https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48330310
So no security updates and loss of functionality.
The used market for these is going to collapse IMHO, who'd want to take the risk when the above news story is on the front page of the BBC News website.
*Trump destroyed
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Some would say that Huawei helped destroy. Bad bad news for every kind of stakeholder. Tke world doesn't need this kind of shajt...
Is it even possible to keep on updating present devices using aosp?
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Some would say that Huawei helped destroy. Bad bad news for every kind of stakeholder. Tke world doesn't need this kind of shajt...
Is it even possible to keep on updating present devices using aosp?
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How is it Huawei's fault that Donald Trump is trying to strong-arm China in trade talks? Huawei are a victim in this (or, more accurately, the consumers are the victims here).
Unless Huawei genuinely are spying on the world, which I doubt, then it certainly isn't their fault...
Ask those "some" I don't have a clue.
I probably have to buy a new phone so it's really bad news.
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1. The P30 Pro will not "lose" functionality. It will continue to have Play Store and app support. Huawei phones moving forward will lose this... so actually the P30 Pro value is high since it will be the "last and latest" phone to continue to see this support.
2. All Huawei phones will still continue to be supported through AOSP and AOSP security updates... as long as Huawei can effectively push these out quickly, security vulnerabilities will be patched. Once again, it is the "licensed" products like gmail, play store, etc. they lost not Android
3. The trade war is smoke and mirrors. Apple has agreed behind close doors not to use their influence to speak out against the current administration.... in exchange, the administration is using their seat of power to effectively cripple Apple's greatest competitor, Huawei.... this just so happens to happen not even a month after it was reported that Huawei sales went higher than Apple world-wide.... The administration also made some deal or threat to Google behind closed doors to make this happen... This is why you haven't heard anything from the Google camp yet, as thy get their ducks in a row to make some kind of real statement today. This was planned day 1 after Apple made their deal with Qualcomm to bury the hatchet so to speak. Reason: Apple almost had to turn to Huawei for 5G modem chips, once that was off the table, Game on to strong arm Huawei. Tim Apple and Trump are businessmen first... always remember that... It is the "Art of the Deal"
4. Huawei, if they choose to, will get the chance down the road here in a few months, to pay some fines, etc. or some other garbage to get everything back. It will be just enough money to "sting" Remember, US Companies are doing over $1B in sales to Huawei this year. Trump won't threaten this... its always about big business, Qualcomm won't be able to make everyone's 5G chips.... Huawei will need to be tapped at some point. This also helps the US stay at the same or equal level of other countries with 5G roll out.... most EU countries were looking at Huawei for their tower solutions... this will slow this down now and make countries "rethink" in the short term.
5. Huawei has been planning this since trump went into office or even before that... trust in the fact that they are not scarred or "scare tactics"
Your P30 Pro's are good android support and app store support phones. Resell won't be immediately effected and it is still the best camera phone on the market.
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4. Huawei, if they choose to, will get the chance down the road here in a few months, to pay some fines, etc. or some other garbage to get everything back. It will be just enough money to "sting" Remember, US Companies are doing over $1B in sales to Huawei this year. Trump won't threaten this... its always about big business, Qualcomm won't be able to make everyone's 5G chips.... Huawei will need to be tapped at some point. This also helps the US stay at the same or equal level of other countries with 5G roll out.... most EU countries were looking at Huawei for their tower solutions... this will slow this down now and make countries "rethink" in the short term.
5. Huawei has been planning this since trump went into office or even before that... trust in the fact that they are not scarred or "scare tactics"
Your P30 Pro's are good android support and app store support phones. Resell won't be immediately effected and it is still the best camera phone on the market.
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This guy gets it. Hold on to your P30 Pro. Enjoy it. Maybe it's the last Android phone from Huawei if things really go south, but to me, the phone hasn't really lost any value. I don't plan getting much from reselling it in a few years anyway.
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Unless Huawei genuinely are spying on the world, which I doubt, then it certainly isn't their fault...
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https://www.businessinsider.com/snowden-leaks-timeline-2016-9
Just like that nonsense on Supermicro boards containing spy-chips that ended up never being there, this is all BS.
Again, I'd much rather own and use a Huawei phone than a Google one. In general, Asian people are much more trustworthy than Americans. Don't forget who are trying to get Assange extradited. It's not China, Japan, India or Thailand, it never will be, since they're smarter. Literacy alone proves that. 16% of Americans are total idiots that can't even read, let alone judge news on its merit.
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How is it Huawei's fault that Donald Trump is trying to strong-arm China in trade talks? Huawei are a victim in this (or, more accurately, the consumers are the victims here).
Unless Huawei genuinely are spying on the world, which I doubt, then it certainly isn't their fault...
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They most definitely are, China are notorious for heavily spying on there on people so why wouldnt they want info on everyone else?
