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I am currently looking and picking up one of these tablets, because I need a tablet + phone. I currently have the value plan that includes Talk+Text+2GB. I've read issues that some others have run across, saying that T-Mobile won't let them use a normal phone sim, and are requiring that you get a tablet plan (which I don't need or want). Is this true? How many folks are running fine on just a regular T-Mo phone + data SIM plan?
I'm having a hard time believing that no one else is using this device as a phone/tablet and can verify what plan works...
Seriously, if I buy an HTC Flyer on ebay, install LeeDroid on it for phone, and pop my SIM (Value 500 mins+text+2GB) in, will voice/text/data all work fine?
Most of the people on here with Flyers are USA wifi-only, my impression being here for awhile.
There are more 3G flyers outside the USA. There's a guide on the flyer section to getting phone working but since I don't have a flyer, I cannot verify that for you.
Keep in mind that there is no earpiece on these tablets. You have to either use the speaker or get a bluetooth device.
With the view I also believe it's possible as well, but you may have to either do some workaround with sprint or go with boost. Just read the development threads.
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Most of the people on here with Flyers are USA wifi-only, my impression being here for awhile.
There are more 3G flyers outside the USA. There's a guide on the flyer section to getting phone working but since I don't have a flyer, I cannot verify that for you.
Keep in mind that there is no earpiece on these tablets. You have to either use the speaker or get a bluetooth device.
With the view I also believe it's possible as well, but you may have to either do some workaround with sprint or go with boost. Just read the development threads.
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Thanks! And yes I'm aware there's no earpiece, I plan on using only bluetooth. I would imagine, and from the small amount of research I've done, that with an international device (non T-Mobile branded) that the IMEI will not be in T-Mobiles network/database so the device should work just like a phone works, as it would show up as just a generic phone device.
I have the tablet for use as a phone while traveling. Just ask them for a PAYG sim card with voice and data enabled. I have 1 SIM that's data-only, and that works great. I just acquired a SIM that's voice and data, $3/day and it works great as well. T-Mobile service, just refll as needed. When I travel I plan to get a prepaid SIM and load it with ~$50 of service, pop it in, and call it a day.
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You could also keep the Flyer 3g GB stock, root it, and follow the directons for enabling voice calls. You get BT use like that too, as I recall. I've accepted that I need to use the speakerphone if Lee doesn't get BT working on the honeycomb build.
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I have the tablet for use as a phone while traveling. Just ask them for a PAYG sim card with voice and data enabled. I have 1 SIM that's data-only, and that works great. I just acquired a SIM that's voice and data, $3/day and it works great as well. T-Mobile service, just refll as needed. When I travel I plan to get a prepaid SIM and load it with ~$50 of service, pop it in, and call it a day.
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You could also keep the Flyer 3g GB stock, root it, and follow the directons for enabling voice calls. You get BT use like that too, as I recall. I've accepted that I need to use the speakerphone if Lee doesn't get BT working on the honeycomb build.
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Bluetooth doesn't work on the Leedroid ROM? Ugh
I'm assuming since it works fine with prepaid that it'll work fine with my value plan, I can't really change yet since I'm still under contract, and actually really enjoy the value plan since it's a great deal for what you get.
BT doesn't work for *phone calls* on Lee's ROM. HC was never designed to be used on phones, only tablets. The fact that Lee got phone calls working at all is amazing in and of itself.
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BT doesn't work for *phone calls* on Lee's ROM. HC was never designed to be used on phones, only tablets. The fact that Lee got phone calls working at all is amazing in and of itself.
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Sure enough. Does it work with wired headsets?
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Sure enough. Does it work with wired headsets?
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I believe it does; I don't know where any of my wired phone headsets are to try. The issue Lee is having is with the BT stack that shipped with HC (since it was never intended for phones, it's being colicky when a phone call is established). I think he's even tried the GB BT stack and started having better luck.
But again, GB works great for calls, BT and all, since GB was intended to be used on a phone. If phone calls are truly important, stick with GB (with or without Lee's ROM) until he gets this worked out or until ICS is fully functional on the Flyer.
Just my $.02 worth, YMMV...
The catch is, your contract must be fulfilled. But it's a start:
http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2013/db1114/DOC-324166A1.pdf
Note- this is referring to SIM unlocking and NOT bootloader unlocking.
wow , we are on the start here of some cooperation from the carriers,,thanx for posting,,steve:good:
so if im off contract with verizon they have to unlock my phones from now on? since i buy everything at full retail off contract?
This device is already sim unlocked. This doesn't impact us at all.
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This device is already sim unlocked. This doesn't impact us at all.
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I was about to say the same. Most phones on Verizon are sim unlocked now.
