For such a brand new mid-range phone with great specs and a very competitive pricing, I thought this thread eould be popping with Devs trying to get an early access and commencing the development process.....In start contrast, the entire section for the phone seems dead and barren....
Is it because of the flash sale process of selling the device?
Ori s it the unappealing locked bootloader? Android pie is notorious for being dev unfriendly.
Or that the phone is being sold just in one or two countries?
Maybe time to move on elsewhere?
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I am thinking the same. I have already booked mine so i guess i will stick with it. I will wait around month and then rethink. At least root is a must for me.
Isn't the bootloader unlocked from factory? It feels so weird because the redmi note 7 pro is also available via flash sales but the dev community is so active. I bought this phone seeing it's popularity thinking it would be popular among devs too.
Is there any scope for custom ROM development for this device. ??
Doesn't seem like it....Phone hasn't interested the Devs, or has attracted the wrong kind of crowd....oem forum full of ppl with pitiful, pathetic language skills (English / vernacular) cribbing about really simple issues like ram usage, background running of apps like camera (battery draining due to face unlock being on) and night light cutting in automatically (yellow screen tinge at night). Wait till more experienced guys start owning the device, or else give up on the phone and move on....
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Doesn't seem like it....Phone hasn't interested the Devs, or has attracted the wrong kind of crowd....oem forum full of ppl with pitiful, pathetic language skills (English / vernacular) cribbing about really simple issues like ram usage, background running of apps like camera (battery draining due to face unlock being on) and night light cutting in automatically (yellow screen tinge at night). Wait till more experienced guys start owning the device, or else give up on the phone and move on....
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I'm sorry to read that. I overall experience of mine with this device is awesome. Yes, there are problems with the UI which does not provide a single means/section fot customizations. This device has good hardware and I am sure there will be good custom ROMs will be available for this Phone.
Remember :- great specs means great develpoment. It may be late, it will begin, it has to begin. This devcie will rise and will make its competitors feel ashamed of them.:victory:
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Is there any scope for custom ROM development for this device. ??
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I don't think that Realme is targetting developers/communities, the unconventional bootloader unlocking method is a huge turn off for many developers.
Also, TBH the realme community forums are a mess.
A developer seeding program will help them immensely to gain a good & active community.
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Give it some time.
There is no development of custom roms for this phone so far, because the bootloader unlock mechanism is not live for the public yet. Yes, the company had given false claims off bootloader unlock out of the box. Also kernel sources will also take a few months to come.
A few developers have unlocked the bootloader by contacting realme in china and manually clearing their devices for approval.
Attempts to root the phone have failed so far because of some weird crypto-stuff which prevents the patched_magisk.img from booting. People are still trying to figure this out.
A developer is also trying to port TWRP from source as well, not booting as of now.
Once kernel sources are out, these processes will be accelerated. Join the telegram group from the LOS post to keep in touch.
Edit: Meanwhile, it seems that realme is clearing their stocks and soon moving on to realme X.
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There is no development of custom roms for this phone so far, because the bootloader unlock mechanism is not live for the public yet. Yes, the company had given false claims off bootloader unlock out of the box. Also kernel sources will also take a few months to come.
A few developers have unlocked the bootloader by contacting realme in china and manually clearing their devices for approval.
Attempts to root the phone have failed so far because of some weird crypto-stuff which prevents the patched_magisk.img from booting. People are still trying to figure this out.
A developer is also trying to port TWRP from source as well, not booting as of now.
Once kernel sources are out, these processes will be accelerated. Join the telegram group from the LOS post to keep in touch.
Edit: Meanwhile, it seems that realme is clearing their stocks and soon moving on to realme X.
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I think the lure of Realme X, (India specific version with a 730 SoC, 48 MP shooter, AMOLED screen and a triple sim+memory slot) is what is attracting the Devs more....
Cookie Ninja said:
I think the lure of Realme X, (India specific version with a 730 SoC, 48 MP shooter, AMOLED screen and a triple sim+memory slot) is what is attracting the Devs more....
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What if the same happens, which is happening with us right now.
Realme should release Kernal sources atleast
bobbysingt said:
There is no development of custom roms for this phone so far, because the bootloader unlock mechanism is not live for the public yet. Yes, the company had given false claims off bootloader unlock out of the box. Also kernel sources will also take a few months to come.
A few developers have unlocked the bootloader by contacting realme in china and manually clearing their devices for approval.
Attempts to root the phone have failed so far because of some weird crypto-stuff which prevents the patched_magisk.img from booting. People are still trying to figure this out.
A developer is also trying to port TWRP from source as well, not booting as of now.
Once kernel sources are out, these processes will be accelerated. Join the telegram group from the LOS post to keep in touch.
Edit: Meanwhile, it seems that realme is clearing their stocks and soon moving on to realme X.
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Hey thanks for the update for which many of us were waiting.
