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I am currently running DCD 3.0.4 and considering upgrading to 3.1.2.
However, I have been reading that a new rom (diamond based or otherwise) is "around the corner".
From those who actually know:
What kind of timeframe are we talking about?
If you don't know anything specific, please do not respond to this post.
As always, thank you for all your hard work on behalf of us undeserving peons.
It'll be soon.
Patience is a virtue.
why do people have to respond like that.
It's rude, disrespectful, and annoying.
he wasn't being impatient. he was just curious.
I've done the same before.
By asking that question, he doesn't mean "hurry up" or "why isn't it ready yet"
he just wants to know, because flashing takes time (to backup and restore etc..) and obviously, he doesn't want to go through all that to flash to dcd 3.1.2, if dcd 3.1.3 is about to get released.
it's really pretty simple
WOW...I didnt find anything wrong with that anwser...In fact I thought it was rude asking that question in the first place..
"What kind of timeframe are we talking about?
If you don't know anything specific, please do not respond to this post"
Considering GCINCOTTA is a developer/tester in this community and contributes daily... I think your a little out of line here.
Considering when you flash a dcd rom...he will probly be the one helping you..or at least would have
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prepsssuck said:
WOW...I didnt find anything wrong with that anwser...In fact I thought it was rude asking that question in the first place..
"What kind of timeframe are we talking about?
If you don't know anything specific, please do not respond to this post"
Considering GCINCOTTA is a developer/tester in this community and contributes daily... I think your a little out of line here.
Considering when you flash a dcd rom...he will probly be the one helping you..or at least would have
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I have to agree with your post - I was new to this only a month or so ago - without DCD and GCINCOTTA - I would never have even attempted doing this to my phone. Due to their help and tireless work/posting/etc, I have a phone that has working GPS, Fast internet downloads, software that I never would have even known about if not for them.
Like the 'OP, I am looking forward to their latest work, however, I can appreciate the time/effort/energy that goes into this and am patiently awaiting their latest release(s).
Due to their timeless help, I have experimented with several roms throughout this board and on other boards, but if they didn't start me off with their patient explanations, I might not have ever gotten to this point (or even known about this).
Thanks and kudos to the experts here that help out - they know who they are.
SyXbiT said:
why do people have to respond like that.
It's rude, disrespectful, and annoying.
he wasn't being impatient. he was just curious.
I've done the same before.
By asking that question, he doesn't mean "hurry up" or "why isn't it ready yet"
he just wants to know, because flashing takes time (to backup and restore etc..) and obviously, he doesn't want to go through all that to flash to dcd 3.1.2, if dcd 3.1.3 is about to get released.
it's really pretty simple
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Holy smoke, no reason to get all butt hurt. the answer was polite and quite good. gcincotta knows how lame sprint is with their time frames and was just letting the person know to be a bit patient.
"feeelings......nothing more than feeeelings"
it has nothing to do with sprint, and their time frames.
he was asking about a new DCD release.
i'm not butt hurt, i've just seen these kinds of comments all too often.
yes, we're all grateful for DCD and all those that help in ROM dev.
I've seen a simple curious question get attacked (as though the attacker is somehow defending - and sucking up to - their idol, the ROM maker)
you get comments like "this guy does it for free, don't rush him, be grateful."
I agree entirely with those statements, but, asking an approx timeframe is just to avoid constant reformatting.
I personally don't care what the answer is, if it's "soon" or "a long way off" I don't care when it comes, as I know it's free. I just like knowing. (I'm sure we've all reformatted, flash, and got everything set up to see a newer ROM release 4 mins later. it's kinda annoying
wooooooah.. someone need to get layed.. calm down peepz we all equalz..
The point of the post was not to get people riled up. I am sorry.
The point was to calm people down and give them a concept of expectations.
We all know that if you think something is coming in 30 seconds and it doesnt come for half hour, you go crazy. If you think its coming in an hour, then you are surprised by the early release.
It's all a matter of expectations.
I only wrote
"If you don't know anything specific, please do not respond to this post."
so that I didnt get replies like "I'm sure it'll be any minute!" which would only fan the flames of people's impatience.
I did not mean to be impatient or ingratious. I just wanted to potentially save myself (and perhaps others) a few hours of time.
I thought it was relevant to the community when DCD (or others) are expecting to release an upgrade and I have still not, as of yet, received any form of substantive answer.
SyXbiT said:
it has nothing to do with sprint, and their time frames.
he was asking about a new DCD release.
i'm not butt hurt, i've just seen these kinds of comments all too often.
yes, we're all grateful for DCD and all those that help in ROM dev.
I've seen a simple curious question get attacked (as though the attacker is somehow defending - and sucking up to - their idol, the ROM maker)
you get comments like "this guy does it for free, don't rush him, be grateful."
I agree entirely with those statements, but, asking an approx timeframe is just to avoid constant reformatting.
I personally don't care what the answer is, if it's "soon" or "a long way off" I don't care when it comes, as I know it's free. I just like knowing. (I'm sure we've all reformatted, flash, and got everything set up to see a newer ROM release 4 mins later. it's kinda annoying
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GC is a major tester for DCD and his ROMs. show some respect, he was giving you accurate information as a source.
aguas said:
GC is a major tester for DCD and his ROMs. show some respect, he was giving you accurate information as a source.