I'm glad I got rid of my Huawei Mate 20 Pro when I got Hulk screen.
And for your information it is down to Huawei, because if it was solely down to them being a Chinese firm then OnePlus would be getting the same treatment.
Do some research into the dangers of 5G and health and you'll realise why this is all happening with Huawei, because they're heavily invested in 5G tech.
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1. The P30 Pro will not "lose" functionality. It will continue to have Play Store and app support. Huawei phones moving forward will lose this... so actually the P30 Pro value is high since it will be the "last and latest" phone to continue to see this support.
2. All Huawei phones will still continue to be supported through AOSP and AOSP security updates... as long as Huawei can effectively push these out quickly, security vulnerabilities will be patched. Once again, it is the "licensed" products like gmail, play store, etc. they lost not Android
3. The trade war is smoke and mirrors. Apple has agreed behind close doors not to use their influence to speak out against the current administration.... in exchange, the administration is using their seat of power to effectively cripple Apple's greatest competitor, Huawei.... this just so happens to happen not even a month after it was reported that Huawei sales went higher than Apple world-wide.... The administration also made some deal or threat to Google behind closed doors to make this happen... This is why you haven't heard anything from the Google camp yet, as thy get their ducks in a row to make some kind of real statement today. This was planned day 1 after Apple made their deal with Qualcomm to bury the hatchet so to speak. Reason: Apple almost had to turn to Huawei for 5G modem chips, once that was off the table, Game on to strong arm Huawei. Tim Apple and Trump are businessmen first... always remember that... It is the "Art of the Deal"
4. Huawei, if they choose to, will get the chance down the road here in a few months, to pay some fines, etc. or some other garbage to get everything back. It will be just enough money to "sting" Remember, US Companies are doing over $1B in sales to Huawei this year. Trump won't threaten this... its always about big business, Qualcomm won't be able to make everyone's 5G chips.... Huawei will need to be tapped at some point. This also helps the US stay at the same or equal level of other countries with 5G roll out.... most EU countries were looking at Huawei for their tower solutions... this will slow this down now and make countries "rethink" in the short term.
5. Huawei has been planning this since trump went into office or even before that... trust in the fact that they are not scarred or "scare tactics"
Your P30 Pro's are good android support and app store support phones. Resell won't be immediately effected and it is still the best camera phone on the market.
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...And to prove even further the absolute underhandedness of the whole Huawei and USA dealings.... FCC just backed TMobile/Sprint Merger, no concessions so that the USA can become a "world leader" in 5G deployment.... fairly easy to do when you cripple 1 of the 3 companies making 5G tower equipment that most EU countries were looking towards to build their infrastructure on.... Boy, unlike the movie Idiocracy.... there's still a few smart people around that see through this garbage...
ebproject said:
They most definitely are, China are notorious for heavily spying on there on people so why wouldnt they want info on everyone else?
I'm glad I got rid of my Huawei Mate 20 Pro when I got Hulk screen.
And for your information it is down to Huawei, because if it was solely down to them being a Chinese firm then OnePlus would be getting the same treatment.
Do some research into the dangers of 5G and health and you'll realise why this is all happening with Huawei, because they're heavily invested in 5G tech.
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How's that tinfoil hat of yours? It's got bugger all to do with 5G and the health effects. This is all happening to Huawei because nobody gives a rat's ass about OnePlus realistically. The whole point of putting Huawei on the subs bench is so Donald Trump can strong arm China by holding the largest Chinese technology exporter to ransom until his trade deal demands are met.
Also, OnePlus aren't in the enterprise technology space, another reason they haven't gone after them. This isn't about spying, and this isn't about the health effects of 5G (5G is coming whether Huawei are involved or not), it's about the tangerine ignoramous throwing a tantrum because "I'm the leader of America and everyone needs to do as I say"...
P.s. suggesting that "Huawei must be spying because the Chinese spy on their own people" is ridiculous and also borderline racism... So please avoid that in the future, thanks.
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They most definitely are, China are notorious for heavily spying on there on people so why wouldnt they want info on everyone else?
I'm glad I got rid of my Huawei Mate 20 Pro when I got Hulk screen.
And for your information it is down to Huawei, because if it was solely down to them being a Chinese firm then OnePlus would be getting the same treatment.
Do some research into the dangers of 5G and health and you'll realise why this is all happening with Huawei, because they're heavily invested in 5G tech.
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OnePlus doesn't threaten Apple.... once they do, wait for the spying rumors to start. Plus, OnePlus uses some elaborate hoops legally to keep their affiliation on the face of it away from Oppo. Huawei at its size can't do that, so their Chinese connection is more apparent.... and um, the name.... If I knew nothing about phones and phone makers, which most people outside here don't, and then said which one of these 2 brands is Chinese affiliated, Huawei or OnePlus.... let me see... oh, yeah the Chinese sounding one. Once again, perception, "fear of the other" dominates the USA right now... and its spreading across the world. The problem is that fearing the other is not the problem.... stupidity is, spreading like wildfire....
