I'm going to show the common strength and weaknesses of these two, and help you decide which is best for you.
So let's start with similarities :
- USB Type C 2.0
- OLED screen
- HDR10 compatible
- In-screen FP scanner
- Wide, ultrawide, and telephoto lens (48, 13, 8mp)
- Front and back glass design
- Same band compatibilities
- Widevine L1 (global)
- UFS 2.1 Storage
- NFC
- Google Pay
- Fast charge capable
- Bluetooth 5.0
etc. etc.
Now the differences (I'm going to try to make it as short as possible) :
Mi 9T - , Mi 9 SE -
1- 6.39" screen , 5.97" screen
2- Amoled screen , Samsung Amoled screen
3- 4000mah battery , 3070mah battery
4- Sony IMX582 sensor , Sony IMX586 sensor
5- 4K30 with EIS , 4K30 without EIS
6- 1080p up to 960fps , 1080p up to 120fps
7- f/2.2 front camera , f/2.0 front camera
8- Pop-up camera , Dot notch camera/display
9- No support for PD fast charging , Supports PD fast charging
10- Less sensors , More sensors
11- SD 730 , SD 712
12- 8nm processor , 10nm processor
13- 3.5mm jack , no 3.5 jack
Description :
1, 5, 8, 11, 13 are self-explanatory.
2. The Mi 9 SE has a better display than the Mi 9T. It's probably an in-house made Xiaomi amoled screen on the 9T. Therefore, the SE should have better colours and contrast.
3. Despite the 9T having a bigger battery, the SE seems to be able to keep up with the 9T in a few testings on Youtube, maybe the SE will average few hours less than the 9T. So the battery shouldn't be a huge deal, unless you're a heavy gamer go for the 9T.
4. From my research, the 582 can only be recorded up to 4K30, that's all I could fine. However, I've seen a few videos showing a slightly softer image in detail compared to the 586. This is more noticeable in low light, but different image processing could have a play in this scenario.
6. I have no idea why the 9T can record 960fps at 1080p. The SD 730 on Qualcomm's site states that it can record up to 120fps at 1080p and 240fps at 720p (no information about the SD 712). So I don't see why the SE wouldn't be able to record 1080p960.
7. In theory, the SE should produce better selfies than the 9T, especially at low light, but image processing plays a major role here.
9. It's hard for me to explain, just google it XD
10. The SE has more sensors than the 9T for navigation and whatnot. FYI, the SE has an IR blaster where the 9T lacks.
12. A lower nm process results in better performance and better battery life. So the 9T has a lower battery consumption than the SE.
Research is all done by me. Information that I've gathered are from the following sites :
mi.com/global (for spec comparison)
youtube.com (camera and image performance, battery performance)
qualcomm.com (processor specs)
google.com (for definitions and explanations)
Feel free to leave a comment if I miss anything, or leave your opinions!
Reserved
Last week I watched a H265 4K MKV movie on the MI9T. So H265 is definitely supported.
olihey said:
Last week I watched a H265 4K MKV movie on the MI9T. So H265 is definitely supported.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And we can record video with this H265 So ... ;D
The screen of the mi 9t is actually Super Amoled. Screenshot from Aida i.imgur.com/RqSoc0j
Sent from my Mi 9T using Tapatalk
MaxSour said:
The screen of the mi 9t is actually Super Amoled. Screenshot from Aida i.imgur.com/RqSoc0j
Sent from my Mi 9T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The thing is that Xiaomi uses two displays, one it's a Super Amoled, the other one it's Amoled. You can see on this page:
https://www.mi.com/es/mi-9-t/specs/
One it's the same as Mi 9, Mix 3, 9 Se, etc.
The other who knows. So I think that maybe it's the reason that it's not listed as super Amoled, you might get the other one.
---------- Post added at 03:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:16 PM ----------
H265 playback on the 9T it's available.
olihey said:
Last week I watched a H265 4K MKV movie on the MI9T. So H265 is definitely supported.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
razielmcr said:
The thing is that Xiaomi uses two displays, one it's a Super Amoled, the other one it's Amoled. You can see on this page:
https://www.mi.com/es/mi-9-t/specs/
One it's the same as Mi 9, Mix 3, 9 Se, etc.
The other who knows. So I think that maybe it's the reason that it's not listed as super Amoled, you might get the other one.
---------- Post added at 03:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:16 PM ----------
H265 playback on the 9T it's available.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the feedbacks, sometimes xiaomi doesn't list the full specs for some reason. And about the AMOLED screens, I personally think the one in the 9T is not a Samsung one, it was probably a cheaper AMOLED screen for xiaomi to put in the phone, I could be wrong though.
Jt380p said:
Thanks for the feedbacks, sometimes xiaomi doesn't list the full specs for some reason. And about the AMOLED screens, I personally think the one in the 9T is not a Samsung one, it was probably a cheaper AMOLED screen for xiaomi to put in the phone, I could be wrong though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm, maybe you should read this. It's the same I just said, but better explained.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/com..._and/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Tl;dr: they are using both, as the site lists two screens.
Xiaomi mi9t, has better screen then mi9, more bright on sunlight, that was confirmed on some reviews
Related
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi A1 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Nice
I just got my MI A1 as an upgrade for my 4 years old Nexus 5 daily driver. First impressions in Daylight the MI A1 outperforms the Nexus 5, but in low light the lack of OIS and relatively small 1.25 um pixel size means the A1 struggles a lot. Even getting a sharp focus is slow comparing with my Nexus 6P which has laser autofocus.
