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I truly believe that having these in competition will better everyone's experience with both. Competition is good. Look at Apple vs Microsoft years ago.
What's everyone else's thoughts on this ?
Competition is always good
Competition is good. Google is boring and old school.
Time for HMS to change the definition of Smartphone.
I wish HMS would get up to speed fast. That way I don't need to be so reliant on one company for mobile-related services.
Still GMS is better for now
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ra1n25 said:
Competition is always good
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Indeed the competition is good and I hope Huawei succeeds in dethroning the giant Google.
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Indeed the competition is good and I hope Huawei succeeds in dethroning the giant Google.
Indeed, I'm all for increased competition as it should benefit end users!
HMS and unlocked bootloader would be awesome. Huawei needs to be unlocked in order to be relevant for the community.
HMS is way better than gms.
I hope we will get a nice alternative to Huawei. Would be nice to see this in custom ROM's as well as an alternative to GAPPS.
Sorry I am new to this community. I feel like GMS and HMS are pretty similar at the moment but HMS could be a lot more personalised whereas GMS will have stay pretty much the same to remain user friendly to all
I really don't feel like this will bring any good, even when i feel as competition is always better than monopoly, but i don't use either GMS nor HMS, i prefer use FOSS and nothing from these ones.
Bests ^^.
It would be interesting to see how it plays out. Since HMS is developed by Huawei, there is definitely more of a negative stigma towards it due to that whole CCP and Huawei scandal.
Its competition which makes one discover new ways.
from my point of view
Global Reach：HMS Core have covered 570 million users in over 190 countries and regions, which helps developers acquire new users quickly and efficiently. HMS Core establishes a seamless connection between your application and users around the world.
One-stop Integration: The Huawei Developer Website provides API references, development guides, sample codes, and video guides to make you know how to integrate quickly with HMS Core in your app’s development.
Comprehensive Capabilities of Basic Services：HMS Core provides 24（still increasing:good:） kinds of capabilities based on the Chipset-Device-Cloud mode, which helps developers integrate into the HMS Core ecosystem quickly and brings better and intelligent experience to Huawei users in all scenarios.
Competition is good for better development
Something new to look Forward
Finally we have something new to look forward to. It would be interesting to see how Huawei goes against Google
I think the gotcha is push notifications. Many (most) apps uses services that require GMS on the phone, so their notifications simply do not work on HMS. It is unrealistic to expect app developers to port their code for HMS.
I wonder if there's any scope for a 'proxy' service to forward notifications from services that target GMS to ones that can only use HMS.
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The rollout of HMS can reasonably be regarded as a defensive action by Huawei, which is merely safeguarding its business in the wake of the U.S. trade ban. Nonetheless, it would be a mistake to fail to grasp its broader significance.
HMS marks not just a turning point for Huawei, but also for the entire IT industry in China.
In the past, China's IT enterprises operated within narrow bounds, playing a supplementary role, as dictated by Internet giants in developed countries. This model reserves the lion's share of profits for enterprises such as Google, and leaves up-and-comers such as Huawei scrambling for the leftovers. The rollout of HMS represents the first time that a company from the developing world has sought to overcome its ingrained disadvantages, and in the process, revolutionize the entire mobile service ecosystem.
Moreover, HMS is just a springboard for more ambitious endeavors. With the development of a proprietary mobile operating system, HarmonyOS, Huawei will have built an end-to-end ecosystem that encompasses every facet of mobile computing and development, from the device chipset, to the operating system, and app architecture. HMS will also reinforce the unique advantages inherent in HarmonyOS, enticing developers who are eager to venture into new, and potentially more fertile, terrain.
Google's GMS Ecosystem Is Dominant, with Strong User Stickiness
Google was founded more than 20 years ago, and gradually ascended to become the top provider of Internet services, with the exception of a few fields, such as social software and short videos. It owns the dominant search engine and map services that have become fixtures in everyday life for billions of users. Even if Huawei's HMS were to introduce competitive third-party services, it would not dislodge Google in the short-term from its dominant perch.
Long-Term Investment Is Required to Attract Vendors Outside of China
The HMS ecosystem has been developing rapidly since its debut, just a few months ago. However, its user base is still small when compared with that of GMS. This should not come as a shock, as GMS has been around for 13 years, during which it has outlasted a litany of strong, deep-pocketed competitors, ranging from Microsoft's ill-fated Windows Phone ecosystem, to BlackBerry's software ecosystem. The rivalry between Huawei HMS and Google GMS will play out over the long haul, and Huawei's greatest assets are its patience and persistence.