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How's that tinfoil hat of yours? It's got bugger all to do with 5G and the health effects. This is all happening to Huawei because nobody gives a rat's ass about OnePlus realistically. The whole point of putting Huawei on the subs bench is so Donald Trump can strong arm China by holding the largest Chinese technology exporter to ransom until his trade deal demands are met.
Also, OnePlus aren't in the enterprise technology space, another reason they haven't gone after them. This isn't about spying, and this isn't about the health effects of 5G (5G is coming whether Huawei are involved or not), it's about the tangerine ignoramous throwing a tantrum because "I'm the leader of America and everyone needs to do as I say"...
P.s. suggesting that "Huawei must be spying because the Chinese spy on their own people" is ridiculous and also borderline racism... So please avoid that in the future, thanks.
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OnePlus doesn't threaten Apple.... once they do, wait for the spying rumors to start. Plus, OnePlus uses some elaborate hoops legally to keep their affiliation on the face of it away from Oppo. Huawei at its size can't do that, so their Chinese connection is more apparent.... and um, the name.... If I knew nothing about phones and phone makers, which most people outside here don't, and then said which one of these 2 brands is Chinese affiliated, Huawei or OnePlus.... let me see... oh, yeah the Chinese sounding one. Once again, perception, "fear of the other" dominates the USA right now... and its spreading across the world. The problem is that fearing the other is not the problem.... stupidity is, spreading like wildfire....
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It has nothing to do with that, like I said it's all tied to how invested Huawei is in 5G.
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Have a little watch of this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3tAxnNccY
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It has nothing to do with that, like I said it's all tied to how invested Huawei is in 5G.
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It is, but only partially. It's to do with the fact that if Donald Trump can stop the US from importing Huawei network technology it would hurt the Chinese economy greatly - thus making the Chinese want a resolution to the trade argument ASAP (which is what it is all REALLY about, as we've all said... A LOT).
EDIT: It has bugger all to do with the health impacts of 5G. You're talking about Donald Trump here... He doesn't even think global warming is a thing, you think he gives 2 Fs about health impacts of 5G?
This is a trade deal argument and nothing more. 5G is coming whether it's Huawei kit at the centre of the infrastructure or not.
EDIT2: With regards to the scaremongering video you posted - you just wait until you find out what's in your microwave, how your Blu Ray player works or the hard drive in your PC
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It is, but only partially. It's to do with the fact that if Donald Trump can stop the US from importing Huawei network technology it would hurt the Chinese economy greatly - thus making the Chinese want a resolution to the trade argument ASAP (which is what it is all REALLY about, as we've all said... A LOT).
EDIT: It has bugger all to do with the health impacts of 5G. You're talking about Donald Trump here... He doesn't even think global warming is a thing, you think he gives 2 Fs about health impacts of 5G?
This is a trade deal argument and nothing more. 5G is coming whether it's Huawei kit at the centre of the infrastructure or not.
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Okay, clearly you have no idea what 5G is capable of in terms of weapons systems and health risks.
Maybe not all due to health risks, but it can be used as a highly intelligent A.I. weapons system. If you think this is all about trade then you probably believe CNN and the Washington Post too!
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Okay, clearly you have no idea what 5G is capable of in terms of weapons systems and health risks.
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So how come Europe and the rest are using Huawei for there networks?
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Okay, clearly you have no idea what 5G is capable of in terms of weapons systems and health risks.
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Clearly, as I've pointed out, the two are not in any way related.
Regardless of whether 5G technology will melt my insides, that isn't why Google has blocked the play store on a mobile phone.
Also, weapons technologies exist all around us, making lives easier. Technology when used correctly is safe, in the hands of idiots not so much. You seen what you can do with a microwave when you're not using it to heat ramen noodles?
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...And to prove even further the absolute underhandedness of the whole Huawei and USA dealings.... FCC just backed TMobile/Sprint Merger, no concessions so that the USA can become a "world leader" in 5G deployment.... fairly easy to do when you cripple 1 of the 3 companies making 5G tower equipment that most EU countries were looking towards to build their infrastructure on.... Boy, unlike the movie Idiocracy.... there's still a few smart people around that see through this garbage...
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It has nothing to do with that, like I said it's all tied to how invested Huawei is in 5G.
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I said it previously that it absolutely has everything to do with 5G.... Look at the FCC announcement... crippling Huawei is Donald Startegory 101 to make US "a world wide leader" (as quoted directly from FCC Chairman). You mentioned OnePlus.... as stated by other, OnePlus doesn't even play in the same state of the playground that Huawei, Apple, Alphabet, Ericsson & Qualcomm play.