In comparison my Nexus 5 has OIS and 1.4 um pixels, and my Nexus 6P has 1.55 um pixels.
Taking into account the cost of the MI A1 however, this phone is a tip top performer and I have no compliants for what I paid. Very happy with it.
---------- Post added at 05:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:52 PM ----------
Here are some samples I shot with the MI A1, might post more soon.
Photos have been scaled down by Google Photos app.
1. https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZnPCaOmsNQtHaspq2
2. https://photos.app.goo.gl/9zBmB58K2wp2JGvl1
3. https://photos.app.goo.gl/xluE7J1qFcO27Ols1
4. https://photos.app.goo.gl/IwdZ4ybNZMQtvsxq1
5. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dPQsGItVW1Cal6nr1
6. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vv4HIUyHw3dwM5Wg1
7. https://photos.app.goo.gl/JByd6qk95BiEbriS2
Update 1: After 1 week with the device now I have to say that although daylight photos turn out great, low light shots are abysmal. Still usable in certain cases but very slow
XDA_RealLifeReview said:
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi A1 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The cameras are capable of taking excellent pictures. Unfortunately not every picture is excellent. Blurred photos are fairly common.
Hopefully a fix will come with updated software. I blame the software for the problem because a downloaded camera app is much better. Unfortunately the 2X setting doesn't work with that app.
3545alg said:
The cameras are capable of taking excellent pictures. Unfortunately not every picture is excellent. Blurred photos are fairly common.
Hopefully a fix will come with updated software. I blame the software for the problem because a downloaded camera app is much better. Unfortunately the 2X setting doesn't work with that app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you tell the name of the downloaded camera app?
Aman301582 said:
Can you tell the name of the downloaded camera app?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Open Camera is the name of the app. I would have used it as default if the dual camera was usable.
Leong428 said:
I just got my MI A1 as an upgrade for my 4 years old Nexus 5 daily driver. First impressions in Daylight the MI A1 outperforms the Nexus 5, but in low light the lack of OIS and relatively small 1.25 um pixel size means the A1 struggles a lot. Even getting a sharp focus is slow comparing with my Nexus 6P which has laser autofocus.
In comparison my Nexus 5 has OIS and 1.4 um pixels, and my Nexus 6P has 1.55 um pixels.
Taking into account the cost of the MI A1 however, this phone is a tip top performer and I have no compliants for what I paid. Very happy with it.
---------- Post added at 05:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:52 PM ----------
Here are some samples I shot with the MI A1, might post more soon.
Photos have been scaled down by Google Photos app.
1. https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZnPCaOmsNQtHaspq2
2. https://photos.app.goo.gl/9zBmB58K2wp2JGvl1
3. https://photos.app.goo.gl/xluE7J1qFcO27Ols1
4. https://photos.app.goo.gl/IwdZ4ybNZMQtvsxq1
5. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dPQsGItVW1Cal6nr1
6. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vv4HIUyHw3dwM5Wg1
7. https://photos.app.goo.gl/JByd6qk95BiEbriS2
Update 1: After 1 week with the device now I have to say that although daylight photos turn out great, low light shots are abysmal. Still usable in certain cases but very slow
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bokeh effect is better than moto g5s plus
Low light is better in moto g5s plus
Can we take wide angle photos with the dual camera or any other app ?
Leong428 said:
I just got my MI A1 as an upgrade for my 4 years old Nexus 5 daily driver. First impressions in Daylight the MI A1 outperforms the Nexus 5, but in low light the lack of OIS and relatively small 1.25 um pixel size means the A1 struggles a lot. Even getting a sharp focus is slow comparing with my Nexus 6P which has laser autofocus.
In comparison my Nexus 5 has OIS and 1.4 um pixels, and my Nexus 6P has 1.55 um pixels.
Taking into account the cost of the MI A1 however, this phone is a tip top performer and I have no compliants for what I paid. Very happy with it.
---------- Post added at 05:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:52 PM ----------
Here are some samples I shot with the MI A1, might post more soon.
Photos have been scaled down by Google Photos app.
1. https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZnPCaOmsNQtHaspq2
2. https://photos.app.goo.gl/9zBmB58K2wp2JGvl1
3. https://photos.app.goo.gl/xluE7J1qFcO27Ols1
4. https://photos.app.goo.gl/IwdZ4ybNZMQtvsxq1
5. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dPQsGItVW1Cal6nr1
6. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vv4HIUyHw3dwM5Wg1
7. https://photos.app.goo.gl/JByd6qk95BiEbriS2
Update 1: After 1 week with the device now I have to say that although daylight photos turn out great, low light shots are abysmal. Still usable in certain cases but very slow
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I loved my Nexus 6P camera quality.
How far is the Mi A1 camera in good light condictions from the Nexus 6P?
Inviato dal mio Redmi Note 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
continua.mente said:
I loved my Nexus 6P camera quality.
How far is the Mi A1 camera in good light condictions from the Nexus 6P?
Inviato dal mio Redmi Note 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Disclaimer: I always shoot with HDR+ on my Nexus 6P.
In good lighting the MI A1 with HDR produces results comparable to the 6P in terms of dynamic range, sharpness and saturation. However, Xiaomi's HDR processing is noticeably not as refined as Google's on the 6P. HDR photos can seem slightly exaggerated on the A1 when you compare it side by side with the same shot taken on the 6P.
This isn't noticeable if you judge the photos on their own merit, which are very respectable and will impress you on the first shot almost every time.