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accurate yes, but the OP asked for specific, if GC had said something like "i work with DCD on the roms, but neither of us can give you anything specific, but it should b soon" we probably would have avoided every subsequent post in this thread
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accurate yes, but the OP asked for specific, if GC had said something like "i work with DCD on the roms, but neither of us can give you anything specific, but it should b soon" we probably would have avoided every subsequent post in this thread
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agreed.
as far as 'accurate information' ???
he said nothing at all!
These people dont do this for a living...they have no deadlines or executives breathing down there back for a release...G was stating that i will be soon...like after the major bugs are addressed...There is no timeline....He could have lied and said tomorrow at 12:37 am
Tell me lies! Tell me sweet little lies!
Now watch it come out tomorrow at 12:37 am...lol...would be sweet if it did though
I thought the OP was a fair question because he wanted to know it he should flash dcd3.1.2 or wait for the diamond inspired roms. I though gc's answer was also fair. He said "it will be soon... (so).. have patience" i.e. don't flash dcd3.1.2 if it is a hassle for you because, with patience, the diamond inspired roms will come.
Now if you really want to have a laugh at people getting their hopes dashed by a missed timeframe you should check out the Athena Project thread. I had weeks of amusement reading that thread. And you know who they were flaming for missing a deadline? - olipro! yeah they guy who made it all possible was getting flamed because he got hammered instead of meeting a deadline. (For those who dont know, without olipros hard and soft SPLs we could not unlock our HTC phones and flash unsigned roms)
So to save themselves the flames and disappointments it is normal for dcd et al to say "soon" rather than "12.37am tomorrow".
As others have pointed out, these guys do this in their spare time, and with the wings in stanley cup finals, some of them are busy at the moment.
Now my 2c worth on the OP question. If you have dcd3.0.4 working well and you are happy with it, I would not see much reason to flash dcd3.1.2 just at the moment. I tried it and have since gone back to dcd3.0.4 and am very happy with it. Although I did flash and keep the new radio 3.39 but to be honest I don't see a great difference.
Um, I believe the OP said....
From those who actually know:
What kind of timeframe are we talking about?
If you don't know anything specific, please do not respond to this post.
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I would like to believe that common sense would have been applied when I responded.
I think my question was fair. I was, and am, being patient. I wasn't trying to be rude or obnoxious or ungrateful.
I think that GC was trying to be helpful, but his post didn't add anything useful as it ignored my request for something specific. Had he not responded at all, I would have known what I know now about the release date - namely nothing.
The great irony is that not one of you knew anything specific, yet you all replied to my post.
Thanks to maccaberry for the constructive input.
I think that GC was trying to be helpful, but his post didn't add anything useful as it ignored my request for something specific.
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I'm afraid "soon" is as specific as it gets at the moment. When work is being done, there is no specific timeframe. Whenever it's tested and working up to standard, it gets released. I could have said something like...in about a week, though something could break in a week that puts if off for another two weeks. Then we'd have new threads and posts saying "I thought it was going to be in about a week..."
gc....you and dc etc. are the reason why meatheads like myself dont still use a rotary phone lol. keep up the good work and keep the good replies coming witt is often needed but not often understood.
OP) updated 120619.Post 5) updated 120617. Any help you can contribute is highly welcome. I will keep you updated while working on it and give access for everyone "as is".
1v02.0) Premiss:
1.1.v01.0) Intent of this thread:
- to create a common basis and "reckognized" guideline for a standardised
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setup from scratch of the Asus TF201 for everybody. So user utilising this thread as a tool either (hopefully) enjoy their device afterwards and never come back here, or they are able to compare results and actions of their tf201 on referencing ground and nail its presumable weak spot
- to develop some testing scenarios and simple test environments for home, on the road and wherever for reproducable results.
- with the aim to make experience vary less and gain substantial test-results throughout the community
- to give every member of XDA the possibility to contribute scientific information to the highly qualified and overworked Asus staff
- to laugh about your jokes and be happy when I go to bed a little later than my beloved ones
- there could be other useful or nice sideeffects out of the initial blast and future on topic fussing as some intelligent members already have proven in this thread.
1.2.v01.0) Backgroundinformation
Due to the preliminary confusion caused by my intuitive and snappy approach and some second thoughts I acknowledge my noobness and apologize to everybody psychologicaly involved in it. I wanted to make this going quickly but then I am not a very quick thinker, I guess. So you see my dilemma. I see we are already on track and comments until today made me wonder if I should get rid or change my FAQ and posts archive. I figure my system limits it naturally.
The thread might get reorganised during times as I try to keep up with you guys who cannot resist posting. Great it probably will be easier than I thought.
But since also my days end regularly I just hope the hype ends. Any good findings and pinpointing bull, that's cool gals and will lead eventually to something usable.
Remind you: the quicker you post, the more I fall behind and struggle with ideas and facts. So I'd rather have you pm me.
But I surely do appreciate your criticism, corrections of facts or corrections of my hillbilly english or any comment. I want this a real fun tool as I plan to spend some time with it. Obviously there will be a lot of noobness and room for misunderstandings and -interpretions. I am looking forward to the discussion and every single post. Since I am used to fall behind.