Huawei spies no more or less then google (recently found out they record all your purchasing history) & Apple (basically tell you when you setup the phone that will use some of your data for analytics) and truly so what if Huawei does.... You doing some top secret research for your government that will cause its demise if Huawei and China knows... really, really.... Huawei and China can know what porn I like and what stuff I buy... hopefully they'll make more of it cheaper. :highfive:
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So how come Europe and the rest are using Huawei for there networks?
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Because the government's in Europe are easily manipulated and bought off, unlike trump has has enough money already, he can't be bought off.
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Because the government's in Europe are easily manipulated and bought off, unlike trump has has enough money already, he can't be bought off.
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And here i rest my case with you. Dont tell me. Earth is flat innit?
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I'm seriously considering ordering this phone, the specs are great but what's driving me is better battery life. I've got a Moto G, which is very nice; however, my battery life has never been good. (My first Android phone was an Huawei and I like the brand very much--my little ole Huawei is still running strong and serves as a cordless VOIP phone in the house.) Has Huawei made any announcements about rolling out KitKat to this phone? TIA
mke1973 said:
I'm seriously considering ordering this phone, the specs are great but what's driving me is better battery life. I've got a Moto G, which is very nice; however, my battery life has never been good. (My first Android phone was an Huawei and I like the brand very much--my little ole Huawei is still running strong and serves as a cordless VOIP phone in the house.) Has Huawei made any announcements about rolling out KitKat to this phone? TIA
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Huawei Device USA will not give a date because the big boys in China will not allow them to. But I know the Chinese Version of the HAM2 is already on KitKat.
kk isn't a deal breaker for me.
Right now, the Mate2 is performing without issues, lockups etc. Once/if kk is released, I'm going to hold off until reports
come back. I am getting to cranky to deal with bugs.
Thanks for the info. The lack of KitKat isn't a deal breaker for me, I was just wondering. I really want decent battery performance, good specs and a decent price and the HAM2 seems to fit the bill. The build quality of my old Huawei was good and from what I'm reading in reviews, this phone seems well built. I'm just about to pull the trigger on Amazon once I decide on color. (I suspect it will be the black one.)
mke1973 said:
Thanks for the info. The lack of KitKat isn't a deal breaker for me, I was just wondering. I really want decent battery performance, good specs and a decent price and the HAM2 seems to fit the bill. The build quality of my old Huawei was good and from what I'm reading in reviews, this phone seems well built. I'm just about to pull the trigger on Amazon once I decide on color. (I suspect it will be the black one.)
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Unless you watch video over LTE 24/7, using it as a phone, web browser etc....I get 2-3 days EASY on one charge. That, and the price are what
sold me.
As elpc has said, there is a KitKat version but it's for the Chinese model at the moment.
When I read the phone reviews on Amazon, one of the reviewers said he was told by Huawei reps that KitKat for the US models would come in either July or August.
I don't know if we'll get it, or when, but I do hope we get L!
There are better chioces than huawei,never huawei products
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There are better chioces than huawei,never huawei products
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Since Huawei is the 3rd largest smartphone maker in the world, why not?
Some friends of mine said you bought a Huawei? Yuck, it's a Chinese phone, they have spyware that sends stuff to China.
I simply answer...what ISN'T made in China, and what company, government DOESN'T spy and send data to someone?
I bought it do to the value, the battery life and the screen. No bloatware, unlocked for $300. Bang for the buck, that's what
I look for.
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Some friends of mine said you bought a Huawei? Yuck, it's a Chinese phone, they have spyware that sends stuff to China.
I simply answer...what ISN'T made in China, and what company, government DOESN'T spy and send data to someone?
I bought it do to the value, the battery life and the screen. No bloatware, unlocked for $300. Bang for the buck, that's what
I look for.
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Exactly this. I'm pretty sure Apple and Google do the same thing. In fact, Apple just admitted to storing data in its Chinese servers. And some guy was arrested for illegal pornography in his Gmail account as well.
Hell, there's the US and German secretaries phone call spying thing too. Everyone spies on everyone nowadays. You can't avoid it.
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abczhou said:
There are better chioces than huawei,never huawei products
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Samsung $700? Battery sucks, went to downtown San Francisco 8am before even 12 from full battery to low battery warning, I returned it the next day it is been to me for a week so battery is well charge up.
HAM2 I tried watching Netflix yesterday just to test the battery over 4g, it sucks that I just got almost 10hrs may be 15mins short before battery is 10% left and it is just $299, did I made the wrong choice?
But if they don't update to KITKAT before September 11 I will consider returning this. Good thing I bought this on amazon, they pay back shipping you can't go wrong on what you buy.
I entered a chat support from Huawei and they told me KitKat was on the way but they coulndt commit to a date...
