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Introduction
This is a general discussion thread about our efforts to bring Android to the Nintendo Switch. (This post will see updates, we just wanted to get the ball going)
Current state of the project
The base for this port is LineageOS 15.1. As of now most things you'd expect work. WiFi, Bluetooth, Audio, Dock, JoyCons via Bluetooth only for now. Full sleep does not work yet so battery runtime is not great, but this is something that's being worked on. As of yesterday Android can be booted with the hekate bootloader and entering TWRP works by simply holding VOL- while booting. There is still a bunch of stuff to do until this can see a full release. Especially the setup process is something that's being worked on making simpler.
How to keep in touch
Feel free to ask questions here (apart from ETAs obviously). Once we have a public build we'll open a DevDB project too.
We are currently posting updates on Twitter as we go along at https://twitter.com/switchroot_org
We'll have a Discord server too once the builds go public. A little more patience please.
Posted in the last couple of days by @switchroot_org
Welp, I sold my Switch, now I'll probably buy another Switch... Obviously getting the device stable is the priority at the moment, but I am still wondering if the overclocking feature will also be here for us as well? Since I can't imagine running 1ghz a57 on Android is that great
The remote playing is gonna be so interesting on this
Really, really looking forward to this. Amazing work, keep it up
Overclocking to 1.7GHz (which is actually normal clock really) will be supported. And we just fixed WiFi scanning so you can connect to WiFi normally instead of having to manually enter it.
Regarding remote play: GameStream should work out of the box, Steam Link has been successfully tested, so was Parsec. GeForce Now has an issue still that needs to be worked out so don't expect that in the first release I guess.
Netflix work in this port ?
Hey, sirocyl from switchroot here. One thing I need to make clear, in case you're wondering: Your Switch needs to have an "UNPATCHED" bootrom.
You can use this guide to identify Switches by serial number; if it's manufactured/purchased before approximately June/July 2018, it should be good - but the only way to make sure is by checking the serial!
https://gbatemp.net/threads/switch-...he-first-post-before-asking-questions.481215/
As an owner of a vulnerable Nintendo Switch i'm really excited with the progress been made here, keep up the great work
Twrp and android are inside the microsd or emmc?
Fun times ?
It was only a matter of time. XDA never ceases to amaze me!
Everything is on the microSD. Don't wanna risk Nintendo bans although _in theory_ you could put it on eMMC. We'll never officially support that tho for obvious reasons.
Very interesting, looking forward to seeing how this pans out. Now can I find a switch that can be modded is the question??
Will there be a need for root? Like can you run this on a note 9 without root?
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Will there be a need for root? Like can you run this on a note 9 without root?
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You have misunderstood - this is android on the switch, not switch on the android.
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You have misunderstood - this is android on the switch, not switch on the android.
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OOOOOOH
Thanks for clarifying!
Will we ever see a wired joycon solution, perhaps influenced by the Lakka port?
At the moment you can either have wired or bluetooth due to issues with the respecting drivers. If one is in, the other breaks (don't remember the exact order). It's not an immediate focus right now now. I'll think I poke around actual sleep support a little this weekend...
Will you give us an option to choose between wired or BT joycon support?
Or are you just staying with BT only, as this option can be used when docked and portable?
I'd personally prefer wired, as I only play in portable. But this is just me.
And one more question - Android will be installed to SD rather than eMMC, and I get it, this is much better overall.
But what about performance? SD card can be much slower than eMMC, should we expect any slowdowns or other issues?
I wanted to thank entire switchroot team and other people associated with this project for their hard work. Especially ByLaws. Guys, this is huge, this is something we need, we can't be grateful enogh. Cheers!
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I saw some moron demanding that ppl work on getting Android to work on Raphael..... what a dumbass..... and I clicked a few links deep from the Wiki mentioned and found this thread:
http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=237
It was very easy installation, and I am now running Android, have some fun testing for the developers now....
Recommend U all try it!
would you mind posting some screenshots? and if i want to flash it back to WinMo, will there be any problem?
kiay said:
would you mind posting some screenshots? and if i want to flash it back to WinMo, will there be any problem?
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You don't flash your device with it. You essential launch it from file explorer and phone boots into it. A soft reset brings you back to WM.
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You don't flash your device with it. You essential launch it from file explorer and phone boots into it. A soft reset brings you back to WM.
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thx for the quick reply, guess i'll giv it a shot...