- My (If) call for help or feedback will be on top of this post.
- The elementary information starts in post #2
- Hot spot is post #3
- Threadhistory in post #4
- My (If) feedback on your feedback is in post #5.
- My status is in post #6
1.3.v02.1) Note:
As people seem to be shy and feel uncomfortable when explicitly asked to pm and not to post I apologise and hope many replies will put that guide together quickly. Personally I still prefer pms especially if you want me to fled off, I have stolen your ideas or you don't like the color of my hair: Please, pm me. If you don't like my language, well I am no native but trying to be substantial and open for accurate corrections. I leave post #6 which shows my preferences, as a booby-trap for trolls and whinners. Of course you can post in my thread but only on topic Read post #6 and be warned. Any comment on post #6 exposes itself and saves me a lot of time. Let's see if this works how I figured it out vaguely.
P.S.
And you know all this stuff about reliabilty. Devices vary, so no guarantee yours doesn't blow up. If it breaks, sorry it happens. Mine's still alive and as quick as it can run on the presumably wrong stock code. Let me cite antutu which scores around 13200 points on 1.28. Around 1500 Points more than the previous build. By no means I will say this is the only way of checking, testing and setting up your tf201 or that I am always right. But I am convinced if you let me put my hand on the flamed devices I would fix most of the so called software-flaws and bugs people are experiencing. Software is x'n'o's and works potentionally forever if it works. It will do the same on any similar sister hardware. If you change or add something within this software or add another software, there will be hundreds of ways the original software can brake. Unfortunately only a few to get back to normal.
So read my contribution to the thread: If you are stuck with your problem: Go for that pinhole next to the microsd-card. It works wonders. Turn off the device by pushing the pin for 30 seconds and then wait for the boot. Do a reboot, maybe two and you hopefully be better. To be sure: start from scratch following this thread when it's here. Everything mentioned in my posts is based on my personal experience with the tf201 and other devices, the huge amount of information in xda or elsewhere and input from real cracks and specialists which hopefully join in.
Maybe I ridicule myself, so be it. I give it a go and guess that's fine with the mods too since this will be a joyride for them too!
2) Prerequisits:
- Electricity
- Transformer Prime TF201, stock rom
- Asus ac-connector
- Asus usb-cable
3) Setup (draft):
Whenever you start playing with a new tf201 and a new softwarerelease or rom:
Let the device start up, and first of all make sure you do a reset. By pushing a pin into the pinhole next to the microsd-card slot for 30 seconds you will get rid of old os-intern data debunked all over your device without loosing any of your downloaded progs or added data.
- After this you get a clean start and all os specific values and parameters are deleted. The clean os now is freshly pushing required data to the different services and applications in the appropriate manner it requires it.
- Now make sure you let your device reboot twice and start every loaded application once to set it up as requested.
- Reboot one more time. The tf201 is now ready to work/ play/ cuddle.
(This is how it should be. Experience varys as tf201 do).
4) Thread change History
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6) Feedback on Feedback transferred to post #60
Update 120618
1) Premiss:
After just having jumped on the android train and coming from constructing buildings I see that our forum is missing some solid ground.
So I figure I'll have to start working on it. [Update]To keep the information compact I have posted several posts in a row. The thread might get reorganised in time.[/Update]
Anyone who is interested in something hopefully useful can subscribe to this thread and send me a pm to let me know that they did, I would appreciate such info.
If I get no pms I won't know someone cares and I will just go my pace (which I will do anyway).
1.3v.02.0) Note:
minor adjustments
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Thread title:
[Guide] (updated120617) setup and testing of EEEpadTF201 wip(input appreciated)
1.3v.01) Note:
If you abuse my thread to flame, blame or mob your boss, retailer, dog or whomever, so please don't post in this thread, pm me. Unless I cry for feedback. Which will be made obvious in the first line of this thread.
If you can't keep away form posting, stay on topic or your post will be deleted as Diamondback is watching you. If you think this is silly feel also free to pm me [/B] but don't post, see 'off topic postings before'.
So: best is you don't post anything, pm me.
If you want me to fled off, I have stolen your ideas or you don't like the color of my hair: pm me. If you don't like my language, well I am no native but trying to be substantial and open for accurate corrections.
Any pm appreciated.
Thanks
5) Personal reminder/thoughts
6) Quarantine:
Status
Please do not post anything in this thread for the moment! better send me a pm.
I have already fallen behind
131313 said:
Do not post anything in this thread!
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FIRST POST! W00T!!
Sorry, couldn't resist
My understanding was this is a forum i.e. somewhere where people discussed things. How does it work if someone disagrees with what you say? PM you and you will take it under consideration?
What you are trying to achieve may be useful. However, if you want to keep it limited to your input only why don't you start a blog and post a link?
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What he said
paddycr said:
FIRST POST! W00T!!
Sorry, couldn't resist
My understanding was this is a forum i.e. somewhere where people discussed things. How does it work if someone disagrees with what you say? PM you and you will take it under consideration?
What you are trying to achieve may be useful. However, if you want to keep it limited to your input only why don't you start a blog and post a link?
