Hey there,
I pre-ordered the Mate 10pro which will arrive in about two weeks here in Germany. Now there are some leaks of the Honor V10 which will be presented on December 5th and will be available probably early in 2018.
The specs seem to be very similar, especially the AI enhanced processor - so my question is:
What is the big difference, what will I lose when I take the V10 instead?
might as well wait a few more weeks. Imagine finding out after you bought a M10P only to find out something just as impressive at a third of the price. only 4 weeks to go.
Dito13 said:
Hey there,
I pre-ordered the Mate 10pro which will arrive in about two weeks here in Germany. Now there are some leaks of the Honor V10 which will be presented on December 5th and will be available probably early in 2018.
The specs seem to be very similar, especially the AI enhanced processor - so my question is:
What is the big difference, what will I lose when I take the V10 instead?
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With the bezeless 18:9 ratio and front fp, the v10 has caught my curiosity as well what they have to offer. Also on the lookout if there will be a Honor Magic, 2nd edition.
That said, no honor phones were on the Mate 9 pro level last year or even standard Mate 9. So i expect the same to be the case here as well. No reason to be disappointed unless your buying the Mate 10 pro with a heavy sigh over its price. Honor phones tick the main boxes like ram and same processor, but tend to cut corners were it is less of a highlight like for example getting a lesser quality display, lesser premium build although a catchy design, weaker audio or loudspeaker, no earphones included and so on. Honor 8 pro currently sold at 475£, so a 64gb V10 should be about 500£.
You also have to wait more for it (time = money) and by the time it releases outside China we get Huawei P11 series ready for launch. And then 2 months after that you get the Honor 10 launched, and so on. Its a never ending game. The timing looks like its launched to compete the Oneplus 5T, so not far fetched to expect the Honor V10 to launch in a particular market close to the OnePlus5T launch.
The main difference will likely be cameras.
If Honor v10 camera dont have OIS, go for mate 10. Other specs will probably the same with mate 10 with usually Honor design a bit better. Better wait for it, maybe can save a lot of money.
Sent from my Honor 8 Pro using XDA Labs
warea said:
With the bezeless 18:9 ratio and front fp, the v10 has caught my curiosity as well what they have to offer. Also on the lookout if there will be a Honor Magic, 2nd edition.
That said, no honor phones were on the Mate 9 pro level last year or even standard Mate 9. So i expect the same to be the case here as well. No reason to be disappointed unless your buying the Mate 10 pro with a heavy sigh over its price. Honor phones tick the main boxes like ram and same processor, but tend to cut corners were it is less of a highlight like for example getting a lesser quality display, lesser premium build although a catchy design, weaker audio or loudspeaker, no earphones included and so on. Honor 8 pro currently sold at 475£, so a 64gb V10 should be about 500£.
You also have to wait more for it (time = money) and by the time it releases outside China we get Huawei P11 series ready for launch. And then 2 months after that you get the Honor 10 launched, and so on. Its a never ending game. The timing looks like its launched to compete the Oneplus 5T, so not far fetched to expect the Honor V10 to launch in a particular market close to the OnePlus5T launch.
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That's not essentially true. The Honor V9 was on a par with the Mate 9 Pro, except for the camera. The V9 was better than the Mate 9 having higher resolution screen. The UK version - the Honor 8 Pro was the same, just only came with 64GB internal space.
I must admit I was annoyed after buying my Mate 10 only to see the Honor V10 announced with largely the same specs, but much lower cost!
white43 said:
That's not essentially true. The Honor V9 was on a par with the Mate 9 Pro, except for the camera. The V9 was better than the Mate 9 having higher resolution screen. The UK version - the Honor 8 Pro was the same, just only came with 64GB internal space.
I must admit I was annoyed after buying my Mate 10 only to see the Honor V10 announced with largely the same specs, but much lower cost!
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Honor 8 pro released 4 months after Mate 9 and had the older generation dual 12mp Lecia camera with that iphonish design.
And the other aspect was that, at least in the middle east market the difference between Honor and Huawei was not that large as was the case in China. Out here, it was a difference of 50$ at best. Weirdly the Honor 9 is even costlier than the Huawei P10 and priced as much as Mate 9, see: https://store.hihonor.com/ae/index.php/honor/smartphones).
Whatever the case with V10 whether it makes the Mate 10 series obsolete/overpriced or not, we will know soon.
warea said:
Honor 8 pro released 4 months after Mate 9 and had the older generation dual 12mp Lecia camera with that iphonish design.
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The same as the V9? That was only 3 months behind it. So in essence, a cheaper Honor phone follows with largely the same specs and about 2/3 the price.
Don't get me wrong - I selected the Mate Pro 9 over the V9 - but if you can't afford the top line Huawei phones, then just wait. In this case, the V10 is not far behind and way better than the Mate 10 Lite.
white43 said:
In this case, the V10 is not far behind and way better than the Mate 10 Lite.
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This part no doubt i agree, if people have real issue with price of Mate 10 series or any other Huawei phones, than you can wait for the Honor phones as that is exactly what the Honor brand addresses with their line of phones.
warea said:
Honor 8 pro released 4 months after Mate 9 and had the older generation dual 12mp Lecia camera with that iphonish design.
And the other aspect was that, at least in the middle east market the difference between Honor and Huawei was not that large as was the case in China. Out here, it was a difference of 50$ at best. Weirdly the Honor 9 is even costlier than the Huawei P10 and priced as much as Mate 9, see: https://store.hihonor.com/ae/index.php/honor/smartphones).
Whatever the case with V10 whether it makes the Mate 10 series obsolete/overpriced or not, we will know soon.