In short I would say that the MI A1 has inspired enough confidence for me to carry it around full time as my daily driver and main camera for weekdays and weekends, but I still bring my 6P out when going on trips/vacations for shooting video (DJI Osmo mobile + Nexus 6P).
Here's an example:
A) Taken with HDR on MI A1
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Yg0xG4lqLQHtqh9P2
B) Same shot taken with HDR+ on Nexus 6P
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWYOsn4klJZ24BSF3
----
More samples from the MI A1:
1. https://photos.app.goo.gl/JB7n7XVSKMahvUfP2
2. https://photos.app.goo.gl/emF4EUgMyrwyrnab2
3. https://photos.app.goo.gl/5RbQKmCjDxAnJKJs1
I have a question about the camera, some people said that HDR picture takes times, about 1 to 2 seconds.
Is that correct?
viruzth said:
I have a question about the camera, some people said that HDR picture takes times, about 1 to 2 seconds.
Is that correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, HDR takes about a second
Great Photos using it for 4 days now.
Hi evryone, I am coming from the Moto G2 XT1068 which was my daily driver for 4 years and using clips lens on the camera and the picture quality was decent .. But I am amazed how the Mi A1 outperforms some of the over-priced same spec smartphones in its range.
I am sharing some of the shots taken from Mi A1 during my Nepal trip.
Disappointed, really,i came from mi5 to mi a1.i thought it'll be better since it has dual camera,new software,new features they claiming has better camera compared to oneplus 5 even iPhone 7,but still waaay better on mi5 even with lineage os which is known as downgrading the camera quality.
Front facing camera is the worst part,ironically i sell my mi5 to get this phone,damn!
subhoghatak said:
Hi evryone, I am coming from the Moto G2 XT1068 which was my daily driver for 4 years and using clips lens on the camera and the picture quality was decent .. But I am amazed how the Mi A1 outperforms some of the over-priced same spec smartphones in its range.
I am sharing some of the shots taken from Mi A1 during my Nepal trip.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, no. Those aren't photos taken on your Mi A1. A simple reverse-image search shows you ripped it off 500px - "Portrait of a Sadhu by Ashraful Arefin". I'm not allowed to post links but you can find it with a google search.
The photos were taken on a DSLR, over a year ago.
Just why?
This is actual footage of portrait mode but when taking photos instantly its quite often resulting blurry pictures
Another portrait mode,quite impressive but you need to hold the phone really steady
Blurry pictures when taking picture on moving object
Outdoor shots are pretty good and HDR does a good job without making the pictures look "cartoonish" which is sometimes the case. Once you take it indoors there's a rapid drop-off in quality, I find. Going out to dinner tonight and will try to make some shots in the restaurant to test.
Turning on portrait mode seems to zoom in on the object automatically, which is a bit strange. Anyone else have this?
Manual mode is a bit disappointing as the maximum exposure time is 1/60 second, which means if you want a usable low-light shot you still need to bump up the ISO quite a bit. Hope they can fix this in an update.
---------- Post added at 05:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:28 PM ----------
Just tried latest HTC camera from apkmirror (Sept. 28 version) and it shoots MUCH better pictures! Indoors pictures and selfies are MUCH sharper. You get nice depth-of-field shots even without portrait mode and it nicely focuses on items the Mi camera had trouble focusing on.
Camera works fully without root, just install the apk. I highly recommend you give this a try!
guitarsmurf2501 said:
Outdoor shots are pretty good and HDR does a good job without making the pictures look "cartoonish" which is sometimes the case. Once you take it indoors there's a rapid drop-off in quality, I find. Going out to dinner tonight and will try to make some shots in the restaurant to test.
Turning on portrait mode seems to zoom in on the object automatically, which is a bit strange. Anyone else have this?
Manual mode is a bit disappointing as the maximum exposure time is 1/60 second, which means if you want a usable low-light shot you still need to bump up the ISO quite a bit. Hope they can fix this in an update.
---------- Post added at 05:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:28 PM ----------
Just tried latest HTC camera from apkmirror (Sept. 28 version) and it shoots MUCH better pictures! Indoors pictures and selfies are MUCH sharper. You get nice depth-of-field shots even without portrait mode and it nicely focuses on items the Mi camera had trouble focusing on.
Camera works fully without root, just install the apk. I highly recommend you give this a try!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm trying htc camera on xiaomi Redmi notes 4 waiting for the Mi A1 to arrive but it does not work. I take the picture, but this is not saved in the gallery. Did you just download htc camera or even the gallery?
Inviato dal mio Redmi Note 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
Hi I have the note 9 and planning on upgrading to the xperia 1 couple of questions if someone can help
1, am I been crazy thinking of switching is it much of a upgrade
2, is the xperia 1 camera as good as the note 9
3, also is the display as good as the note 9
4, are the stereo speaker as good
Only asking as I haven't tried the xperia 1 but might order it tomorrow I've read there is a few bugs here and there but sony are normally quite good with there updates so can see them getting sorted
Seen alot of youtubers saying the camera isnt all that good and is the xperia 1 a upgrade from the xperia xz premium because I had that phone and loved it
Thanks
I did not own a Note 9 so i will not be able to make a comparison.
About the camera, I like it, but you could not like it like a lot of people. Photos are detailled but noisy. So it dépends if you prefer washed out but clean photo or the grainy feel of a raw photo (with some process still). The app have some limitation, like no HDR when you set the focus manualy. Low light photo are natural and "as you see", not like night mode of other brands that let you see in the dark like in bright daylight. You can do that with the sony too, but the old way, in manual with long exposure and a tripod.