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I agree with the "First Poster" First you come in and insult the forum saying it is "missing solid ground", then grab a bunch of space to "go at your own pace"?
You created a thread for your "Todo" list? And started it up without contributing anything to the forum, and tell us we can't post to the thread, that it's a soapbox for you and only you? Seriously, why DON'T you start a blog on the Transformer Prime (to go with the 800 others out there) and DON'T post a link. I could understand if you had some great info to put up, and wanted to add to it later, but this is plain useless. Now please delete my post.
There is LOTS of information regarding "Setup and Testing" of TF101, going back over 6 months. Did you try seraching the forum, or is it you are not interested in what anyone else has to say, but rather just what YOU plan to post... later... when you get around to it - (the suspense is killing people everywhere.) in a General Info Forum... where you have yet to post anything remotely useful...
hmmm.
SmartAs$Phone said:
You created a thread for your "Todo" list? And started it up without contributing anything to the forum, and tell us we can't post to the thread, that it's a soapbox for you and only you?
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I second this.
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If you can't keep away form posting, stay on topic or your post will be deleted as Diamondback is watching you. If you think this is silly feel free to pm me but don't post it, see above.
So: best is you don't post anything, pm me.
If you want me to fled off, I have stolen your ideas or you don't like the color of my hair: pm me.
Thanks
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i've seen various threads being deleted because they were placeholders for stuff that's upcoming/under construction which is against the xda policy .....
So yes , i agree, gogo DiamondBack :thumbup:
i will give OP, benefit of doubt. in good spirit, Lets checkout what he wants to share...
but why create a thread when your not ready with material to share... ? you can create a thread tomorrow/day after/whenever ur ready with some substance.
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While I like your idea, two things that you should know/correct:
-You dont need to hold the soft reset pinole for 30 seconds, once it's push it does the same thing.
-Pushing the pinhole resets the way Prime, however, this fresh boot will only last for a short period of time. So, any apps that were giving you isses before, will give you the SMAME issue again. This has been discussed already and proven. The I/O schedule is also not fixed by simply pushing the pinhole, it's just "started over"
You should copy confirmed working info from throughout the avaialble threads if you are trying to help people, tht will be more benificial for "new owners. The Prime's main issue seems to stem from the I/O scheduler, plus a few incompatible apps, so people observe which apps causes issues and remove them. Also, the next update "should" fix the I/O issue by giving priority to the foreground running applictions.
The Pin-hole in our Primes doesn't get rid of any OS Data, it is just a way to reset the Prime in a hardware-fashion since we cant remove the battery. If the OS completely freezed a software reset wont work, and since we have no way of remove the battery a solution had to be implemented
The Cold Boot option in the boot menu is pretty much just like turning the Prime off and then turning it on again. So far I'm not ware of a way to clear all caches with a Stock Prime.
If you are unsure, turn off the Prime, and measure the time it takes to boot when using pin hole option, cold boot option and normal. If any cache would be deleted it would take twice the time, since it would be building all the Dalvik/Cache files again. As far as I know, it always takes the same time to boot up, doesnt matter which option you choose.
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2) Prerequisits:
- Electricity
- Transformer Prime TF201, stock rom
- AC-connector
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I am one who always tries to respect the rules on xda, but the number of useless threads in the transformer prime section is starting to make finding useful information nearly impossible and giving me this terrible urge to start flaming people! I'm still resisting the urge so I will not be flaming here, nor sending you a pm but will pm the mods to try to get a reduction in this sort of rubbish posting....
Thanks for your wonderful tip here, i had really never realised I needed those three things together at the same time, but I don't think I'll be clicking the thanks button just yet....
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So can someone explain me what the hell this thread is?
It's a placeholder for upcoming information of unknown nature?
And then you say that you don't want any posts here... But why? This is a forum, so it's made to discuss stuff. You might got the idea from the Asus sticky I made, but that had a good reason and I really don't see such a reason here.
Can someone please enlighten me if I miss something substantial?
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1.1v.01) Note:
If you abuse my thread to flame, blame or mob your boss, retailer, dog or whomever, so please don't post in this thread, pm me. Unless I cry for feedback. Which will be made obvious in the first line of this thread.
If you can't keep away form posting, stay on topic or your post will be deleted as Diamondback is watching you. If you think this is silly feel also free to pm me [/B] but don't post, see 'off topic postings before'.
So: best is you don't post anything, pm me.
If you want me to fled off, I have stolen your ideas or you don't like the color of my hair: pm me. If you don't like my language, well I am no native but trying to be substantial and open for accurate corrections.
Any pm appreciated.
Thanks]
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So can someone explain me what the hell this thread is?
It's a placeholder for upcoming information of unknown nature?
And then you say that you don't want any posts here... But why? This is a forum, so it's made to discuss stuff. You might got the idea from the Asus sticky I made, but that had a good reason and I really don't see such a reason here.
Can someone please enlighten me if I miss something substantial?
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Well, as he seems to cite you as an ally in his post I've quoted here, and even you don't understand, i fear all is lost!!!
Woe is me! Woe is us! Were all done for and descending rapidly into premature senility.... surely it's clear what this thread is all about.... isn't it?.... somebody?.... please!..... help!....
