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I notice quite a lot of rom threads are being closed...
only a few are being updates while lots were lasted update near the beginning of the month...
Lol.. There are too many roms already and almost all of them are very stable. So why do we need nightly/weekly updates if we have something like pure nexus or chroma running solid? Custom roms will live forever especially for nexus devices.
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Another one was added today. I'm patiently waiting to see if pure nexus appears with cmte. Its in the works.I hear
No end in sight! This is XDA ftw!
Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
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Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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The community legit doesn't deserve for him to continue.
His threads would literally make me sick the way ppl treated him. The way they DEMANDED alterations as opposed to asking. The way they asked over and over, despite his firm NO.
I'm gonna miss the hell out of his ROMs. The best. If some major changes happen, maybe Ill move to Pure Nexus, but for now... and a long while... I think the latest Cata mod will be on my phone.
This community truly sucks, sometimes
This has definitely been true for non-Nexus phones. I was big into LG phones, I had the G2, G3, and G4 (all on Verizon). The G2 had tons of development, both stock and AOSP ROMs, and the G3 was similar but noticeably less. The G4 has been non-existent. I remember the days when virtually all phones were rooted and unlocked by devs, with lots of custom ROMs, but this seems to be going away very quickly. Now it's likely if you buy a non-Nexus device, it won't get root at all, let alone custom ROMs.
Looking at the 6P development, I see what you're talking about. Lots of ROMs that started when the phone came out have ceased getting updates, and you only have a handful of solid ROMs to choose from.
I wouldn't be surprised if custom roms are a dying breed. IMHO part of it is that Android is slowly moving towards getting the basic feature set and UI tweaks that people want, and more manufacturers are trimming down their bloated UI's (some exceptions obv, unnamed). But also --- this may sound cynical, but just from my own observation: Many of these enthusiast-worked/powered/funded projects are far too often met with self-entitled users (in the very literal sense of the word) who think their use of the rom/software/art/w/e entitles them to complain endlessly about every little thing and every minute lack of an update (or desired/demanded feature) for what is usually a free or donationware product. Not to mention the people who are too careless/hasty to follow instructions and end up bricking their devices, only to blame the devs and spew a bunch of vitriol. I don't blame anyone who quits at all.
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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That's one breathe taking letter! Wish him the best and this Developer will be missed by XDA...
I love custom ROMs!!! I remember when I unlocked my first smart phone the first evo and I found the perfect stable ROM for it...now every time I get a new phone I find myself searching for a ROM I think it makes whatever handset you're using perfect. Thank you to everyone that takes the time to develop
the past roms I used, have not closed down.. Cataclysm was the second rom I used and liked...
I try not to use any roms that are CM based.. lol.. not sure why... I like the AOSP based roms better...
XDA has been going downhill for years now. Seen some amazing devs and funny members just up and leave over the years for this very reason.
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Every ROM will meet its end some time... Beanstalk disappeared. Avatar halted. AOKP is no longer active. ParanoidAndroid and PACman had gone big in form but small in functionality and usefulness. Even CM, with Google incorporating more and more changes into each new Android version and limiting features these ROMs can touch, might die out someday.
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Yeah some people here do not understand devs do this in there free time, for fun theycowe you nothing and you are very privileged to be getting such incredible free software. This upsets a lot if devs and makes them leave the community.
I stopped publishing my own approach of a ROM after I got rid of my old Samsung Galaxy S3 and moved on to Nexus devices. I'm happy with a customised Stock based ROM which suits me well. I'm not sure if anybody else would be interested in it since the Nexus forums offer a great number of custom ROMs, some of which are filled with extra stuff. I can somehow understand the guys who stop publishing their work. I never asked for donations, in fact I don't have a PayPal account linked to my profile Maintaining a ROM is a huge effort, especially if you're on your own and not part of a team.