One thing I'm disapointed with is the X2 lens. x2.5 or x3 would have been slightly more usefull, also you can't choose it in manual mode except by pinching to zoom at x2. And also, it's not used in low light condition.
But in overall I was impressed by this phone and kept it after trying P30Pro, Nokia 9 pureview, Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, for me photo are what I'm looking for on a phone, for me P30 is not better for photo (well, if you want a x6 it is of course) but different. I think Samsung is maybe more like the Chinese brand with more color pop and more post processed photo (it's not bad, it's different, I do not make a judgement here). Also, the note 10 is around the corner, maybe wait for the test of this one too.
Hildr said:
I did not own a Note 9 so i will not be able to make a comparison.
About the camera, I like it, but you could not like it like a lot of people. Photos are detailled but noisy. So it dépends if you prefer washed out but clean photo or the grainy feel of a raw photo (with some process still). The app have some limitation, like no HDR when you set the focus manualy. Low light photo are natural and "as you see", not like night mode of other brands that let you see in the dark like in bright daylight. You can do that with the sony too, but the old way, in manual with long exposure and a tripod.
One thing I'm disapointed with is the X2 lens. x2.5 or x3 would have been slightly more usefull, also you can't choose it in manual mode except by pinching to zoom at x2. And also, it's not used in low light condition.
But in overall I was impressed by this phone and kept it after trying P30Pro, Nokia 9 pureview, Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, for me photo are what I'm looking for on a phone, for me P30 is not better for photo (well, if you want a x6 it is of course) but different. I think Samsung is maybe more like the Chinese brand with more color pop and more post processed photo (it's not bad, it's different, I do not make a judgement here). Also, the note 10 is around the corner, maybe wait for the test of this one too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm assuming all the niggly bits with camera can be solved with updates as sony have a good track record with update fixes?
Amoled note 9 it is low end next to the Xperia 1.
Xperia 1 have BEST display market.
Xperia 1 speakers have excellent quality and sound quite loud.
the camera is also better and uses camera technology to track eyes and 10 fps
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
xzpremium1976 said:
Amoled note 9 it is low end next to the Xperia 1.
Xperia 1 have BEST display market.
Xperia 1 speakers have excellent quality and sound quite loud.
the camera is also better and uses camera technology to track eyes and 10 fps
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is the display that good compared to the note 9?
Been seeing mixed reviews on youtube about the display and camera
I mainly use my phone for watching YouTube ect
Taking the odd photo
And music
I dont really game ect on a phone
brockyneo said:
Is the display that good compared to the note 9?
Been seeing mixed reviews on youtube about the display and camera
I mainly use my phone for watching YouTube ect
Taking the odd photo
And music
I dont really game ect on a phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://m.ringhk.com/news2a.php?id=18649
Xperia 1 use Sony Bravia Master technology, best TV on the market
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
xzpremium1976 said:
http://m.ringhk.com/news2a.php?id=18649
Xperia 1 use Sony Bravia Master technology, best TV on the market
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks I'll take a look just everyone says the samsung displays are the best (displaymate)
my two cents - from Ex-Note user
1. Sound - Xperia Speaker is definitely more clear and has no distortion
2. Display - Both are good (No notch but both have bezel - In the race for all screen these two are not competing). Note 9 is definitely more brighter but the colors are just too much and over saturated, you can switch to the standard colour profile but still not accurate. Xperia is above average for brightness but the screen colour is just awesome and pleasing.
3. Camera - Both are not the best (But Note 9 has potential for GCAM mod, Xperia till date doesn't - Don't want to jinx it, but it may be a while before we get it either). The camera does have very accurate colors and the 21:9 video profile looks great on cinemapro. The camera basically comes down to your own taste as someone mentioned Samsung has very pleasing artificial colours, Xperia is more true to life and also has the super awesome AF for people photography. But note 9 has the variable aperture on its side
4. Battery again above average really depends on your usage, i do get a days worth battery when i am at work and less when travelling and using the display more (media consumption)
5. The LDAC and other codes are great when connecting to audio devices which use them (I am loving the WH1000MX3). Samsung i believe has only aptX and SBC (for most general Bluetooth cans).
6. S-Pen : something sony can never win, so if it was a part of your daily use, you will definitely miss it, i know i did when i moved from the Note 8 to a iPhone before the Xperia 1.
My colleague has a note 9. So could compare hardware, also i had the note 8, so the difference in usability is something i can comment on.
Hope this helps, overall both are great phones and the SD 845/Exynos and SD 855 - has marginal performance difference in real life use.
brockyneo said:
I'm assuming all the niggly bits with camera can be solved with updates as sony have a good track record with update fixes?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like for all phones, anything can be done with updates, the only thing to know is if it's treated as a problem or a feature. Mate 10 Pro I had was really heavy on post process and thus the photo were really not realistic at all. Some liked it, some didn't. There were no update to correct it, even if mate 9 and mate 20 were far better and lighter on the post process.
So it's Always difficult to know if the future will change anything when you don't like something. For example, the fact that hdr/IA is disabled when focus is set by touching the screen where we want, and the fact that you can't disable IA manually without using the touch to focus thing, I cant possibly think they did this without thinking about it. So, it's the result of whole design process that lead to this choice. It's then hard to think they will change the way the app work because they already thought about it. (Luckily since there is a two step photo command button, you can do like with a classic camera to do the focus where you want without touching the screen, but it's not "smartphone user" friendly). Ho, also you can't tap to focus if you enable capture when smile detected.