You can also press and hold the end call button, and you can choose 'Power Off' but I still end up having to soft-reset, many things are not working, but i'm sure that will all get worked out at some point, wish i could do more for the project than just installing it lol
Mirror Needed.
Can you upload the files needed.
I tried downloading from the site that you posted but I am unable to do so.
Thanks,
This one worked for me, I hit a broken link also
http://connect-utb.com/index.php?op...6:android-for-htc-touch-pro-raph100&Itemid=68
Can mirror if it still doesn't work
Here is a more precise link to install instructions, and a download link:
http://connect-utb.com/index.php?op...id=68&id=16:android-for-htc-touch-pro-raph100
Seems there are multiple builds for Raph100 and Raph800, dont know the difference, here is the global link with download links:
The one at the top is the newest for Raph100, and the one I installed
http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=folder&Itemid=68&id=3:htc-raphael
Thank you.
Thanks for the download links. Downloading now...will give it a whirl
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002
All the info you need. It covers working on Diamond and Raphael, thats the main page for the project.
Oh and the stuff posted on utb.com is outdated.
And there is a page in the xda wiki just search for Raphael Linux.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002
All the info you need. It covers working on Diamond and Raphael, thats the main page for the project.
Oh and the stuff posted on utb.com is outdated.
And there is a page in the xda wiki just search for Raphael Linux.
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Thanks, this site is too huge
Can you point us all to a current build that's this easy to install?
very nice work. looking forward to future developments!
The RAPH100 is the GSM version, the RAPH800 is the CDMA version.
The link in my signature guides you to the thread where this is being developed. It's been a bit silent lately though.
I actually Gave this a Whirl and pretty Impressive... SMS was even Working. Camera doesn't Fuction and Ask for a Storage card to be inserted which is Weird cause ur reading the OS from the card lol.... Good find though...
I hope android will be fully ported on raphael soon
unfortunately for now it isn't for everyday use
+1 on screenshots...this is worth looking into.
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+1 on screenshots...this is worth looking into.
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This isn't ready for prime time yet. There is a lot of hardware support missing as I write this (e.g. no suspending or powering off, no Bluetooth, WiFi, or anything but plain GSM [GPRS, 3G, etc], no accelerometer, no sound [and no sound I/O in calls, so you can't hear or be heard], no cameras, et cetera).
The lion's share of the problems aren't with Android, they're with providing Linux device drivers for all of the machine's hardware. Android itself seems to work just fine with what devices the Linux kernel gives it!
But in the hopes that this may spark some more creative interest from kernel hackers (*) (as opposed to such comments as 'but why wasn't it ready twenty years ago?'), here are some rough (and fuzzy) screenshots from my Touch Pro:
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(*) I'd love to get involved myself, but my kernel hacking experience is in bigger, heavier devices with fewer radios. (but I'm looking around the kernel sources regardless).
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(*) I'd love to get involved myself, but my kernel hacking experience is in bigger, heavier devices with fewer radios. (but I'm looking around the kernel sources regardless).
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FYI some of the developers that are working on it can be found on IRC (freenode) at #htc-linux, including myself. In case you have some questions...
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FYI some of the developers that are working on it can be found on IRC (freenode) at #htc-linux, including myself. In case you have some questions...
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Thanks. I'm not much of an IRC user, though this is A Good Cause. I've checked out the kernel source and had a look through some interesting bits. Went through the memory maps etc on the wiki and realised just what brave souls you guys are (some of this stuff is truly obtuse — but I know the rewards when you finally manage to get some bizarre device working). Having a look at the basics of ARM Assembly now (never had much reason to use it before). I generally have very little free time, but I obsess easily, and I'd really like to have something other than Windows on my Raphael.
(plus, logging into my phone via ssh amuses me — haven't been this amused since the Zaurus)
Hi!
android now have the times tested (Raph100), is a beautiful thing. Will not single network connection. Neither wireless nor USB 3G yet.
Why is this and how can I set up?
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1 | Notes, notes- Anywhere!
Use Note Anywhere on the interface as you are surfing the web. Note aren't note without mobility.
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2 | Maximum Multitasking
Do more. Stack your cards anywhere.
3 | Perceptive Touch
The Touchpad knows when you've made a mistake. And it even knows what you are going to do before you do it.
4 | Webcam Support
The Browser recognizes your webcam, just like any laptop. No Skype or Facetime required. Now you can Chatroulette.
