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My garmins have a 1hz update which = 1 second updates to the heart rate even when not in a workout.
My fitbits do 5 second updates.
The amazfit Stratos I have does 1 minute updates when not in a workout. This is too slow of an update interval.
I know the battery would be reduced but I don't care about that. Is it possible in a rom? Or any other way?
What do you want/need the data for? You can start Elliptical, it will record the HR as any other activity and you will have the HR graph.
Yes I know you can start an activity. That's not the point. A lot of watch faces show heart rate so why not have the watch face always up to date with the correct heart rate?
If I get up and walk down the hall at work, I shouldn't see a heart rate of 55, my other trackers have no problem having more frequent updates and they show my heart rate elevated if I get up and move around. Heck even the Garmin battery lasts 2 weeks without a charge at 1 second updates.
I can't be the only user that wants to see the heart rate in real time. If that's the case then they probably haven't tried other devices yet.
The continuous HR as is already cuts the battery by about a third of the average. An update of 1 sec would also degrade this. Now, the larger battery drain would be the screen updating every second with this HR data. Try a watchface with a second hand. It obliterates the battery.
The garmin and fitbit UI's are more refined and battery conservative. Not to mention garmin will last much longer without continuous HR. I doubt this will make it to amazfit software.
I bought this watch thinking it's an all day tracker and I'm not quite sure it's working properly, for example if I've done nothing but lounge around all day my fitbit will still show the proper calculated at rest burned cals in the display, let's say 100 an hour so after 8 hours of relative inactivity or sleep it will still display a calorie burned number of 800 or so, however wearing the stratos after that same amount of time the displayed calories burned is only 10 calories... for 8 hours? That doesnt seem right. Can you please explain what might be wrong?
The watch working more or less fine (doesn't calculate accurate steps for me) only calories you'll see from yours steps..not per hour (day calories if you don't do anything and still you burning some)
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Man this is a bummer, thought this thing was gunna be more or less like mah old fitbit as far as calorie tracking.
Hi guys,
Did anyone update this new rom version 2.3.6.0 ?
I got this message when I use my android phone app.
Regards.
fat100 said:
Hi guys,
Did anyone update this new rom version 2.3.6.0 ?
I got this message when I use my android phone app.
Regards.
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Yes - I have installed the new version since yesterday. Steps are now counted immediately - the pedometer algorithm has been improved and a new function has been implemented: navigate back to the (stored) starting point. I could not test this, though. Italian and French are now supported.
fat100 said:
Hi guys,
Did anyone update this new rom version 2.3.6.0 ?
I got this message when I use my android phone app.
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I did install it too yesterday. Long story short my watch now lits up screen when i put my hand down (not up, like there is an option but like you normaly walk with your hands down).. draining all battery over one night shift. this wasn't a thing before an update.
Hello, I updated new ROM 2.3.6.0. and in last 13h I have left battery 56% (from 100%).
I have installed it when it appeared. No issues so far.
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I have installed it when it appeared. No issues so far.
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+1. No issues for me too!
I've installed it today.
Seems that floor climbed is more precise. But heart-rate is more higher. I didn't know if it works precisely.
I continue to check....
AndriusX said:
Hello, I updated new ROM 2.3.6.0. and in last 13h I have left battery 56% (from 100%).
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I switched continuous hart rate monitor off ... battery draining stopped. Now 17h usage and 51% left ... so in last 4h only 4 - 5%
Update completely breaks HR monitoring - it's consistently showing unrealistic values like 220 bpm for a bike ride in the park?!?
Existing bug with excessive battery drain when using an external HR monitor NOT fixed.
Very disappointed with the software of the watch.
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Update completely breaks HR monitoring - it's consistently showing unrealistic values like 220 bpm for a bike ride in the park?!?
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Yes, my walk exercice yesterday : Stratos HRM between 120-157 bmp and Garmin VA3 80-90 bpm....
So with this new ROM, daily steps are right now but it is the HRM wich is totally wrong... so what happen in the next ROM ? HRM OK and Time not working ?
dersie said:
Yes, my walk exercice yesterday : Stratos HRM between 120-157 bmp and Garmin VA3 80-90 bpm....
So with this new ROM, daily steps are right now but it is the HRM wich is totally wrong... so what happen in the next ROM ? HRM OK and Time not working ?