Hoping for quick kernel release now... Fed up without root
Samdroid18 said:
Hey thanks for the update for which many of us were waiting.
Hoping for quick kernel release now... Fed up without root
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Hey delete this myth...
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bobbysingt said:
There is no development of custom roms for this phone so far, because the bootloader unlock mechanism is not live for the public yet. Yes, the company had given false claims off bootloader unlock out of the box. Also kernel sources will also take a few months to come.
A few developers have unlocked the bootloader by contacting realme in china and manually clearing their devices for approval.
Attempts to root the phone have failed so far because of some weird crypto-stuff which prevents the patched_magisk.img from booting. People are still trying to figure this out.
A developer is also trying to port TWRP from source as well, not booting as of now.
Once kernel sources are out, these processes will be accelerated. Join the telegram group from the LOS post to keep in touch.
Edit: Meanwhile, it seems that realme is clearing their stocks and soon moving on to realme X.
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Hey delete this myth.....
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bobbysingt said:
There is no development of custom roms for this phone so far, because the bootloader unlock mechanism is not live for the public yet. Yes, the company had given false claims off bootloader unlock out of the box. Also kernel sources will also take a few months to come.
A few developers have unlocked the bootloader by contacting realme in china and manually clearing their devices for approval.
Attempts to root the phone have failed so far because of some weird crypto-stuff which prevents the patched_magisk.img from booting. People are still trying to figure this out.
A developer is also trying to port TWRP from source as well, not booting as of now.
Once kernel sources are out, these processes will be accelerated. Join the telegram group from the LOS post to keep in touch.
Edit: Meanwhile, it seems that realme is clearing their stocks and soon moving on to realme X.
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Delete this myth...
bobbysingt said:
There is no development of custom roms for this phone so far, because the bootloader unlock mechanism is not live for the public yet. Yes, the company had given false claims off bootloader unlock out of the box. Also kernel sources will also take a few months to come.
A few developers have unlocked the bootloader by contacting realme in china and manually clearing their devices for approval.
Attempts to root the phone have failed so far because of some weird crypto-stuff which prevents the patched_magisk.img from booting. People are still trying to figure this out.
A developer is also trying to port TWRP from source as well, not booting as of now.
Once kernel sources are out, these processes will be accelerated. Join the telegram group from the LOS post to keep in touch.
Edit: Meanwhile, it seems that realme is clearing their stocks and soon moving on to realme X.
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ermani said:
Hey delete this myth...
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Hey delete this myth.....
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Delete this myth...
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Armani, why should I delete it ?
Samdroid18 said:
Armani, why should I delete it ?
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Because u r lying here?
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Because u r lying here?
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Prove it Emporio
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Prove it Emporio
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...UrTa&ust=1560646471327921&cshid=1560560069428
Soon roms also available for realme 3 pro.u have a lack of knowledge...n dont myths here..??????????
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Because u r lying here?
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ermani said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...UrTa&ust=1560646471327921&cshid=1560560069428
Soon roms also available for realme 3 pro.u have a lack of knowledge...n dont myths here..?
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I'm thinking, why am I even wasting my time by giving you a reply, Still Armani either you are too naive to understand things or you're a hypocrite who's in denial mode.
I said we have been waiting for development for our phone, where's the point of lying in this ?
And read your reply above you yourself proving me right.
I don't want to waste my time anymore in these silly arguments with you, Bye :good:
Tatti Sheth
Only person responsible for this is Madhav Sheth, CEO of realme. Its all because they don't support developers. He can give 100s of device to technical guruji for giveaway but can't give some device to the developers??? Many people raised this issue but they jst don't care.
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I'm thinking, why am I even wasting my time by giving you a reply, Still Armani either you are too naive to understand things or you're a hypocrite who's in denial mode.
I said we have been waiting for development for our phone, where's the point of lying in this ?
And read your reply above you yourself proving me right.
I don't want to waste my time anymore in these silly arguments with you, Bye :good:
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I have no animosity with you. ??????
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Cookie Ninja said:
For such a brand new mid-range phone with great specs and a very competitive pricing, I thought this thread eould be popping with Devs trying to get an early access and commencing the development process.....In start contrast, the entire section for the phone seems dead and barren....
Is it because of the flash sale process of selling the device?
Ori s it the unappealing locked bootloader? Android pie is notorious for being dev unfriendly.
Or that the phone is being sold just in one or two countries?
Maybe time to move on elsewhere?
Replies, comments and criticism are welcome.
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When the roms are availabe for realme 3 pro?any information about this ?please reply?
ermani said:
I have no animosity with you.
@ermani@
Neither do I Ermani Afterall it's a development forum, we're not here to fight. But to help each other in making our devices better.
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Hey there,
I initially posted this over at android.stackexchange but predictably it got shut down, so here I am, at the source of the Matrix itself.