Basically anything you've ever wanted to do with WEBOS, put your ideas here. I have a ton of em'.
I'm puzzled about the purpose of this post. Is it a wishlist? Is there a WebOS 4 being planned?
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I'm puzzled about the purpose of this post. Is it a wishlist? Is there a WebOS 4 being planned?
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ya thats a good question
Re: New WebOS 4.0 implementation
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In fact, it's an excellent question! Having just bought a Touchpad, I've only just begun to play with WebOS, but already I love it, I'm really hoping they continue to develop the platform!
you guys have to know 3.0.2 is the end right....i mean...come on
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you guys have to know 3.0.2 is the end right....i mean...come on
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That's what I thought. Which makes this thread a bit pointless IMHO.....
Nope, actually- they are continuing with WebOS. The Touchpad is still in it's infancy, it came out weeks ago.
We're dedicated users.
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Nope, actually- they are continuing with WebOS. The Touchpad is still in it's infancy, it came out weeks ago.
We're dedicated users.
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Someone's a little late to the party. Touchpad is over, and so is Web OS Development.
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Nope, actually- they are continuing with WebOS. The Touchpad is still in it's infancy, it came out weeks ago.
We're dedicated users.
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And you have proof of this?
being a dedicated user has nothing to do with HP canning the whole webOS platform. I think we are in this on our own.
Guys, HP are not discontinuing WebOS software, only the hardware. for example:
http://www.mobiledia.com/news/109675.html . And just a little google of HP Touchpad, switch to google news and filter the last few days and you'll be able to read plenty if you want to update your facts. Of course we havent heared a comprehensive strategy being put in place, only that they are looking into licensing models for WebOS and are to continue to develop and optimise the os.
Of course this is just a wishlist, and I have a few myself, though most can be solved with better apps in the market so i'm not going to go into them.
I would like to see better use of of cards, enabling them as wigets as well as just a minimised view of the app would be a good start. With views showing updated information from facebook/news apps etc when in card view. But I'm torn between the bliss simplicity of card view and the functionallity but sometimes overwhelming mess we get from my wigetised home screens in android.
WebOS is not dead yet, after keeping my ear to the ground, HP plans to release 3.0.4 soon (no eta) which the most notable feature is HDMI from micro usb over MHL adapter...its apparently still in testing phase but it supposed to drop before the end of the year.
ill look for the source, but either way, its not completely dead, the app catalog is still updated weekly as well
but it is dying HP is recognizing the hardware and marketing for palm devices as a complete failure, and will resume focus on the PC market, all but abandoning the mobile niche market.
There's no reason to give up a great platform. I don't know why people are so depressed.
Leo Apetheker might have been as crazy but I've been a fan of the Touchpad since Day 1.
No matter what they do to it, I don't see it ending anytime soon.
in reality HP have said they will continue support so that it looks like a viable proposition to purchase.
I believe 3.04 has already been seen in the wild, 3.03 certainly has. I think that we will all be glad of the android port sooner than we would like.
please prove me wrong HP
I'm sure they've got some wild monkeys running their company, they talk of cancelling, discontinuing...and yet, they want to sell it?
They're trying to sell something that they've lowered the value of.
Thread closed as there is no real basis for this topic.
So, I've been working on getting the new version of CWM that has onscreen controls, a battery meter, and more to work on the TouchPad. So far, I've gotten it to boot, flash, and all that jazz, but the touchscreen still seems to be a WIP. Also, adb seems to be broken atm. Besides that, it seems to be working alright. I kind of want to gauge interest before I go out and fix the bugs/release a build.
Anyways, here are some pictures of the new CWM (and inadvertently me at 5 AM.. no judgements haha).
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Notice the on-screen buttons (that don't work, yet...)
Finally, here's the battery meter
If I decide to keep going with this (hell, someone else should, too! I'm sure they could do it better, too heh), I'll start merging in some changes like USB notification and more. So..... any opinions?
larger text to fill the space ? make use of the space
i am afraid that i will make a mess of the setting by touching the screen, anyway thanks~
There's definitely interest. On the Touchpad my recovery of choice is TWRP, but since that's been discontinued and in its current state a little buggy I still use CWM. This would have the best of both worlds.
I'm going to go in the opposite direction of the other suggestion thus far and say shrink the buttons a bit, if possible.