Well, this long text to say maybe they will change the way it works, maybe not, it's not what we can call a bug.
About the screen, it's nice. I can't say about the samsung's one. A lot of labo test and review seems to say the S10 phone have a slithly better screen. It's true that out of the box the white balance is off on the Xperia 1, but you can change it to your liking. From what I saw in some YouTube video, the smasung panels are less natural and more Poppy colors, but we can't know for sure how the settings are set on both phone. It's like comparing two tv on a mall without having access to the settings to properly calibrate them. My advice here is more to not take what you see on YouTube like the graal. The screen is good and can be well calibrated. Doing comparison between screen is Always difficult without proper Tools, so a normal user will not see a lot of difference f not comparing the two side by side, and even then, the difference can be due only to the settings.
In any case, the Xperia is nice with the WH-1000XM3 bundled for 999€. Only the phone, or the phone and the 60€ cover for this price is really too high without the 350€ headphone bundled in. What I mean here, is that this phone value is more around 700€ than 1000€. It's a great phone I will keep for 2 years or more, but not better than others for the 700€ mark, just different.
---------- Post added at 03:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:03 PM ----------
xzpremium1976 said:
http://m.ringhk.com/news2a.php?id=18649
Xperia 1 use Sony Bravia Master technology, best TV on the market
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The official sony website say (in the disclamer in the Bottom of the specification page):
Xperia 1 does not cover the BT.2020 colour space in full
8 bit display with 2 bit software smoothing
So any review/website that talk about this phone without mentionning it can't be taken that seriously. This one is more like an advertisement taking line by line the specification sheet of the phone.
brockyneo said:
Thanks I'll take a look just everyone says the samsung displays are the best (displaymate)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel.
This web is best
https://post76.hk/news/2019/06/sony-mobile-xperia-1-calman-test/
Samsung can not compete in quality neither on TV nor on mobile screens against Sony.
Xperia 1 use Rescue technology and converts sdr to hdr etc is technology of the Sony ag9 by af9 BEST TV market .
Samsung on TV makes QLED is a copy of Sony's triluminus and on phones does Amoled pentile poor in subpixels tecnology 8 bits sdr
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
Depend on if u have note maybe u should waited note 10.
xzpremium1976 said:
Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel.
This web is best
https://post76.hk/news/2019/06/sony-mobile-xperia-1-calman-test/
Samsung can not compete in quality neither on TV nor on mobile screens against Sony.
Xperia 1 use Rescue technology and converts sdr to hdr etc is technology of the Sony ag9 by af9 BEST TV market .
Samsung on TV makes QLED is a copy of Sony's triluminus and on phones does Amoled pentile poor in subpixels tecnology 8 bits sdr
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Phone has just turned up side by side to the note 9 looks nice but very dim unless I'm doing something wrong
xzpremium1976 said:
Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel.
This web is best
https://post76.hk/news/2019/06/sony-mobile-xperia-1-calman-test/
Samsung can not compete in quality neither on TV nor on mobile screens against Sony.
Xperia 1 use Rescue technology and converts sdr to hdr etc is technology of the Sony ag9 by af9 BEST TV market .
Samsung on TV makes QLED is a copy of Sony's triluminus and on phones does Amoled pentile poor in subpixels tecnology 8 bits sdr
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is the xperia 1 RGB or penitle?
Xz3 display already destroyed the note 9
https://youtu.be/xZjtj-eR8P0
I do not touch Samsung screens with the spen
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
xzpremium1976 said:
Xz3 display already destroyed the note 9
https://youtu.be/xZjtj-eR8P0
I do not touch Samsung screens with the spen
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So the xperia 1 display is rgb or penitle? And is the panel 10 bit ect
Thanks
xzpremium1976 said:
Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 Would be nice if they did smartphone screen test too.
---------- Post added at 04:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:08 PM ----------
brockyneo said:
So the xperia 1 display is rgb or penitle? And is the panel 10 bit ect
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I quoted the official specification before: not 10bit but 8+2. HDR but not all the BT2020 range.
I can try to find my microscope to look at the screen, because I can't find any review that show the pannel type.
Hildr said:
+1 Would be nice if they did smartphone screen test too.
---------- Post added at 04:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:08 PM ----------
I quoted the official specification before: not 10bit but 8+2. HDR but not all the BT2020 range.
I can try to find my microscope to look at the screen, because I can't find any review that show the pannel type.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah right cheers so the BT2020 isnt true? How can they advertise it has it?
Ya be great to see if its rgb or penitle
brockyneo said:
So the xperia 1 display is rgb or penitle? And is the panel 10 bit ect
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
RGB display 8 bits + 2
there are no phones with 10-bit display.
Xperia 1 is 10 bits for software
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
---------- Post added at 02:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:28 PM ----------
brockyneo said:
Ah right cheers so the BT2020 isnt true? How can they advertise it has it?
Ya be great to see if its rgb or penitle
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Next Xperia 5k display And 10 bits
Enviado desde mi G8141 mediante Tapatalk
brockyneo said:
Ah right cheers so the BT2020 isnt true? How can they advertise it has it?
Ya be great to see if its rgb or penitle
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From the link provided by @xzpremium1976 the pannel is 67.4% of BT.2020, 99.63% of DCI-P3 and 148.4% of BT.709. That's still pretty neat.
They advertise the ability to play files using this color gamut space I think. A classic SDR screen while just be grey-ish when playing a BT.2020 video (I it's what happen on my computer screen). And they still write down on their specification sheet that's it's not complete range reproduction. But well, untill not so long, screen didn't even reproduce all the RGB color range, and now you have a full DCI-P3 coverage.
