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I thought this may be of some help to folks out there.
I have been getting terrible data speeds in my area and have finally searched enough threads to find a fix for this. This fix involves using Verizon &/OR US Cellular towers and bypassing Sprint's towers. I spoke with the Sprint rep & according to him, IF YOU GO OVER 300MB OF DATA YOU WILL BE CHARGED UP TO $75. If you are on WIFI the majority of the time but need faster 3G at certain times, this is the perfect solution.
This fix does change the PRL in your phone to Verizon &/OR US Cellular towers which means you will be using your anytime minutes when making calls. If you do not have a nationwide plan, you will also be charged roaming fees. CHECK WITH SPRINT BEFORE DOING THIS OR YOUR BILL WILL BE OUT OF THIS WORLD!!!!
The guide that Gothir posted HERE is a very good walkthrough.
The HTC Diag Drivers for Windows 7 are HERE
QPST is HERE
Verizon PRL is HERE (Credit goes to Techknowfile)
US Cellular PRL is HERE (Download 15056)
Follow Gothir's walkthrough after all these are installed/downloaded. There is one option that will force roaming on the QPST that Gothir did not mention. This is under SYSTEM>Preferred MODE. Change the Preferred Mode to Affiliates only. This will force roam and bypass Sprint Towers. I use this because my 3g speeds are about 100kbps in my area while on Sprint towers.
Credit goes to those above. Good luck 3D owners!
I just got mine today and so far im very happy. The pentile display isn't at all noticeable (and im pretty nit picky). The rep did say that it appears that they've improved the screen on newer stock. I timed my purchase so that if the epic 4g touch (galaxy s 2) comes out next month as is expected then i should still be in the 30 day return policy.
On another note, i found out today that apparently sprint is switching to or adding a 4g LTE network. Not sure if this will replace wimax or supplement it. So far I've heard this from three different sprint employees who i know and trust.
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jdverley said:
On another note, i found out today that apparently sprint is switching to or adding a 4g LTE network. Not sure if this will replace wimax or supplement it. So far I've heard this from three different sprint employees who i know and trust.
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Sorry not trying to be mean or anything but that's not news. It's been reported for a while now.
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inimitableac said:
Sorry not trying to be mean or anything but that's not news. It's been reported for a while now.
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Yeah Sprint signed a deal to install LTE, and since Sprint has stopped with their Wimax installs I would say that they are switching gears and going to LTE instead of Wimax. From what the network engineers have told me, its a simple software upgrade so I'm hoping my new Photon will not be obsolete.
I'm not 100% on a simple software upgrade but after LTE is put up wimax will still be around for a year or 2 after the fact so we won't be obsolete for that time frame...
If you are close to upgrading now, you shouldn't wait it will be awhile before they start releasing phones for LTE,
I work for sprint and we have got newsletters that Dan Hesse will announce our 4g lte plans in october.
Lightsquare is the company sprint signed the deal with
And more than that it will be a while before there is a wide LTE deployment anywhere but a major city. LTE isn't going to be a serious factor for most sprint customers for two years at least.
(I live in a city with one million people in the metro area and we still don't have WiMAX... I'm not holding my breath for 4g service anytime soon.)
One thing to keep in mind, is that Sprint could very well continue to make use of WiMAX alongside of LTE technology. WiMAX is PURELY for data, whereas LTE is used for both. There is no reason why LTE has to necessarily replace WiMAX.
predwing said:
Yeah Sprint signed a deal to install LTE, and since Sprint has stopped with their Wimax installs I would say that they are switching gears and going to LTE instead of Wimax. From what the network engineers have told me, its a simple software upgrade so I'm hoping my new Photon will not be obsolete.
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From my understanding it's not just a simple sofware upgrade for phones. The Photon doesn't have the LTE radios installed to receive the signal.
VDub2174 said:
From my understanding it's not just a simple sofware upgrade for phones. The Photon doesn't have the LTE radios installed to receive the signal.
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But from what I have read and have been corrected in another thread the LTE will be on 3 different spectrum's not just one like Verizon. There is some website that shows the hardware differences and stuff and in there is info on how they will implement LTE.
