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I've been thinking about getting a different phone but I like this phone so much, would the honor 7x be a good upgrade or any other ideas on another phone? Please comment. PS I'm a harcore multitasker lol
It’s a good move, if you don’t mind no nfc. Look for a good case though, regardless of the video of the ceo dropping it, to show how tough it is. You can get a idea of a good case company from looking at a CNET video droptest for the iPhone X
Yeah, that's been the kicker for the lower end Huawei/Honor phones...no NFC.
Are there any other good phones in the $300 range that's better than the 7x
I purchased a Note 9 when it was released and loved it but eventually caught the Huawei/Honor bug and ended up selling the Note 9. After I'm now looking for a phone to replace it and the only one that takes my fancy is the Mate 20 Pro.
My question is - Is it worth it? Is there a better Huawei/Honor phones that would be a better purchase at this point?
Thank you x
If you are able to wait until end of March, the new P30 pro is rumored to have a similar screen size but should have improved cameras.
Otherwise, the mate 20 pro is probably their best (or p20 pro if you want a smaller size which I'm guessing you don't).
I would only say that if you take a lot of selfies, you will probably be disappointed (fixed focus, post processing is meh) but otherwise, lots of flexibility with the cameras and I personally use nova launcher so I don't see their original Gui which is often a complaint.
Edit: you could also check the Mate 20 X. Bigger screen (7.2") and stylus support if that's your thing. Same cameras. Waterdrop type notch (no face id) and you lose a few extras like ip68.
I think it would be wise to wait at the moment. Not only have we got the P30 series soon but also the Galaxy 10 range later this month and they look like they might be quite good.
No why support a company that has turned its back on developers by not allowing unlocking the bootloader after allowing it for so long
Wait for s10 or p30.
i decided to ditch the mate 20 pro after a month. (poor battery life compared to p20 pro and regular mate 20) and the screen issues.
i went to for the bigger mate 20 x as a second phone (media games internet etc) cuz of its battery, screen, speakers, real FP scanner, no screen issues and the same cameras as the mate 20 pro.
waiting for the s10 plus to replace my note 9 as a primary phone
Thanks for all the replies. Personally don't care about bootloaders and I never root my phones anymore. But concerned about the amount of replies telling me not to go for it.
As I'm currently using a £250 mid-range Honor Play phone, I'm really wanting to upgrade asap and with the deals on new mate 20 pros at £600 floating around, I still may ignore advice and go for it! I guess I could always upgrade again in a few months time to the P30 or S10!
Thanks again for all the replies, I appreciate it.
Don't get me wrong. Personally, I think it's a great phone and if you're in the market for an upgrade and don't care about timing then go for it. I was merely saying that if you're after the latest and greatest then waiting a few extra weeks might be prudent.
I've not rooted a phone for ages, I don't think there's really the need so much now that Android has gotten so much better over the years, so that aspect doesn't worry me either.
Love the mate 20 Pro and that's coming from a note 9. Software not as refined as sammys with a few glitches but works well
I sold my P20 Pro and got the Mate 20 Pro .. much better. IMO I'd grab a M20P if you find one at a good price, the P30 Pro won't be cheap and I doubt the specs will over shadow the M20P, maybe better camera (slightly) and no notch .. not flagship selling points worth the higher price if compared to a discounted M20P.
My 2 cents ..
So the S10 quad (excluding the fold) has been launched, pre orders are being placed daily, has Samsung got the 10th Anniversary of the Galaxy right?
Ok ok we haven't got our hands on the device yet, this is all early assessment, however going by what you have seen, is it enough against what's been announced at MWC, and the upcoming?
The likes of the Mi 9 Pro is very compelling, and will be priced well, Mi Mix 3 5G, Sonys new range and LG G8, the OnePlus 7, Vivo,.
LG well they are hanging around but they are not a big influence, they are trying new things, but not nailing it. The new devices announced are more of the same, no flair, just stale, yet they are specced well.
The Mi 9 Pro, Mi Mix 3 5G, Vivo, OnePlus I see these as more of a threat and competition to Samsung.
However despite the likes of Vivo, Xiaomi offering up truly full screen displays. I funnily believe some are really curious about the punch hole despite it cutting out (pun intended) the display.
For me this year I found the S10 quad to be refreshing, ok admittedly yes they could have placed a 48mgp sensor , perhaps went with a pop up camera also. That said it was intentional the cutout is a way to make it fresh stand out, it's new tech, as is the ultrasonic sensor.
For me I think what Samsung did was/is clever and very much in keeping with trend, They sell premium flagships and this is no exemption, keeping that and enhancing it more but to a point where it's not the same as others, ok Huawei have it, but that's LCD and not AMOLED, they can now also sell this displays to others, clever.