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It seems to me that HR values are bigger, TE also.
Maybe the counting algorithm has been changed.
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Yes, my walk exercice yesterday : Stratos HRM between 120-157 bmp and Garmin VA3 80-90 bpm....
So with this new ROM, daily steps are right now but it is the HRM wich is totally wrong... so what happen in the next ROM ? HRM OK and Time not working ?
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I tested HR in GYM (GRIP) ... after all comments I was surprised that it was more close to reality then before. Average HR 130 and Max 171 on cardio. Similar data I had on Gear S3. Before my max HR was only 140 on cardio and average 110 - 115. As there is no GYM mode I am using Elliptical Trainer
So only problem I see is with continuous HR.
Updated to 2.3.6.0, three days ago. My initial findings:
- HRM seems to be high, at times. On a hike, while descending (HR low), it constantly showed above 150 bpm and up to 180 bpm for about 1/2 hour.
- While swimming, it adds steps. That's something I had noted with previous ROM versions, which was corrected in 2.3.5.0. Now, it's back again. For example, today, entering the pool, steps count was 2700. After a 1600 meter pool swim, the steps count had raised to 5120!!! That's amazing!
It remains to check other features...
i updated this new rom version 2.3.6.0 few days ago and the Heart Rate is more higher than the 2.3.5.0 version (210 bpm !!!!) my highest bpm was 168bpm
Is it possible to dowload the 2.3.5.0 version ?
Cannot measure the heart rate after the update
I just updated and the first bug I noticed is that I cannot measure the heart rate anymore. I always get this error:
"Couldn't measure
Wear the watch above the wrist."
But the watch it is one finger above the wrist, as it should be...
dersie said:
Yes, my walk exercice yesterday : Stratos HRM between 120-157 bmp and Garmin VA3 80-90 bpm....
So with this new ROM, daily steps are right now but it is the HRM wich is totally wrong... so what happen in the next ROM ? HRM OK and Time not working ?
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Today, my running workout TE result was really disappointed. The value went up as usual but it came back to its previous value in 5 minutes.
Its the first time I feel regretable about this watch which has a smart design that I like very much.
The software is unstable, now I was lost about all of my workouts.
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It seems to me that HR values are bigger, TE also.
Maybe the counting algorithm has been changed.
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I noticed GPS signal got improved? Is that just me?
AndriusX said:
I tested HR in GYM (GRIP) ... after all comments I was surprised that it was more close to reality then before. Average HR 130 and Max 171 on cardio. Similar data I had on Gear S3. Before my max HR was only 140 on cardio and average 110 - 115. As there is no GYM mode I am using Elliptical Trainer
So only problem I see is with continuous HR.
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Yesterday I walked with my dog and looks that GYM mode (with Elliptical Trainer) is OK but walking mode is disaster. After 15 min walk I had 160 HR
I tried run mode for walking ... it was better .. around 115 bps ... still I think too much ... as when I finished my walk I tested my HR manually with watch ... it was only 70 bps
Need to tray all sport modes
fat100 said:
Today, my running workout TE result was really disappointed. The value went up as usual but it came back to its previous value in 5 minutes.
Its the first time I feel regretable about this watch which has a smart design that I like very much.
The software is unstable, now I was lost about all of my workouts.
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Sorry I made a mistake. It is the Training Load value, not TE.
Today after 10 hours after my last workout, the value increases while I am at home. Strange!!!
With this version I get no more than 3 days battery. Continuous HR on and some notifications (less than 20 per day). Same config with 2.3.5.0 lasted almost a week ((((
Hi
There is an ongoing thread about the new 2.3.7.0 Stratos firmware and whether its OK to update.
Can I ask if anyone who has updated has found that Continuous heart rate monitoring is now broken - symptoms are that resting heart rate is reported as '--', there are gaps in the data, and when you look at the back of the watch the heart rate LEDs only work in brief burst of about 10 seconds, the go off for a minute or two (completely different to continuous previous 2.3.5.0 behaviour)
Hopefully the images from the Amazfit app show the issue better than I can say in writing..
Heart rate images from 10th December (2.3.5.0) and 13th December (after update to 2.3.7.0) are in the attachements below this post.
Hmm, as I explained you in another thread. I'm pretty sure that continuous HRM is not really continuous. Just checked again and the LED on my Stratos is off right now even continuous hrm is on.