Aand as for L they toldme they would make an statement when its out :/
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I entered a chat support from Huawei and they told me KitKat was on the way but they coulndt commit to a date...
Aand as for L they toldme they would make an statement when its out :/
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Really hope we get L afterwards. If not, hopefully we'll have custom ROMs by then.
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This is probably the best phone I have ever owned. I too had some friends ask about it judging it before knowing what it was all about, after showing them, I teased them for their overpriced phones with inferior battery life.
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This is probably the best phone I have ever owned. I too had some friends ask about it judging it before knowing what it was all about, after showing them, I teased them for their overpriced phones with inferior battery life.
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Agreed, awesome phone, now with the US release I expect them to sell a lot of their phones in North America. I certainly love mine !!
ScoobSTi said:
Since Huawei is the 3rd largest smartphone maker in the world, why not?
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First , I am a Chinese, so I am supposed to encourage you to buy a phone made by Chinese company, BUT I don't.
Why? Because Huawei is really not a company to support , if you speak chinese, you can get a lot of negative messages from chinese forum about how they do business, bad business ethic, bribe everywhere,etc. You will know how we dislike Huawei.
China development bank provides a huge financial support to huawei , so that they can offer you a smartphone or network devices with very low price, the money actually is from all chinese people,
of course, it is your choice ,but as for me and my friends, we will never buy any products from Huawei in life.
abczhou said:
First , I am a Chinese, so I am supposed to encourage you to buy a phone made by Chinese company, BUT I don't.
Why? Because Huawei is really not a company to support , if you speak chinese, you can get a lot of negative messages from chinese forum about how they do business, bad business ethic, bribe everywhere,etc. You will know how we dislike Huawei.
China development bank provides a huge financial support to huawei , so that they can offer you a smartphone or network devices with very low price, the money actually is from all chinese people,
of course, it is your choice ,but as for me and my friends, we will never buy any products from Huawei in life.
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I'm Chinese too, I didn't know that; I'm sorry about that.
If I knew that I would've picked something else.
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It's funny, I never even gave this phone a thought when I saw the specs, but (now here is the really funny part) after reading reviews of it on the OnePlus One user forum, and the price, I bought one and was really surprised how well it works for having "substandard" specs. It's fast, screen is bright, snappy, no lag, works quite well and that 2-3 day battery is REALLY nice. I could give two hoots if it has the latest greatest OS. JB4.3 is good, not buggy and works. Smartphones are my lifeblood for work and 4 weeks in, this thing has yet to let me down.
I use about 1500-2000 minutes per month on the phone, lots of web use, email, text and photos, and it's great! People are getting hoodwinked by thinking they "have to have" a device with the 2k screens, latest OS to do anything, but all they are doing is wasting money and getting 1/2 a day battery life. Hey, it's your money, but me, personally, I'd rather have some value for my money.
abczhou said:
First , I am a Chinese, so I am supposed to encourage you to buy a phone made by Chinese company, BUT I don't.
Why? Because Huawei is really not a company to support , if you speak chinese, you can get a lot of negative messages from chinese forum about how they do business, bad business ethic, bribe everywhere,etc. You will know how we dislike Huawei.
China development bank provides a huge financial support to huawei , so that they can offer you a smartphone or network devices with very low price, the money actually is from all chinese people,
of course, it is your choice ,but as for me and my friends, we will never buy any products from Huawei in life.
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Which brand is popular there in China?
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Jooosty said:
Which brand is popular there in China?
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there are a few. Xiaomi, coolpad, Lenovo, but to obey an unofficial command from government, all mobilephone based on android remove Google framework and apps in China
Hi guys,
What do you think about this phone?
I already own a OPX, but I need another new phone for my wife. Instead of buying again the same phone, I'm thinking to vary a bit and try also something else.
From the specs point of view, the P8 seems to be slightly better; the nice thing it's that I found it at the same price I bought the OPX, considering also its shipping cost (P8 is free shipping on that store).
What I'm not sure about, it's the custom development scene. The phone has been out for months, but AFAIK there's no CM available, while root is.
Also, I don't think I'm going to appreciate the heavy lifting done by Huawei to the system UI.
What do you think?
Thanks for any insight/thoughts.
I also liked the P8 and used to own the P6, development is very poor and updates are also horribly slow with Huawei
would avoid
You can forget about third party development unless they start releasing sources. Huawei have to be one of the worst along with Samsung as both use their own SoCs.
Agreed. The long standing problem of Huawei is their lack of support for their released products and late release(if they ever release!) their sources. This is a major advantage in owning phones of oneplus type brands.