Sent from my VZW Galaxy Note 3
Great that this is finally happen to promote competitive pricing on hardware that will no longer be exclusive to a carrier
I understood it better by reading this news article http://www.techspot.com/news/54711-...-wireless-carriers-to-unlock-cell-phones.html
While this does not effect our Note 3, it does effect Verizon's network availability to other carriers phones. i.e. phones that support all bands etc etc will also have to be available for use on Verizon. With the latest phones supporting all bands/frequencies (gsm & cdma both) it will allow us to use other phones that we could not before.
Example here would be the Nexus 5 support (our band(s) of lte can be enabled through ota as long as Verizon's network will allow it, but obviously Google can't do that until Verizon signs off on it)
Basically qualcomm has it disabled in the chip itself....and it can be updated.....
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While this does not effect our Note 3, it does effect Verizon's network availability to other carriers phones. i.e. phones that support all bands etc etc will also have to be available for use on Verizon. With the latest phones supporting all bands/frequencies (gsm & cdma both) it will allow us to use other phones that we could not before.
Example here would be the Nexus 5 support (our band(s) of lte can be enabled through ota as long as Verizon's network will allow it, but obviously Google can't do that until Verizon signs off on it)
Basically qualcomm has it disabled in the chip itself....and it can be updated.....
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You would still have to be able to activate the device on Verizon's network, which they don't and likely won't allow. Unlocking the SIM doesn't make it work with Verizon.
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You would still have to be able to activate the device on Verizon's network, which they don't and likely won't allow. Unlocking the SIM doesn't make it work with Verizon.
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Re-read what I wrote.
I'm referring to unlocking the chip itself, not just the SIM. And I also stated the same thing about verizon not allowing it, hence what this thread is about. Verizon doesn't allow it, but that's what the FCC is trying to change.
Example - 2013 Nexus 7..... Similar to what I'm referring to.
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Long story short, if this actually got approved, manufacturers could make phones that support Verizon's bands/frequencies regardless of how Verizon feels about it. Device would be compatible even without Verizon's permission.
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Re-read what I wrote.
I'm referring to unlocking the chip itself, not just the SIM. And I also stated the same thing about verizon not allowing it, hence what this thread is about. Verizon doesn't allow it, but that's what the FCC is trying to change.
Example - 2013 Nexus 7..... Similar to what I'm referring to.
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Long story short, if this actually got approved, manufacturers could make phones that support Verizon's bands/frequencies regardless of how Verizon feels about it. Device would be compatible even without Verizon's permission.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk
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This is only true with an LTE only device which will exist towards the end of the year. However VoLTE will still be limited. Any device with CDMA tech will not get approved unless it's a Verizon device. This IS about carrier (SIM) unlocking. Not sure what "chip" you are referring to.
Hi guys, sorry if this has been asked before, but is there an EE stock rom floating about?
Short story is: my lg g5 was stolen, my insurance replaced my g5 but it no longer has wifi calling or access to the 800mhz 4GEE network as it no longer has carrier specific firmware on it, therefore I want to flash carrier specific firmware to the phone.
Is this possible?
Cheers!
I downloaded one a few months back, let me see if i can find it quickly online, otherwise I'll upload it when i get home.
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Hope this one still works
http://lg-firmwares.com/lg-h850-firmwares/
As regular XDA folks, many knew the tight bond between Honor and XDA. While that's great for the development of a device, there are somethings that got compromised in view10 hence I couldn't go for it. Most probably you'd also need to skip for some of the reasons!
USB v2!!! (Come on Honor, This is 2018)
Mono cam as 2nd lens (Though honor claims it enhancing Pic, we see Mate 10 doesn't have Mono sensor nor OP3 with single cam+HDR+ captures stunning pics)
LCD (This is not a bumper for all, but I felt just like many other LCDs minimum brightness device can go to is bit bright and hurt my eyes during Night dark scenes. AMOLED is welcome)
Flagship coming with Bluetooth v4.2 in 2018?
No clarification of LTE+ (In India hardly manufactures reach out to consumers. I love the way Honor does it via XDA. But I posted this question https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75249748&postcount=97 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75234210&postcount=1081 and am still confused if it supports CA or not! For Indian band answer is nowhere available http://www.huawei.com/en/news/2017/9/Huawei-Kirin970-Rohde-Schwarz Still no answers after a week! )
Camera hump ( Not a big deal for me anyway)
Long term software support (Honor seems to give only 1 year of software OS/sec. patch support)
[*]No ROMs available so far
[*]Unavailability of AOSP ROM and Honor trying to force EMUI (At XDA everyone loves features on top of AOSP. But Honor seems to welcome dev without sharing vanilla AOSP sources on top of which EMUI is built. I'd love to see fully functional AOSP in EMUI. While Thanks to Treble,Thats been worked out, if Honor hellps devs out that would mean much dev-friendly device and also comeup ROMs in https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-view-10/development ) Calling big boys to party with free phones hopefully ensures this https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-announces-developers-honor-view-10-recipients/
Few other points I missed.,
@ermacwins No EIS or OIS
No one universal model (v10 has Region specific models, Check https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75394470&postcount=19)
I hope to get some answers @[email protected]_USA @DrGreenway
Thus with this list is the max no cons one can come up with. If none of this feels like Con then not even Oneplus has a better device at this price point for this. Hope Honor takes these Inputs to make me their future iterations..!