However, your graphs clearly show that in the latest release, continuous HRM is even less continuous. Definitely has unusual gaps.
With the oldest FW, mine looks like the first one you've posted.
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Just double checked. After zooming, my continuous HRM looks like second one you've posted! Also has gaps. However, watch and the app are showing resting, min, max, average HR. For resting takes some time to show up, at least a day. And you did factory reset...
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1. Known bug: currently Pace/Stratos do not record reading bellow a minimum value (I think it's 47bpm), Huami is already aware of this;
2. Obviously, continuous doesn't mean it measures heartbeat every second, first it needs about 15s to get just one reading, and then keeping the sensor on all the time would kill battery. IRIIC it reads every 1 or 2 minutes;
3. No resting rate: first check that your profile is correctly filled, then you must use the watch at night, while sleeping. If both are OK then you need to factory reset: first try with restoring old data (it usually doesn't fix anything), then without restoring old data after pairing again.
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2. Obviously, continuous doesn't mean it measures heartbeat every second, first it needs about 15s to get just one reading, and then keeping the sensor on all the time would kill battery. IRIIC it reads every 1 or 2 minutes;
3. No resting rate: first check that your profile is correctly filled, then you must use the watch at night, while sleeping. If both are OK then you need to factory reset: first try with restoring old data (it usually doesn't fix anything), then without restoring old data after pairing again.
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You are incorrect about a 47 BPM bug, I see min 43 BPM on December 14th, Min 43 BPM on December 15th, and Min 42 BPM today as I write this post. I saw readings below 47 before with 2.3.5.0. Maybe this broke in 2.3.6.0 / 1 which I did not use?
Secondly, continuous HR with 2.3.5.0 meant LEDs flashing on all the time. Almost every video I have seen on Youtube with Stratos reviews show LEDs on back always flashing.
This is how things always worked since September with 2.3.5.0 and it did not kill battery, only 2% overnight, or 5% during the day if no GPS or Bluetooth battery. It was always VERY accurate too, resting always match my Wahoo Tickr within 1 or 2 beats as you can see from Wahoo Tickr screenshot vs December 10th screenshot in 1st post with 2.3.5.0
See this Youtube video - everytime he turns over the watch, LEDs are always flashing and I can see from this setting he used Continuous HR to on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsxKihwRNV4
In my view always on LED the correct behavior and exactly as Fitbit Surge or Garmin Fenix 5 Plus which also have 24/7 LEDs in continuous mode. As a general point, Fitbit Surge and Garmin Fenix offer 5 to 7 day battery with proper continuous HR and Stratos with 2.3.5.0 also did this fine.
I've spent the last 3 days resetting / rebooting / repairing and this simply is not a fix - sorry! 2.3.7.0 is broken, at least on my watch and cannot be fixed my end. See HR track from yesterday (15th December)
As a very experienced user of this device with over 660 miles logged, I know how it worked since September 2018 with 2.3.5.0 and how it doesn't work now - this isn't something I am doing wrong.....
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As a very experienced user of this device with over 660 miles logged, I know how it worked since September 2018 with 2.3.5.0 and how it doesn't work now - this isn't something I am doing wrong.....
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Sorry, but there is not much to be "very experienced" about. Regardless how many miles you have logged so far. With that logic I'm about double experienced than you
Anyway, I agree that they're messing up with FW, fixing one bug, making two more. Instead of wasting your energy here on xda forum to prove us something, turn to Amazfit instead. Open the ticket and prove to them. It's good for all of us. Actually, all of us should open the ticket for every bug, every problem we find.
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Sorry, but there is not much to be "very experienced" about. Regardless how many miles you have logged so far. With that logic I'm about double experienced than you
Anyway, I agree that they're messing up with FW, fixing one bug, making two more. Instead of wasting your energy here on xda forum to prove us something, turn to Amazfit instead. Open the ticket and prove to them. It's good for all of us. Actually, all of us should open the ticket for every bug, every problem we find.
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The reason I put my usage is that it's a bit frustrating people saying reboot or repair - this is really like a IT support cliche telling you to turn it on and off again! I know how this works and its just wasting time with a firmware defect.
I have reported all the bugs I have found in Stratos since September, including uploading log reports from the phone directly from WIFI, filling reports with Amazfit and have had no response ever from them. Just an auto-reply - never any human follow up.