After a long time in the waiting, I finally have an excuse to upgrade from an iPhone (5s) to an Android. As a tech enthusiast and general superuser, the freedom to do what I want as far as customisability and general tinkering with the software, as well as basic usability like being able to play YouTube while using other apps, is almost entirely the reason I've gone off iPhones and am looking for an Android. I'm bored of playing in the garden and it's time to climb the wall.
However, I'm also on a very low income, which means I'm very limited by budget (less than £200, let's say, although the lower the better), and as someone who knows very little about the Android mobile market, I'm wondering how realistic it will be for me to satisfy both criteria in a single phone.
Are most phones in this price range just as software-moddable as flagships, or are they not? I'm especially looking for phones that satisfy the criteria here [search for "The Best Phones for Rooting & Modding" on android.gadgethacks] but that article tends to recommend phones way out of my budget, and my research so far has given me an overwhelming amount of options. For example, I've read that the first-generation Pixel is the greatest phone to own for modding freedom, but I've also read that I should avoid phones after Android 5.1 that aren't running an MTK CPU.
Thanks in advance to anyone who reads this through properly and can answer all of my questions, the more I research the more I end up paralysed by choice, and it would be a relief to finally get answers to the many questions that have come up in the process.
As a matter of fact, they are. It does not matter if a phone is a flagship or a budget device, if it has caught the eye of developers. If a budget phone is fairly popiular, devs start building roms and other mods for the phone. As a matter of fact I'm presently using a phone under 100$ but it has a lot of cusroms built for it. There are lots of other mods like custom kernel, custom recoveries (other than TWRP) and so on. Fell free to choose any phone that ur budget allows, just make sure to search for that phone here and see if it has its own forum and whether the devs are currently working on the phone. U can simply confirm it by checking if the forums are active and whether there are mods for the phone. Hope u buy urself a good device.
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Hey there,
I've also read that I should avoid phones after Android 5.1 that aren't running an MTK CPU.
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Where on earth did u hear that?? You should always go for Snapdragon after android 5.1. You should try xiaomi phones if possible but there is a major flaw in that. The bootloader is locked and if for some reason ur unable to unlock it, u wont be able to do anything. One more thing don't go after Samsung phones in that price range cause the devs are not interested in them as they are not very popular. Besides Exynos processor messes already messed up things for samsung devices. I would once again remind u to search the device, that u decide on buying, in the forums. Only go for it, if it has got roms and other mods.
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As a matter of fact, they are. It does not matter if a phone is a flagship or a budget device, if it has caught the eye of developers. If a budget phone is fairly popiular, devs start building roms and other mods for the phone. As a matter of fact I'm presently using a phone under 100$ but it has a lot of cusroms built for it. There are lots of other mods like custom kernel, custom recoveries (other than TWRP) and so on. Fell free to choose any phone that ur budget allows, just make sure to search for that phone here and see if it has its own forum and whether the devs are currently working on the phone. U can simply confirm it by checking if the forums are active and whether there are mods for the phone. Hope u buy urself a good device.
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Ah fair enough, that's interesting. Can I ask which phone you're using for under $100?
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Where on earth did u hear that?? You should always go for Snapdragon after android 5.1. You should try xiaomi phones if possible but there is a major flaw in that. The bootloader is locked and if for some reason ur unable to unlock it, u wont be ableccc to do anything. One more thing don't go after Samsung phones in that price range cause the devs are not interested in them as they are not very popular. Besides Exynos processor messes already messed up things for samsung devices. I would once again remind u to search the device, that u decide on buying, in the forums. Only go for it, if it has got roms and other mods.
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So the information about Android 5.1 being the superior way to mod is true? And yeah, if one thing was clear I wasn't going to go for Samsung, too much manufacturer obstacles and bloatware for my liking.
Boost Galaxy J3 Emerge under 100 dollars..... Unlockable bootloader with oem unlock in developer options.
With working twrp bulid
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Ah fair enough, that's interesting. Can I ask which phone you're using for under $100?
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So the information about Android 5.1 being the superior way to mod is true? And yeah, if one thing was clear I wasn't going to go for Samsung, too much manufacturer obstacles and bloatware for my liking.
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Well I'm using Xiaomi Redmi 5A and am facing the same problem I mentioned. I am stuck at bootloader unlocking. However the error I'm getting is a peculiar one and most people have successfully unlocked it. Its a good phone with tons of cusroms and custom kernels. It has more than 10 Pie roms. However as per ur budget i think u should try to go a bit higher than this cause the processor is quad core which is ok but not great.
As per the modding, lollipop does have lead in some places but at present it doesn't matter. Most mods(popular ones like substratum) at present are incomoatible with lollipop.
That being said, do mention the phone u r going to buy. Xiaomi phones are a good choice as most of them have lots of devs working on em. But the only issue is with bootloader unlock. If u willing to take that risk, then go for Xiaomi phones(pls do a small google search on unlocking bootloaders of xiaomi phones if possible)
Cheers!