"No ROMs available so far"
Phh-Treble boots. So does Uber too, but we're rebasing on CAF. Until I see sources from Honor, I and other developers can't do much, but at least they are trying
"USB V2"
It is type C, and it's pretty fast. I don't see the problem here.
Regarding the mono camera lense... Is that even a con? It's pretty damn good. Took some 20mp shots the other day when I went to the hospital and they are beautiful.
And not providing an AOSP based ROM is distant. Would I prefer it? Yes. But the only three OEMs I've seen doing this are Sony, OnePlus, and Google (obviously). Their AI wouldn't be as prominent either. I sort of get what you're saying though. Nothing a custom ROM can't fix
BUT. None of those issues are actual problems for me. I have a really hard time critiquing the device. Only thing I wish it had is waterproofing and US bands.... Best device I've ever had to date.
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"No ROMs available so far"
Phh-Treble boots. So does Uber too, but we're rebasing on CAF. Until I see sources from Honor, I and other developers can't do much, but at least they are trying
---"USB V2" It is type C, and it's pretty fast. I don't see the problem here.
---Regarding the mono camera lense... Is that even a con? It's pretty damn good. Took some 20mp shots the other day when I went to the hospital and they are beautiful.
---And not providing an AOSP based ROM is distant. Would I prefer it? Yes. But the only three OEMs I've seen doing this are Sony, OnePlus, and Google (obviously). Their AI wouldn't be as prominent either. I sort of get what you're saying though. Nothing a custom ROM can't fix
BUT. None of those issues are actual problems for me. I have a really hard time critiquing the device. Only thing I wish it had is waterproofing and US bands.... Best device I've ever had to date.
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Yeah thats exactly my point. I'm great that devs are working for Treble but unless OEMs like Huawei help with some AOSP blobs/sources its difficult. Also, phone is supposed to get its software support die pretty soon (like in a year, which is unreasonable for a flagship grade phone)
Also, I use Samsung T3 pocket SSD, which connect via USB-C. Most of laptops also connect like that. Why should I compromise with terrible speeds of 34MBps max when my Phone has UFS storage of 200MBps and SSD more than that, due to decade old USB version? USB-C is just a socket, Bus version matters.
Camera, As you agreed pics are good using a single lens. 2nd cam in the phone seems a total waste of space, wherein If Wide-angle lens has gone in it would have been much useful!
About AOSP while others are doing it, for software development that's critical. Else no one dev will hope into dev. You have N no. of phones, Samsung/LG/etc devices where hardly any ROM will be developed expect stock. I'm hoping this phone with such great hardware shouldn't go through that same thing. For AI and stuffs all those can be part of /vender so that /system can seemlessly evolve...
Waterproof and US Bands are good points, what I am emphasizing is Honor seems like they're imitating OnePlus to give better device and I am justifying that they still don't listen to hardcore android freaks despite they pertain to that...
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Yeah thats exactly my point. I'm great that devs are working for Treble but unless OEMs like Huawei help with some AOSP blobs/sources its difficult. Also, phone is supposed to get its software support die pretty soon (like in a year, which is unreasonable for a flagship grade phone)
Also, I use Samsung T3 pocket SSD, which connect via USB-C. Most of laptops also connect like that. Why should I compromise with terrible speeds of 34MBps max when my Phone has UFS storage of 200MBps and SSD more than that, due to decade old USB version? USB-C is just a socket, Bus version matters.
Camera, As you agreed pics are good using a single lens. 2nd cam in the phone seems a total waste of space, wherein If Wide-angle lens has gone in it would have been much useful!
About AOSP while others are doing it, for software development that's critical. Else no one dev will hope into dev. You have N no. of phones, Samsung/LG/etc devices where hardly any ROM will be developed expect stock. I'm hoping this phone with such great hardware shouldn't go through that same thing. For AI and stuffs all those can be part of /vender so that /system can seemlessly evolve...
Waterproof and US Bands are good points, what I am emphasizing is Honor seems like they're imitating OnePlus to give better device and I am justifying that they still don't listen to hardcore android freaks despite they pertain to that...