Snippet from http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219837
Currently, Sprint/Nextel/Clear has three different protocols on three different spectrum bands distibuted on 82,000 towers. By comparison, Verizon and AT&T have about 40,000 towers each. Network Vision will reduce the number of towers to around 45,000 to 50,000 towers, while setting up the remaining towers to handle all three spectrum bands (800 MHz, 1.9 GHz, and 2.5 GHz) and any protocol (CDMA, Wimax, LTE, etc). This will provide Sprint with substantial savings in maintenance costs.
No WiMax yet
In Omaha we don't even have WiMax yet, does this mean we never will and the Photon will never be more than a 3G phone?
I'm a.happy e3d owner but knowing that the photon is a world phone with gsm radios on top of cdma I have a question..now that you guys have an unlocked bootloader (congratulations) do you think its possible that the photon will be able to run on t mobile or at&t LTE bands or at least hspa+ That would be pretty sick knowing that Wimax on sprint is.pretty useless at least for me...
I'm a Sprint Product Launch Ambassador for the Photon 4G and a corporate Sprint Technician.
The Network is upgradable, but the phones are not. Choose to upgrade today and I'll bet you a fiver you'll be up for upgrade again by the time LTE is actually flipped on.
The Network Vision equipment is so modular, that multiple technologies can be run in one single Base Station. Easy to upgrade, switch out, and plenty of slots to run LTE + Wimax concurrently.
I highly doubt our network engineers are going to get a mandate that states shut down Wimax on X day, and leave all users out in the cold with those devices. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It will be just like the current migration of Iden, those who choose to move over to CDMA on their next upgrade can do so, those who choose not to (that NEED PTT as a requirement) will have the option to use the new Direct Connect Network when they are ready to upgrade phones later...as it's easier to just drop the Iden line of Phones and carry the next gen CDMA Nextel line in it's place for upgraders to choose from. Something that will give us a 2 year buffer for those clinging to the PTT service as a must before it's shut down completely...but by then, no one will have not had the opportunity during an upgrade to choose CDMA totally or the new CDMA PTT services.
So, that means those cities that don't already have WiMax will still get it on schedule in spite of the move to LTE?
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
dustbuckets said:
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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You really shouldn't let 4g be the deciding factor. I have 4g where I live and I don't even use it once a month. 4g is a battery hog. Besides even if it wasn't and you were putting 4g to good use on Verizon your bill would be through the roof.
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Switch to verizon if you want to pay $80 a month for 10 gigs of data.
dustbuckets said:
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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dustbuckets said:
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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I can count on my thumb how many times I have switched on 4G on my Photon the last two weeks.
Does anyone know or want to work on getting a verizon phone to work on a sprint airave?
Basically my wife has sprint and I was able to talk retentions into giving me a free airave. Thought my verizon thunderbolt might pick it up and work but doesn't seem to ... So what do you guys think?
Model: airave airvana hubbub c1-600-rt
Thanks
Lifetrip718 said:
Does anyone know or want to work on getting a verizon phone to work on a sprint airave?
Basically my wife has sprint and I was able to talk retentions into giving me a free airave. Thought my verizon thunderbolt might pick it up and work but doesn't seem to ... So what do you guys think?
Model: airave airvana hubbub c1-600-rt
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Are you already running your Tbolt on Sprint?
No can I? ... I didn't think I could ... I was just thinking of roaming to it but if I can get my tbolt on sprint that would be cool too ...
Lifetrip718 said:
No can I? ... I didn't think I could ... I was just thinking of roaming to it but if I can get my tbolt on sprint that would be cool too ...
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Verizon next to never uses Sprint towers for roaming, and would ONLY do so were there not a Verizon service. Sprint doesn't have the ability to authenticate an LTE device for data.
loonatik78 said:
Verizon next to never uses Sprint towers for roaming, and would ONLY do so were there not a Verizon service. Sprint doesn't have the ability to authenticate an LTE device for data.
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Not true (at least the part not about LTE).
Sprint and Verizon Wireless have a reciprocal data roaming agreement[18] that even allows for the use of Sprint Power Vision content like TV, movie downloads, and stream radio in Verizon 1x coverage areas.