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the responses in this thread makes me laugh. maybe this thread was made to lighten things up since it has taken a comedic approach. Even Diamondback is stumped.
stinky73 said:
Well, as he seems to cite you as an ally in his post I've quoted here, and even you don't understand, i fear all is lost!!!
Woe is me! Woe is us! Were all done for and descending rapidly into premature senility.... surely it's clear what this thread is all about.... isn't it?.... somebody?.... please!..... help!....
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Well he didn't talk to me, so I have no idea what is going on here
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the responses in this thread makes me laugh. maybe this thread was made to lighten things up since it has taken a comedic approach. Even Diamondback is stumped.
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Ah, thanks Demandarin, so it's a sort of "Comic Relief does XDA" special event for charity??!!.... At last! Somebody who can explain it all.....:thumbup:
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stinky73 said:
Ah, thanks Demandarin, so it's a sort of "Comic Relief does XDA" special event for charity??!!.... At last! Somebody who can explain it all.....:thumbup:
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I have to agree with this. I hope it doesn't get locked. I just *have* to know where this is going now
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I created this http://www.change.org/petitions/htc...unlock-the-droid-incredible-4g-lte-bootloader. to petition the unlock of the bootloader. We can't just sign a petition an pray for it to happen. We must get on their Facebook, twitter an any social media site they have pressuring them into this. Don't go post "hey assholes unlock our device", that won't help, just makes you look stupid! Post on their something like "I've been with you since 2005,long time customer, but you locking my device down in unacceptable! If this isn't fixed shortly I will leave for another company!" stuff like that over an over will get their attention. At the same time spread the word of the site an the unfairness of both the companies.
It's time to rise up an show them, without us, they are nothing!
Some extra info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32332265#post32332265
a few other notes:
if anyone has some suggestion,like change this or other stuff. bring it up here,so we can all discuss it. this is a community.even though the petition has my name on it,its all for you guys. so if their isnt something in it you dont like,well didnt i say bring it up?? lets all work together on this.
If anyone has heard back from either company, please share it here with everyone.
I might delete some comments in the future, just to showcase responses back from people or other stuff. It's not personal .
10/1/2012:
Thanks to mdmower,I added his revised version for the petition. I'll admit his looks better then mine.
mdmower said:
Include the HTC Incredible 4G LTE in HTCdev's unlockable bootloader program
Upon release of the HTC Incredible 4G LTE, HTCdev included the phone in its unlockable bootloader program. Within a matter [of] days, the phone was removed from the program, presumably at the request of Verizon Wireless. There is no clear reason as to why this phone was removed from the program, as users of the bootloader unlock suffered no ill effects.
This petition is being put forth to both HTCdev and Verizon Wireless to request that the HTC [Droid] Incredible 4G LTE be reinstated into the unlockable bootloader program. Support of open development drives innovation and sales. HTC's software developers can learn from the developer community while Verizon Wireless can benefit from end-users upgrading/renewing their plans to take advantage of this new phone. Furthermore, this simple act would incline users to recommend both HTC products and Verizon Wireless service in the future.
Inclusion of the HTC Incredible 4G LTE into HTCdev's unlockable bootloader program is in the best interest of HTC, Verizon Wireless, and end-users. Please take action on this matter as soon as possible.
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That is well put. I would gladly sign that petition.
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That is well put. I would gladly sign that petition.
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Agreed. This is similar to the letter I wrote to the regional prez for VZW covering South Carolina. Granted mine was 3 pages long and covered individual issues I've had with VZW. Of course I never got a reply.
Signed. Recived another letter from Verizon that was the exact one I recived before.
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Op updating
The several posts that were deleted were on-topic and showed contribution from the community to writing/revising this petition, I don't see why they were removed. This also eliminated the possibility of thanking users for various contributions. I'm new to posting on XDA, and now I'm missing out on any opportunity to add to my thanks meter.
The OP's petition still retains the old petition letter below the description. I initially thought these would be non-editable so I created a separate petition (really, I'm surprised that a petition author can change the letter AFTER signatures have been added, but change.org seems to allow this). I now see that the OP can in fact edit all aspects of the petition (except maybe the url), and so users should sign that when it is completely updated.
signed.
but should it say "HTC and Verizon" not "an" ?
Guys please read the op over again. I currently stated that some posts would be deleted, it's in order to show who signed an has heard back from either company.
I will be adding to the op who has helped an stuff, just please bare with me on this. I have a lot going on with xda.
Here is what i Got from VZW. I talked to Scott today and he offered me a different device saying that the letter states VZW's stance on the bootloader being unlocked. He actually started the offer with a Galaxy S3 and I said Rezound if I was going to do that. It was for a certified used device with cover and battery. He said my plan and everything would stay the same. He gave me until Friday for the offer.
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Here is what i Got from VZW. I talked to Scott today and he offered me a different device saying that the letter states VZW's stance on the bootloader being unlocked.
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BULLCRAP!!!
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bullcrap!!!
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sounds to me like we'll never get unlock. If this holds true
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Here is what i Got from VZW. I talked to Scott today and he offered me a different device saying that the letter states VZW's stance on the bootloader being unlocked. He actually started the offer with a Galaxy S3 and I said Rezound if I was going to do that. He gave me until Friday for the offer.