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Having a ROM closer to AOSP wouldn't help development at all sadly. You could put Hello Kitty ROM on the thing and there's no determent or aid for developers.
I'm aware that type C is a socket. I'm getting speeds higher than v2 though. I don't use it enough outside of fastboot to really care.
We will be getting sources for the thing pretty soon actually. As far as what we get, it's up to us developers to push for it. They've contacted a few of us directly to reinforce what we need.
Lack of carrier aggregation is the only reason stopping me to buy Honor View 10. I tried to find the info everywhere even Honor India support is clueless if CA is available in this device
No EIS or OIS is definitely a con
no image stabilization and at least for now a lack of root.
CertifiedBlyndGuy said:
"No ROMs available so far"
Phh-Treble boots. So does Uber too, but we're rebasing on CAF. Until I see sources from Honor, I and other developers can't do much, but at least they are trying
"USB V2"
It is type C, and it's pretty fast. I don't see the problem here.
Regarding the mono camera lense... Is that even a con? It's pretty damn good. Took some 20mp shots the other day when I went to the hospital and they are beautiful.
And not providing an AOSP based ROM is distant. Would I prefer it? Yes. But the only three OEMs I've seen doing this are Sony, OnePlus, and Google (obviously). Their AI wouldn't be as prominent either. I sort of get what you're saying though. Nothing a custom ROM can't fix
BUT. None of those issues are actual problems for me. I have a really hard time critiquing the device. Only thing I wish it had is waterproofing and US bands.... Best device I've ever had to date.
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It does have US bands. It supports I believe 4 LTE bands on ATT which is who I have its just that you'll have to call their device management department to get the correct APN settings to get any data. I also have had to resort to using allo to send and receive MMS.
It supports only one band I think of t-mobile but you still can get 2 or 3g speeds.
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no image stabilization and at least for now a lack of root.
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It has root I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted earlier today using the FH mate tool easily.
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Lack of carrier aggregation is the only reason stopping me to buy Honor View 10. I tried to find the info everywhere even Honor India support is clueless if CA is available in this device
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Carrier aggregation is supported I see it as an option on mine and its on. This is in the US however.
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It does have US bands. It supports I believe 4 LTE bands on ATT which is who I have its just that you'll have to call their device management department to get the correct APN settings to get any data. I also have had to resort to using allo to send and receive MMS.
It supports only one band I think of t-mobile but you still can get 2 or 3g speeds.
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It has root I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted earlier today using the FH mate tool easily.
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Carrier aggregation is supported I see it as an option on mine and its on. This is in the US however.
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Yeah. I know. But right now I pay $20 a month to TM for unlimited data with our plan. To pay AT&T $80 a month doesn't make sense to me. It would literally be cheaper to go with a Pixel 2 XL with everything maxed out at that point through the Google store if it's looked at that way. Nonetheless though, I love the phone.
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Yeah. I know. But right now I pay $20 a month to TM for unlimited data with our plan. To pay AT&T $80 a month doesn't make sense to me. It would literally be cheaper to go with a Pixel 2 XL with everything maxed out at that point through the Google store if it's looked at that way. Nonetheless though, I love the phone.
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Damn how do you only pay that much?! I definitely love this phone. I know that later they're supposed to release it in the US and I've seen one seller on ebay that is based in the US so maybe thats the version you could always see.
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Damn how do you only pay that much?! I definitely love this phone. I know that later they're supposed to release it in the US and I've seen one seller on ebay that is based in the US so maybe thats the version you could always see.
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5 of us share a plan. My brother, my sister in law, her mother, her cousin, and me. 10gb with turnover into the following month... So kind of unlimited. I don't ever usually pass 4gb lol. Data saver and everything are always enabled and I don't stream crap except for music through Spotify on the bus and when I walk.
I'm going to see if someone couldn't upload the US firmware so I can see whether or not it is a hard block. If it is, I may just forget it and get a Pixel 2 XL and put monthly payments down for that. It would be disappointing but there isn't much I can do
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5 of us share a plan. My brother, my sister in law, her mother, her cousin, and me. 10gb with turnover into the following month... So kind of unlimited. I don't ever usually pass 4gb lol. Data saver and everything are always enabled and I don't stream crap except for music through Spotify on the bus and when I walk.
I'm going to see if someone couldn't upload the US firmware so I can see whether or not it is a hard block. If it is, I may just forget it and get a Pixel 2 XL and put monthly payments down for that. It would be disappointing but there isn't much I can do
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If you do find US firmware definitely post it up I'd definitely use it
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It does have US bands. It supports I believe 4 LTE bands on ATT which is who I have its just that you'll have to call their device management department to get the correct APN settings to get any data. I also have had to resort to using allo to send and receive MMS.