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I have reported all the bugs I have found in Stratos since September, including uploading log reports from the phone directly from WIFI, filling reports with Amazfit and have had no response ever from them. Just an auto-reply - never any human follow up.
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That's odd. I have couple of threads with them (more than 10 ). Sometimes they are not very responsive but in couple of days, they usually answer. Of course, first couple of answers are generic but if you are persistent you may get trough even to the dev team.
You are using link below, right?
https://support.amazfit.com/hc/en-us
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That's odd. I have couple of threads with them (more than 10 ). Sometimes they are not very responsive but in couple of days, they usually answer. Of course, first couple of answers are generic but if you are persistent you may get trough even to the dev team.
You are using link below, right?
https://support.amazfit.com/hc/en-us
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Hi, yes that is link - this is what I get back - always this, nothing more...
Dear cumbrianrunner
Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response confirming the receipt of your request, and it is being reviewed by our support team.
Please note, Amazfit Support is available Monday through Friday, 9:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. PT. All support inquiries submitted outside of normal operating hours will require additional time for a response.
I think that link may be for people in the USA only - I am in England, and one of the questions they ask is about sales channels. I suspect non-US reponses to sales channel questions get filed in the bin too be honest
Well, try with US channel then
For me continues heart rate is working on 2.3.7.0. The lights should flash every minute for around 10s. It is measuring in one minute intervals except during activities. On Apple or Suunto continues means 10 minutes. On Garmin each second. What I recognized is that my resting HR is now relatively higher than before. But now it is winter and I am doing much less cardio training than in summer. So it could be true. Resting HR still recognizes resting days, hard workouts, illness or drinking alcohol correctly.
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I may do that
Well I have another bug - I am about to go out for a run, my usual stretching exercises puts my HR at about 60-65 BPM. Stratos with 2.3.7.0 is going nuts with continuous readings - spiking at 105 BPM, drop back to 78 BPM is next read cycle, then back to 96 BPM on other cycle.
Wahoo Tickr and Fitbit Surge have me around 60-65 BPM which is correct.
I could report this, but I suspect this would go into the 'too hard to fix' bin...! But will try pretending I am in the USA today
I can't say much about the stratos continuous heartbeat, but my Pace (FW 2.8.1.0) regularly shows a rate of 180 - 200 when I easily can make a conversation....
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You are incorrect about a 47 BPM bug, I see min 43 BPM on December 14th, Min 43 BPM on December 15th, and Min 42 BPM today as I write this post. I saw readings below 47 before with 2.3.5.0. Maybe this broke in 2.3.6.0 / 1 which I did not use?
Secondly, continuous HR with 2.3.5.0 meant LEDs flashing on all the time. Almost every video I have seen on Youtube with Stratos reviews show LEDs on back always flashing.
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So maybe 2.3.7.0 fixed the low HR minimum (I am not sure because I do not use this feature normally, but I know it existed for 2.3.6.0/1)... I have just enabled continuous HR for the last few hours, and I am sure the green leds aren't on always. I also got the graph showing the resting rate.
guys, throw all that stuff at me, i'll try to prioritize it again.
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Can I ask if anyone who has updated has found that Continuous heart rate monitoring is now broken - symptoms are that resting heart rate is reported as '--', there are gaps in the data, and when you look at the back of the watch the heart rate LEDs only work in brief burst of about 10 seconds, the go off for a minute or two (completely different to continuous previous 2.3.5.0 behaviour).
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The same crap has been going on with the Pace for the past year. I was in touch with support for months and got a constant reply that it'll be fixed on the next ROM. This reply was repeated for months, until the warranty ran out, with me supplying the developers with data, screenshots and uploads directly from the watch. I chucked mine and put it down to buying cheap ****, and useless support. A friend who still has patience tells me that they still haven't fixed the HR issue.
Have fun with support, I hope you have better luck with the Stratos.
Hi all,
Can any one confirm if the Verge Lite has the same always on display like the verge does?
I am torn between the Stratos, Verge and the Verge Lite. Battery life is really important to me but always on display is important too. Is the Stratos really just 3 days battery with normal usage?
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Hi all,
Can any one confirm if the Verge Lite has the same always on display like the verge does?