ROMs are no longer needed plain and simple. Back in the hay days of ROMs, Galaxy S2 and 3, HTC EVO, ROMs were a necessity considering how badly optimized phones were back then.. running great software with horrible specs. Developers made the phone a lot better... I still remember the days of running Viper ROM on my samsung epic on the Sprint network.. those were the days.
Fast forward today I'm going on two years without flashing a ROM and reality is I see no need for it.
I pose a question to the great Nexus community, what's the purpose of flashing ROMs when the device runs perfect out the box?
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Root is a must for me since it allows you to get rid of some unwanted Google Apps (eg Google+, Google Play Games etc), use a Adblocker and special Apps like eg Titanium Backup or LMT
Custom roms, with the exception of a select few, have always been highly overrated imo. Most of them take software that is already created, debloat it (which we can do ourselves) and add some features that anyone can get through xposed, etc.
I used to always laugh when people would jump in a rom thread with outrageous claims like their battery life doubled, it's 100x smoother than stock, etc. Placebo effect runs high on custom roms imo.
With that being said, I've flashed just as many roms as most of you. I still see the value in some of them.
But as other people have said, it's just not as necessary anymore. As long as you can root, you can debloat, add xposed if you wanted, etc.
Doesn't seem to make as big of a difference as before.
Yeah it's not how it used to be and that probably for the better, most anything you could want can be done through Xposed and a custom kernel. While most custom roms are more stable than they were in the early days(seems to have more to do with a more stable aosp), there isn't much incentive and there are often still bugs. It's not because devs are bad at what they do, but building a stable rom requires a team of people and testing environments that people just don't have at home. Early in the days of windows mobile and Android roms were very poorly optimised out of the box, but it'd not really like that anymore.
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We have too many custom roms for onyx. That's a good and bad thing the same time. It's a good thing because we have many good developers who create special roms from there personal time giving us great diversity but at the same time we have many buggy or constantly updating roms in very small incremental steps. I think it would be a good idea if we users could create some kind of feature database with all the various roms and the most important, how they stack up to each other from features /steadiness, battery stamina point of view. I don't know if it's a good idea koritsi even doable) but it is a thought I had for a long time because I encountered the same problem when I wanted to choose between various roms. What do we think about that?? Thanks for taking the time and reading / contributing in the topic.
Ps; If mods think it needs to be moved in another section I would be grateful. Thanks again.
Omicron Technics
You've posted in the wrong section.
I think it's a good idea! Thought of something like that myself a few days ago. So far I've tried pure unofficial CM13 and Temaseks Custom CM13, apart from stock OOS, of course. Liked the pure one a little better due to better stability and lesser, but also less incremental updates. That's my two cents. What's your experience?
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We have too many custom roms for onyx. That's a good and bad thing the same time. It's a good thing because we have many good developers who create special roms from there personal time giving us great diversity but at the same time we have many buggy or constantly updating roms in very small incremental steps. I think it would be a good idea if we users could create some kind of feature database with all the various roms and the most important, how they stack up to each other from features /steadiness, battery stamina point of view. I don't know if it's a good idea koritsi even doable) but it is a thought I had for a long time because I encountered the same problem when I wanted to choose between various roms. What do we think about that?? Thanks for taking the time and reading / contributing in the topic.
Ps; If mods think it needs to be moved in another section I would be grateful. Thanks again.
Omicron Technics
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I was thinking about Candy 6, maybe I'll roll it back!
@sniper20 You are right. But Please PM Mike Channon to move this thread to the Gernal Section.
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rohitporoli said:
I was thinking about Candy 6, maybe I'll roll it back!
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DON'T ROLL BACK!!
This is ONLY OP's opinion.
Majority are WAITING for custom ROMs as far as I know.
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We have too many custom roms for onyx. That's a good and bad thing the same time. It's a good thing because we have many good developers who create special roms from there personal time giving us great diversity but at the same time we have many buggy or constantly updating roms in very small incremental steps. I think it would be a good idea if we users could create some kind of feature database with all the various roms and the most important, how they stack up to each other from features /steadiness, battery stamina point of view. I don't know if it's a good idea koritsi even doable) but it is a thought I had for a long time because I encountered the same problem when I wanted to choose between various roms. What do we think about that?? Thanks for taking the time and reading / contributing in the topic.
