Can retail firmware be flashed over operator firmware? - Motorola One Zoom (aka Pro) Questions & Answers

If so, what are the best tool and steps?
The last Moto I fiddled with was the Z (XT1650-03), killed and revived the poor bastard several times, had lots of fun, but this One Zoom here is brand new, got it for the equivalent to US$ 325 in Brazil but don't want to brick it for not being prudent. I want to flash RETBR over AMXBR.
Hoping LineageOS comes out for this fella as well. Best camera setup since the Z.
TIA.

Er, by "operator" I meant "carrier"/"software channel".
The utils and procedures are the same since the Moto Z, figured that out myself. I'll install Magisk and try to change ro.carrier, then flash stock firmware back and re-lock the bootloader.
If someone knows that it won't work, letting me know is welcome.

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[Q] Any custom ROM for Australian Telstra released Atrix yet?

Is any able to advise me if the Telstra version of the Atrix would have similar issues to the Bell OS, if I decided to load up Motobread, Ginger blur etc etc.
Staunch said:
Is any able to advise me if the Telstra version of the Atrix would have similar issues to the Bell OS, if I decided to load up Motobread, Ginger blur etc etc.
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I may have missed something but i followed the steps to install gingerblur and well, it bricked my Telstra atrix that I only got yesterday
Luckily i made a backup of the telstra firmware as soon as i got it so its all good. Just got no idea on how to install CF. The telstra atrix i'm assuming is the same as the AT&T atrix because they are both "Motorola Atrix MB860" but i could be missing something
Uh oh, radio's and fingerprint reader aren't working
Oh, and it also wont turn itself off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys should probably be following instructions for the Bell Atrix. Bell users have been successful at flashing the telstra firmware and then installing grey/ginger blur and so I'd start there.
Hope it helps
DarkRyoushii
PS: OMG Atrix is released in Australia now? I should go find a telstra store and check out the differences, my Atrix that I've had since launch (from AT&T then unlocked) is the only one I've actually used so I'd love to see if the bugs in mine still exist in telstra's hahaha
EDIT: Oh and if u need a briefing. Bootloader Bypass has basically dropped off the radar and turned silent, probably still being worked on in private chats to avoid spam and offtopic posts. 2nd Init works (a different way to install custom ROMs however unable to modify kernel) but there are no ROMs developed yet, probably also being worked on in private chats if you are interested check out the freenode IRC #moto-atrix
All ROMs released as of writing are pseudoROMS that only theme and lightly modify the current OS
Thanks
DarkRyoushii said:
You guys should probably be following instructions for the Bell Atrix. Bell users have been successful at flashing the telstra firmware and then installing grey/ginger blur and so I'd start there.
Hope it helps
DarkRyoushii
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I had a really bad feeling that that would be the case. Bell users appear to have a limited range of options compaired to the AT&T users. Now it seems that the Telstra users will have even less options than the Bell users.
I have at least managed to load HeLauncher, Pyramid & Fancy widgets tonight and now I've have more of the options that I wanted from the HTC desire sense UI.
Still trying to work out how to get my hands on the widget/live weather wallpaper that has that Super Cool looking windscreen wiper that clears the rain away.... Any ideas on how to get ahold of it?
Thanks again.
limited how? what version is your telstra rom? (wondering if its the same as the one that is already on this site)
as for the windshield wiper, that is from sense....oh i see you found the mock sense thread.
y2whisper said:
limited how? what version is your telstra rom? (wondering if its the same as the one that is already on this site)
as for the windshield wiper, that is from sense....oh i see you found the mock sense thread.
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My system version is;
Version.4.1.47,MB860.Telstra.en.AU
Thanks for the info, I will start looking for the other one on this site.