It's really absurd to see people happy with the arrive of GSI roms that doesn't feature Moto mod support. I've tried some roms and the obvious result is that non of it let you use any mod so, ¿Is there any chance that developers build a ron or a module that let Moto mods work in GSI?
I agree, it's very annoying, there is even a super detailed guide on how to implement it on XDA somewhere. It has been accomplished already for all main mods, including JBL. (Maybe version 2)?
I tried bringing this guide to the attention of devs and got in **** for posting it in the development section so devs could see it lol
At least the battery mod will still charge the phone in recovery mode our little secret lol.
Well, at least we have Pie ROMs. And I don't know how compatible the Mods framework is with GSI. @MusicAlleyInc and you where already told that most devs wont do that since that can break too much stuff on the way and none are willing to go through the hassels just to satisfy a hand full of people actually using modules
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Well, at least we have Pie ROMs. And I don't know how compatible the Mods framework is with GSI. @MusicAlleyInc and you where already told that most devs wont do that since that can break too much stuff on the way and none are willing to go through the hassels just to satisfy a hand full of people actually using modules
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Many people use Turbopower, and JBL.
Those are referenced over and over.
Most times, Turbopower works but efficiency mode does not.
JBL often works without volume control.
These Roms are all using the same basic foundation.
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Well, at least we have Pie ROMs. And I don't know how compatible the Mods framework is with GSI. @MusicAlleyInc and you where already told that most devs wont do that since that can break too much stuff on the way and none are willing to go through the hassels just to satisfy a hand full of people actually using modules
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As I said: there is a tutorial which describes how to do this PROPERLY, without breaking anything, maybe a few things in the mods not working yet, but not breaking other things.
> https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72601804&postcount=2 <
It has been done, can be done, and obviously can be done if Motorola can do it in the first place.
And as noted, many people do use mods. That is why any intelligent person would have bought this phone. It's not to satisfy a handful of people, it's to have our phones work as they are meant to work.
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As I said: there is a tutorial which I posted in this very forum which describes how to do this PROPERLY, without breaking anything.
It has been done, can be done, and obviously can be done if Motorola can do it in the first place.
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Well, there is quite a big difference between being Motorola, getting paid for it and having access to all necessary source code and being a dev doing that in your free time a having only limited access to necessary source codes
Artim_96 said:
Well, there is quite a big difference between being Motorola, getting paid for it and having access to all necessary source code and being a dev doing that in your free time a having only limited access to necessary source codes
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There is also a difference between competence and incompetence. The main mods used >already< work without issues except for the JBL mod, which is only an issue because of some proprietary code or driver or something.
But who the hell cares, that is what Bluetooth speakers are for.
All most people really care about is the battery mod and projector. Exclusive features like that without any simple/efficient alternatives.
These mods have worked stable in many custom ROMS when a little extra effort was made to make something competent. The only reason they are not working in Pie ROMS is because GSI's are universal and don't have them implemented in their base as they have been in past custom ROMS which were made FOR THIS PHONE...
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There is also a difference between competence and incompetence.
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While you call every ROM developer incompetent, when you know oh so much about that and how it had to be done, why haven't you just made your own ROM supporting every Moto mod?
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The only reason they are not working in Pie ROMS is because GSI's are universal and don't have them implemented as they have been in past custom ROMS...
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...And what was this thread about?
Artim_96 said:
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While you call every ROM developer incompetent, when you know oh so much about that and how it had to be done, why haven't you just made your own ROM supporting every Moto mod?
...And what was this thread about?
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What's your problem? I didn't call every ROM developer incompetent, I was actually highlighting the competence of ones who achieved mod compatibility.
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What's your problem? I didn't call every ROM developer incompetent, I was actually highlighting the competence of ones who achieved mod compatibility.
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You complain most ROMs do not (fully) support mods, that means in your words those ROM developers are all incompetent
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What's your problem? I didn't call every ROM developer incompetent, I was actually highlighting the competence of ones who achieved mod compatibility.
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Neither did I claim to know so much, I simply shared what I found.. an observation, do you gather?
It's not cool twisting peoples words to try to make them look bad.
Why would I build a ROM that supports most mods: when it has been done, that makes no sense...
Neither does the attitude I have received while trying to relay this information to devs for the benefit of the entire Moto Z2 play community.
I am not a DEV, perhaps that is another reason why I don't build my own ROM.
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You complain most ROMs do not (fully) support mods, that means in your words those ROM developers are all incompetent
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By the very definition of competence, building something that doesn't fully work is technically incompetence IN REGARDS TO THIS SUBJECT MATTER.
Especially when it has been already achieved to some degree. I am not complaining, nor did i say "fully" either. I am highlighting this fact and this fact only, do you have an issue with facts, or just a problem with pretense?