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Yes, there are many custom roms with issues, but they are basically all based on the same custom CM rom - which means that once we solve an issue there, it will also be fixed on the custom roms.
For now I think: more custom roms = more users = more feedback = less issues in the long term.
Having a feature database would be great, but people have way too different requests/expectations from roms, that would not really work.
We need to have more custom roms so that we stick to this lovely service for a long time.. It's a nature of human being too desire more rather than sticking for one thing
I agree, the claim of "too many roms" might be exaggerated. The underlying notion of a database listing all the ROMs at our disposal with their objective feature sets plus maybe things like current versions, links, bugs and quirks and benchmark scores plus personal experience with them concerning day-to-day performance and battery life would be a great thing, wouldn't it? New users would get a hub with essential information to get into finding and flashing the ROM most suited for them quickly, while senior users would have the overview of new developments of their favorite ROMs. For me, that sounds great. I hope the OP did not want to imply limitations of ROMs would be the way to go. Competition makes for some nice developments.
I had the same problem choosing a ROM. features are all described in their own threads. but it's a lot to read and hard to decide which one is right for you.
maybe something like categories could be made. like: Resurrection ROM is feature heavy and only for power users, CrDroid is in the middle and CM is just basic without extra features....
someone would have to make a list like that.
Agreed.
Quality>quantity.
All the ROMs have a very minor bug, but most of them were cleared and being cleared. But now the ROM I really miss in OnePlus X is MIUI. But yes We have CM13 which is awesome in every aspect.
I myself tried porting miui to opx but stuck with mi logo and have no idea how to Clear this. I hope Our beloved OnePlus X devs are trying to make one.
Biggest issue is you have a solid Rom working for you and you feel the need to flash every update. I was that guy for a while. If your Rom is working great don't update unless it's next month's security patch or some major feature added in you must try.
as for me: choose rom with ota stable & feel free
What intrigues me the most is not the many custom roms available, but the same devs compiling/maintaining 3 or 4 roms at the same time. That ends up in not getting enough time to deal with bugs imo...i never saw such thing (the same dev having 3 or 4 roms at the same time) with any other device I had previously, only the opx. Sometimes the same dev maintains a rom for other devices(like sultans cm13 for our opx and another device that dev has for example), but not different roms. At least I never saw it happen on my previous devices
Ok, my question is neither a disrespect to any dev working on the device nor i decline all their hard work which they put in bringing us cm and twrp etc... This is simply a question...
After cm, will devs work on other roms, to port them to our phone e.g aokp or pacman....
Sorry if i hurt anyones feelings.. I know u guys are working hard....
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Broken and Dirty Unicorns
Du and broken are both supposed to be coming to the 5x after we get official marshmallow. Those are about the only 2 I care about so IDK about any others. Broken already has lollipop for it but they aren't going to release it to the public until it's upgraded to mm.
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Du and broken are both supposed to be coming to the 5x after we get official marshmallow. Those are about the only 2 I care about so IDK about any others. Broken already has lollipop for it but they aren't going to release it to the public until it's upgraded to mm.
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What is DU and what is Broken? Are those names of AOSP based roms? I've heard of many Roms but not those?
Names of developers
cyrusalmighty said:
What is DU and what is Broken? Are those names of AOSP based roms? I've heard of many Roms but not those?
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Broken os and dirty unicorns... A quick Google Search will tell you all you need to know
I hope some custom roms some through fast, the stock really sucks a** and it's just not Android from UX or it's functions! Such crap OS, hell, can't even use basic root apps effectively (like TB) or install straight forward mods (v4A for ex)....all things either screw up the system or just don't work! The CM build by crpalmer seems to be working for most, but it lack fingerprint support something of a factor that made me buy this phone in the first place
wickedesires said:
Broken os and dirty unicorns... A quick Google Search will tell you all you need to know
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That's good news ... I really like
dirty unicorn.... Haven't used broken os.. Is it also that polished and customizable??