So i can guess we can all agree that Telstra's Atrix cannot be flashed with custom ROM's from AT&T. I just tried it again tonight with different roms and all works up, shows "Ginger Blur" or whatever it is and then the red blinking failed boot and it just tries over and over to boot. I'm gonna flash back to OLYEM_U4_1.4.2_SIGNED_USAOLYEMTELSTRA_P029_A020_M005_HWolympus_1g_1FF and just sit and wait till something comes up unless someone's got something they wanna try
they should be able to flash using the gingerblur/greyblur guide by seven2009. you may not be able to deodex with the same instructions but installing should be fine, you would need to flash grey blur and factory reset the device before installing gingerblur.
If that route doesn't work you may need to start by flashing the french rom that is mentioned in that thread first.
makmegs said:
So i can guess we can all agree that Telstra's Atrix cannot be flashed with custom ROM's from AT&T. I just tried it again tonight with different roms and all works up, shows "Ginger Blur" or whatever it is and then the red blinking failed boot and it just tries over and over to boot. I'm gonna flash back to OLYEM_U4_1.4.2_SIGNED_USAOLYEMTELSTRA_P029_A020_M005_HWolympus_1g_1FF and just sit and wait till something comes up unless someone's got something they wanna try
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You are doing better than me so far, but I must admit that going for custom ROM's has me a bit worried. I flashed my Nokia 5800 and it was better for looks and customisation, but it crashed alot. Then I jail breaked my iSheep (iphone 3G) and that was a little better than stock iOS, but it also crashed alot too.
I am hesitant to play around too much with the Atrix, simply because it's so new, and I was patient enough to wait for the Telstra release (instead of an imported AT&T version). However I found this thread that may shed some light on the topic at hand.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?r=29747620#r29747620
User "LeChuck" has some great knowledge and info about this Telstra firmware.
I am just not adventurous enough at the moment to have a crack at it. All I need to do, is find out how I could hard reset back to stock firmware if I don't like mods, then i'll give it a go. Even since rooted it over the weekend, I've notice3d more little issues each day I play around with things.
Can it be "Un-rooted" (is that an actual term used???) back to standard?
DarkRyoushii said:
You guys should probably be following instructions for the Bell Atrix. Bell users have been successful at flashing the telstra firmware and then installing grey/ginger blur and so I'd start there.
Hope it helps
DarkRyoushii
PS: OMG Atrix is released in Australia now? I should go find a telstra store and check out the differences, my Atrix that I've had since launch (from AT&T then unlocked) is the only one I've actually used so I'd love to see if the bugs in mine still exist in telstra's hahaha
EDIT: Oh and if u need a briefing. Bootloader Bypass has basically dropped off the radar and turned silent, probably still being worked on in private chats to avoid spam and offtopic posts. 2nd Init works (a different way to install custom ROMs however unable to modify kernel) but there are no ROMs developed yet, probably also being worked on in private chats if you are interested check out the freenode IRC #moto-atrix
All ROMs released as of writing are pseudoROMS that only theme and lightly modify the current OS
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I have a buggy unlocked AT&T Atrix too and have been waiting for it to come out in OZ to flash it with either the Telstra Rom or something else. Can you (or anyone) make a suggestion?
procedure of installing custom rom
procedure of installing custom rom on atrix details are below.
system version: 45.0.20.mb860.telstra.en.au
model number:mb860
android versoin:2.3.4
basband version : N_01.100.00R
Webtop version: WT-1.20-133_23
Kernal version [email protected] #7
APflex version : GAS_Asia_usaolygbautel_p013,a012,m001
build number: 4.5.2A-74_OLE-20
shanitop_you said:
procedure of installing custom rom on atrix details are below.
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You mean, you would like the procedure of installing a custom ROM on those specs? I would too.
It's mainly the BL unlock process I am not sure about on Telstra Atrix of the same spec. I'm comfortable with the rest.

[Q] Changing Stock ROM from Asia Retail to US or EU retail.