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On May 9, 2006, Sprint Nextel and Alltel agreed on a new Nationwide Roaming partnership.[16][17] The new roaming agreement is for both voice, 1x & EV-DO data roaming coverage. This new partnership is different from voice only roaming agreement between Alltel & Verizon Wireless in that it is reciprocal, giving Alltel customers access to Sprint 1x & EV-DO network, and Sprint customers access to Alltel denser rural 1x & EV-DO voice and data coverage. This agreement represents the first of its kind between U.S. wireless carriers. Although Alltel merged with Verizon Wireless in 2008, one of the conditions of the merger was that Verizon will honor all pre-existing agreements between Alltel and other companies. The roaming reciprocity agreement between Alltel and Sprint is set to expire in 2016.
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...reement&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera
http://androidforums.com/sprint/89817-sprints-roaming-contract-verizon.html
http://www.google.com/search?client...c.r_pw.&fp=8f5ffefd244fa52c&biw=1557&bih=1010
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Not true (at least the part not about LTE).
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...reement&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera
http://androidforums.com/sprint/89817-sprints-roaming-contract-verizon.html
http://www.google.com/search?client...c.r_pw.&fp=8f5ffefd244fa52c&biw=1557&bih=1010
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I was under the belief that even getting a dInc to work right on Sprint took decent effort. As for the reciprocal agreement, Alltel's network was simply MASSIVE, geographically speaking, to the tune almost completely covering 34 midwestern and plains states. No other carrier even came close to covering the square miles Alltel did. A driving force for Verizon purchasing Alltel had to do with the hundreds of millions of dollars they were forking over to Alltel to float Verizon users. Alltel lacked coverage within large cities, but thrived in medium and small towns. To remedy this deficiency, Alltel developed cooperative agreements with Sprint, USCellular, and Verizon to carry their customers in big cities. But without Alltel, Sprint and Verizon would have been SOL when it came to providing the roaming coverage they do.
Since the Alltel acquisition, Verizon overshadows a good portion of what Sprint currently does, which is why I say it would be almost never that Sprint would carry a Verizon customer.
For the record, I'm NOT at all a fan of the Verizon purchase of Alltel. I think Alltel's existence offered something that was unique to the market, didn't play favorites, had excellent customer support and pricing, and ran a highly competitive network even if their devices tended to be sub-par next to Verizon's and AT&T's stable of devices. It's VERY irritating to pay Verizon for what I got for a lot less or free from Alltel.
I am wondering if there is a prl to flash for the evo 3d, sprint network is terrible arround here, I am currently using the verizon prl, although better, not as good as US Cellular in my area, expecially at work.
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GGerk said:
I am wondering if there is a prl to flash for the evo 3d, sprint network is terrible arround here, I am currently using the verizon prl, although better, not as good as US Cellular in my area, expecially at work.
Thanks in advance
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No I don't think anyone has made one of those. Is us cellular a cdma network? Have you tried the 1337, or 3137(can't remember if this is correct but it does start with a3). Or maybe even that sprint business PRL 1115 I think it is.
The Sprint business PRL (11115) only allows for roaming on Verizon I believe. I don't believe they have any roaming agreement with US Cellular, unfortunately.
I tried the 115000 and it didn't work as well as the 00001
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The Sprint business PRL (11115) only allows for roaming on Verizon I believe. I don't believe they have any roaming agreement with US Cellular, unfortunately.
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I checked into it, and one of sprints reciprocal roaming agreements is with us cellular. However the agreement is only for voice and 1xrtt, but no 3G. We could find out all the roaming agreements if someone put their sprint PRL into one of the PRL decoders floating around out there.
GGerk said:
I tried the 115000 and it didn't work as well as the 00001
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Yeah, that would make sense. 01 is a custom PRL, and its targets are to force roaming on to Verizon towers. 15 is a PRL encoded by sprint for business customers. Its main target is sprint towers, but directs the antenna to Verizon towers, and all the other company's that sprint has roaming agreements for. It only does the roaming though if it can't find a sprint tower. Also with 15 it will settle for roaming towers that only have 1xrtt, as opposed to the custom PRLs that aim for Verizon 3G towers whenever possible.
Try out the other 2 PRL
there is 01337 and 31337 PRLs. I have yet to test the 31337 but 01337 works well. 00001 targets Verizon towers by default before Sprint, and if that one doesnt help you much I dont think 01337 will either as it is just a modified 00001. 11115 Wont help either as you still have some Sprint service so it still defaults to that network.