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I am not a DEV, perhaps that is another reason why I don't build my own.
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Then, just maybe, you should leave those topics to people who actually are instead of whining in several threads about devs deciding not to support it. You simply have no right to complain.
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Then, just maybe, you should leave those topics to people who actually are instead of whining in several threads about devs deciding not to support it. You simply have no right to complain.
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Maybe you need to understand the concept of progress and a constructive attitude.
Calling it whining is literally just making things personal, and totally unnecessary.
You insist on trying to dictate my intention as negative, your problem, not mine.
The thing is that GSI roms are generic, I know. But I have not seen any developments in Android P working around the mod support, ¿There's no possible way to build a module that let the users use turbo power mod in GSI? We have a great phone with a great power mod and we can't use it. For me is absurd to use GSI if I cannot get the most out of it
"Then, just maybe, you should leave those topics to people who actually ARE implementing this the same way the guy in the link I posted did....?"
But yet everyone is so fast to tell me nobody is and that nobody IS or has much interested in replicating his work, hmmm.
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Maybe you need to understand the concept of progress and a constructive attitude.
Calling it whining is literally just making things personal, and totally unnecessary.
You insist on trying to dictate my intention as negative, your problem, not mine.
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Then just read the thread you opened on that topic. That's basically the definition of whining. And you are surprised that it wasn't taken very well when you don't stick to the forum rules about what belongs in which section and write it with such an attitude basically telling anyone that reads it that you think most ROM devs are just lazy and don't care about their users interests
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The thing is that GSI roms are generic, I know. But I have not seen any developments in Android P working around the mod support, ¿There's no possible way to build a module that let the users use turbo power mod in GSI? We have a great phone with a great power mod and we can't use it. For me is absurd to use GSI if I cannot get the most out of it
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Be happy that at least you can get something out of it for now using recovery mode.
I say just be patient, Stock Pie shouldn't be that far off. And if you want CUSTOM PIE and mod support, well chances look good that it can be done when dev's have access to stock pie firmware?
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Artim_96 said:
Then just read the thread you opened on that topic. That's basically the definition of whining. And you are surprised that it wasn't taken very well when you don't stick to the forum rules about what belongs in which section and write it with such an attitude basically telling anyone that reads it that you think most ROM devs are just lazy and don't care about their users interests
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Dude, please cease and desist and stop twisting things out of context. You are pretentiously whining about me sharing important information and expecting ROMS made for this phone to make use of something that allows mods to work for this phone. Give it a rest.
And that post was totally soiled by someone with an attitude similar to your own, the reason I broke forum rules was for citing blatent ignorance as ignorance. Yeah, ask me how bad I feel about that.
MusicAlleyInc said:
Artim_96 said:
What's your problem? I didn't call every ROM developer incompetent, I was actually highlighting the competence of ones who achieved mod compatibility.
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That very developer removed mods support to improve the stability and performance of the Rom. And don't try to teach the developers how to create a ROM , we have only one left.
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MusicAlleyInc said:
That very developer removed mods support to improve the stability and performance of the Rom. And don't try to teach the developers how to create a ROM , we have only one left.
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So the same guy who claims he got these mods working stable and was promoting other people used what he learned, removes his work from his ROM because it makes it perform worse?
How does it impact performance? I have run at least 3 or 4 ROM with projector and turbo pack support that were absolutely fine and stable.
Also: it's fairly obvious this dude was the one trying to teach developers how to integrate mod support into their ROM, not me.
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A post of his from that thread:
"Rom discontinued
hey guys thanks for using this rom
sorry if i couldn't bring up ALL mods without bug (key word being ALL)
but i can't keep this rom updated anymore
so unfortunately i have to say Rom discontinued
this is mod apps update flashable zip to make new mods work https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620776495
all sources is online and ready for interested dev continue developing it"
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Sorry, but can you produce evidence of your claim?
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guys ! would you please stop bickering?
the OP of this thread wanted some insight about his problem and you use it to flame each-other ... this is not cool, huh?
I urge you to stop here, help the guy if possible and to keep it civil, I have trust in your cooperation, please don`t disappoint me...
thank you!
MOD EDIT: Prepayment type fundraisers are not allowed on this site
Just donated, would love to see this rom!
Funding update, Since a lot of people in group have shown interest in paypal info instead of going thru funding site Ill provide info and ammount collected in this post
as of right now we are sitting at 500/550 euros
(Actually even closer as ill add my money and try to find cheapest available device (Going for s10 as it has all of the features that might show up to be messier to implement than on s10e))
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As a little background i worked on exynos devices since 2014 starting with note 2, As of right now I'm maintaining s7 and s8 series of devices, I am also a member of LineageOS so once everything works as expected it shouldnt take too long for device to recieve official builds.
if you have any questions feel free to ask me either here in telegram or via PM
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Why? FYI the s10 can run lineage already. simply install the Univeral system image build
The S10 is fully compatible with treble 2, literally just install any GSI Rom, including Google's official Android Q Beta for GSI
Be aware the camera is total crap though, its like taking pictures from messenger / whatsapp.