Not related to the screen or camera. But I hightly recommend people considering this phone to try it. The 21/9 ratio phone is … unexpedly good in hand. I mean, I really had a hard time with the P30pro with its 19.5:9 ratio coming from a 18.5:9 ratio. But it was more about the curved edge (front and back). Plus a flat screen is less eye catching, but, for me, far better for content, since curved edge distort the image and create ray of light. It's the same with Samsung edge phone. Well, matter of taste here. But really, trying it is important here, I was bluffed, I never expected buying a Sony phone and was just trying it.
Hildr said:
From the link provided by @xzpremium1976 the pannel is 67.4% of BT.2020, 99.63% of DCI-P3 and 148.4% of BT.709. That's still pretty neat.
Not related to the screen or camera. But I hightly recommend people considering this phone to try it. The 21/9 ratio phone is … unexpedly good in hand. I mean, I really had a hard time with the P30pro with its 19.5:9 ratio coming from a 18.5:9 ratio. But it was more about the curved edge (front and back). Plus a flat screen is less eye catching, but, for me, far better for content, since curved edge distort the image and create ray of light. It's the same with Samsung edge phone. Well, matter of taste here. But really, trying it is important here, I was bluffed, I never expected buying a Sony phone and was just trying it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll have to have a play around more when I get back home creative mode in display setting makes the display quite dim when going to the other mode it brightens up
I'll try get a microscope and see if its rgb or penitle
I'm going to show the common strength and weaknesses of these two, and help you decide which is best for you.
So let's start with similarities :
- USB Type C 2.0
- OLED screen
- HDR10 compatible
- In-screen FP scanner
- Wide, ultrawide, and telephoto lens (48, 13, 8mp)
- Front and back glass design
- Same band compatibilities
- Widevine L1 (global)
- UFS 2.1 Storage
- NFC
- Google Pay
- Fast charge capable
- Bluetooth 5.0
etc. etc.
Now the differences (I'm going to try to make it as short as possible) :
Mi 9T - , Mi 9 SE -
1- 6.39" screen , 5.97" screen
2- Amoled screen , Samsung Amoled screen
3- 4000mah battery , 3070mah battery
4- Sony IMX582 sensor , Sony IMX586 sensor
5- 4K30 with EIS , 4K30 without EIS
6- 1080p up to 960fps , 1080p up to 120fps
7- f/2.2 front camera , f/2.0 front camera
8- Pop-up camera , Dot notch camera/display
9- No support for PD fast charging , Supports PD fast charging
10- Less sensors , More sensors
11- SD 730 , SD 712
12- 8nm processor , 10nm processor
13- 3.5mm jack , no 3.5 jack
Description :
1, 5, 8, 11, 13 are self-explanatory.
2. The Mi 9 SE has a better display than the Mi 9T. It's probably an in-house made Xiaomi amoled screen on the 9T. Therefore, the SE should have better colours and contrast.
3. Despite the 9T having a bigger battery, the SE seems to be able to keep up with the 9T in a few testings on Youtube, maybe the SE will average few hours less than the 9T. So the battery shouldn't be a huge deal, unless you're a heavy gamer go for the 9T.
4. From my research, the 582 can only be recorded up to 4K30, that's all I could fine. However, I've seen a few videos showing a slightly softer image in detail compared to the 586. This is more noticeable in low light, but different image processing could have a play in this scenario.
6. I have no idea why the 9T can record 960fps at 1080p. The SD 730 on Qualcomm's site states that it can record up to 120fps at 1080p and 240fps at 720p (no information about the SD 712). So I don't see why the SE wouldn't be able to record 1080p960.
7. In theory, the SE should produce better selfies than the 9T, especially at low light, but image processing plays a major role here.
9. It's hard for me to explain, just google it XD
10. The SE has more sensors than the 9T for navigation and whatnot. FYI, the SE has an IR blaster where the 9T lacks.
12. A lower nm process results in better performance and better battery life. So the 9T has a lower battery consumption than the SE.
Research is all done by me. Information that I've gathered are from the following sites :
mi.com/global (for spec comparison)
youtube.com (camera and image performance, battery performance)
qualcomm.com (processor specs)
google.com (for definitions and explanations)
Feel free to leave a comment if I miss anything, or leave your opinions!
Reserved
Hmm... I think you missed the main point of an Mi 9 SE owner:
0. SIZE: Mi 9T >> Mi 9 SE, which is the best relatively compact Android with best price/value ratio
1.-13. mostly similar
Winner is Mi 9 SE. If you prefer oven pans -> Mi 9T
mi9se more sexy and compact
Don't!
I've swapped my mi8 for mi9tpro two weeks ago, and man did I made a mistake:
- mi8 is much comfortable to hold in hand
- mi8 has unmistakable and fast as hell fingerprint reader (fpr), mi9tp has hit/miss and slow fpr.
- face unlock is unusable and slow on mi9tp, on mi 8 works i every light scenario and it is instant.
- battery life is similar on both devices (5-6H SOT)
- gcam works perfectly on mi8, on mi9tp it uses too high iso values and it crashes a lot
- speed is similar on both phones, but eu rom on mi8 is perfect and was much speedier for me then mi9tp
- only thing that i like on mi9tpro is video with ultrawide camera, but man, it is not worth the money.
Anyway sold mi9tpro, a buyer should pick it up this afternoon. Bought mint condition 128GB mi8, and saved 200E
Thanks for your opinions, surely it'll give an idea to users.