I think all that was announced and the line up was for me just right, mind you I never expect everything, although Samsung gives us pretty much that.
What do you all think Vs what's been announced, is it enough? Or will OnePlus steal the thunder?
I think we'll know fairly early how it's going to shake out. You left out one maker for good reason and it's a shame. Motorola used to be a player and my goto phone for years. Now they're just a shell of what they once were and offer no serious competition. It's still one of the best for developers but that's about it.
I'm really curious what the other companies are going to come up with this year. Funny thing is I wasn't even planning on pre-ordering or purchasing a S10+, I was looking at phones last month and was going to get the OP6t. Then I decided I would wait for the OP7 since the first versions of the year usually are the most drastic changewise. I then went onto Samsungs website and seen they offered trade-in credit for the S10 lineup. Well I put in my LG G6 and was surprised they were offering me $300 for it.. I could wait for the OP7 that will most likely skip on wireless charging, headphone jack, and have the same optical fingerprint reader as the OP6t for around $650-750 which is what my budget is or I could get the S10+ with the buds for $742 out the door and have it sooner as well. I'm definitely not disappointed in my decision as I think the S10+ is definitely a huge upgrade from phones the past year and I think it has set the bar pretty high.. If it wasn't for their trade-in program I wouldn't have ordered one.
If the S10 is this it’s going to be scary what the note 10 will be...
Galaxy S10's for the win! ???
In the case of the S10e, AFAIK there is no other manufacturer offering a phone in such a compact form factor with anywhere near the quality of SOC, screen, RAM, storage, etc. There are many competitors for the S10 and the Plus, but the S10e seems to be a unique product.
Hi All
I bought a P20 Pro around October last year hoping I could make use of the 40MP camera for my latest hobby, microscope photography.
I really like Open Camera which works really well for the kind of thing I like to do. I've been very active on the Huawei forum at https://uk.community.huawei.com/ but have kind of given up trying to make the P20 Pro work in the way I want.
What I really wanted was 40MP RAW for 3rd Party apps and I've banged on for months now but got absolutely nowhere. During that time, I think I've got a bit of a feel for Huawei as a company.
If you have a suggestion, they say nice things like "hopefully it will be included in a future release". But there is no further feedback about any issue. I get the feel that what they want to do is innovate a new phone every 6 months but do no support.
If you check out the customer service reviews at TrustPilot:
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.huawei.com
You can see their rating is only 1 star with users saying they left 1 star 'cos you can leave 0 stars!
A few months ago they stopped offering bootloader unlock to "protect us". Well, don't you just love it when someone takes something away from you and tells you it's for your own good? Reminds me of being a child!
Do you know what OS I use on my computer? Well, any one I fancy! It's my hardware!
The above is all a pity because the hardware is excellent, but the software included not much so. For example, jpegs are over sharpened and there's no option to adjust this feature or turn it off.
The phone only allows RAW for it's own stock app. There's no feature in the stock app to save anywhere apart from Internal memory. I want to use the camera software on my LCD monitor, but through HDMI, the stock camera app doesn't rotate, so the image on the LCD is always portrait! I can fix this with Open Camera but there's no support for RAW which I need for heavy post processing.
This all might sound quite negative but I've enjoyed participating in the Forum and the nice administrators sent me a Joby tripod to review (which I kept) and a 10,000mah power bank to say thanks. The forum admins are very nice, but the one thing that does stick in my craw a little bit is to keep being chivvied along saying an update would be soon, but after a few months of hearing the same thing, you know it ain't never going to happen.
If they told me 3 months ago they have no intention of fixing the issues, I would have sold the P20 Pro and got something else, so a bit of a waste of time.
But any road up..... I spotted the Mi9 with a luvverly 48MP camera and started to read the specs and ask questions on this forum. It sounded quite good and I was in Spain last week so I bought one.
I'm still learning, but am astounded that the phone is so cheap and in many ways, better than any Huawei phone, even the P30 Pro particularly with benchmarks. The battery in the P20 Pro is 4000mah and the Mi9 only 3300mah so which is better? Well, according to gsmarena, the Mi9 lasts longer as the Huawei Kirin chipset runs so hot. Maybe the P20 Pro is better if you fancy a fried egg?
But the real game changer for me is, of course the ability to unlock the bootloader and then the availability of ROMs. I'm still learning, but Xiaomi seem to like feedback and are offering weekly dev builds. In the 4 months I've owned the P20 Pro, there have been a couple of security updates and a Pie update, but none of the features anyone has asked for. My latest update was the Feb. 1st security update which I got in March. Now it's almost April...