Hello everyone,
I am new to the forums, actually this is my first post.
I got a Motorola Razr XT910 and couldn't be any happier. The phone is awesome and fast and everything is amazing.
i did one update once i got the phone and it updated to 2.3.6 and the system version is 65.1.40.XT910.PSHAsiaRetail.en.03 and i was frustrated because i live in the US and i bought the Phone from an online store(NEWEGG) for $480,
So now i am stuck on Asia system software.
The question is, Is there a way to get a system software like a US or EU software ? and is it worth it ? what are the differences ?
Also one more thing, when i watch videos from the DESKTOP YOUTUBE and OTHER VIDEOS ONLINE(High Definition MP4) or stuff like that. i find like a little black horizontal lines on the top of the screen(its barley visible) in fact no one from can see it except me XD. so i was wondering if there is a driver or update or something ? as it don't happen when i watch normal YouTube on the YouTube app nor i can see it when using the phone normally.
Thank you all. Hope i will find answers in this forum.
Hi there,
I was in your situation, only in Europe, not in the US. So I switched my AsiaRetail ROM to a en.EU retail and I've had no problems whatsoever. What you need to do is read these three topics:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539192 - get RSD Lite and the Moto drivers from here, install them before attempting anything else;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362956 - get a ROM of your liking then go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342567 - and read how to root (if you want, that is).
As for the black lines, I really can't help you as I don't watch online videos on my phone.
If you need further help, let me know.
zkvvoob said:
Hi there,
I was in your situation, only in Europe, not in the US. So I switched my AsiaRetail ROM to a en.EU retail and I've had no problems whatsoever. What you need to do is read these three topics:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539192 - get RSD Lite and the Moto drivers from here, install them before attempting anything else;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362956 - get a ROM of your liking then go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342567 - and read how to root (if you want, that is).
As for the black lines, I really can't help you as I don't watch online videos on my phone.
If you need further help, let me know.
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Man, thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate the effort. I really do !
Just one more question though, whats the difference ? and when will i be getting the official ICS upgrade ? and will it come faster on EU or Asia retail ? or both are the same ?
You don't want US because that is Verizon software, for the Xt912 (CMDA). I suggest you get EU, to obtain the fastest set of updates for the GSM razr.
What happens if i change it to the EU.Retail ? will i still be able to get updates and ICS officially ? will this void my warranty ? please help !
Iorveth said:
What happens if i change it to the EU.Retail ? will i still be able to get updates and ICS officially ? will this void my warranty ? please help !
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Yes you will get OTA ICS and it shouldn't void any warranty as long as your remove root (should you hand it back in)
So if i change the ROM to EU i have to root but after changing the ROM and everything is fine then i need to remove the root ?
i heard that root is not removable ?! right ?
i have Asia retail in US and it works beautifully. i see no reason to change.
the only reason why i want to change it is because i hope that the phone will get updates faster and the camera will work better and the phone performance will be better too
so after installing the motorola drivers, download the RSD lite and the eu retail rom whats next? im already rooted

[Q] Please help. Phone from Hong Kong, can't update past 4.2.2.