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nandakalyan said:
I hope some custom roms some through fast, the stock really sucks a** and it's just not Android from UX or it's functions! Such crap OS, hell, can't even use basic root apps effectively (like TB) or install straight forward mods (v4A for ex)....all things either screw up the system or just don't work! The CM build by crpalmer seems to be working for most, but it lack fingerprint support something of a factor that made me buy this phone in the first place
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Stock isn't too terrible if you use a different launcher. I have v4a and tibu both running great, Just took a little work. As far as dev names and stuff like that... Come on guys you have all the worlds knowledge at your fingertips use it! I won't spoon feed it to you
I'm would love to have Exodus on this. The aosp beauty like omni... And omni too. These best these days are Exodus and omni
Without the correct sources and binaries i'm not seeing any sort of custom ROMs become stable enough for daily use. Even Lollipop ROMs are currently bug-ridden due to Honor releasing ****ty code.
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Without the correct sources and binaries i'm not seeing any sort of custom ROMs become stable enough for daily use. Even Lollipop ROMs are currently bug-ridden due to Honor releasing ****ty code.
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Still not as bad as the source for the Kirin SoC in the Honor 4x, That was an "amazing" experience.
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Without the correct sources and binaries i'm not seeing any sort of custom ROMs become stable enough for daily use. Even Lollipop ROMs are currently bug-ridden due to Honor releasing ****ty code.
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Honor should release the correct source, i think then we will have more custom roms...
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wickedesires said:
Stock isn't too terrible if you use a different launcher. I have v4a and tibu both running great, Just took a little work. As far as dev names and stuff like that... Come on guys you have all the worlds knowledge at your fingertips use it! I won't spoon feed it to you
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Yea, thanks for the hint though i love all the tinkering I do, I missed the alternative launcher option! I installed Nova and it's much better than the stock Huawei home launcher.
Also, on the V4A, somehow it refuses to work at times and having an "abnormal" status for the driver. Uninstalled it completely now and flashed the Dolby Atmos, seems like my phone has suddenly come alive when it comes to speaker quality and music on headphones.......way better than what I was getting with V4A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/mod-dolby-atmos-t3109446
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Also, on the V4A, somehow it refuses to work at times and having an "abnormal" status for the driver.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/mod-dolby-atmos-t3109446
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I was having the same problem with the "abnormal driver", then I got the selinux mode changer app and set it to change it to permissive on every boot... Viola! And yes it is much better with a different launcher. I'm running Google Now launcher and now that we have xposed I'm using xposed gel settings to get it just the way I want
If I help anyone in any way please hit that thanks button, I really need em right now lol
Dirty unicorns builders for nougat on honor 5x?
Its months ago , now moved to devs-base
Hey.
I was wondering if it's possible to strip the official global stable rom to bare-bones, make it similar to AOSP.
I don't want no MIUI apps, especially Messages, which after every update/reset sends international sms for verification WTF!?
I know there are real AOSP roms, but I tested many and they all drain batterry much more than official MIUI.
Is there some kind of newbie guide? Or maybe does such rom already exists?
So far I tried unistalling apps that I don't want but it breaks the device (bootloop), I guess there is some miui-check to prevent boot if core changes are made?
Many thanks in advance!
ketogeno said:
Hey.
I was wondering if it's possible to strip the official global stable rom to bare-bones, make it similar to AOSP....
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The short answer is "no". The long answer is things are too integrated, and deleting the wrong thing (and many things are "the wrong thing" in this respect) will simply leave you with a broken system. If you are really interested, read the "SKINNY" threads in the Redmi Note 2 forums.
i was thinking of doing this but it would be a waste of time, custom roms are pretty good now.
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First of all your post's title is very misleading, edit it.
