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hello to all
been a while this might sound like a dumb question but after doing a bit of reading. it states i can root my s5 on tmobile and not trip the knox.???
and the only way to trip the knox is by installing a different rom or kernel.??? i just finance this phone tru tmobile and don't want to trip the knox in case in 6months i want to do the jump to a different phone if this one don't work out.and if that is the case which root program do i use. thanks
1iwilly said:
hello to all
been a while this might sound like a dumb question but after doing a bit of reading. it states i can root my s5 on tmobile and not trip the knox.???
and the only way to trip the knox is by installing a different rom or kernel.??? i just finance this phone tru tmobile and don't want to trip the knox in case in 6months i want to do the jump to a different phone if this one don't work out.and if that is the case which root program do i use. thanks
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You WILL trip knox when you root. There is no way around it at this time.
ok thanks
aooga said:
You WILL trip knox when you root. There is no way around it at this time.
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I just received my S6E and I know I read earlier that CF noted that rooting may trip KNOX and disable the mobile payment system. Has anyone been able to verify whether or not this is actually the case? I'd love to root my phone, if for no other reason but to get Titanium up and running but I really would like to keep the mobile payment system intact. Thanks in advance.
Update: I have trouble reading sometimes and didn't realize/remember that Samsung Pay won't be available until later this summer. However, if anyone does come across any additional information related to this, I would be happy to hear about it.
Yes, unfortunatelly rooting your s6/s6 edge may disable the phone’s ability to use samsung pay, so be carefull.
Chainfire said:
Before actually rooting though, consider that KNOX will likely be tripped, and there's a good chance untripped KNOX will be required for phone based payments.
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Webster259 said:
I just received my S6E and I know I read earlier that CF noted that rooting may trip KNOX and disable the mobile payment system. Has anyone been able to verify whether or not this is actually the case? I'd love to root my phone, if for no other reason but to get Titanium up and running but I really would like to keep the mobile payment system intact. Thanks in advance.
Update: I have trouble reading sometimes and didn't realize/remember that Samsung Pay won't be available until later this summer. However, if anyone does come across any additional information related to this, I would be happy to hear about it.
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I'm curious to know this too. I ALWAYS root my Android phones especially for Adblocker and even more importantly Greenify. I'm worried tripping the Knox sensor will make it so I can't use Samsung Pay and I'd really like to use that, especially since it even works with magnetic readers! I'm worried that since SP won't launch until the Summer that no one will truly know what effect, if any, tripping the Knox sensor will have. I'm going to hold off on rooting for now, as tough as I KNOW that will be LOL.
Yeah sucks but I'm. Holing off too. I mainly root for custom roms and kernel... But do far the phone is managing well so. I can definitely hold off
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Considering that I can't stay without:
Titanium Backup Pro
AdBlock Plus for Android (without having to do stuff manually)
Xposed Framework
Unlocked Tethering
And who know what else!
I will definitely root and who cares if I won't be able to use Samsung Pay!
There are still other payment system coming out or already existing!
I haven't rooted because of Samsung Pay and also because we'll I mainly. Root. For custom recoveries and roms which none are available as the device isn't widely available
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So, i have S6 edge 925f with original rom, no rooted.
But i found myself struggling btw poor performance of original rom, waiting forever for new updates and other side: Samsung Pay.
The only reason that i didnt root/flash my phone is because i want use samsung pay, so my question is Google Pay gonna be something similar as samsung pay ? if so i can happily break ehem, flash my phone, for better use.
synlems said:
So, i have S6 edge 925f with original rom, no rooted.
But i found myself struggling btw poor performance of original rom, waiting forever for new updates and other side: Samsung Pay.
The only reason that i didnt root/flash my phone is because i want use samsung pay, so my question is Google Pay gonna be something similar as samsung pay ? if so i can happily break ehem, flash my phone, for better use.
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Google Pay will not utilize the proprietary technology used in samsung pay, it will be NFC only. As far as history is concerned, you will not be able to use it if you're rooted. I don't think it will check knox 0x1 though
I've found the link to be able to download the Samsung Pay Beta .apk file but I haven't figured out how to get it to install. Does someone else want to try? I'm stuck on a Samsung S6 Edge running 5.0.2. I wonder if you have to have 5.1.1 to run it.
Korea Link - https://kr.mpay.samsung.com/apk
US Link - https://us.mpay.samsung.com/apk
Here's a download link for the Samsung Pay .apk file I found on the Korean link. It lets me install it on my Samsung S6 Edge+ running android 5.1.1.
https://mega.nz/#!cRFkUAhT!8h7kOQ8opFy3YWal7xgw68EByv6dOsgepURGy9C005E
polish_pat said:
Google Pay will not utilize the proprietary technology used in samsung pay, it will be NFC only. As far as history is concerned, you will not be able to use it if you're rooted. I don't think it will check knox 0x1 though
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I heard that Samsung pat will work as long as knox stays 0x0; root by itself will not disable it. You seem to have the opposite opinion.
Snowby123 said:
I heard that Samsung pat will work as long as knox stays 0x0; root by itself will not disable it. You seem to have the opposite opinion.
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It's just speculation made over a month ago. It's now confirmed that it will work as long as knox is intact
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hopkinsdn said:
It seems Samsung has created a hotline in the U.S for testers. +1-844-726-7297
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I called today and they told me to download the Samsung Plus app from the Google playstore. I downloaded it agreed to the terms and logged in and then inside the app there was a link that said "Join Samsung Pay Beta". So far it doesn't do anything, but it seems promising that it might work tomorrow after the beta has officially begun.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.oh
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Hello to all, i want to root my device, but it seems impossible. I have firmware version G925FXXU3COI9 ...