Thanks everyone for the valuable comments.
don't buy huawei phone if you are a geek
points to highlight:
- Huawei Phones don't get S/W updates from Android Version to the next, you are stuck with what you get with the phone
- Huawei Phones usually don't get S/W updates at all, unless major issues happen, security issues are not mandatory fixed
- Huawei Phones don't get sold to people who has money to donate to developers, hence developers are less interested in developing for it
- Huawei Phones has Huawei' CPU and GPU, this makes the developer less than enthusiastic to develop for H/W used only by one manufacturer who dont sell tens of millions of units of the same device, and depends heavily on the volume of KINDS of devices to compensate the lack of volume sales per model.
End to end, you are better going with OPX than Huawei Phones all together
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Hi guys,
What do you think about this phone?
What I'm not sure about, it's the custom development scene. The phone has been out for months, but AFAIK there's no CM available, while root is.
Also, I don't think I'm going to appreciate the heavy lifting done by Huawei to the system UI.
What do you think?
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@solomhamada
Thanks. At this point huawei is no more an option, I guess. [emoji6]
What do you guys think will happen to XTE as a result of this news? Multiple articles have the same info so I don't think it's fake. Could this mean we will lose a major competitor in the US market?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ling-to-chinese-phone-maker-zte-idUSKBN1HN1P1
It doesn't seem fake sadly. Androidpolice said the same : https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/04/16/new-us-ban-zte-means-might-not-axon-8/
I was just about to post a thread on this as well, but you were faster
Anyway, if this will really be for next 7 years, then there won't be an axon successor or at least not a good one, since mediatek is still lacking behind. Although they are getting better at every year on making processors. Its still sad news tho
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Oh no, that's not good. And here I was thinking of getting an Axon 9. Guess I'll continue to play the waiting game to she what ZTE says about this.
https://www.androidcentral.com/zte-banned-using-us-based-hardware-or-software-its-products
This means no more Axon successor as expected with Snapdragon. It also means a crippled Android with no license to Google services. It effectively means no Axon 9 and the end of ZTE's business in its current form.
For current devices they can't release any updates that include license to Google's apps and services. Won't see official Oreo now unless they remove all the Google licensing.
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Well that's ****ty. I can't say I feel sorry for a company that agrees to legal terms and doesn't abide by them.
Very disappointed with this.
If it does kill Oreo for A7 I will look at unlocking and rooting mine, make changes and un-root.
Someone at ZTE should "leak" the update and sources before **** fully hits the fan.....
This is a showstopper.
Perhaps we will find very cheap 2nd hand ZTEs in a near future...
Regards
ZTE does not only disappoint itself, but also their customers. Great job, guess I can avoid this company now.
As someone mentioned above, I sure as hell hope someone leaks the update because we have waited a long time for this and it was almost complete in the third round of testing. All of the effort put into developing the update would be wasted if they decide not to release it, not to mention all the customers it would disappoint.
I have owned Android devices since 2012 and the Axon 7 has been the biggest let down for me, unfortunately. I think from now onwards I will only consider Chinese manufacturers with a better reputation like Xiaomi. Maybe I will look at getting the Mi Note 3 since it has such an excellent camera. It would be nice if more manufacturers adopted 120Hz displays like the Razer Phone and iPad Pro.
Calm down...
ZTE is still allowed to sell their products in the USA. And We, europeans exists. USA are not the only market in the world. If ZTE can't use Qualcomm anymore, this is a big problem for Qualcomm and not such a big one for ZTE.
They still can use other processors from other manufacturers.
And I really trust we all gonna have Oreo.
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The current situation with ZTE company is very serious.
All ZTE phone users become collateral damage.
It leaves ZTE’s use of Android in a potential quandary.
The software is released under the open source license,
which means that ZTE can presumably continue to install it on its smartphones and tablets.
However, that doesn’t include Google’s specific apps for Gmail, the Google Play store, Google Maps, and other software.
Use of those is governed by the Mobile Application Distribution Agreement, or MAPA, a contract signed between Google and device OEMs.
Without that agreement – which, it would appear at first glance,
Google would no longer be able to extend to ZTE
under the terms of these sanctions – ZTE’s phones
could not be considered Android certified.
original link:
https://www.slashgear.com/us-hits-zte-with-huge-ban-that-has-ominous-android-implications-16527512/
P.S.
We do not want to stay forever blocked on Android 7
Would this affect lineage os 15.1?
I love my Axon 7, but this could mean I have to jump ship.
This is the result of an American aggressive imperialist policy, innocent victims. It will not be long.
Reuters is reporting at least one analyst that says this may be resolved in 3-5 months:
"But Jefferies also said it expected ZTE would be able to settle with U.S. authorities in three to five months."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...nies-from-selling-to-chinas-zte-idUSKBN1HN1P1
The bottom line is that ZTE has always been cautious to a fault about their US flagships after the Axon 7, probably because the US market takes so many resources and is so hard to compete in. The Axon 7 was an incredible value but failed to become a bona fide hit, and they seem skittish about their commitment to the US even in the best of times. So my guess? An effective 3-5 month ban is better but still may spook them enough to derail Oreo and the Axon 9. It's a shame...