This is a thing since the S9.
https://developer.android.com/preview/gsi-release-notes
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...i-lineageos-16-0-gsi-arm64-ab-how-to-t3908029
The phone is treble ready.
Unless you are starting from scratch I don't see this require.
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The phone is treble ready.
Unless you are starting from scratch I don't see this require.
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Even though it is Treble ready, I doubt it will be daily driver ready, some form of development is required.
Really looking forward to getting LOS, I am starting to get bored with my S10e
opssemnik said:
Why? FYI the s10 can run lineage already. simply install the Univeral system image build
The S10 is fully compatible with treble 2, literally just install any GSI Rom, including Google's official Android Q Beta for GSI
Be aware the camera is total crap though, its like taking pictures from messenger / whatsapp.
This is a thing since the S9.
https://developer.android.com/preview/gsi-release-notes
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...i-lineageos-16-0-gsi-arm64-ab-how-to-t3908029
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What magical GSI are you talking about? Have you even tried GSIs on S10? It doesn't work any good. Lots of major bugs. That won't magically fix itself. If Ivan can help if people donate device, and people want to donate, let this be.
opssemnik said:
Why? FYI the s10 can run lineage already. simply install the Univeral system image build
The S10 is fully compatible with treble 2, literally just install any GSI Rom, including Google's official Android Q Beta for GSI
Be aware the camera is total crap though, its like taking pictures from messenger / whatsapp.
This is a thing since the S9.
https://developer.android.com/preview/gsi-release-notes
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...i-lineageos-16-0-gsi-arm64-ab-how-to-t3908029
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The current state of gsis is not daily driver ready
Bugs: MTP, Proximity sensor, Signal bars, Bluetooth, NFC, HWC, deep sleep, Fingerprint, brightness range, auto brightness
Having a device specific rom is always better
Still no luck in booting Q gsi - any advices?
you can get some s10 on swappa for cheap unless you really want new
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you can get some s10 on swappa for cheap unless you really want new
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Swappa doesnt even work in EEA and those are used prices in most of eu, actually cheapest we've found
Hope something can be done with snapdragon as well
malinathani said:
The current state of gsis is not daily driver ready
Bugs: MTP, Proximity sensor, Signal bars, Bluetooth, NFC, HWC, deep sleep, Fingerprint, brightness range, auto brightness
Having a device specific rom is always better
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Those bugs were probably due to the specific rom you were using, as HWC in aosp gsi is literally mandatory for google to certify the device. Its on the list of treble requirements even
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...6d53f727d53d232dca503bbbc6d6f7854d8/README.md
Dont get me wrong, i still appreciate decice specific roms(mostly for kernel), just wanted to make people aware really
Good luck
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Those bugs were probably due to the specific rom you were using, as HWC in aosp gsi is literally mandatory for google to certify the device. Its on the list of treble requirements even
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...6d53f727d53d232dca503bbbc6d6f7854d8/README.md
Dont get me wrong, i still appreciate decice specific roms(mostly for kernel), just wanted to make people aware really
Good luck
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Can you show us that it actually works on our devices? I have heard the same as others and am curious.
kevkid said:
Can you show us that it actually works on our devices? I have heard the same as others and am curious.
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it doesn't work, it didn't work properly since pie on s9 either sure it will show up as working in logs (dumpsys SurfaceFlinger) but anyone who tried using it will notice graphical glitches in transition animations, due to samsungs messed up implementation of dealing with fences in hwc2 (they treat it same way as hwc1 fences) but i guess some people would rather be stubborn than do some research, furthermore he should know big oems get exempt from some tests sometimes, take for example a fact previously samsung had completely different fingerprint enrolling percentage calculation so fingerprint couldn't be enrolled by default you either had to use custom hal (like we did at lineage) or hack up system like phh did
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Those bugs were probably due to the specific rom you were using, as HWC in aosp gsi is literally mandatory for google to certify the device. Its on the list of treble requirements even
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...6d53f727d53d232dca503bbbc6d6f7854d8/README.md
Dont get me wrong, i still appreciate decice specific roms(mostly for kernel), just wanted to make people aware really
Good luck
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I've tried 3 gsis till now and i can confirm its not a rom specific bug.
And Samsung doesn't fully follow the rules set by google
I would really suggest you to try a gsi yourself if you're thinking it's something usable in its current state.
Was there ever a stable build for the S8? Last I remember a lot was still broken. (It's been awhile)
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FlatOutRU said:
Hope something can be done with snapdragon as well
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Yeah, i'd contribute if they had 97x0 support.
