I am very disappointed because it's already the end of November and Android 10 hasn't arrived yet.
Dont make you life so tragic.
Cool !
Mi A1 and Mi A2 got their first major updates in mid/end of december, so probably Mi A3 will get in mid/end december too.
There are plenty of good ROMs based on Android 10 for our device, you can check they if you really wanna try Android 10 that much
What is the point of this post? What did I missed?
Really, I don't get it.
I was wondering about this with Mi A1 phone, but eventually I just learned to ignore/accept the fact that some people simply have unrealistic expectations based on some made up assumptions and then shout out loud their own frustration. It has probably something in common with popularity of low cost Xiaomi phones in "third world countries" (no offense). The best thing to do is to just let it slide and report topics which bring nothing good. On MI forum they're regularly deleted, hopefully XDA takes similar approach to useless topics.
Tbh, the phone is running wonderfully on Pie. This is the first time I'm not seeing any incentive to root / flash a custom rom. The big thing for me was Gcam, and Camera2API is already enabled on stock. Battery life is great too. I will not update to 10 right away, cuz there are ALWAYS issues. Just use your phone man, and enjoy what it offers.
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Hi all,
I am at a bit of a loss here. I am an avid Nexus user (see sig below) though i want to like the OnePlus 2 though i keep reading horror stories and concerns about throttling, charging and performance issues over time. It's like they made an awesome phone though failed with the software implementation.
I am hoping like a lot of issues on devices that the XDA community has addressed these problems with a nice Custom ROM..
Can people give me some honest feedback regarding their experiences? I have read a lot of reviews though its all using the Factory ROM. I want to know how good the device can be with a good community rom.
Please let me know thanks very much.
Buy a 6P or wait for the new nexus, really looking forward to get rid of my OPT.
oneplus2 far much better than 5X
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Buy a 6P or wait for the new nexus, really looking forward to get rid of my OPT.
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6P is too big and too expensive. Why don't you like it?
Between 5x and op2
Op2 any day.. Much better than 5x
Op2 FTW.
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6P is too big and too expensive. Why don't you like it?
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OTP I've had too many small and big problems and bugs, I mean, the phone is usable but doesn't live up to it's specs and hype, software is the worst part of all, and if you are already a nexus user you will find annoying to wait for new versions of Android, also if you're into custom roms you should always stick to nexus.
And de 5X is too expensive for it's built and specs.
I mean personally I would think of other options, the Nexbit Robin seems really nice, or you can wait for the new phones that are coming.
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OTP I've had too many small and big problems and bugs, I mean, the phone is usable but doesn't live up to it's specs and hype, software is the worst part of all, and if you are already a nexus user you will find annoying to wait for new versions of Android, also if you're into custom roms you should always stick to nexus.
And de 5X is too expensive for it's built and specs.
I mean personally I would think of other options, the Nexbit Robin seems really nice, or you can wait for the new phones that are coming.
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You cannot go wrong with a Nexus - I am a OP 1 and 2 user. Came from Nexus 5(which still works).
OP2 now has everything working Custom ROM's but there are still niggles, which do not hamper you daily use. Community support is almost at par with Nexus. Fingerprint scanner is a bit fickle, I am having mine RMA'ed right now.
On the other hand... 5x is way to expensive for the specs being offered.. You could wait for new lineup this summer.. OP3, Motorola etc..
Obviously opt unless you want to settle for a less specifications mobile device for a higher price.
OP2 has better everything except OTAs which can be fixed with cyanogenmod. I'd pick up the OP2 or wait for the next nexus line.
Op2 is an awesome phone, just flash the latest hydrogen os build on it and compare it with a 5x... Everything in op2 is better even the camera...
Nexus 5X price is a joke. I would buy a N5 for 150$ before N5X lol
I wouldnt buy a phone with 2gb of ram and snapdragon 808 in 2016 anyways
I am also very satisfied with my 2. It just works rocking solid. And it has the best fingerprint Sensor out there, i really love it! So fast and accurate if you set it up correct.
But if i were you, i would wait for the 3. It should be out in july, so its not that long. If you want a phone now, just get the 2
got them both.
op2 has better specs.
5x feels cheaper, cooler, charges faster, has lower memory, lower ram, single sim and has a smaller screen.
both last 4-5hrs sot on my daily usage
personally i have my OPT on sale and have considered getting the nexus 5X instead (been some price drops here in uk). mainly because the OPT software is horrible, heats up quick, sluggish performance on stock rom, even though custom roms significantly improve the device its still doesnt feel like a flagship, i.e. some lag and small bugs here and there. in comparison my dads redmi note 3 and sisters OPO feel faster and snappier in comparison and in my side by side usage there both are smoother while scrolling.
also another thing ... people go crazy about specs and wanting a phone with the best possible hardware but they are forgetting the main thing the user experience. The oneplus 2 is culprit of this as it has the best specs but software is horrible that you are forced to use a custom rom
5x if the price is cheaper depending on your available sources. OPT very prone to fingerprint sensor failure and the RMA process apparently has been a nightmare to those unlucky enough to need a replacement or even any kind of hardware technical support really.
