SGP311 and running the latest LineageOS on it. Does anyone with SGP311 have problems playing Clash Royale?
I have a Samsung SM-T320 running Kitkat 4.4.2 with Clash Royale and no problems. If I try SlimKat 4.4.4, LineageOS 13/14, CM 11/12, etc they ALL crash/reboot with Clash Royale. Only stock works with Clash Royale on the SM-T320.
The SGP311 uses Adreno 320 GPU and the SM-320 uses the Adreno 330 GPU. I'm just worried that whatever problem in Slimrom, LineageOS, CM, etc that causes Clash Royale to crash/reboot tablet might be related to the Adreno GPU drivers/code.
If you're into streaming services there is a thing that you should know: The Xperia Tablet Z has Google Widevine L3 DRM, that means that Netflix will NOT play HD movies, even with the most expensive subscription. Netflix needs Widevine L1, which you dont get with this device, even with an up-to-date OS installed. I dont know how this is with Amazon Prime.
EDIT: The SoC of this tablet does not suppert 60fps video streaming. This means that YouTube videos with 60 fps have a lot of stuttering. 60fps Twitch streams dont play the video at all, you can only hear the audio.
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If you're into streaming services there is a thing that you should know: The Xperia Tablet Z has Google Widevine L3 DRM, that means that Netflix will NOT play HD movies, even with the most expensive subscription. Netflix needs Widevine L1, which you dont get with this device, even with an up-to-date OS installed. I dont know how this is with Amazon Prime.
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As far as i remember Google Widevine DRM was ported to custom firmwares based on android 7.1.2 and probably 8.1. You'd better check them.
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As far as i remember Google Widevine DRM was ported to custom firmwares based on android 7.1.2 and probably 8.1. You'd better check them.
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I have Resurrection Remix 6.0 with Android 8.1 installed. No chance.
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I have Resurrection Remix 6.0 with Android 8.1 installed. No chance.
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Yep, you're right. Widevine L1 support is not available, and i think it will never be.