Mobile Device Industry Will Be Divided
Despite its substantial differences, HMS does share one thing in common with GMS: Apps that are developed via HMS service APIs are unable to run on mobile devices that do not have the HMS framework installed. The inevitable result of HMS's ascendance, will be the division of the mobile device market into separate spheres. It's reasonable to speculate that there may be three ecosystems for Android-based mobile devices:
GMS: adopted by all mobile devices sold outside of the Chinese mainland, except for Huawei mobile devices
HMS: only adopted by Huawei mobile devices
Non-GMS/-HMS: adopted by all mobile devices sold in the Chinese mainland, except for Huawei mobile devices
It remains unclear if other leading brands, such as Samsung, Xiaomi, OPPO, and VIVO, will opt to have HMS preinstalled on their products. Thus far, only Huawei and Honor have announced their intention to use HMS, and the ecosystem is being designed accordingly.
In August 2019, Xiaomi, OPPO, and VIVO founded the Global Developer Service Alliance (GDSA), aiming to provide a unified portal connecting developers to the vendors' various app stores. On the GDSA registration platform, developers submit their apps, including Android installation-free apps, games, music, movie, books, magazines, and other digital content and services. Currently, GDSA services span nine countries and regions including major markets such as India, Indonesia, Russia, and Malaysia.
It's difficult to forecast the future relationship between HMS and GDSA; they might compete for the same terrain, or alternatively opt to join forces in competing against Google.
Shenzhen, 23 December 2020 – Huawei earlier this month reaffirmed its commitment and support to help Chinese developers expand into overseas app markets, as well as wider cross-border expansion into the global market, at the HMS Go Global Ecosystem Alliance Summit. During the summit, developers learned about how Huawei’s initiatives and the HMS Go Global Ecosystem Alliance are helping developers overcome the key challenges for overseas market expansion – product localisation, policy consulting, local promotion to drive user acquisition, and monetisation.
The relatively mature and advanced development of China's mobile sector has simultaneously created opportunities for Chinese developers to expand overseas and incentivised global developers to enter the Chinese market. China accounted for 38% of the global consumer spend on mobile apps and saw almost 100 billion apps downloaded in 2019. But while these numbers reflect the tremendous success of Chinese developers and the market, developers from both sides are still pinned down by pain points such as user acquisition and policy requirements regardless of the direction they are expanding towards.
“Huawei firmly believes that expanding beyond borders is the key for many Chinese developers to increase their mobile applications’ user numbers and revenue, and continue the growth trajectory in overseas markets,” said Mr Wang Yanmin, President of Global Partnerships and Eco-Development at Huawei Consumer Business Group. “HMS Go Global Ecosystem Alliance was formed in September this year to realise this vision. We hope to gradually build up the Go Global Service Engine and global HMS ecosystem to enable more Chinese developers to expand their mobile applications across borders, and experience success abroad.”
Huawei provides extensive support for developers looking to expand beyond their home markets
To help developers navigate and successfully launch their apps in overseas market, Huawei and the HMS Go Global Ecosystem Alliance will offer overseas developers all-rounded assistance, from policy consulting, to product localisation, to support with user acquisition and monetisation.
Among the wide array of measures provided by Huawei and the alliance, is the HMS Core Localisation Service Solution which provides a full-cycle localisation service that touches on the entire spectrum of the development process, empowering developers to align their apps with the local culture, lifestyle, taste and habits. Additionally, developers have access to an online compliance toolkit, which aggregates useful resources and information such as case studies and directory of accreditation companies, to help them navigate the myriad of laws and regulations in their targeted markets. Finally, developers can tap on AppGallery’s vast marketing resources to reach out to their audiences easily and effectively in overseas markets.
During the summit, Huawei also shared several case studies to highlight how ecommerce developers leveraged HMS core capabilities to facilitate their global expansion strategies through precision marketing, as well as enhancing the shopping and app experience.
For instance, Banggood, one of the largest cross-border ecommerce apps in South East China, collaborated with AppGallery in a multi-regional marketing campaign to achieve over 60,000 new downloads and 1,000 new users within three weeks. Another ecommerce app, JD.com, integrated HMS core capabilities with the app to offer users a “what you experience is what you can get” Augmented Reality/Virtual Reality shopping experience. This unique feature was a resounding success with customers – it led to nearly 20% increase in order conversion, as well as a 15% jump in average visit time.
HMS Go Global Ecosystem Alliance partners share insights on developers’ overseas expansion
While there are unparalleled opportunities in expanding to overseas app markets, developers need to understand the various regulatory considerations and uniqueness of the user base.
During the summit, HMS Go Global Ecosystem Alliance partners such as SHAREit, Mintegral, and NetDragon Websoft came together for a panel discussion where they shared insights on the various opportunities and challenges that developers faced when they enter foreign markets, particularly in the era of Globalisation 2.0.