Here are 3 US Cellular PRL files for you to try:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EFOKA16L
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O6JINILZ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9W7K02BI
15096 allows 3G roaming. Enjoy
Is it safe to install prl 15096? I have an EVO 3d with free roaming
sorry havent checked back in a while, I will give all 3 a try
Thanks
I just want to know if I'm gonna get extra charges from sprint if I use those 3 prls
mrjaydee82 said:
I just want to know if I'm gonna get extra charges from sprint if I use those 3 prls
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First off, it is too dangerous to use any of these unless you have a plan with unlimited roaming. However even so sprint has gotten very sneaky. They have advertised unlimited roaming, but just like their unlimited data if you do too much [voice or data roaming], or a majority of your usage is roaming [even if you barely use any] your contract states in fine print that they can terminate service. Now so long as you aren't tethering a ton, or using lots of data they don't seem to mind, but if you do they send you a warning, if it persists they terminate you. You should not get charged ever with the plan you have, and you shouldn't get terminated unless you hog data. Hogging data on sprint is bad enough but hogging data on Verizon via roaming is very wrong. They won't terminate you unless you are abusive, so I hope you have nothing to worry about.
Since Megaupload is down could you please repost the prls
Thanks
Check THIS thread. A guy here on XDA is testing all sorts of different PRL methods. Hope it helps!
GGerk said:
Since Megaupload is down could you please repost the prls
Thanks
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Here is 15094 and 15096. My roommate has u.s. cell and his prl is 15114 im gonna try to pull it later...
gunfromsako said:
Here is 15094 and 15096. My roommate has u.s. cell and his prl is 15114 im gonna try to pull it later...
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I have been searching for an EVDO US Cellular PRL for around a year now, and have never found one. I tried yours, and they work. How do you go about extracting them from a phone? I've never been able to figure that out. I really needed this since most of the places my Sprint phone roams in have little to none Verizon coverage, while there's perfect US Cellular 3G.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I have been searching for an EVDO US Cellular PRL for around a year now, and have never found one. I tried yours, and they work. How do you go about extracting them from a phone? I've never been able to figure that out. I really needed this since most of the places my Sprint phone roams in have little to none Verizon coverage, while there's perfect US Cellular 3G.
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Well it depends on what brand of phone you have. The ultimate goal is get into diag mode and from there you can use QPST or DFS to pull the prl.
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I've seen a few posts saying you can cross flash so you can move your v60 from t-mobile to att. However none of them are very clear.
I am going to have to switch from t-mobile to att as t-mobile shut down the sprint network in an area I need to be with some regularity and now has near zero coverage. Their wifi calling doesn't work well either as it registers very slowly and doesn't stay registered.
I've waited over a year for t-mobile to deliver promised coverage replacements.
It's becoming more and more a problem as I need to be in the area more often. Would appreciate any details anyone can offer. I don't want to give up my v60 yet or have to buy one.
You will it informative. But please be advised that there is no firmware available for AT&T V60. So it is not possible unless your phone is factory unlocked by carrier.
You can't unless you don't mind it being a data-only device (and I can't guarantee even that will work). AT&T has a VERY select list (I believe this is by IMEI so cross-flashing will not help) of phones they allow to use VoLTE on their network. Other carriers' phones are not among them. You MIGHT be able to beg/harass customer service to whitelist your IMEI. I think I've read about that happening, but I might be thinking of Verizon. I wouldn't count on it though. AT&T has a vested interest in making you buy a phone you can't use anywhere else. They're not interested in BYOP mercenaries who want to try out their service for a month then bounce back to TMO or Verizon.
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You can't unless you don't mind it being a data-only device (and I can't guarantee even that will work). AT&T has a VERY select list (I believe this is by IMEI so cross-flashing will not help) of phones they allow to use VoLTE on their network. Other carriers' phones are not among them. You MIGHT be able to beg/harass customer service to whitelist your IMEI. I think I've read about that happening, but I might be thinking of Verizon. I wouldn't count on it though. AT&T has a vested interest in making you buy a phone you can't use anywhere else. They're not interested in BYOP mercenaries who want to try out their service for a month then bounce back to TMO or Verizon.