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Did they offer you the S3 at upgrade price? Without losing unlimited data? In the letter I wrote to the regional prez for the Carolinas, I told them I'd be willing to pay for a new phone at upgrade price if I didn't lose my unlimited data, but haven't heard anything back.
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Did they offer you the S3 at upgrade price? Without losing unlimited data? In the letter I wrote to the regional prez for the Carolinas, I told them I'd be willing to pay for a new phone at upgrade price if I didn't lose my unlimited data, but haven't heard anything back.
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He said it everything would stay the same. No cost was explained.
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I deleted all the stuff, in trying to keep updated from users in the thread. I will be adding to the op on xda, who helped an stuff.
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I just want to make sure that you realize the petition isn't completely updated. Please take no offense, I just want people to have a petition they are comfortable signing (myself included),
1) Other users have mentioned the use of "an" in place of "and"; these are two very different words. I hope you'll reconsider this habit in the future.
2) The letter just beneath the description of the petition still contains the old petition's text: "HTC an Verizon are abusing their abilities...". I'm very uncomfortable signing the petition with this letter still in place.
3) The paragraph breaks are missing from the letter. The breaks help emphasize different points and are appropriate.
4) When introducing HTCdev, it would be best to first list the name, then follow with the web address. In the first paragraph, replace "http://www.htcdev.com" with "HTCdev (htcdev.com)".
Please realize that we are trying to petition some very large corporations. Professionalism is a must if we expect to be taken seriously. Attacks on their name or reputation are only going to guarantee non-response. Poor grammar and structure will also leave our petition ignored. HTC and Verizon Wireless will have a more difficult time combating reason and intellect, and for this I think the community should strive.
I copied everything you posted in the pm. I'm not obligated to do this for y'all, I'm trying to help out. This will be updated when I have the time. If you want to start your own be my guest. Don't get mad or something with me, when I'm busy doing stuff around xda an in my life.
Honestly you should be glad, that I'm doing this for you guys. I don't mind a little nudge here or there to fix stuff. Just don't badger me over stuff.
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I copied everything you posted in the pm. I'm not obligated to do this for y'all, I'm trying to help out. This will be updated when I have the time. If you want to start your own be my guest. Don't get mad or something with me, when I'm busy doing stuff around xda an in my life.
Honestly you should be glad, that I'm doing this for you guys. I don't mind a little nudge here or there to fix stuff. Just don't badger me over stuff.
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fixed.
Been there done that all bull****
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I copied everything you posted in the pm. I'm not obligated to do this for y'all, I'm trying to help out. This will be updated when I have the time. If you want to start your own be my guest. Don't get mad or something with me, when I'm busy doing stuff around xda an in my life.
Honestly you should be glad, that I'm doing this for you guys. I don't mind a little nudge here or there to fix stuff. Just don't badger me over stuff.
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did someone in our community ask you to make the petition?
If not.. you did this on your on time and doing.
so we would like to be taken seriously, no on is putting you down, I've had issues with mdmower, but I have to agree with the polite way he approached you about the petition, but I found your response a bit childish in the manner you had let us know that you aren't doing this because you have to but rather YOU chose to.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you and what you're doing.
but I don't NEED to be glad about anything that you are doing, so for you to say "Honestly you should be glad, that I'm doing this for you guys." is completely childish IMO and I don't agree with it one bit.
If you don't want to be bothered over "stuff" then why are you the OP?
I'm confused.
If it possible please ignore my actions last night. I was stressed out over my job interview I had this morning.
I'm sorry for the way I acted.
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If it possible please ignore my actions last night. I was stressed out over my job interview I had this morning.
I'm sorry for the way I acted.
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It's all good, no worries.
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Any other changes need to be made?
I'm infinitely sorry if there is a helpful thread that speaks to this, but I cannot seem to find anything of note.
I have an HDX 7" 13.3.2.4_user_3240022120. I have root with Towelroot. I can't seem to find substantive information on disabling OTAs rooted with towelroot. I hear Towelroot disables OTAs. I hear Towelroot does not disable OTAs. There seems to be conflicting info on this subject. Could someone direct me to a thread that answers this question. The internet as a whole and GOOGLE are not really helping either. Maybe I'm just goofy
If it can't be answered somewhere in these forums, I am pretty sure it can't be answered anywhere.
Any guidance appreciated.
Thanks
wow
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I'm infinitely sorry if there is a helpful thread that speaks to this, but I cannot seem to find anything of note.
I have an HDX 7" 13.3.2.4_user_3240022120. I have root with Towelroot. I can't seem to find substantive information on disabling OTAs rooted with towelroot. I hear Towelroot disables OTAs. I hear Towelroot does not disable OTAs. There seems to be conflicting info on this subject. Could someone direct me to a thread that answers this question. The internet as a whole and GOOGLE are not really helping either. Maybe I'm just goofy
If it can't be answered somewhere in these forums, I am pretty sure it can't be answered anywhere.
Any guidance appreciated.
Thanks
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It's pretty much pick it up and start reading like the thread just below yours on this page was first thread before you started this one. All your information is messed up and it's obvious to me that you didn't even attempt to look here . My advice is to not modify anything into you read this whole forum or near. Everything you ever needed to know about this device is here somewhere already for you to find .http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553797 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786190 and this was on first page of general http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/prevent-updates-hdx-8-9-t2824145
Thank you for your help.