It supports only one band I think of t-mobile but you still can get 2 or 3g speeds.
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It has root I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted earlier today using the FH mate tool easily.
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Carrier aggregation is supported I see it as an option on mine and its on. This is in the US however.
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At this point, the V10 for the US/North America is vaporware. It was supposed to have launched on 8 January along side the International and Indian versions. That was the statement made at the 5 December London event. Then the V10 page disappeared from Honor's US website and suddenly the US/North American version launch date and price weren't going to be made available. Very recently, the V10 page reloaded on Honor's US site, but it doesn't contain any specs about the 4G FDD bands that will be supported. It should be more than AT&T's bands since it should be able to support Canada (Mexico pretty much uses AT&T bands)--T Mobile's established FDD bands should be supported, but Samsung will probably remain the only brand including radios for T Mobile's new spectrum in phones this year. Honor needs to post all the 4G FDD bands in the specs, it's not acceptable to only say FDD--that gives absolutely no information on carrier support.
I checked I had T-Mobile and at least the international one only supports 2 or 3g with them. It supports all of their noon or most of their non LTE bands but only one of the LTE which means no LTE. I finally got everything working on att including MMS. just took a few days att recognized the device as essentially a flip phone and only capable of 2g. After talking to the a few times they simply changed some settings on their end and I'm more than happy with it. I wouldn't even wait for the US version assuming it ever comes.
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If you do find US firmware definitely post it up I'd definitely use it
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The US/North American V10 hasn't been released, no release date or pricing information has been announced. Everything was pushed back from a stated 8 January launch without explanation. It looks like the earliest that they may begin shipping the US/North American version is Q2--we're almost to February. If it doesn't ship by Q2, then I wouldn't expect to see a US/ North American version at all.
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I checked I had T-Mobile and at least the international one only supports 2 or 3g with them. It supports all of their noon or most of their non LTE bands but only one of the LTE which means no LTE. I finally got everything working on att including MMS. just took a few days att recognized the device as essentially a flip phone and only capable of 2g. After talking to the a few times they simply changed some settings on their end and I'm more than happy with it. I wouldn't even wait for the US version assuming it ever comes.
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The vast majority of AT&T's LTE markets still primarily use FDD Band 17, which isn't supported by the International version. You're fortunate that you're in a metropolitan area that supports a lesser used band that's included in the International version. My region and my roaming areas are all FDD Band 17 only. You may have issues when you have to roam in other areas of the US.
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I checked I had T-Mobile and at least the international one only supports 2 or 3g with them. It supports all of their noon or most of their non LTE bands but only one of the LTE which means no LTE. I finally got everything working on att including MMS. just took a few days att recognized the device as essentially a flip phone and only capable of 2g. After talking to the a few times they simply changed some settings on their end and I'm more than happy with it. I wouldn't even wait for the US version assuming it ever comes.
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The vast majority of AT&T's LTE markets still primarily use FDD Band 17, which isn't supported by the International version. You're fortunate that you're in a metropolitan area that supports a lesser used band that's included in the International version. My region and my roaming areas are all FDD Band 17 only. You may have issues when you have to roam in other areas of the US.
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I checked I had T-Mobile and at least the international one only supports 2 or 3g with them. It supports all of their noon or most of their non LTE bands but only one of the LTE which means no LTE. I finally got everything working on att including MMS. just took a few days att recognized the device as essentially a flip phone and only capable of 2g. After talking to the a few times they simply changed some settings on their end and I'm more than happy with it. I wouldn't even wait for the US verssion assuming it ever comes.
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There's only one AT&T 4G FDD band supported by the International version of the V10--FDD Band 5, which isn't supported on the vast majority of AT&T's LTE network. Keep your eye on the network status of your phone. You may find as you travel around your city that you fall back to 3G data at times as many towers in metro areas that have some support for FDD Bands 2,4 or 5 remain FDD Band 17 only. Here's a list of US/Canadian carrier cellular bands. https://www.signalbooster.com/pages/what-are-the-cellular-frequencies-of-cell-phone-carriers-in-usa-canada
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There's only one AT&T 4G FDD band supported by the International version of the V10--FDD Band 5, which isn't supported on the vast majority of AT&T's LTE network. Keep your eye on the network status of your phone. You may find as you travel around your city that you fall back to 3G data at times as many towers in metro areas that have some support for FDD Bands 2,4 or 5 remain FDD Band 17 only. Here's a list of US/Canadian carrier cellular bands. https://www.signalbooster.com/pages...quencies-of-cell-phone-carriers-in-usa-canada
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I've been I'm Dallas, Arlington and fort Worth and cities in between and never dropped below hspa+. It also supports band 2,4,12 and 17 which are all LTE. The only issue I had was that because the phone is unrecognized it was automatically put in as a 2g device. I've traveled 60 some miles in a few directions each and almost always had LTE. It was partially trying to get the correct settings on the phone and then on their end.