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Sure,you can crossflash the T-Mobile version with AT&T firmware regardless of the IMEI and it will work.I'm on A12 AT&T with a USC V60 and have no issues at all.It will be required to have the AT&T firmware on it for the IMS to configure properly.I did this back when AT&T shut their 3g down to work around it.
Arghtastic said:
I've seen a few posts saying you can cross flash so you can move your v60 from t-mobile to att. However none of them are very clear.
I am going to have to switch from t-mobile to att as t-mobile shut down the sprint network in an area I need to be with some regularity and now has near zero coverage. Their wifi calling doesn't work well either as it registers very slowly and doesn't stay registered.
I've waited over a year for t-mobile to deliver promised coverage replacements.
It's becoming more and more a problem as I need to be in the area more often. Would appreciate any details anyone can offer. I don't want to give up my v60 yet or have to buy one.
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The key thing,does AT&T work in that area?AT&T and T-Mobile are currently struggling trying to get 5g fully working in all areas and so far it's been a nightmare.I'm in Nashville,TN. and it's horrible in most areas.Even down to the 4g towers are degraded and data speeds are back to 3g speeds as we speak.It's not only T-Mobile at the moment.
Where did you get the AT&T firmware? And the process to cross flash?
Royaltiger said:
Where did you get the AT&T firmware? And the process to cross flash?
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This is 20q A11.I used QCFire and unchecked sid_a and sid_b.Works great!
LMV600AM Restore/Ugrade Guide
This restore process is intended for the AT&T V60 (lmv600am) model and will WIPE your data so back it up if you want to keep it! This process will restore the lmv600am to original factory state for the AT&T v60 v20q build (a11). I’ve dumped all...
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Surgemanxx said:
The key thing,does AT&T work in that area?AT&T and T-Mobile are currently struggling trying to get 5g fully working in all areas and so far it's been a nightmare.I'm in Nashville,TN. and it's horrible in most areas.Even down to the 4g towers are degraded and data speeds are back to 3g speeds as we speak.It's not only T-Mobile at the moment.
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Yes att works. No its not 5g in either case. Too rural. T-mobile for example replaced more rhan half a dozen towers for one town in the area with two. Two. Then wondered why people had no coverage.
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Yes att works. No its not 5g in either case. Too rural. T-mobile for example replaced more rhan half a dozen towers for one town in the area with two. Two. Then wondered why people had no coverage.
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I have been on AT&T for almost a month about how bad the service is around my home address.We have 1 tower in about a 10 mile radius that's trying to serve at least 10,000 subscribers every day and it's failing hard.I'm doing good to get 4 mbps down and .5 up.Yes,that's a dot in front of the 5..lol..I told them point blank,why shut down 3g when you can't even handle the load with 4g alone?My response was, "we're working on 2 towers that are planned to be upgraded to 5g by the end of the year."Those 2 towers haven't worked in 8 years I know of..lol...I remember when they activated 4g and it wasn't this bad.The worst part in the US we're down to 3 carriers period.T-Mobile,AT&T,and Verizon.The rest are all MVNO's so those don't account for anything..lol..
Surgemanxx said:
I have been on AT&T for almost a month about how bad the service is around my home address.We have 1 tower in about a 10 mile radius that's trying to serve at least 10,000 subscribers every day and it's failing hard.I'm doing good to get 4 mbps down and .5 up.Yes,that's a dot in front of the 5..lol..I told them point blank,why shut down 3g when you can't even handle the load with 4g alone?My response was, "we're working on 2 towers that are planned to be upgraded to 5g by the end of the year."Those 2 towers haven't worked in 8 years I know of..lol...I remember when they activated 4g and it wasn't this bad.The worst part in the US we're down to 3 carriers period.T-Mobile,AT&T,and Verizon.The rest are all MVNO's so those don't account for anything..lol..
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Tried a signal booster? I used to run a 3 watt (max legal) and it made service possible. Also If you have wifi/internet you may be able to request a microcel from ATT for free
Arghtastic said:
Tried a signal booster? I used to run a 3 watt (max legal) and it made service possible. Also If you have wifi/internet you may be able to request a microcel from ATT for free
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I'm working on a booster as we speak.It's become horrible the last couple of months,and all this 3g shut down crap.I have even down to started switching modem files on my LG devices in hopes it may help some.Time will tell..lol..