Time to jump to the one plus company ?
Today,
globally and locally
all official ZTE downoad links are removed.
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Today,
globally and locally
all official ZTE downoad links are removed.
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You've got to be kidding me
EDIT: Looks like I saw on reddit that an Oreo beta tester(reference) said if he gets word on ZTE not releasing Oreo due to the recent issues, he'll leak the 3rd stage Oreo update to let the rest of us get a taste on what it could've been.
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all official ZTE downoad links are removed.
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And so it begins, looks like my next phone will be a one plus 6
ZTE want to take the worldwide of mobile, but by the lack of Qualcomm chipset, Gapps, this ambition may be end now.
They may no longer invest in developing anything suitable for global user, or at least Qualcomm compatible rom.
I feel so sad, Axon 7 is a great phone, and ZTE had had potential to produce more great product.
The U.S. has been screwing with ZTE for the past 8 years or so.
2012
60 Minutes episode on Huawei and ZTE (when I first heard of the drama)
U.S. gov't puts down sanctions on ZTE and Huawei. Shuttin' down the studio until they take a picture with a midget holdin' these balloons.
Huawei, ZTE ready to share source codes with India
2013
China’s ZTE Corp. Has A Plan To Defuse U.S. Espionage Concerns ZTE says they'll let U.S. carriers look over their source code before anything is shipped.
2016
U.S. to Provide Temporary Trade Sanction Relief to China’s ZTE Corp.(when we were able to buy our Axon 7's)
2017
This Chinese Company Is Helping U.S. Target North Korea Violators
2018
Shuttin' down the studio again
With all this upheaval, what do you think about grabbing one while they're going cheap, used and good condition?
Im aware of the circumstances and that Huawei banning bootloader unlocking makes the situation even worse. If we could find a way to unlock the bootloader by unofficial means, I'd be happy to pick one up if there's decent 3rd party developer support
Could this be an opportunity or just a waste of time and money for us?
I've just bought one for £520 and it's only a month old. I'm prepared to take the risk for such a good phone and hopefully this Trump crap will come to an end soon
I have one sealed here myself but debating if I should have opted for Mate 20 Pro instead for worthwhile savings
Things could possibly reverse back to normal, if the ban goes full on, it could come to a total of $11m lost of business for the states with the companies combine, plus other possible complications, even regardless of that, and full ban on huawei, existing devices are not effected going by what Google have said
I got one before the 'news'. No regrets, it's a great phone.
Yeah i'd say buy it or get the mate 20 pro it's a better deal.
It has a better screen also
Although i don't care for that myself
i have a p30 pro love the phone but i am thinking about getting rid of it becaues of the hole ban thing i buy my phone off line every year and just tread my old one in so just looking at it from a money aspect
It's still worth every cent of the original retail price, let alone the massive discounts you can find. Its the best phone of 2019, and I've tried them all...
I agree. I'm watching a few variants on ebay, mainly the VOG-L04 model. If prices continue to fall, I might end up with more than one.
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Ditto.
I just picked mine up about to days ago. And I paid premium price for it. I was looking for the best battery life, performance and camera. I'm not really a fan of Samsung. I have no complaints with this phone. Other then I have a defective figure print sensor.
Bought a new one about a week ago. Could not be much happier overall. I don't necessarily need Android Q. The phone is working fine as it is. However this might be the last Huawei I'll buy depending on what happens in the future. It's very unclear future for Huawei now. For current phones I don't care though. This phone has the hardware I need that no one else has.
No regrets for me too. I bought it after the news came out. P30 pro is already a futuristic device. Huawei can always use AOSP and we can use alternative for Google services
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I picked one up over the weekend, new. I'm not too bothered about the crap - it's a great phone, will get Q, will probably get security updates, and will definitely get Play store updates - that's good enough for me.
And it's a matter of time before either of the countries blink and things go back to normal
Well, I just picked one up brand new here in Canada. Coming from a Pixel 3xl. Don't regret it one bit. Nothing wrong with the pixel at all, but it fell short in a couple areas within the camera that the p30 pro delivers on. I don't really care about the situation happening, I believe it will get resolved.
I bought my P30 Pro before the ban for full price.
I love the fact that it has a best in class camera that's the most versatile in the industry, 2 day battery life, the fastest charging speeds and just its overall gorgeous design.
I have no regrets. I don't take politics seriously and think the news and media puts this in a scaremongering light as Google and various US-based companies wouldn't want to lose out on potential revenue and business.
Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
felipy2k said:
Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
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Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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cardozclive said:
Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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I thought that the smartphone division was sold to a chinese Company , maybe was Lenovo and Motorola .. my bad!