I've seen Pingpong root and my firmware version is not supported...
I've seen CF Auto Root and i didn't try, because i don't want to trip Knox for the warranty....
I've seen also this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...lkit-skipsoft-android-toolkit-galaxy-t3101195 but it don't speak about tripping Knox (so this method i think will trip it? )
Do you have some idea to work it out ? I'm going mad
I don't see a reason why you don't want to trip Knox. It's good for nothing, doesn't have anything to do with warranty (as long as your problem comes from something that's not caused by rooting/flashing etc) and is only useless stuff.
Zulake said:
I don't see a reason why you don't want to trip Knox. It's good for nothing, doesn't have anything to do with warranty (as long as your problem comes from something that's not caused by rooting/flashing etc) and is only useless stuff.
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Samsung Pay?
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Samsung Pay?
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Haven't seen any place to use that so far. Heck, nothing is using it. Not in the Netherlands that is.
Doesn't really matter for me anyway, my bankcard itself has NFC inside so contactless paying is already possible.
Zulake said:
I don't see a reason why you don't want to trip Knox. It's good for nothing, doesn't have anything to do with warranty (as long as your problem comes from something that's not caused by rooting/flashing etc) and is only useless stuff.
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What ? Why you say doesn't have anything to do with warranty ? How you can know if a problem comes or not by a rooting / flashing ? You can't know for ALL the problems...and as long as i know, Knox is always checked when you go to Samsung assistance.
Lan3y said:
Samsung Pay?
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Also for this thing . And also for Android pay. But i think you can use it with root . Maybe. I think you cannot use it if you flash a custom rom .
Zulake said:
Haven't seen any place to use that so far. Heck, nothing is using it. Not in the Netherlands that is.
Doesn't really matter for me anyway, my bankcard itself has NFC inside so contactless paying is already possible.
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You can use in every shop with Contactless payment symbol . Every bankcard with Contactless support (almost all the bank of the world right now) has NFC inside, so contactless payment it's possible . Some service use your "real"card number, other services use "virtual card number" , generating a new one for every transaction .
Hi everyone.
I've pre-ordered an S23 Ultra and have also purchased a 2 year Samsung Care + plan. I've been using a OnePlus 5 from 5+ years now and the last Samsung device I used was Galaxy S2.
Since Samsung's warranty becomes void if the Knox is tripped, my question is, in case there is a screen/ hardware damage to a rooted device, can it be claimed for repair/ replacement under Samsung Care+?
Because in case a rooted device will not be considered under Samsung Care+ plan too, I think I would prefer to cancel the plan. I'm looking for your suggestions on this. I am located in Canada.
P.s. I see the following exception point mentioned in the T&C's of Samsung Care+, "Device malfunction or damage due to improper installation on, or improper equipment modification to the device."
It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
peacey8 said:
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
amirage said:
How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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Joloxx9 said:
I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
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It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
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So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
There currently is no way to unlock the bootloader in the US and Canada. Additionally there is no working root exploit for these phones. It should be near impossible to trip Knox in the locked state. So it's nothing to worry about.
Unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip the Knox efuse, loading an unauthorized bootloader does.
Apparently paid services have been able to unlock the N10+'s and maybe other Snaps. I'm not that interested so haven't followed this too closely. The remote service could potentially install malware and I refuse to risk bricking a valuable device.
blackhawk said:
It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
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Hi what's abd edits?
It's up to the person checking. Some may take it in for warranty even if the knox is tripped but some won't. I've had that experience before.
marvi0 said:
Hi what's abd edits?
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Using ADB commands to remove bloatware is probably the most common example.
amirage said:
So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
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You cannot unlock the bootloader on North American variants. Only European. So my point is this question is moot, not that Knox won't be tripped if you unlock bootloader.
peacey8 said:
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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Omg! I've recently shifted to Canada and was not aware about this.
Now I wonder, why did I order this 1900 CA$ device.
Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units? I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
therealashish said:
Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units?
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Not at this time.
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I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
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Might as well get used to it as this is the way the industry is going. For example OnePlus 11 allows unlocking the bootloader but there is no longer a free way to fix your device if you brick it since the 9RT came out. This has meant that the 10T and 10 Pro have had basically no development.
Pixels have unlockable bootloader still and plenty of custom ROMs are available but... well... you'll be dealing with a lot of other headaches like a battery that probably won't even make it 24 hours on wifi and much less than that on 5G thanks to an inferior Samsung modem. They also have random hardware problems like I've had my screen start flickering and eventually get green lines twice on my Pixel 7 Pro and there have been many others reporting similar issues and now there are reports of pieces straight up falling off the phone surfacing too and this thing has only been out since October...
Pick your poison I guess.
wow , this is nuts . Any reason why other than make sure they sell their own software?
5-8 years ago we were laughing about Apple, but now android are doing the same thing.
Those phone a solid 8 years phone power wise, and the only way to keep them updated is aftermarket ROM !
OP, Im coming also from a OnePLus 5, and also from canada.
I also paid 1900$.
And I'm starting to regret my choice, I have only few days to return it.
Should I get a Oneplus 11 ???
I have had Android Phones since the OG T-Mobile G1. Back then, I rooted EVERY phone I have had.
Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting. I don't get it.
Maybe I am just getting old? LOL!
Talderon said:
Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting.
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There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
EtherealRemnant said:
There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
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Thanks!! I get that some apps won't work without root, but it seems now that people want to root more to say they did than have a real reason for it.
I e given up on rooting mainly because of the inherent stability issue with Custom ROMs and the constant flashing.
Again, I just may be getting old. Lol!!!