Go with anything other than OPT i regret now buying opt instead of Moto X variants or Nexus variant.
There is little to no support from the company for updates and they dont even release source code in time.
XDA community is there true but still isnt on par with devices who has their source code released.
It's been posted but compare the two and see what ya come out with.. On paper the OP2 is the better phone. I'm glad I got mine. I was down to the Nexus 6 or OP2 and I'm glad I did.
I'm sure your gonna root the thing.. So CM and updates will flow... So yeah.. Get the OP2
And despite what you have been told.. Oxygen 3.0 is a damn nice ROM. I was a slim ROM freak and I'm satisfied and very happy with MM update.. Yeah it's beta but it's rock solid.
Hell.. I would get a OPO over the 5X
Wait for new device.
A lot of users thinks oneplus2 is failed in China, me too.
Wish Oneplus3 will be better.
I am still with my OPT just because of the ability to use two SIM cards. That's just way more practical for combining work+private SIM. Atleast I prefer it over having to take two phones with me.
So if it wasn't for that, I would still be using my Nexus 5X, since there's just way better software support.
I hope the OnePlus 3 will change that.
hey everyone so i'm clearly enjoying me Redmi 5 but when compared to the other redmi phones or even xiaomi phones overall, it's getting very little attention, like only a few roms and all are nougat roms while others like even the redmi 4 already got an android P rom even though our device is newer and actually better in overall performance, so i think we really should make the forum more lively if we want more interest and roms to come this way
What ideas could you guys have to make our phone a bit more popular? comment below please
Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
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well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
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I think a lot of people who interested in purchasing this phone end up buying the redmi 5 plus model as the price increase is quite low by comparison based on my country market. Anyways, I do agree with having a 3gb ram and a 18x9 display with the range of price given by the market is quite good. TLDR, I think the Redmi 5 Plus does overshadow the redmi 5 model,thus causing low number of custom roms development.
Slightly offtopic. In my country there is a bigger price difference between the Redmi 5 and 5 plus in most mainstream online stores, and I've been able to get my mother a Redmi 5 2/16 gb for literally 107 dollars converted and adjusted for vat! Dirt cheap. In comparison my oneplus 3 costed 500 dollars 2 years ago.
I am able to run Blokada no-root adblocker on the Redmi 5 if I turn off battery optimizations and turn on "keep alive". That's all we need from a cheaper phone isn't it? MIUI gets kinda regular updates and recent security patches, and is an overall solid and lightweight ROM. Not a lot of bloat unlike other cheaper phones.
I'm not even expecting much custom rom's when Xiaomi provides such good support for their phones
The new Rom packaging has screwed a lot of developers. The Market range is far to High to obtain any User investigating for Development.
This device has a neat Stock Experience. The optimisations decreased highly with any Update of the Android version. The Graveyard of Technology is high, with all the cluttering, Invention of Removal of Bloatware, Security Improvements and alternatives of existing Modifications, Hardware that went in and out it was like launching a Rocket. Much will be missed..
In common, Developers go there where is the most of Sources provided. Mainly Google. Hardware manufacturers who change poorly their Hardware providers are favourites, like Samsung.
The Application security is Poor. So, here in the End developers meet Apple as their Dead End.
Hi All
I bought a P20 Pro around October last year hoping I could make use of the 40MP camera for my latest hobby, microscope photography.
I really like Open Camera which works really well for the kind of thing I like to do. I've been very active on the Huawei forum at https://uk.community.huawei.com/ but have kind of given up trying to make the P20 Pro work in the way I want.
What I really wanted was 40MP RAW for 3rd Party apps and I've banged on for months now but got absolutely nowhere. During that time, I think I've got a bit of a feel for Huawei as a company.
If you have a suggestion, they say nice things like "hopefully it will be included in a future release". But there is no further feedback about any issue. I get the feel that what they want to do is innovate a new phone every 6 months but do no support.
If you check out the customer service reviews at TrustPilot:
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.huawei.com
You can see their rating is only 1 star with users saying they left 1 star 'cos you can leave 0 stars!
A few months ago they stopped offering bootloader unlock to "protect us". Well, don't you just love it when someone takes something away from you and tells you it's for your own good? Reminds me of being a child!