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On the sidelines of the G20 summit in Osaka, Trump said “U.S. companies can sell their equipment to Huawei,” without going into detail. “We’re talking about equipment where there’s no great national security problem with it,” Trump continued. It’s not clear what this means for now, but it’s likely Huawei will be able to acquire basic components like Qualcomm processors and Google’s Android OS.
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Hi all,
Let us start the UK related discussion here.
Did anyone receive an email from Upgrade Programme UK? I did and it saying that I can upgrade on the 7th of August so happy.
Going for the 5G Model
From what I have seen I'll go with the upgrade from my note 8 this time. Hopes the UK get 5g variant especially with the pro model
I'm In.
Roll on Wednesday.
I'm in if the pro is 5g. Otherwise I am going to wait. I did see the subway shot yesterday online and my god it looks huge!
Will the UK get any perks?! Don't need headphones but earphones will be useful.
What time does the steam start in the UK?
My wallet is sat here itching to be opened....
I am planning to return my s10plus bought 10 days ago and preorder the note 10 plus..
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What time does the steam start in the UK?
My wallet is sat here itching to be opened....
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9pm in the UK
I see people talking about 5g. Do any of you guys even know the health concerns involved with the use of 5g ?
Even if I had a phone with 5g I would never use 5g.
Well it's your bodies so good luck.
Zionator said:
I see people talking about 5g. Do any of you guys even know the health concerns involved with the use of 5g ?
Even if I had a phone with 5g I would never use 5g.
Well it's your bodies so good luck.
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Guess you won't be buying it then!
We live in an age where wifi, 4g and other broadcast systems have been cooking our loafs for years. All phone have bluetooth yet we plug earbuds in without worrying. We survived Chernobyl!
I've seen arguments for and against. How do you know whats real and what is some keyboard warrior starting a rumour?!
https://news.sky.com/story/is-5g-safe-for-your-health-11732308
A vague news report but kinda explains it simplistically - basically if you have a phone glued to your head all day every day (as I read it), there may be concerns...
Of course who is going to admit there are issues now its live???? If we all grow a third penis from our ears, that'll be the result! (plenty have 2 already!).
I’m potentially looking to transfer from iOS, will be tracking this phone, against my past experience with a Samsung.
I don’t see any Android device that doesn’t have a compromise somewhere. Some of those compromises are dealbreakers for me. But basically, I’m bored of iOS.
RAFbombhead said:
I’m potentially looking to transfer from iOS, will be tracking this phone, against my past experience with a Samsung.
I don’t see any Android device that doesn’t have a compromise somewhere. Some of those compromises are dealbreakers for me. But basically, I’m bored of iOS.
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ALL of the IOS compromises were deal breakers for me! I tried an 8+ 3 year ago and sold it after 2 weeks. Hideous os. I get why people like it for simplicity, integration and a wide range of accessories but the world has caught up now and offers android at least the same level of options with freedom and better functionality. Apple is very overpriced.
bonerp said:
ALL of the IOS compromises were deal breakers for me! I tried an 8+ 3 year ago and sold it after 2 weeks. Hideous os. I get why people like it for simplicity, integration and a wide range of accessories but the world has caught up now and offers android at least the same level of options with freedom and better functionality. Apple is very overpriced.
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I get it, I really do. But the Note 10 at the same spec as a XS Max is going to be similar in price. I might sound like a stuck record for iOS users but I will miss some simple integrations. Instant photo library sync, handoff with clipboard sync, I guess a lot of iCloud’s integrations.
So I have just pre-ordered the Note 10 from Samsung update program, received acceptance etc and email saying credit approved, but my account is now showing the order as cancelled??? Anyone else having any issues?
Ordered mine 10+ 5g 23rd delivery love the ai video and outlook integration
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...Do any of you guys even know the health concerns involved with the use of 5g ?
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Yes, we do. That's why we will be buying and using these devices.
Zionator said:
Even if I had a phone with 5g I would never use 5g.
Well it's your bodies so good luck.
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Be sure to stay at least 10 metres away from anyone holding a 5G phone for your own safety. If you want to carry a sign alerting people to your concerns, we'll be happy to give you a wide berth should we see you out in public.
I have just pre-ordered the Note 10+ 5G 512GB model went for Black
Just ordered the 512Gb 5G model through the upgrade program. Was surprised no 1 Tb Model was available. Hoping they will announce more then the cashback for the Note 10. They did that last time for the Note 9 and extra cash back instead of a preorder offer is getting annoying a little..
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So I have just pre-ordered the Note 10 from Samsung update program, received acceptance etc and email saying credit approved, but my account is now showing the order as cancelled??? Anyone else having any issues?
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Nope, mine looks fine
Cant believe I doesnt come with a preorder deal. Dint see the point really. I bet the US again get something great and were stuck with the rubbish end yet again