Fznwolf said:
Was there ever a stable build for the S8? Last I remember a lot was still broken. (It's been awhile)
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Yeah, i'd contribute if they had 97x0 support.
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Yeah s8 has stable lineage right now, Well next update will bring even more things to it, Previous maintainer didnt do much, Also i personaly dont have plans of working on qcom variants as stated previously as i enjoy working on exynos more and have a lot of experience with it so i would leave qcom to someone else as it should also be way easier
san_099 said:
Even though it is Treble ready, I doubt it will be daily driver ready, some form of development is required.
Really looking forward to getting LOS, I am starting to get bored with my S10e
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How could you be bored of oneui and the themeing and all the other things you have on stock... i think your just curious to have linage os running on your phone you mean because all youll find is poor battery and performance and a poor camera and over heating issues then youll be back to stock in no time....then ull get curious again when something else comes up and youll do it all over again then keep repeating lol...past experience for me haha thats y i dont even root now days...was talking about myself in that rant btw.
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Just checked the specs of this device and it suddenly averted my plans of purchasing an Asus ROG Phone 2 given the specs and features it offers - and considering that that device doesn't have any working Custom Roms (hey the reason we're here at xda). Now question is, is this device series famous enough to warrant the attention of the devs here? Considering that the Black Shark 2 doesn't have any working roms, even at this point, am I asking for a miracle? Would like to hear your thoughts fellas. Thanks
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Just checked the specs of this device and it suddenly averted my plans of purchasing an Asus ROG Phone 2 given the specs and features it offers - and considering that that device doesn't have any working Custom Roms (hey the reason we're here at xda). Now question is, is this device series famous enough to warrant the attention of the devs here? Considering that the Black Shark 2 doesn't have any working roms, even at this point, am I asking for a miracle? Would like to hear your thoughts fellas. Thanks
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Hoping for TWRP, decrypt, and Magisk. That's enough to get a 7.1" phone (real objective). Stylus is a bonus.
I really do hope we get root. I'm planning to get one soon simply cuz it seems like the best option for gaming or watching watching movies. Even if the ROG phone 3 comes out later, it won't be any significantly better except the bigger battery but the charging on this phone certainly makes up for that.
I have the same concerns as OP. Currently have a Pixel 4XL and was thinking of moving to the OnePlus 8 Pro. However, this phone seems promising but it would probably be a deal breaker if there isn't any development for it. I'd love to see root with an AOSP ROM.
Just goes to show how appreciative we should be of the developers making all these goodies for us noobs
rickysidhu_ said:
I have the same concerns as OP. Currently have a Pixel 4XL and was thinking of moving to the OnePlus 8 Pro. However, this phone seems promising but it would probably be a deal breaker if there isn't any development for it. I'd love to see root with an AOSP ROM.
Just goes to show how appreciative we should be of the developers making all these goodies for us noobs
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Aoso rom? Why? You'd loose the ability to use the benefits of the Pro.
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Aoso rom? Why? You'd loose the ability to use the benefits of the Pro.
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Assuming the ROM has the main stock ROM features ported! I know, much easier said than done but a man can dream haha
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Assuming the ROM has the main stock ROM features ported! I know, much easier said than done but a man can dream haha
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I agree. With the current issues going around OnePlus display issues, and that really high price tag coupled with the fact that I game alot and OnePlus tends to heat up rather quickly and gets hot to the touch real quick (currently running a 6T) I decidedly to pull the trigger on the Blackshark 3 pro instead. Really hoping for development here, as I think it's a fantastic device that's largely underrated.
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Hoping for TWRP, decrypt, and Magisk. That's enough to get a 7.1" phone (real objective). Stylus is a bonus.
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Yeah I'm good with TWRP and Magisk setup, as I think we need the stock ROM to utilize its physical trigger buttons. Anyway, its already 3 months and there's no development activity on this thread, hope all is not lost and maybe we'll have some goods waiting on the month of June or July :good:
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Yeah I'm good with TWRP and Magisk setup, as I think we need the stock ROM to utilize its physical trigger buttons. Anyway, its already 3 months and there's no development activity on this thread, hope all is not lost and maybe we'll have some goods waiting on the month of June or July :good:
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The issue is mainly blackshark not allowing a bootloader unlock rather than anything else. If we get a supportive community I think it's possible overtime. I'd really just be happy with magisk and a few mods. The phone is already really fast and has great battery life (if you pair it with the 65W charger)
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The issue is mainly blackshark not allowing a bootloader unlock rather than anything else. If we get a supportive community I think it's possible overtime. I'd really just be happy with magisk and a few mods. The phone is already really fast and has great battery life (if you pair it with the 65W charger)
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It is achievable i did unlocked the bootloader remotely by an engineer for couple of bucks + twrp convert to global and root access
bouyhy01 said:
It is achievable i did unlocked the bootloader remotely by an engineer for couple of bucks + twrp convert to global and root access
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Oh that's awesome, can you please share the process, I'd love to achieve this!