Do you know what OS I use on my computer? Well, any one I fancy! It's my hardware!
The above is all a pity because the hardware is excellent, but the software included not much so. For example, jpegs are over sharpened and there's no option to adjust this feature or turn it off.
The phone only allows RAW for it's own stock app. There's no feature in the stock app to save anywhere apart from Internal memory. I want to use the camera software on my LCD monitor, but through HDMI, the stock camera app doesn't rotate, so the image on the LCD is always portrait! I can fix this with Open Camera but there's no support for RAW which I need for heavy post processing.
This all might sound quite negative but I've enjoyed participating in the Forum and the nice administrators sent me a Joby tripod to review (which I kept) and a 10,000mah power bank to say thanks. The forum admins are very nice, but the one thing that does stick in my craw a little bit is to keep being chivvied along saying an update would be soon, but after a few months of hearing the same thing, you know it ain't never going to happen.
If they told me 3 months ago they have no intention of fixing the issues, I would have sold the P20 Pro and got something else, so a bit of a waste of time.
But any road up..... I spotted the Mi9 with a luvverly 48MP camera and started to read the specs and ask questions on this forum. It sounded quite good and I was in Spain last week so I bought one.
I'm still learning, but am astounded that the phone is so cheap and in many ways, better than any Huawei phone, even the P30 Pro particularly with benchmarks. The battery in the P20 Pro is 4000mah and the Mi9 only 3300mah so which is better? Well, according to gsmarena, the Mi9 lasts longer as the Huawei Kirin chipset runs so hot. Maybe the P20 Pro is better if you fancy a fried egg?
But the real game changer for me is, of course the ability to unlock the bootloader and then the availability of ROMs. I'm still learning, but Xiaomi seem to like feedback and are offering weekly dev builds. In the 4 months I've owned the P20 Pro, there have been a couple of security updates and a Pie update, but none of the features anyone has asked for. My latest update was the Feb. 1st security update which I got in March. Now it's almost April...
By contrast, Xiaomi release the source code of their ROMs on day 1 so developers love them! If you check out the activity on the P20 Pro XDA forum, it's much lower than the Mi9.
So as I say, it's all a bit new for me, but I have high hopes of getting a phone that does exactly what I want. Somewhere between the developers and Xiaomi lies the features I'm looking for.
All in all, a good move for me. I'll likely be putting my P20 Pro on eBay soon. Unlocked an rooted lol.
Sorry to drivel on.....
Cheers
Steve
The lack of activity on the P20 forum is more than obvious, nobody at XDA likes Huawei for what they did, and probably never will.
Yes it's a bit of a ghost town!
It did make me think that Huawei simply wanted to clear the developers out of their market but even the hardware support for ordinary users under warranty is appalling with customers being told their phone has water damage (on an IP67 rated phone!) and the customers saying it had never been near water. Phones coming back still broken and on and on.
I think despite their reputation for innovation, the lack of support will kill them in the future.
Well, roll on Wednesday for unlocky flashy flashy!
Keep Smilin'
Steve
Haha, Steve. You seem to be the cheerful one, I hope your happiness and cheerfulness stay with you. Just don't join any telegram groups and you'll be fine.
Yes better than yesterday lol
Why shouldn't I join a telegram group?
Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
just boughtit earlier today, worth it imo unless you have access to k20 pro. In my country K20 Pro and k20 considered illegal(need to check the official mi website, if its there based on your country,its legal. in my case there is no K20 and k20 pro in my country) so i can't buy it (i do can buy but it will have imei problem and the device can't be used anymore after 14 days)
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Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
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Don't know what country you are from bro, but here's my take.
The Poco is still an amazing phone that holds up to this date. It has the latest Q software and current MIUI 11, which should be updated to MIUI 12 this year. This is a company that took care of the original buyers (since Poco originally under xiaomi) by providing updates up to this day. Sure it's not perfect, but what device and manufacturer is. But note that this may be the last update we are going to get. This is almost a 2 year old phone, and as you know most manufacturers don't even provide a 3rd major update (this was an exception). Don't fret though as this is a phone that a lot of enthusiasts have and a lot are still making ROMS for this phone, so even if we may not get an update beyond this year, we may still get some from the devs here.
Another point to take is that this phone is still a beast. Forget those guys who claims their phones slow down etc, most of them rely on benchmarks which is not always the way to see whether a phone is bad or not. Based on personal experiences, I've rarely experienced any lags on this phone and neither had any touch issues. Btw, I've unlocked the phone and rooted, but aside from substratum and lucky patcher for some games, I've seldom made any other changes on it (of course providing root access to greenify and sd cleaner, but nothing major like adding xposed and such). This may be why I've never had such issues because as you know if you have altered the phone a lot, complications may arise if you update.