Hey guys,
Thanks in advance for any help you can give on the subject.
I just bought a Sony Xperia Z Ultra from eBay, arrived a couple of days ago, in great working condition. The firmware installed is 4.2.2, and I can't upgrade past there.
I contacted Sony and they told me it's because the IMEI number puts it's origin in Hong Kong which is why I can't update it. The only thing I can do is contact Sony Hong Kong, and I'm having a difficult time doing so.
Does anyone have a fix or workaround for this situation?
I was thinking I could root it and put an upgraded version of android on there, but as I'm not sure how rooting works, I thought I'd ask if there were any alternative options.
At this point, I'm thinking I'm just going to have to send it back, reason being when I chose this phone, one of the main points was because of the soon to be released 5.0 update.
Thanks,
Proxish said:
Hey guys,
Thanks in advance for any help you can give on the subject.
I just bought a Sony Xperia Z Ultra from eBay, arrived a couple of days ago, in great working condition. The firmware installed is 4.2.2, and I can't upgrade past there.
I contacted Sony and they told me it's because the IMEI number puts it's origin in Hong Kong which is why I can't update it. The only thing I can do is contact Sony Hong Kong, and I'm having a difficult time doing so.
Does anyone have a fix or workaround for this situation?
I was thinking I could root it and put an upgraded version of android on there, but as I'm not sure how rooting works, I thought I'd ask if there were any alternative options.
At this point, I'm thinking I'm just going to have to send it back, reason being when I chose this phone, one of the main points was because of the soon to be released 5.0 update.
Thanks,
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As far as I know you should be able to use flashtool and flash a stock ftf for your region, or wait for 5.0 to be released and then flash it.
adfurgerson said:
As far as I know you should be able to use flashtool and flash a stock ftf for your region, or wait for 5.0 to be released and then flash it.
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Thank you for getting back to me.
I may wait for 5.0. I'll need to learn how to use a flashtool with android first.
Quick couple of questions. Would using a flashtool to flash a stock ftf require the phone to be rooted?
Also, do you know if there is anyway I could use the Google Play firmware on my non-Google play edition?
Proxish said:
Thank you for getting back to me.
I may wait for 5.0. I'll need to learn how to use a flashtool with android first.
Quick couple of questions. Would using a flashtool to flash a stock ftf require the phone to be rooted?
Also, do you know if there is anyway I could use the Google Play firmware on my non-Google play edition?
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Flashtool does not require root. The GPe firmware has to be "ported" to run on Sony Z Ultra due to different partition sizes. For 4.4 there is the option to use it with locked or unlocked bootloader. For 5.0 it is only for unlocked bootloader.
adfurgerson said:
Flashtool does not require root. The GPe firmware has to be "ported" to run on Sony Z Ultra due to different partition sizes. For 4.4 there is the option to use it with locked or unlocked bootloader. For 5.0 it is only for unlocked bootloader.
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Thank you again for getting back to me.
Do you know if there is a tutorial for both porting the GPe firmware and for installing 4.4 using a bootloader? As I'm not even sure where to start with this, I'm not even sure what the difference between a locked and unlocked bootloader is. But I don't want to use up all your time, so if you can point me in the right direction, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks again,
Proxish said:
Thank you again for getting back to me.
Do you know if there is a tutorial for both porting the GPe firmware and for installing 4.4 using a bootloader? As I'm not even sure where to start with this, I'm not even sure what the difference between a locked and unlocked bootloader is. But I don't want to use up all your time, so if you can point me in the right direction, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks again,
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It has already been ported here in this thread linked below, UB and LB are short for unlocked bootloader and locked bootloader. The second post has instructions for locked install, and a simple explanation of bootloader is a set of instructions for loading the kernel so locked will only load stock. The kernel is the interface between software and hardware as I understand it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2800414
This thread is up to date if you wish to read up on rooting and unlocking methods. Please don't hesitate to ask questions as it would be better than stumbling into a mess that could be avoided.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z-ultra/general/guide-everything-root-4-4-4-t2938098
adfurgerson said:
It has already been ported here in this thread linked below, UB and LB are short for unlocked bootloader and locked bootloader. The second post has instructions for locked install, and a simple explanation of bootloader is a set of instructions for loading the kernel so locked will only load stock. The kernel is the interface between software and hardware as I understand it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2800414