I was thinking of doing the same.Selling mi8 and buying mi9t pro or OnePlus 7.I m closer to OnePlus now.Thanks.
Can i ask how much have you bought mi8 128? (Used i believe).
Στάλθηκε από το MI 8 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
200€ used, mint condition, in Croatia.
My friend has op7p, it is too big and heavy for me, and curved screen is inconvenience.
CROrION said:
Don't!
I've swapped my mi8 for mi9tpro two weeks ago, and man did I made a mistake:
- mi8 is much comfortable to hold in hand
- mi8 has unmistakable and fast as hell fingerprint reader (fpr), mi9tp has hit/miss and slow fpr.
- face unlock is unusable and slow on mi9tp, on mi 8 works i every light scenario and it is instant.
- battery life is similar on both devices (5-6H SOT)
- gcam works perfectly on mi8, on mi9tp it uses too high iso values and it crashes a lot
- speed is similar on both phones, but eu rom on mi8 is perfect and was much speedier for me then mi9tp
- only thing that i like on mi9tpro is video with ultrawide camera, but man, it is not worth the money.
Anyway sold mi9tpro, a buyer should pick it up this afternoon. Bought mint condition 128GB mi8, and saved 200E
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, thanks for your input. I was about to sell mine for the same price here in BiH, but I was concerned about the size and handling...and I was counting on much better battery.
Maybe non pro model is better choise in therms of battery life...
CROrION said:
Don't!
I've swapped my mi8 for mi9tpro two weeks ago, and man did I made a mistake:
- mi8 is much comfortable to hold in hand
- mi8 has unmistakable and fast as hell fingerprint reader (fpr), mi9tp has hit/miss and slow fpr.
- face unlock is unusable and slow on mi9tp, on mi 8 works i every light scenario and it is instant.
- battery life is similar on both devices (5-6H SOT)
- gcam works perfectly on mi8, on mi9tp it uses too high iso values and it crashes a lot
- speed is similar on both phones, but eu rom on mi8 is perfect and was much speedier for me then mi9tp
- only thing that i like on mi9tpro is video with ultrawide camera, but man, it is not worth the money.
Anyway sold mi9tpro, a buyer should pick it up this afternoon. Bought mint condition 128GB mi8, and saved 200E
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
can completely agree your opinion, i had the same with a MI8 and the MI9, MI8 was a superior phone and as i switched to the mi9 there was a lot i was complaining about, ... especially the missing OIS in camera.
Mi8 with google cam is unbeatable so i can feel with you !
Good, to know that. Now i was think about , that i sell my MI8 256gb and i buy the MI9T PRO 128gb.So, i stay by MI8. Thx
If anyone needs a cheaper phone, or maybe wanting to a buy a phone to give as a gift.
I bought my 15 yr old daughter a Xiaomi A3 and I must say that I am really impressed with its speed, excellent camera, and overall beauty. Plus it comes with Android One, and she loves it. no doubt that it is perfect for a teenager, parent, wife or girlfriend and with its 665 processor its faster than I expected.
Finally the screen resolution may only be 720P. However the Amoled panels makes the lower PPI, hardly noticeable, and the colors are much better when comparing the A3 panel to 1080 LCD panels.
Remember 1 thing mi 9T pro its still new device that need some time to be stable of any rom also how they got same sot? Mi 9 t pro got 4k mah and snap 855 its kinda got reduced consumption of battery so maybe you dint try it much? I can agree about OIS at camera point.
Flash-User said:
can completely agree your opinion, i had the same with a MI8 and the MI9, MI8 was a superior phone and as i switched to the mi9 there was a lot i was complaining about, ... especially the missing OIS in camera.
Mi8 with google cam is unbeatable so i can feel with you !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you mean the camera on Mi8 is superior to Mi9?
I thought the closed loop motor without OIS is better than open loop motor with OIS
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/02/17/mi-9-closed-loop-motor-explained/
According to DxOMark," .....the Mi 9 is the best Xiaomi device we have tested so far".
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi-9-camera-review/
hkwildboy said:
Do you mean the camera on Mi8 is superior to Mi9?
I thought the closed loop motor without OIS is better than open loop motor with OIS
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/02/17/mi-9-closed-loop-motor-explained/
According to DxOMark," .....the Mi 9 is the best Xiaomi device we have tested so far".
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi-9-camera-review/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its a subject matter, but my opinion is the MI8 camera WITH OIS and google Cam is better than Mi9 camera without OIS.
I have a Mi8 (now my girlfriends phone) and had a Mi9 and have done a big comparison between both phones. My conclusion was to sell the Mi9 because the Mi8 does greater Images than the Mi9.
I think we both know how much value we should give to DxOMark ...
Its just a subject feeling for me and my opinion because of my personal comparison.
I've to say i got the Mi9 in the early days and i think xiaomi did a big improvement in topic software on this phone and also a camera improvement but just for me:
When comparing my Huawei P30 Pro images with my girlfriends Mi8 Images, i'm again and again blown away by the colors (gcam) and HDR+ on this phone.
My biggest disadvantage is the lack of a ultra wide angle lens in the Mi8, if it had this, i would sell my p30 pro and buy a Mi8 again
Gcam Apk
Flash-User said:
Its a subject matter, but my opinion is the MI8 camera WITH OIS and google Cam is better than Mi9 camera without OIS.
I have a Mi8 (now my girlfriends phone) and had a Mi9 and have done a big comparison between both phones. My conclusion was to sell the Mi9 because the Mi8 does greater Images than the Mi9.