Agreed I am certainly interested, much nicer then having to use the volume buttons....
Well, to finish this, I would have to tear apart TWRP's source hoping they have touch input in their code (the GUI code isn't public). Also, I would probably have to spend a few days bug fixing and actually fixing code instead of just commenting out stuff our device doesn't have (/datadata). It seems like it'd be a bit much, but once again, if more than 4 people say they'd want it, I'd do it haha. I'm just a CS college kid in midterms week so time is decently valuable, I guess heh.
EDIT: I felt bad because I feel like I sounded like I devalued the 4 responders; I don't and hope I didn't come off that way!
I wouldnt mind have a taste of cwm touch.
Is this the version of cwm that TWRP team helped with? (after they dropped their recovery project and started helping cwm's development).
I read they were planning to start help cwm with touch but i didnt see the implementation yet.
What do you think about using 4EXT Recovery instead?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402820
I'm definitely down for this.
CwM certainly does what it was design to do. I've been using it since I got hold of MyTouch3g and Donut. It hasn't changed. That said, it's time for a transformation. I think I read on another forum that there will be some changes to CwM soon. I don't know if you are part of that crew. Anyway, please move forward with this project.
Well I have midterns until next Monday, so I'll be busy, but if you want, I can release an alpha after testing it to see if basic functionality isn't broken? That means it'll have backup/restore, partition wipe, USB mounting, battery status, and zip installation. Anything else needed for an alpha?
Also, our touch screen drivers appear to be userland-based. To the average person, that means they're not in the kernel so I'll have to look into implementing that driver into CWM's source. Once that works, we should be golden. Also, I really want to add features like screen shut off if not touched for a minute or so. That should help with battery usage in CWM, I believe.
Thanks for the support and if you have anything to add/an idea/feature request/help, I'd love to hear it all!
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What do you think about using 4EXT Recovery instead?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402820
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+1 4ext is teh shizza
I think the aesthetics and additional functionality can follow. Getting touch to work with whatever is currently in CwM is more important.
I liked TeamWin's recovery, but since it's currently not being developed... oh well...
I have a fairly stable A0.5 and i don't plan on making any changes other than a kernel update or two. I have some time to test and give feed back.
Just a quick note (I'm currently in class and can't talk too much), but 4ext is closed source. Also, does anyone know if TWRP has been abandoned? As in, they'd probably be alright with open sourcing their GUI? Maybe? Bueller?
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Just a quick note (I'm currently in class and can't talk too much), but 4ext is closed source. Also, does anyone know if TWRP has been abandoned? As in, they'd probably be alright with open sourcing their GUI? Maybe? Bueller?
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Didn't know 4ext was closed source, too bad. Twrp was abandoned but idk if its open source either... drop em a line
You could try talking to DooMLoRD or Napstar, they are working on touch based cwm for a few devices.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...abled-recovery-for-kindle-fire-and-htc-flyer/
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-touch-enabled-recovery-on-even-more-devices/
Is there an update on this? I see there is a release version on other devices.
- Sent from my TouchPad
you should make the navigation buttons bigger.
I'd love this. Please continue working on it
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This would be amazing to have on my TP!!
Back a few years in the early days of android. There once was an app called "launcher pro". For anyone that's been around for some time this app will sound very familiar.
I still remember when I first discovered it and the excitement that came whenever I noticed there was an update for it. With each update the launcher became more and more my favorite. So much so, it had become my standard to compare to. Whenever I tried out another launcher I immediately noticed the difference. Nothing else seemed to compare to the responsiveness and overall smoothness of LP. I would always return to LP because the others seemed to pale in comparison to its glory.
It became one of the first apps I installed anytime I got a new phone. To me it had became synonymous with android and its capabilities. I ended up using it as my daily driver for the next couple of years to come.
Unfortunately Ice Cream Sandwich killed compatibility with LP and so ended my long time relationship with one of the best apps I've ever used To this day I still ponder on the incredible potential exhibited through this app by the mind of an amazing developer.
Federico Carnales is/was a staple for the android community and an example what determination and effort can produce. He's been frighteningly absent from the android world for roughly a year and a half now with his applications on the play store even today. However there they lay unsupported and unfit to install in newer versions of android.
So what happened? Where did he go? I recall a letter written to him because many other like minded individuals began scouring the net in fear of his death. I personally gave up searching the net for an answer for his apparent silence.