This thread is up to date if you wish to read up on rooting and unlocking methods. Please don't hesitate to ask questions as it would be better than stumbling into a mess that could be avoided.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z-ultra/general/guide-everything-root-4-4-4-t2938098
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Thank you for all the information.
I've done a bit of research, and read through most of what you linked.
I'm slightly confused. As far as I understand it right now, if my bootloader is locked, I can only flash official ROMs. If my bootloader is unlocked, then I can flash any ROM I want, as long as it's compatible with my phone, but I will lose the Sony Bravia engine if I do so, is that correct? I'm not too bothered about this, just curious if this is true.
Where I am really confused, is the part where in the requirements of LB Rom Port, it said
"Be on 4.4.4 firmware (only .108)"
I'm currently stuck on 4.2, and can't get my phone to 4.4.4 with either the built in software or Sony Pc Companion. Is there a guide somewhere on how I can upgrade to 4.4.4 without using the two methods just mentioned?
I've also had a search and not been able to find a 5.0 GPe ROM Port either, guessing no one has bothered with it?
Thanks again,
Proxish said:
Thank you for all the information.
I've done a bit of research, and read through most of what you linked.
I'm slightly confused. As far as I understand it right now, if my bootloader is locked, I can only flash official ROMs. If my bootloader is unlocked, then I can flash any ROM I want, as long as it's compatible with my phone, but I will lose the Sony Bravia engine if I do so, is that correct? I'm not too bothered about this, just curious if this is true.
Where I am really confused, is the part where in the requirements of LB Rom Port, it said
"Be on 4.4.4 firmware (only .108)"
I'm currently stuck on 4.2, and can't get my phone to 4.4.4 with either the built in software or Sony Pc Companion. Is there a guide somewhere on how I can upgrade to 4.4.4 without using the two methods just mentioned?
I've also had a search and not been able to find a 5.0 GPe ROM Port either, guessing no one has bothered with it?
Thanks again,
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I seem to have also lost the miracast screen mirroring after unlocking bootloader, if you root then back up the TA first it can be restored. I don't have any experience with pc companion, usually when it is mentioned it is because someone couldn't get it to work. In those instances flashtool is recommended to use. Here is a guide for flashtool. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428319
And link for 5.0 GPe port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z-ultra/development/scrubber-t2961315
adfurgerson said:
I seem to have also lost the miracast screen mirroring after unlocking bootloader, if you root then back up the TA first it can be restored. I don't have any experience with pc companion, usually when it is mentioned it is because someone couldn't get it to work. In those instances flashtool is recommended to use. Here is a guide for flashtool. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428319
And link for 5.0 GPe port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z-ultra/development/scrubber-t2961315
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Thank you for the links, again, much appreciated.
I was able to find an official thread for Sony Roms, and think I've found the ROM I need to upgrade to 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453921
STOCK ROM] [FTF] Xperia Z Ultra (C6833) 14.4.A.0.108 "US RETAIL"
I assume this one will be ok, though I'm unsure. My phones model number is C6833, and this was the only 14.4.A.0.108 ROM I could find, and as far as I've seen, that's the recommended one for 4.4.4, assuming I haven't done anything wrong.
And just double checking, do I Need to root the phone to put the 5.0 GPE port on?
Thanks,
adfurgerson said:
I seem to have also lost the miracast screen mirroring after unlocking bootloader, if you root then back up the TA first it can be restored. I don't have any experience with pc companion, usually when it is mentioned it is because someone couldn't get it to work. In those instances flashtool is recommended to use. Here is a guide for flashtool. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428319
And link for 5.0 GPe port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z-ultra/development/scrubber-t2961315
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I was able to use FlashTool to update the phone to the official 4.4.4 ROM, so that you very much for all your help.
I think I may just end up sticking with the Xperia ROM, in favor of rooting and installing a port. I'm actually really liking the 4.4.4 Xperia version.
Thank you very much for all your help, I really appreciate it, wouldn't of been able to do this without your help.
Proxish said:
I was able to use FlashTool to update the phone to the official 4.4.4 ROM, so that you very much for all your help.
I think I may just end up sticking with the Xperia ROM, in favor of rooting and installing a port. I'm actually really liking the 4.4.4 Xperia version.
Thank you very much for all your help, I really appreciate it, wouldn't of been able to do this without your help.
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That's good that you got updated. If you decide later to try custom ROMs or the ports be sure to root, then backup the TA partition before unlocking the bootloader. If you wanted to stay on stock but add some customizations you could root and install xsposed framework modules.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/index-xposed-modules-collection-post-t2327541