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I've been I'm Dallas, Arlington and fort Worth and cities in between and never dropped below hspa+. It also supports band 2,4,12 and 17 which are all LTE. The only issue I had was that because the phone is unrecognized it was automatically put in as a 2g device. I've traveled 60 some miles in a few directions each and almost always had LTE. It was partially trying to get the correct settings on the phone and then on their end.
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The International/Global version of the V10 supports 4G FDD bands 1/3/5/8/38/39/41. https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/ARa6n/huawei-honor-view-10-global-dual-sim-td-lte-bkl-l09-128gb You are falling off LTE because only FDD band 5 is supported by AT&T, and then only in some metropolitan areas, and then only in areas of those cities with congestion issues. (Technically, HSPA+ is 3G, granted souped up 3G speeds but not with data rates as high as 4G.)
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whymista said:
Carrier aggregation is supported I see it as an option on mine and its on. This is in the US however.
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Lack of carrier aggregation is the only reason stopping me to buy Honor View 10. I tried to find the info everywhere even Honor India support is clueless if CA is available in this device
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Even I'm still clueless despite me asking in various threads, no honor guys have data. I am sure in Indian market its already selling in big nos. No answer usually means no native CA support on 3/5/40 bands!
Thanks for your region specific inputs on LTE @mke1973 @whymista @CertifiedBlyndGuy
This is actually a huge issue, just like OP3 got LTE+ CA support in US/EU bands it never got CA on 3/5/40 Indian bands despite selling in huge no. Having such region-specific models hampers long-term dev, which Honor should workaround with better designed universal bands-supported phones like MI MIX2.
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At this point, the V10 for the US/North America is vaporware. It was supposed to have launched on 8 January along side the International and Indian versions. That was the statement made at the 5 December London event. Then the V10 page disappeared from Honor's US website and suddenly the US/North American version launch date and price weren't going to be made available. Very recently, the V10 page reloaded on Honor's US site, but it doesn't contain any specs about the 4G FDD bands that will be supported. It should be more than AT&T's bands since it should be able to support Canada (Mexico pretty much uses AT&T bands)--T Mobile's established FDD bands should be supported, but Samsung will probably remain the only brand including radios for T Mobile's new spectrum in phones this year. Honor needs to post all the 4G FDD bands in the specs, it's not acceptable to only say FDD--that gives absolutely no information on carrier support.
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It's not vaporware if it's already been released somewhere -- that refers to prototype hardware/software that never sees the light of day. Anyways, what I read from the official statement was that the "International" release (UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain and India) was January 8th, with the US launch to be announced at a later time. I think some people saw "international" and immediately thought it included the US.
I have a Galaxy S9+ that currently has AT&T firmware G965USQU3ARG7. I registered the phone with Boost, but the hands-free activation will not start, nor do the usual methods work like ##72786#, *#*#72786#*#*, or update PRL (that option is not available on the software). So I was wondering if I could use Odin to flash the latest Sprint firmware to the phone? It looks like the latest Sprint firmware on Sammobile is G965USQU3BRK1, and appears to be a couple months newer than the ARG7 that is on the phone currently. Is this something that I could do, and that would allow me to then activate the phone?
Jordan
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I have a Galaxy S9+ that currently has AT&T firmware G965USQU3ARG7. I registered the phone with Boost, but the hands-free activation will not start, nor do the usual methods work like ##72786#, *#*#72786#*#*, or update PRL (that option is not available on the software). So I was wondering if I could use Odin to flash the latest Sprint firmware to the phone? It looks like the latest Sprint firmware on Sammobile is G965USQU3BRK1, and appears to be a couple months newer than the ARG7 that is on the phone currently. Is this something that I could do, and that would allow me to then activate the phone?
Jordan
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The latest Sprint firmware should be CSAB, which is pie?
Can you elaborate on hands free activation?
Activation for what?
You should have no problem using Odin to flash whatever firmware you want, but because you're on an MVNO, it'll take some tinkering to get everything working. First, I would check to see whether Boost sells the u version or the u1 and flash according to the phone they sell under their own service.
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Thanks for clarifying the latest version! Its weird b/c Sammobile did not list CSAB for Sprint, but I did see it listed for Verizon. Either way, that should work for my application.
So the "Hands Free Activation" is what Sprint/Boost/Virgin use to program the phone to work with the network. Simply inserting a SIM card like you can do with the GSM carriers is not enough to get the phone working with their network. You have to tell the carrier the IMEI and SIM of the phone, then the phone will go through the "Hands Free Activation" process, then it is ready to use.