Look brother, it's inappropriate to make posts like this. Developers do all the hard work for free, but they have a life too. It takes time, skill & a lot of trouble shooting to develop a ROM. So just give them some time, okay?
If we keep nagging them, the devs might feel annoyed & lose their interest in developing for our device completely. Tell me, is that what you want? The problem is we only want to take everything for free, giving nothing in return - not even a little bit of patience!! That's not how the world works.
Android 10 isn't out for this device yet, but we already have 4 Android Q based custom ROMs for A3. You can try those in the meanwhile.
No hard feelings bro, just wanted to share my thoughts with you. Thank you.
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First of all your post's title is very misleading, edit it.
Look brother, it's inappropriate to make posts like this. Developers do all the hard work for free, but they have a life too. It takes time, skill & a lot of trouble shooting to develop a ROM. So just give them some time, okay?
If we keep nagging them, the devs might feel annoyed & lose their interest in developing for our device completely. Tell me, is that what you want? The problem is we only want to take everything for free, giving nothing in return - not even a little bit of patience!! That's not how the world works.
Android 10 isn't out for this device yet, but we already have 4 Android Q based custom ROMs for A3. You can try those in the meanwhile.
No hard feelings bro, just wanted to share my thoughts with you. Thank you.
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i used miui before & bored of stock rom limited features.. used two custom rom they aslo limited features.
that's why want miui or Oxygen os. nobody give any attention if i ask for this two rom
sorry.. i give up ?
soliman.sohan said:
i used miui before & bored of stock rom limited features.. used two custom rom they aslo limited features.
that's why want miui or Oxygen os. nobody give any attention if i ask for this two rom
sorry.. i give up ?
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I see. Stock android is not everyone's cup of tea. You see, this phone runs on stock android, so every custom rom for this device is going to be based on stock/AOSP. You probably won't get that cartoonish MIUI for this device. GSIs? May be. But those things are always riddled with bugs. Talking of Oxygen OS, there isn't a whole lot of deference between Android One & OOS. Besides, you'll lose the ability to use your cameras to their full potential - a common problem with custom roms in general.
You really should have gone with CC9e instead of A3.
I, for one, enjoy clean, fluid & bloat-free Android. Every feature you get on MIUI can be duplicated on stock rom with the help of some useful apps & a bit of creativity
Basically, stock android is like soft clay. You can customize it to any shape you like (granted, it does require some effort); you can't say the same for 3rd party skins like MIUI.
I thought that after more than 2 years since Mi A1, people finally learned that if they want MIUI, they need to buy a phone with MIUI and not Android One. What puzzles me even more, Xiaomi offers EXACTLY the same device with/without MIUI, yet people jump on the Android One train and complain.. Sorry for being off-topic, but I'm amazed by this behavior since the beginning of Xiamoi's Android One line
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I see. Stock android is not everyone's cup of tea. You see, this phone runs on stock android, so every custom rom for this device is going to be based on stock/AOSP. You probably won't get that cartoonish MIUI for this device. GSIs? May be. But those things are always riddled with bugs. Talking of Oxygen OS, there isn't a whole lot of deference between Android One & OOS. Besides, you'll lose the ability to use your cameras to their full potential - a common problem with custom roms in general.
You really should have gone with CC9e instead of A3.
I, for one, enjoy clean, fluid & bloat-free Android. Every feature you get on MIUI can be duplicated on stock rom with the help of some useful apps & a bit of creativity
Basically, stock android is like soft clay. You can customize it to any shape you like (granted, it does require some effort); you can't say the same for 3rd party skins like MIUI.
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sorry to say you don't realy know indeep about miui.. use oos or miui 1year with using then full feature then you will get your own ansr.. stock is simple & powerful
& one thing if you use telegram you can understand between what's & telegram..just think miui is telegram & stock is like whatsapp
and sorry guys.. if you think i am not respecting dev
i will sell a3. & next time will not post like this
(for new law in our country i can't buy mi cc9e or better version for money)
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