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I've been using P9, Honor 9 and Mate 10,
All i can say is that, this Leica name tag on Mate and P series is not for nothing,
Although Honor camera is no slouch either, but in terms of image processing, P and Mate series are clear winner,
Not to mention that Honor series normally remove OIS from its cam to save price.
honor series are non leica....cmiiw
bocaheror said:
honor series are non leica....cmiiw
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Yes, already mentioned.
V10 teaser is about AI
https://weibo.com/2554757470/FuVjQ6deS?refer_flag=1001030103_&type=comment
But i suspect, most of the AI functions would be like the case of Honor Magic that it functions only in China.
It'd have the Kirin 970 chipset eitherway
Thank you all guys for the interesting discussion! I guess I will check out the M10P first. I ordered it via Amazon so I can return it for 30 days.
What are your impressions concerning community support for Honor vs. Huawei here on XDA (custom ROMs, mods, root etc.)?
On other thought is that afaik Honor phones often have a much higher Sar value.
Grrr. The presentation in London was just about the 7x, not the V10 a.k.a. the Honor 9 pro.
This will likely be presented on January 7th...
Dito13 said:
Hey there,
I pre-ordered the Mate 10pro which will arrive in about two weeks here in Germany. Now there are some leaks of the Honor V10 which will be presented on December 5th and will be available probably early in 2018.
The specs seem to be very similar, especially the AI enhanced processor - so my question is:
What is the big difference, what will I lose when I take the V10 instead?
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Différences are :
- LCD Screen for honor 10
- Camera in low brightness
- Phone material
Are mate 10 pro and ni pro will get face unlock? Like v10
Huawei Mate 10
V10 this time is totally different from both Mate 10 series. Only similarity is the Kirin 970 chipset. Otherwise its specs is such that it is different from both Mate 10 and Mate 10 pro. IPS FHD+ 18:9 screen with front fp, older design language, slimmer with smaller battery, different camera specs for front and rear camera, headphone jack and memory expansion slot.
Hi, I need a new phone (mi Huawei G8 is about to die), but I'm undecided if I should buy the P20 Lite or the Samsung A8. A8 is $458.90, P20 Lite is $287.69 in my country, in the cheappey store. Most other stores add anywhere from $100-$200 to those prices). What would you recommend? (S8 is still $591.27 here, in case you would suggest its price is close to A8 ) Besides, we don't get Oppo, Honor, or other brands like that, again, just in case someone would recommendate one of those). Thanks!!!
P20... The A8 is better but is not worth the extra $170
jm98 said:
P20... The A8 is better but is not worth the extra $170
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Totally agree on this
Hello all,
I know this may be a broad question but thought I'd give it a shot nontheless...
I have an Honor 8 which (supposedly?) is getting Oreo in the coming weeks. I've been looking at some mid-range budget phones, primarily P20 and P20 lite. I'm leaing towards lite though cus of it's 3.5mm jack.
Anyway, Honor 8 still seems to be a great phone. Is the upgrade justified with P20 lite? Does is have all the fancy AI-camera-stuff? Can the back-button (fingerprint reader) be physically clicked? Or should I just expect more of the same, just a tad better... Any feedback is appreciated.
Hi guys. I have mi9 64gb and it's very good phone in all categories but the 64gb fills too fast..
I'm thinking to switch to mate 20 pro (I had mate 10 pro for 6 months)
Is it worth?
What u recommend me to do?
Thx.
The power of the Mi 9 be with you
i had a mi9 too and compared with my mate 20 pro - no chance.
accu was down in less a day and the camera is overhyped - maybe with a good google camera port its possible to improve the quality but compared with the mate 20 - no chance
concerning the accu, i think i had a bad device, without sim card and without any connection, just in standby the phone lost 20% battery in 2 hours.
i selled the device because i can'f find the issue AND i'm a xiaomi fanboy.
sorry but i'm done with the mi9, the mi8 from my girlfriend is a super phone and just for my feelings - the camera of the mi8 is better as the mi9 (due to optical image stabilization)
since the mi9 was tested in dxomark and i had the chance to compare these two device i know dxomark is very very subjective.
I like Xiaomi phones and prefer MIUI to EMUI but in terms of hardware and camera quality Xiaomi doesn't have anything comparable to M20P yet.
johnnyman25 said:
Hi guys. I have mi9 64gb and it's very good phone in all categories but the 64gb fills too fast..
I'm thinking to switch to mate 20 pro (I had mate 10 pro for 6 months)
Is it worth?
What u recommend me to do?
Thx.
The power of the Mi 9 be with you
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If you are in rooting and stuff you will be disappointed with the mate 20 pro, bootloader unlock code costs money ranging from $20 to $50 may be more and that's only if the servers are up and running, like atm the service is dead.
vtec303 said:
If you are in rooting and stuff you will be disappointed with the mate 20 pro, bootloader unlock code costs money ranging from $20 to $50 may be more and that's only if the servers are up and running, like atm the service is dead.
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If you're into that kind of thing it doesn't really make sense to buy Xiaomi or Huawei phones since neither company is developer friendly and there doesn't tend to be much development for either company's phones--and whatever development there is for Xiaomi phones tends to be for their Redmi devices since those sell in the largest numbers.
The XDA development threads for both the M20P and MI 9 are pretty empty.
Hardware mate 20 pro... Software mi9
So if u want a phone with a better camera, speakers, display, battery life, network strength etc then get a mate 20, it's even better than p30 pro (honestly this phone is wack and just a marketing and dishonest reviewers hype).
If u are one of the ones (like me) who just appreciate the software experience, animations, better themes then get anything else including mi9 ... Right now the Samsung oneUI is the best skin out there but miui is awesome as well