psycho.b94 said:
Oh that's awesome, can you please share the process, I'd love to achieve this![/QUOTE
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bouyhy01 said:
Contact this person he did it for me remotely but its paid
Telegram:
+86 153 9770 7985
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Too expensive. Guy is charging $80 for bootloader unlock, root and rom switch. All of which can be done for free if and when we can get the tools. Not worth it
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Too expensive. Guy is charging $80 for bootloader unlock, root and rom switch. All of which can be done for free if and when we can get the tools. Not worth it
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Yeah you are right and he is a scammer
bouyhy01 said:
Blackshark will never publish anything , the guy is an engineer at black shark and doing it secretely , so i think it worth it because we dont have any other solution
You can ask him to lower the price or only unlock and i will provide you twrp to root
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Well I'm in no rush. Everything is working perfectly so far on CN rom. I will consider and get back to you, thank you for your help!
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bouyhy01 said:
Blackshark will never publish anything , the guy is an engineer at black shark and doing it secretely , so i think it worth it because we dont have any other solution
You can ask him to lower the price or only unlock and i will provide you twrp to root
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In the meantime if it's no trouble can you please make a thread and tell us how well magisk is working and what modules are working etc. It might encourage other people to look to this option for rooting. We need more people on board if we want any kind of development.
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Well I'm in no rush. Everything is working perfectly so far on CN rom. I will consider and get back to you, thank you for your help!
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In the meantime if it's no trouble can you please make a thread and tell us how well magisk is working and what modules are working etc. It might encourage other people to look to this option for rooting. We need more people on board if we want any kind of development.
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Well magisk works perfectly , pokemon go ok snzpchzt also
So no safetynet issue i tried the wifi calling module and its working good i tried the flash a gsi rom and it brooks the device so dont try that unlock install twrp root and wait for compatible gsi or twrp wuth treble ready
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Well magisk works perfectly , pokemon go ok snzpchzt also
So no safetynet issue i tried the wifi calling module and its working good i tried the flash a gsi rom and it brooks the device so dont try that unlock install twrp root and wait for compatible gsi or twrp wuth treble ready
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He also have Global Rom. Lol this guys is the one ?
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He also have Global Rom. Lol this guys is the one
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Yeah he does but he is very greedy
Damn, and here I am, ready to purchase the K30 Pro Zoom instead. As the K20 Pro premium that came before it had lots of development going on.
How I wish black shark was the same. ?
iceman0826 said:
Damn, and here I am, ready to purchase the K30 Pro Zoom instead. As the K20 Pro premium that came before it had lots of development going on.
How I wish black shark was the same. ?
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K30 pro is a great phone. Well, I'm happy that root is AT LEAST possible, too bad paying is the only option we have rn for Black Shark. I still think the BS3 is a great phone despite low development but the choice is yours buddy
Today XDA's Aamir Siddiqui posted an Article on how Poco, even though they promised to do so, still haven't released the Kernel Source for our Poco X3 yet.
So far the Developers are doing an amazing Job in providing us Users with already very well working Custom ROM Options.
But, of course, complete sources, as promised, would be very welcome.
A couple of guys have already tweeted at Poco quoting the following Article.
Maybe we could boost that message a little, to speed up that process to get the Sources.
Of course I don't really mean that we should annoy the shi* out of them or be rude, but maybe a little reminder, from their users, might help.
Tweet: https://twitter.com/xdadevelopers/status/1327165355979059200
I for one, fully agree. Sadly, though, I'm not on Twitter. :good:
Another appropriate venue for this gentle pressure would be the official forum at https://c.mi.com/forum-2861-1.html.
Can you document other Twitter posts here? They would come handy as templates and indicators...
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Gizchina now posted an article about it as well.
https://www.gizchina.com/2020/11/13...ot-available-despite-launch-days-promise/amp/
Do you guys really believed that a company that makes you wait one week to unlock the bootloader will give you the kernel source right away?
I don't go by what I believe, I go by what they said.
That being said. No, I don't believe that.
Sill, it doesn't hurt to ask and remind them again. Worst case, nothing happens, best case, it helped a little.
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Do you guys really believed that a company that makes you wait one week to unlock the bootloader will give you the kernel source right away?
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They did so before, dunno what's keeping them from doing it now.
Maybe because of Dynamic Partitions?
Dynamic Partitions
Ezzady said:
Maybe because of Dynamic Partitions?
Dynamic Partitions
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Why is dynamic partitions stopping them from sharing source?
Google shared the kernel source for pixel 4a and 5 already
Kernel released, guys.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/surya-q-oss
Looks like we have annoyed them enough and they finally released it, thank god
Maybe. ?
Not sure if there is a correlation, but I'm sure it definitely didn't hurt. I'm just glad we have them now.