I think we both know how much value we should give to DxOMark ...
Its just a subject feeling for me and my opinion because of my personal comparison.
I've to say i got the Mi9 in the early days and i think xiaomi did a big improvement in topic software on this phone and also a camera improvement but just for me:
When comparing my Huawei P30 Pro images with my girlfriends Mi8 Images, i'm again and again blown away by the colors (gcam) and HDR+ on this phone.
My biggest disadvantage is the lack of a ultra wide angle lens in the Mi8, if it had this, i would sell my p30 pro and buy a Mi8 again
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you specify which version/modder of Gcam you use on Mi8?
Thank you.
Flash-User said:
Its a subject matter, but my opinion is the MI8 camera WITH OIS and google Cam is better than Mi9 camera without OIS.
I have a Mi8 (now my girlfriends phone) and had a Mi9 and have done a big comparison between both phones. My conclusion was to sell the Mi9 because the Mi8 does greater Images than the Mi9.
I think we both know how much value we should give to DxOMark ...
Its just a subject feeling for me and my opinion because of my personal comparison.
I've to say i got the Mi9 in the early days and i think xiaomi did a big improvement in topic software on this phone and also a camera improvement but just for me:
When comparing my Huawei P30 Pro images with my girlfriends Mi8 Images, i'm again and again blown away by the colors (gcam) and HDR+ on this phone.
My biggest disadvantage is the lack of a ultra wide angle lens in the Mi8, if it had this, i would sell my p30 pro and buy a Mi8 again
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks so much for your comments.
I too have been using Mi8 for over a year, and am wondering if should upgrade to Mi9 or 9T Pro.
Now you pointed out there isn't much improvement, I think I'll hold on to it until the next model comes up.
Cheers.
hkwildboy said:
Thanks so much for your comments.
I too have been using Mi8 for over a year, and am wondering if should upgrade to Mi9 or 9T Pro.
Now you pointed out there isn't much improvement, I think I'll hold on to it until the next model comes up.
Cheers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, as i said, i had both phones and just for me the camera of the Mi8 was better. Even the fingerprintscanner on the Mi8 is insane instead of the Mi9's indisplay fingerprint reader.
By the way, my Mi9 unit had a big battery drain issue, this was the main reason beside the camera for sending them back. In fly mode everything was fine, but when enabling data the battery drains extremely fast i couldn't fix this issue.
As a Huawei P30 Pro owner i can say: if you've a Mi8 with google cam and do not need necessarily an ultra wide angle lens, play around with some gcam ports, find the right one and settings for you and you're lucky.
The phone does exiting images even compared with all Flagship smartphones on the market right NOW.
what about Mi9 Pro 5G version ?
Flash-User said:
Yes, as i said, i had both phones and just for me the camera of the Mi8 was better. Even the fingerprintscanner on the Mi8 is insane instead of the Mi9's indisplay fingerprint reader.
By the way, my Mi9 unit had a big battery drain issue, this was the main reason beside the camera for sending them back. In fly mode everything was fine, but when enabling data the battery drains extremely fast i couldn't fix this issue.
As a Huawei P30 Pro owner i can say: if you've a Mi8 with google cam and do not need necessarily an ultra wide angle lens, play around with some gcam ports, find the right one and settings for you and you're lucky.
The phone does exiting images even compared with all Flagship smartphones on the market right NOW.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
what gcam port do you use ? can you recommend on settings ?
cheehong93 said:
what about Mi9 Pro 5G version ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also want to know this! Because well, it's expected for the facial unlock to work worse than in the Mi8 because the Mi8 has a 3d face sensor and infrared light and all those dedicated hardware.. that's why the notch is so wide.
Hi guys. I've been looking at phones for a while. Cause I needed a new phone.
Mi A3 is my first priority. Mi A3 has a 48mp sony imx586 sensor on main camera.
Xiaomi mi9t has almost the same sensor too (imx582 (only difference is 4k fps rating) )
I examined and compared the camera of mi a3 and mi9t. and some other phones which has imx586 or imx582 sensor. I see an obvious difference quality. What could be the reason of this difference and can i do something for improve MI A3 camera quality as good as MI9T?
And there is an other difference too. Slow motion recording. Mia3 can record 240fps video at 720p and Mi9T can record 960fps video at 720p and 1080p. why this difference stems.
After all if I used wrong words for this thread I am sorry for my English.
Mi 9t front camera is awful.
586 and 582 are same sensors, 582 just has better videos features. As far as camera quality goes mi9t has sd 730 and mia3 has sd 665, there is a image processor in mobile soc's and the one on sd 730 is better, means it will process the images better. Although the main thing that differs in photos in colors and dynamic range which is highly controlled by software so as mi9t is expensive its software processing is better but better software processing can also be achieved on mi a3 by installing google camera, as of now we don't have any mia3 specific google cam but soon we will get it hopefully.
Simran62 said:
586 and 582 are same sensors, 582 just has better videos features. As far as camera quality goes mi9t has sd 730 and mia3 has sd 665, there is a image processor in mobile soc's and the one on sd 730 is better, means it will process the images better. Although the main thing that differs in photos in colors and dynamic range which is highly controlled by software so as mi9t is expensive its software processing is better but better software processing can also be achieved on mi a3 by installing google camera, as of now we don't have any mia3 specific google cam but soon we will get it hopefully.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
okay I get it. This is because of proccessor. Does this mean that google camera is more stable than stock camera as processing photos? Because result photos are better than stock camera.