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It's pretty much pick it up and start reading like the thread just below yours on this page was first thread before you started this one. All your information is messed up and it's obvious to me that you didn't even attempt to look here . My advice is to not modify anything into you read this whole forum or near. Everything you ever needed to know about this device is here somewhere already for you to find .http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553797 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786190 and this was on first page of general http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/prevent-updates-hdx-8-9-t2824145
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Thanks so much. I'm embarrassed. I should have located the info myself. It most definitely is a teachable moment. I am truly heartsick. Your effort in helping me, has claimed precious time you can never get back; time you could have been spending with your family. After writing this thank you note, I will face north and summarily flog myself, with coaxial cable, while rubbing a mixture of salt and isopropyl alcohol, into my wounds. I think we can all agree, the condescension and chastising was appropriate for the crime. It's certainly a powerful teaching tool. I'll be adopting this valuable method, for the sake of my students, at NYU. I realize the world would be a much better place without noobs. We certainly should not be allowed to reproduce. It just weakens the gene pool. Our pesky survival instinct keeps us from an innate and fruitless desire, to be better; to grow as a human being.
A quick thought. Just because something is "obvious" to an individual, it does not necessarily make said observation true.
I appreciate your effort on my behalf. Volunteering to be a surrogate for the missing parts of my brain, is noble. I am painfully aware that you were not required to step in. I know it was an empathetic choice. A decision made out of pity. Your are a good person. Someone, others, should try to emulate. I hope the forthcoming jpgs of my self mutilation will somewhat supplant your annoyance. My wish for you; the memory of this incident will fade quickly. No one likes a terrible recollection lingering in the subconscious, leaving a bad taste on the brain. I only wish that I could do more to show my appreciation. Pressing the "THANKS" button seems little consolation.
Kidding aside, you helped me solve a nagging issue. I am un-sarcastically grateful.
Peace
Wow
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Thanks so much. I'm embarrassed. I should have located the info myself. It most definitely is a teachable moment. I am truly heartsick. Your effort in helping me, has claimed precious time you can never get back; time you could have been spending with your family. After writing this thank you note, I will face north and summarily flog myself, with coaxial cable, while rubbing a mixture of salt and isopropyl alcohol, into my wounds. I think we can all agree, the condescension and chastising was appropriate for the crime. It's certainly a powerful teaching tool. I'll be adopting this valuable method, for the sake of my students, at NYU. I realize the world would be a much better place without noobs. We certainly should not be allowed to reproduce. It just weakens the gene pool. Our pesky survival instinct keeps us from an innate and fruitless desire, to be better; to grow as a human being.
A quick thought. Just because something is "obvious" to an individual, it does not necessarily make said observation true.
I appreciate your effort on my behalf. Volunteering to be a surrogate for the missing parts of my brain, is noble. I am painfully aware that you were not required to step in. I know it was an empathetic choice. A decision made out of pity. Your are a good person. Someone, others, should try to emulate. I hope the forthcoming jpgs of my self mutilation will somewhat supplant your annoyance. My wish for you; the memory of this incident will fade quickly. No one likes a terrible recollection lingering in the subconscious, leaving a bad taste on the brain. I only wish that I could do more to show my appreciation. Pressing the "THANKS" button seems little consolation.
Kidding aside, you helped me solve a nagging issue. I am un-sarcastically grateful.
Peace
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Thank you that was truly fantastic you made my day honestly .. I haven't gotten that much enjoyment reading something in here in weeks. After I pick myself up off the floor. I will try not to be such an ass.. Sorry .Enjoy your device truly, Peace
Glad it made you laugh.
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Thank you that was truly fantastic you made my day honestly .. I haven't gotten that much enjoyment reading something in here in weeks. After I pick myself up off the floor. I will try not to be such an ass.. Sorry .Enjoy your device truly, Peace
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No harm intended. Glad you took it in the spirit, it was intended. Pictures forthcoming. Thread closed :laugh:
Suffer thee, the fools, the helpless, and the redundant.
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It's pretty much pick it up and start reading like the thread just below yours on this page was first thread before you started this one. All your information is messed up and it's obvious to me that you didn't even attempt to look here . My advice is to not modify anything into you read this whole forum or near. Everything you ever needed to know about this device is here somewhere already for you to find .http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553797 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786190 and this was on first page of general http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/prevent-updates-hdx-8-9-t2824145
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GSLEON3 had posted a video about whiny people asking for help, whilst not even answering simple questions, to help solve their problem, for them. Here
I solved my OTA issue BTW. THANKS.
The video reminded me of a transcript taken from a tech support phone call at Word Perfect (not even sure WP exists anymore) The story is pretty old, and depending on your age, you may or may not have heard it. Although, I have had my moments of terminal cluelessness (as was the case on these forums recently), I am 30 years tech savvy (UNIX, LINUX, IRIX, Mac, PC, Networks, High-end CG), and can certainly feel the pain SENIOR users feel, The endless annoyances can make you lose faith in the continuation of humanity. I agree, it is frustrating to help someone, with no initiative to learn. When I help someone with a problem, I sometimes feel as though, I have entered the TWILIGHT ZONE. "They could not have possibly meant to ask that question, not out loud, at any rate. I have obviously misheard their question. These are people, that will be responsible for saving the lives of their patients." It's at about that point, my hair get's numb, and rather than have a major "brain event", I hallucinate, and see them as fish, flopping around on dry land. Anyhoo...