So like i said, this phone holds up. I play NBA2K20, Asphalt, Pubg and other mobile intensive games and rarely experienced any major issues. The sd845 holds up.
As for cams, that may be the weakest point of this phone. I mean for the price it is great. It provides a solid enough cam experience that you can use it to capture good photos for insta and fb. But it won't blow you away. The front cam is great. The IR Cam is so useful in any situation to unlock the phone whether it's on your desk, even in the dark.
Battery life holds up nicely. Sure it doesn't give me a long life like before, but during intense gaming of about 3 hours, I still have about 25 to 30 percent left. The charging is good too. It's not as blazing fast as most phones today, but should suffice.
That said. Here's a major talking point. The phone is old, it shows in the cam and possibly no further major update (aside from maybe security patches), but you can rely on xda devs to provide support still. But if you can get your hands on a K20 Pro or K30 Pro, then get your hands on them. Not only will you get either last year's phone with about a year or two more of updates, but updated specs, or the current redmi flagship killer with about 2 years to 3 (if they follow the current poco trend) but you'd have a future proof phone as it has 5G and a more versatile cam array with the latest processor.
This depends on your budget too. If you're looking for a lower price than the last year redmi or current, then I'd go with the Poco than latest midrangers due to the power of the SD845, I'm not a cam user much anyway. But if you need a better cam and not much into power then the current midrangers can offer that for you and I'm not disparaging midrangers, the current processors are powerful, but not yet to the power of the sd845 despite it being a 2 to 3 year old processor
Just got it this week, working great! I had less budget and great expectations!!
So got myself a 8gb armored edition!
I am not big fan of taking selfies and pics.
Poco f1 has got update to Android 10. The snap 845 is still being used by some premium phones.
I've got a Pixel 6 pre-ordered, using it as my main phone since launch. My experience with random bugs, but especially frustrating Bluetooth devices randomly disappearing or being forgotten, random Bluetooth disconnections and so on have frustrated me beyond belief!
I stopped using Samsung phones back in the Note 2 era as Samsung when on a tangent and lost their marbles, and before my Pixel 6 I was using a Xiaomi Mi 11, which was an excellent hardware, but I could not get on with their buggy mess and poorly implemented dark mode forcing apps and making buttons disappear as consequence. Never again...
Now the Pixel 6 is making me feel the same way, a frustrating half-baked phone which was meant to be exactly the opposite, it should be the flagship Google phone with the latest and most polished software, not this mess.
So I'm considering perhaps moving to a Samsung flagship, but I've no idea if their software will be any better. I'm definitely not going for the Chinese brands anymore, Oneplus lost its way, Xiaomi is a proper mess, Realme and others also not worth considering. Ah, I evne forgot to mention I had an Asus ROG phone once, excellent phone but very slow update cycles, another disappointment.
So what is left for me to try? A Samsung flagship that promises 4 years of updates? The reality is that I'll keep the phone for 2 or 3 years max anyway, but nice that samsnung is finally focusing on providing updates more quickly. Or, go back to an iPhone and forget all this mess, but I'm way more keen on keeping an Android phone due to its flexibility.
Any thoughts guys?
i know how ya feel mephisto.. it was either a samsung A53 or pixel 6a for my budget and the 6a came in £100 cheaper ( argos offer ) so far i have 2 issues . first of all the battery life reminds me of my old galaxy s5 .. lucky to last a full day and I'm not a heavy user either . I've read it settles down after a while once it gets to know your usage patterns , then again I've never really seen that happen in previous phones . And secondly the camera .. yes its good but the jpg compression is way too heavy . I've installed and tuned up bigkakas 8.4 gcam mod and it's pulling out a lot more fine detail than stock . they should give users more options as far as the camera goes.
anyway it still blows the redmi note 11 out of the water so i suppose i shouldn't complain .. but i do
I wonder if I'm alone feeling this disappointed and if there are any good alternatives
It is a result of market expectations (imho). The number of people interested in customizing and tweaking their device is too small to get the attention of the manufacturers. They will target their preferred (ie easiest) audience, and whoever isn't in that audience will have to deal with the results.
i am hugely disappointed in my s6. battery life is poor at best uses 1.5% an hour if i don't touch the device. ( my other 3 phones only use 0.3% an hour, same sim , same service, same place). battery use while on at 5-6% is pretty good.there have been bugs since day one. the camera was advertised as 50mp but software makes it 12mp, that was annoying. and developer support on xda is just ok.
i should have bought the last pixel5