Both Sprint and Boost phones use the same firmware, and the specifics to each carrier are handled during the "Hands Free Activation". So I will try out the CSAB firmware later today and report back on if that works!
The issue you're running into I don't think is necessarily firmware related. The phone is probably carrier locked to Sprint. Has sprint provided you an unlock code to switch carriers?
As far as switching firmware, because you're with an MVNO, personally I would not flash a "U" (carrier specific) firmware unless Boost has carrier specific features you would benefit from using (Which I doubt).
Reason I say that, Sprint uses a different technology/system to provide simultaneous voice and data and using a Sprint (or other U firmware) might cause compatibility issues, in that regard, because you're on an MVNO that can't/may not utilize Sprint's unique system.
That being said, Sprint has (finally) gotten on board with VoLTE which is universal, and has started to implement this into their network.
Most MVNO's have limitations on BYOP (bring your own phone) plans because of the firmware carrier restrictions placed on the phone. For instance, when I switched from Verizon to Straight Talk, I immediately wasn't able to use simultaneous voice/data because I was running Verizon configured firmware through a different carrier.
This was corrected by flashing a universal (Factory Unlocked) G965U1 firmware. This enables the universal VoLTE option the phone has instead of trying to bridge voice/data with Verizon's preset configurations.
Most MVNOs that sell devices with their service, almost unanimously, sell factory unlocked phones that aren't branded to any specific carrier.
Your best option, in my opinion, is to emulate the devices THEY sell (including Boost) by flashing G965U1 firmware (latest package is CSA8). Either download from XDA or Sammobile "XAA Unknown" region for carrier.
That firmware package, when loading it into ODIN you'll have two CSC files. Don't use the CSC_HOME file, use the other one. This will perform a full wipe (backup your data) and change your carrier to "Unknown" and effectively make your phone universal (which boost prefers).
Since Boost has already activated your IMEI on their network, your phone "should" automatically configure itself to their network at the initial setup after the flash.
If you continue to run into any hiccups, let me know and I'll try to help you work through them. Let me know either way how it works out for you. [emoji16]
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By the way, flashing U firmware will remove all traces of Sprint from the phone (All the bloatware) and enable free caller ID. Which is a plus of using Unlocked firmware. You can download the boost app through Google play to manage your account after you set up the phone again.
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U1 firmware, not U*
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I just noticed you said the phone was AT&T branded. As far as I know, AT&T Sim locks their phones and you'll need the unlock code from AT&T to use the phone on another carrier regardless of whether you use ODIN or not. I'm assuming you have this code if you're trying to use the phone dialer to change carriers, correct?
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You are correct that I did get the SIM unlock code for the phone! I also really like the idea of flashing the U1 version of the firmware to the phone! I will get that download started and try that later today, and keep you posted!
Thanks!
Jordan
You also didn't mention anything about APN (Access point name). This points your device to the appropriate bands and connects to the provided network. You could also try googling Boost's APN settings and changing yours accordingly and seeing if youre then able to connect to their network. Sometimes this must be done manually when not performing a factory reset after switching carriers/sim cards.
Try changing the APN settings and see if you're able to connect. If you can, great!
If you can connect to both voice/data simultaneously, even better.
Then it's just a matter of either leaving the current firmware or switching to unlocked to remove the bloatware and gain free caller ID. [emoji16]
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https://bestmvno.com/apn-settings/boost-mobile-apn-settings/
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Its funny that you mention the APN because that was actually the first thing that I tried I found a few different configurations that did not seem to work unfortunately! I am certainly not ruling that out as part of my solution to getting this phone activated though.
The simultaneous voice/data thing is where you sold me! If I can make that work then I would be STOKED!
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Its funny that you mention the APN because that was actually the first thing that I tried I found a few different configurations that did not seem to work unfortunately! I am certainly not ruling that out as part of my solution to getting this phone activated though.
The simultaneous voice/data thing is where you sold me! If I can make that work then I would be STOKED!
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This post may help with the missing option you were talking about.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....pn-settings-boost-mobile-tested-t3603786/amp/
Sprint is still in it's early stages of VoLTE integration. They were suppose to start implementing it last fall, but that was delayed until December. Most markets are seeing VoLTE already. As long as your APN settings are correct and you're running U1 firmware, you "should" have VoLTE right off the bat. If not, it's a matter of time for VoLTE to pop up on your phone one day soon and have it at your disposal.
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Jordan Keck said:
I have a Galaxy S9+ that currently has AT&T firmware G965USQU3ARG7. I registered the phone with Boost, but the hands-free activation will not start, nor do the usual methods work like ##72786#, *#*#72786#*#*, or update PRL (that option is not available on the software). So I was wondering if I could use Odin to flash the latest Sprint firmware to the phone? It looks like the latest Sprint firmware on Sammobile is G965USQU3BRK1, and appears to be a couple months newer than the ARG7 that is on the phone currently. Is this something that I could do, and that would allow me to then activate the phone?