The session also touched on the key differences between Globalisation 1.0 and 2.0. The panellists highlighted that while the key to success for businesses during the previous era was centred on developing their unique competitive edge within their respective field, brands will have to go the extra mile in the Globalisation 2.0 world. Brands will have to look outward beyond their respective fields and embrace collaboration to drive greater innovation and business growth. The panel shared that this was the original intention behind the alliance formation – for developers to onboard the HMS ecosystem and collaborate with each other while exploring overseas market expansion opportunities.
The webinar also invited Tom Rafferty, Regional Director, Asia for The Economist Intelligence Unit, to share valuable insights on market conditions, as well as challenges, opportunities, and risks for developers to expand overseas in a post-pandemic world.
During the session, Rafferty shared that Chinese firms are still ahead of the rest of the world in terms of meeting the needs of the digital consumers, and the epidemic is the perfect opportunity for developers to re-examine their strategies and opportunities to prepare for the future, particularly in Southeast Asian markets where opportunities are bountiful.
Huawei has an extensive user base in China as well as a deep understanding of its domestic app marketplace. The company is increasingly looking to leverage this expertise to help international developers gain a better understanding of the Chinese market, and working alongside to help them overcome obstacles, unlock the countless opportunities of launching an app in China.
For more information, please visit the HMS Go Global Ecosystem Alliance website at https://consumer.huawei.com/en/partners/goglobal/
AppGallery – One of the top three app marketplaces globally
All applications developed in collaboration with Huawei, along with thousands of other quality apps, are available on Huawei’s open and secure app distribution platform, AppGallery. One of the top three app marketplaces globally, AppGallery connects more than 500 million monthly active users throughout more than 170 countries and regions to Huawei’s smart and innovative ecosystem.
AppGallery provides users with more choice and better app discovery options, with thousands of apps across 18 categories, including news, social media, entertainment, and more.
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Recently, some netizens found that the latest version of QQ 8.4.10 has been connected to HMS, which is faster for pushing QQ messages compared to the version without HMS.
There are always several applications that dictate the user's choice of phone and operating system.
According to statistics, there are typically around 40 applications that already cover most of the daily applications that are associated with the country and region. It is no exaggeration to say that these key applications will dictate the user's choice if a situation arises that requires the user to choose between the phone and the application. For example, an iPhone without WeChat installed is believed to be a hard sell in China.
The news of QQ adapting to HMS shows us Tencent's attitude towards HMS ecology. This attitude of Tencent is conducive to the construction of HMS ecology, as well as to Tencent's own development.
When the U.S. first began to suppress Huawei, many companies did not realize the U.S. intentions, and as the U.S. pressed Huawei step by step, Google began to prohibit Huawei from using GMS, and domestic mobile phone-related enterprises began to feel a certain threat. It wasn't until later, when overseas WeChat and Ali also began to meet resistance, that they really felt the threat of the US.
As everyone knows, everyone sees that the U.S. crackdown on Huawei is just the beginning, and the ultimate goal is to target our entire information industry, including, of course, application platforms.
Google cut off Huawei's GMS supply, making Huawei's overseas business extremely shrinking, and as a last resort, Huawei invested heavily in improving its HMS mobile phone ecosystem, in order to replace GMS in extreme cases and ensure the continuity of the mobile phone business. Huawei not only invested heavily, but also introduced a series of policies to encourage localized application development around the world in order to attract developers to the HMS ecosystem. At the same time, Huawei also organized the Songshan Lake Conference and completed the basic HMS ecology in just a few months.
At present, the number of registered developers in the HMS eco-system has reached 1.8 million worldwide, nearly double the 910,000 during last year's developer conference; the number of apps integrated with HMS Core has reached 96,000 worldwide, more than doubling; the number of overseas high-quality apps on Huawei's app marketplace (AppGallery) has increased from 6,000 last year to 73,000, AppGallery Has become the world's Top 3 app store, from January to August this year, a cumulative total of 261 billion times worldwide distribution of applications, helping different countries and regions of fine applications have the opportunity to reach 700 million Huawei users around the world.
In China, HMS is incomplete without WeChat adaptation. During the construction of HMS, many users are worried about BAT's attitude and whether it is willing to enter the HMS ecology.
In fact, to enter the HMS ecology is also conducive to the development of domestic mobile network application companies, can use HMS as their spare tire, this spare tire for the domestic Xiaomi, OPPP, Vivo and other mobile phone manufacturers of greater significance, and the final complete spare tire is the combination of Hong Meng and HMS.
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Thanks for sharing valuable information