Return to Stock from LP?

Hi Guys,
I forgot the exact steps on how I unlocked the BL and installed the rooted Siraltus build for the latest Lollipop ROM. But basically, now I want to sell my phone... Can someone please share or remind me the steps to go back to the stock ROM, unrooted LP ROM, and lock the Bootloader so the new buyer can OTA from it...?
Would appreciate any quick assist... Have a seller lined up waiting for a transaction...
Thank you guys in advance!
Not possible, there is no Lollipop KDZ. I would say, flash the Evil Yummy Gumdrop stock ROM, use SuperSU's full unroot option, and remove Xposed Framework (if installed) with the arm64 uninstaller zip linked in @rovo89's Xposed thread. To be fair to the buyer, at least let them know what you did and why, they may or may not be cool with it. A software-modded phone wouldnt be a dealbreaker for me.
Edit: Siraltus ROM may work fine too but I never cared much for it. EYG was my stable daily driver.
Since you're selling it, you could also just flash the latest official 20L (Marshmallow) KDZ. This would be the cleanest approach. Not sure if this will relock the bootloader, you may have to do this manually. No big deal. If your buyer explicitly only wants Lollipop then you will have to use the steps above.
And do not under any circumstances flash @tungkick's modded Lollipop KDZ. It soft-bricked my device, I had to pay $5 to trade my device for another v10 in-store. He's a cool guy, no bad feelings against him, but he provided a file that simply didnt work.

unable to flash Xperia XZ1 due to wrong bundle

Hi everyone ,
lets start by saying, i accidentally got over my head and ****ed up big time. since my warranty is over, i am eager to try a custom rom, which is resurrection Remix and since im already at android Pie, i thought i'd follow set of instructions on https://www.getdroidtips.com/resurrection-remix-sony-xperia-xz1/#Steps_to_Install_Resurrection_Remix_on_Sony_Xperia_XZ1 i have managed to unlock the boot loader (that was easy) but then when i tried to flash the rom downloaded from this site https://get.resurrectionremix.com/?dir=gsi, which i used this rom in particular [system-190406-arm64-aonly-vanilla-nosu.img] the system just hanged on sony for a while... i got worried so i downloaded another one from the site which is this [ system-190406-arm64-ab-vanilla-nosu.img] then it suddenly started the TWRP loop. Because i'm unable to install the Gapps, i used this method to install them : https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/fix-error-70-install-gapps-t3311779 and it does work. but it ended in a loop anyways
i decided maybe my phone isn't destined for custom, so i decide to flash the stock rom instead. i got the stock rom from XperiFirm, my model is G8342, so i downloaded that bundle as per my own cellular company.
here comes the problem: my model isn't supported in the sony mobile flasher by Androxyde... so i tried my luck and go a head with XZ premium and got this: 24/019/2019 09:19:21 - ERROR - The bundle does not match the connected device.
i searched far and wide buy my brand seems to be the lesser popular ones. so please, i need help. i give you my thanks in advance.
It is NOT THAT EASY as in the writeup. As you have experienced...
The problems you have stem from DM-Verity in the stock SONY ROMs.
Flash your DLed Stock ROM with Newflasher.
Once your blood pressure settles and you feel adventurous again adapt the writeup for Mokee in this forum.
Resurrection (if it/GSI works with touch, compass, VoLTE, ...) is a good choice.
DHGE said:
It is NOT THAT EASY as in the writeup. As you have experienced...
The problems you have stem from DM-Verity in the stock SONY ROMs.
Flash your DLed Stock ROM with Newflasher.
Once your blood pressure settles and you feel adventurous again adapt the writeup for Mokee in this forum.
Resurrection (if it/GSI works with touch, compass, VoLTE, ...) is a good choice.
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Thank you for the advice.. i will definitely try it.
also, i will feel adventurous again, but this time, i will use my back up phone for this, AFTER i survived this ordeal

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