Jordan
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Jordan, try this code and apply the unlock code. #7465625*638*# AT&T does something differently sometimes.
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I think you may have been given the wrong dialer code to enter the sim unlock prompt. ?
hyperblu, thanks so much! I will have access to the phone in a couple of hours and will try that code!
If that doesn't work, try #7465625*638*#
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The 2nd one will probably be the correct one. The code you provided that you claim did nothing is for a Galaxy s6 if I'm not mistaken. [emoji16]
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I've never used Sprint or Boost, but I assume you're not using a sim card, correct? You're going from GSM to CDMA and because CDMA doesn't use a sim card...which is the trigger for the sim unlock prompt, that explains why you're not getting a pop-up. The dialer code you tried that did nothing was the likely the wrong code to trigger the prompt too. Let me know. [emoji6]
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And just to clarify... Your sim unlock code is a completely separate code from your dialer code to trigger the prompt. I don't want you to mistaken the dialer code as an unlock code. The unlock code will have to be provided from AT&T and you'll have to provide your IMEI to release your phone from their network and they will provide you with an unlock code. If the device is paid in full, you can request an unlock code through their website after providing the IMEI number.
If you have a separate unlock code that you haven't mentioned, good.
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Get it working? Don't leave me hanging!! [emoji23]
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I did get it working!! I used the #7465625*638*# code first to re-enter the unlock, which was successful. After a restart, the phone was still not activating, so I used Odin to install the Sprint version of the firmware (not the U1 because it was not downloaded yet). The phone restarted and immediately recognized the SIM card change and began programming/activating! I now have it working, and am in the process of writing the U1 firmware as I am typing this response!
Thanks so much for your help on this!!
Jordan
It didn't immediately start programming/activating because a restart alone wont trigger a CSC change. You have to perform a factory reset or completely flash with ODIN for the CSC to switch to another carrier/region whenever you're switching between gsm/CDMA networks. Going from a GSM to a GSM carrier it would've made the switch immediately, with the exception of maybe tinkering with the APN settings.
Switching between gsm and CDMA is a whole different animal and requires a full reset to make the required changes.
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Jordan Keck said:
I did get it working!! I used the #7465625*638*# code first to re-enter the unlock, which was successful. After a restart, the phone was still not activating, so I used Odin to install the Sprint version of the firmware (not the U1 because it was not downloaded yet). The phone restarted and immediately recognized the SIM card change and began programming/activating! I now have it working, and am in the process of writing the U1 firmware as I am typing this response!
Thanks so much for your help on this!!
Jordan
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I think you'll like the U1 firmware much better. It won't have the Flipboard and unnecessary/unwanted crap hogging your memory/storage. It's very barebones and unlocks some free goodies too. Glad you got it working though [emoji106] without it, you probably wouldn't be able to get VoLTE with boost. We're you able to make voice/data simultaneously on the sprint firmware?
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ATT phone. I’m on the latest Tmobile Pie firmware. I’m switching to Sprint. What is the best way to switch firmware without “full wipe” and don’t screw up the data/phone? THANKS
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ATT phone. I’m on the latest Tmobile Pie firmware. I’m switching to Sprint. What is the best way to switch firmware without “full wipe” and don’t screw up the data/phone? THANKS
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Full wipe has to happen.
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Full wipe has to happen.
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Nope. NVM. Put Sprint phone in and it auto configs to Sprint (it auto removed some Tmobile apps and installed bunch of Sprint bloats. Very good. No need to full wipe.
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Nope. NVM. Put Sprint phone in and it auto configs to Sprint (it auto removed some Tmobile apps and installed bunch of Sprint bloats. Very good. No need to full wipe.
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Oh wait... You're running 965u firmware. The major carriers will play nice with that. U1 is a different story.
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Oh wait... You're running 965u firmware. The major carriers will play nice with that. U1 is a different story.
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Yeah but i just find out the ATT ver missing band 25 and 26 for Sprint. Sprint needs 25, 26, 41 for LTE and ATT ver only has 41. U1 locked phones have everything
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Yeah but i just find out the ATT ver missing band 25 and 26 for Sprint. Sprint needs 25, 26, 41 for LTE and ATT ver only has 41. U1 locked phones have everything
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The bands used are determined by firmware. All the carriers , Sprint included, all have capability of running on 26.
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The bands used are determined by firmware. All the carriers , Sprint included, all have capability of running on 26.
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Try this *#0011# and tell me if you see 25 and 26. Only 41 there