So am I the only to remember the good ol days of launcher pro? What was your experience with this app?
Does anyone know of his whereabouts?
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To the mods
I'm not sure but I think this should have been placed in the general section. It was meant for more of a general topic than a question. I appreciate your help in moving this to general. Thank you
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Try posting in General next time... lol
Ha ha, thanks for the tip.
Why is the right door always locked?
Anyone know? Hope he is ok.
any news?
Word. As an early android user myself Launcher Pro was a beacon of hope for functional, efficient and beautiful app seekers like me. I still remember the impending launch of the social stream widget that would show a combined stream of all my social networks. I could be wrong but I think at the time the only other widget with such a capability was provided by stock launchers. HTC sense if my memory serves me right.
I lost little time in deciding to buy the pro version on what was a launcher that absolutely had no competition for the features I was looking for. I recall even then Frederico would take his time in implementing new features. That was cool because Frederico was connecting to my needs.
I came upon this post when I happened to search for Frederico after chancing upon LP on the play store and being reminded of my early experiences with Android. I too was intrigued to notice that the app hasn't been updated in years.
Wonder what happened to the developer.
It's nothing uncommon for developers just to stop and walk away. It happens everyday. Mainly with Android developers.
I've been using LP since the first Galaxy S phone came out. Was using it until the other day on a Galaxy S5 with Android L. Wanted to try it on the Pocophone now but it's not on Google Play anymore. Awesome piece of work ...
Yeah... i just wanted to re-download it myself a couple days ago and noticed it was missing... i took the time to chat with Google play help, and this is what they gave me in answer, after checking with the Google play team...
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I just randomly thought about this for the first time inamy years lol. Anyone know what happened?
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I just randomly thought about this for the first time inamy years lol. Anyone know what happened?
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Same here. It really shows what a great app it was if there are this many strangers reminiscing about it over the years. I found similar posts/pages via a Google search of others that have wondered as well.
Hello Everyone!
I have a a Tab S6 currently on Android 9 (stock) that unfortunately still won't get Android updates. I know Pie went out more than 3 years ago and I'd like to at least get on Android 10. But since I got this last December, I've been checking for new updates every week and I'm always told that my software is up to date.
Would you guys happen to know why that is the case?
Thank you very much in advance!
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I have two Note 10+'s, both stock with their original firmware, one's running on Pie, the other 10. Pie has better functionality and usability.
Security is simply not an issue unless you do stupid things*.
Leave it on Pie and be happy... you can upgrade at any time, no rush.
*if you use wifi (which I never do) that is a known vulnerability in Pie. Android 10 is more hardened for those attacks. It's more a public unsecure wifi issue which you should never use anyway.
If you use wifi or bluetooth in high population density areas you should research those vulnerabilities and then decide.
I'm ready to reload at anytime and my critical data is redundantly backed up... so I just don't care. My current load on my Pie variant will be 2 yo in June, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance. What's not to like?
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I have two Note 10+'s, both stock with their original firmware, one's running on Pie, the other 10. Pie has better functionality and usability.
Security is simply not an issue unless you do stupid things*.
Leave it on Pie and be happy... you can upgrade at any time, no rush.
*if you use wifi (which I never do) that is a known vulnerability in Pie. Android 10 is more hardened for those attacks. It's more a public unsecure wifi issue which you should never use anyway.
If you use wifi or bluetooth in high population density areas you should research those vulnerabilities and then decide.
I'm ready to reload at anytime and my critical data is redundantly backed up... so I just don't care. My current load on my Pie variant will be 2 yo in June, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance. What's not to like?
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Thank you very much for your input. I would definitely consider leaving it on Pie.
Cheers!
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Thank you very much for your input. I would definitely consider leaving it on Pie.
Cheers!
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You're welcome.
I really like Pie. Having 2 near identical N10+'s allows me to compare both OS versions side by side. Android 10 has dozens of new small Samsung system apps to maintain the UI's functionality and appearance. Both versions look nearly identical but Pie is easier to navigate the settings. There's no cpu cycle sucking scoped storage with Pie, it seems largely inactive in 10.
That changes with 11 and 12 is completely fubar.
Install Karma Firewall. A VPN based freeware app the uses almost no battery and will help secure your device and let you what accessing the internet. It's valuable logging feature is fully functional in Pie, but not Android 10.
It's on Playstore too.
Use this DNS setting to globally block ads and some blacklisted sites.