I am torn between the Stratos, Verge and the Verge Lite. Battery life is really important to me but always on display is important too. Is the Stratos really just 3 days battery with normal usage?
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I choice Verge for many reason. So i advice you to do the same. Have Verge lite always on display feature? Amazfit saying - NO
That's a shame. The verge lite looks great and 20 days battery but no AOD. I like the look of the Stratos, why do you think I should get a verge?
I'll also wait for the GTR release. Seems interesting...
Normal usage (BT always on, no airplane mode, little or no GPS usage, always on display enabled on Verge - I am not sure if lite supports it, but my bet is that 20 days is the life span with it disabled as I cannot get more than 4 days on normal Verge):
- Verge: 3-4 days;
- Pace: 4-5 days;
- Stratos: 5-6 days.
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That's a shame. The verge lite looks great and 20 days battery but no AOD. I like the look of the Stratos, why do you think I should get a verge?
I'll also wait for the GTR release. Seems interesting...
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I activated always on display just at night period, when is sleep time (00:00 - 10:00). In the morning i find always from 100% (after charge) to 92 - 95%, when all day in normal usage draining about 1 - 2% if i don't use manually something like: heart rate tracking (is activated continuous heart rate), changing watch faces (try to do that several times, you will see that that draining battery too, maybe for reason that is activated at this moment display/screen, which in my watch is 100% brightness) and ect. Also Verge lite havn't some Verge features and ect. So maybe for this reason you can not charge about 20 days. But if you need just clock, buy normal watch. If you want smart watch i recommend to buy Verge, coz this model have much more features as older models from Amazfit/Huami. But again... in market is releasing Verge 2 or Nexo model, which is look better as/or similar to Verge, have much more feature and is from better material. Yes will cost much more, but what i read about it, this model deserve every euros. Of course some features will not work if you are not from China, but for me enough heart tracking news which will have this model. If you can't spend about 200 euros, i advise you to choose Verge. Startos have just better protection from water, also is from not plastic. All others is similar to Verge or Verge is better: microphone which havn't Stratos (i don't talk about Pace at all, coz this model is worst from these 3 at all), so voice assitant will not be available in older models like Stratos, also Amoled display, battery you can not charge with Amazfit's settings 5 days, with mine settings when is almost all features activated i can not charge about 3 - 4 days, Stratos can be the same time as i know aith Amazfit's settings, so with the same settings i think will be the same. Stratos and Verge at all is similar models by specifications, just Verge have much more.
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Normal usage (BT always on, no airplane mode, little or no GPS usage, always on display enabled on Verge - I am not sure if lite supports it, but my bet is that 20 days is the life span with it disabled as I cannot get more than 4 days on normal Verge):
- Verge: 3-4 days;
- Pace: 4-5 days;
- Stratos: 5-6 days.
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Do you have all models? By specifications which presented by Amazfit, Stratos and Verge can be not charged the same time with Amazfit's settings. Different is in protection of water, display, microphone and ect. Battries are the same as i saw
See in this web site: https://en.amazfit.com/stratos.html, also i added screenshot from this web site. By Amazfit with Pace is the same.
Thank you for all the feedback and information, you've all been very helpful. I am going to wait and see what the announcement is next week. I think I'm getting too lost in the features and need to think about what I really want in my smart watch. FYI, I'm coming from a Pebble Time, so I'm used to having quite a bit of functionality but I really look forward to the HR monitor! I'm used to charging my watch once a week, so I'm hoping that I can keep that schedule but I guess I should not be too worried about it.
Since you're coming from Pebble Time, you need be aware that always-on display for the Verge is NOT the same as always-on display for the Stratos. The Stratos is using similar display technology as the Pebble Time, when the backlight is off, the display remains the same. Verge switches to a low power mode which displays minimal information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCK1X2vyXM
But this is not better? I mean Verge always on display. I using it at night time, when i don't need other information like: steps, calories, heart rate, weather and ect. I saw there are a lot of APK files watch faces for Verge, which working like Stratos always on display, where is showing all information which showing without always on display mode. But always on display my opinion is very good when you want to see just important information like time. Of course i think date, notifications information will be great too, but all other information like: steps, calories and ect. i don't think it's need to show in always on display. I don't see different in Stratos with always on display and without always on display mode, just a little bit dimmed display, but big different there is no. SO why need at all always on display if is showing the same in display?