By contrast, Xiaomi release the source code of their ROMs on day 1 so developers love them! If you check out the activity on the P20 Pro XDA forum, it's much lower than the Mi9.
So as I say, it's all a bit new for me, but I have high hopes of getting a phone that does exactly what I want. Somewhere between the developers and Xiaomi lies the features I'm looking for.
All in all, a good move for me. I'll likely be putting my P20 Pro on eBay soon. Unlocked an rooted lol.
Sorry to drivel on.....
Cheers
Steve
The lack of activity on the P20 forum is more than obvious, nobody at XDA likes Huawei for what they did, and probably never will.
Yes it's a bit of a ghost town!
It did make me think that Huawei simply wanted to clear the developers out of their market but even the hardware support for ordinary users under warranty is appalling with customers being told their phone has water damage (on an IP67 rated phone!) and the customers saying it had never been near water. Phones coming back still broken and on and on.
I think despite their reputation for innovation, the lack of support will kill them in the future.
Well, roll on Wednesday for unlocky flashy flashy!
Keep Smilin'
Steve
Haha, Steve. You seem to be the cheerful one, I hope your happiness and cheerfulness stay with you. Just don't join any telegram groups and you'll be fine.
Yes better than yesterday lol
Why shouldn't I join a telegram group?
With all this upheaval, what do you think about grabbing one while they're going cheap, used and good condition?
Im aware of the circumstances and that Huawei banning bootloader unlocking makes the situation even worse. If we could find a way to unlock the bootloader by unofficial means, I'd be happy to pick one up if there's decent 3rd party developer support
Could this be an opportunity or just a waste of time and money for us?
I've just bought one for £520 and it's only a month old. I'm prepared to take the risk for such a good phone and hopefully this Trump crap will come to an end soon
I have one sealed here myself but debating if I should have opted for Mate 20 Pro instead for worthwhile savings
Things could possibly reverse back to normal, if the ban goes full on, it could come to a total of $11m lost of business for the states with the companies combine, plus other possible complications, even regardless of that, and full ban on huawei, existing devices are not effected going by what Google have said
I got one before the 'news'. No regrets, it's a great phone.
Yeah i'd say buy it or get the mate 20 pro it's a better deal.
It has a better screen also
Although i don't care for that myself
i have a p30 pro love the phone but i am thinking about getting rid of it becaues of the hole ban thing i buy my phone off line every year and just tread my old one in so just looking at it from a money aspect
It's still worth every cent of the original retail price, let alone the massive discounts you can find. Its the best phone of 2019, and I've tried them all...
I agree. I'm watching a few variants on ebay, mainly the VOG-L04 model. If prices continue to fall, I might end up with more than one.
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I got one before the 'news'. No regrets, it's a great phone.
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Ditto.
I just picked mine up about to days ago. And I paid premium price for it. I was looking for the best battery life, performance and camera. I'm not really a fan of Samsung. I have no complaints with this phone. Other then I have a defective figure print sensor.
Bought a new one about a week ago. Could not be much happier overall. I don't necessarily need Android Q. The phone is working fine as it is. However this might be the last Huawei I'll buy depending on what happens in the future. It's very unclear future for Huawei now. For current phones I don't care though. This phone has the hardware I need that no one else has.
No regrets for me too. I bought it after the news came out. P30 pro is already a futuristic device. Huawei can always use AOSP and we can use alternative for Google services
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I picked one up over the weekend, new. I'm not too bothered about the crap - it's a great phone, will get Q, will probably get security updates, and will definitely get Play store updates - that's good enough for me.
And it's a matter of time before either of the countries blink and things go back to normal
Well, I just picked one up brand new here in Canada. Coming from a Pixel 3xl. Don't regret it one bit. Nothing wrong with the pixel at all, but it fell short in a couple areas within the camera that the p30 pro delivers on. I don't really care about the situation happening, I believe it will get resolved.
I bought my P30 Pro before the ban for full price.
I love the fact that it has a best in class camera that's the most versatile in the industry, 2 day battery life, the fastest charging speeds and just its overall gorgeous design.
I have no regrets. I don't take politics seriously and think the news and media puts this in a scaremongering light as Google and various US-based companies wouldn't want to lose out on potential revenue and business.
Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
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Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
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Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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cardozclive said:
Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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I thought that the smartphone division was sold to a chinese Company , maybe was Lenovo and Motorola .. my bad!
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On the sidelines of the G20 summit in Osaka, Trump said “U.S. companies can sell their equipment to Huawei,” without going into detail. “We’re talking about equipment where there’s no great national security problem with it,” Trump continued. It’s not clear what this means for now, but it’s likely Huawei will be able to acquire basic components like Qualcomm processors and Google’s Android OS.
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