This is hysterical. Word Perfect
post ur questions here
How unlock SM-G930P?
I'd like to know?
send me pm ill send u instructions there
Deleted, so I don't contribute to help form anyone's opinions. And if anyone see's my old posts in a quoted response, I'm here saying that I was wrong and I had no proof of and rule breaking here on XDA.
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Im dying for a solution here. Please do tell.
i m not giving solution just can do via usb over network
Why is this thread not deleted? It's obvious BS in this community we share information freely, not via PM.
u just need to install flexihub and teamviewer what else information you need?
My apologies to the OP. I was unaware of the details involved to achieve the unlocking of the sim. So here im admitting to my jumping to conclusions and being a asshole. You would think with how long I've been here on XDA that I would know better than to be so judgmental. So I'm sorry to the OP for opening my big mouth. My bad bro.
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^^^^^ this.. I tried to pm the OP and he told me I had to install all this crap via "TeamViewer" and something else on my computer, then i had to install skype or some other application all just to get some instructions from this person. I mean, why can't you just post the instructions here for everyone to see, and use? My having to go install all that crap on my computer, in an attempt to get your so called directions makes me not trust you. Why do you gotta be so God damn shady?
Anyways, im not wasting anymore of my time looking at your stupid/uninformitive thread. Im just wasting my time and bumping this worthless thread. Smh
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It's also complete BS I have learned it's actually impossible to get a Sprint S7 unlocked anyway besides on the Sprint side. So unless this guy is hacking Sprints servers he is scamming people.
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What is this, another advertisement (wolf) in sheeps clothing? Only telling you how in pm's so they can charge you $$$ without their thread getting deleted by the mods, instead of posting the instructions here for everyone to see? Seems sketchy to me... what do you think mods???
I mean, if im wrong please forgive me but the op not posting the instructions here tells me their hiding something??? OP, and thoughts?
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Why is this thread not deleted? It's obvious BS in this community we share information freely, not via PM.
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^^^^^ this.. I tried to pm the OP and he told me I had to install all this crap via "TeamViewer" and something else on my computer, then i had to install skype or some other application all just to get some instructions from this person. I mean, why can't you just post the instructions here for everyone to see, and use? My having to go install all that crap on my computer, in an attempt to get your so called directions makes me not trust you. Why do you gotta be so God damn shady?
Anyways, im not wasting anymore of my time looking at your stupid/uninformitive thread. Im just wasting my time and bumping this worthless thread. Smh
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It's also complete BS I have learned it's actually impossible to get a Sprint S7 unlocked anyway besides on the Sprint side. So unless this guy is hacking Sprints servers he is scamming people.
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To perform certain functions (sometimes including SIM unlock), you need a dongle or some other piece of hardware (most of which are expensive). Hence why the OP requires you to install flexihub, which allows your PC to access remote USB ports and, thus, remote USB devices. So, now that we are aware of what is going on here, please check the judgemental attitudes at the door, and if you don't want to participate in this thread, then you are free not to...
The OP is provide a service for free for the benefit of the community. Now, if this was not provided for free, then that would be a different story, and I would have shut the thread down long ago if I had proof of that.
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efrant said:
To perform certain functions (sometimes including SIM unlock), you need a dongle or some other piece of hardware (most of which are expensive). Hence why the OP requires you to install flexihub, which allows your PC to access remote USB ports and, thus, remote USB devices. So, now that we are aware of what is going on here, please check the judgemental attitudes at the door, and if you don't want to participate in this thread, then you are free not to...
The OP is provide a service for free for the benefit of the community. Now, if this was not provided for free, then that would be a different story, and I would have shut the thread down long ago if I had proof of that.
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Not in this case, I've confirmed with a sprint tier 3 support technician at a call center here in Portland. It's a white list on the server side. You can use all the hardware you want, do whatever you want to the phone without the sprint server authorizing ICCID unlock it's not happening. Period. So again this is a scam.
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Not in this case, I've confirmed with a sprint tier 3 support technician at a call center here in Portland. It's a white list on the server side. You can use all the hardware you want, do whatever you want to the phone without the sprint server authorizing ICCID unlock it's not happening. Period. So again this is a scam.
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You may very well be correct. However, I don't intend on choking off a thread that could potentially work until we see confirmation either way by someone who has tried the service.
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You may very well be correct. However, I don't intend on choking off a thread that could potentially work until we see confirmation either way by someone who has tried the service.
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You can do research to confirm Sprints new method of of controlling ICCID unlocks via the the server side. It's all out there. Meantime potentially our xda members could be getting ripped off.. Just saying. But hey what do I know lol.
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You can do research to confirm Sprints new method of of controlling ICCID unlocks via the the server side. It's all out there. Meantime potentially our xda members could be getting ripped off.. Just saying. But hey what do I know lol.
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Funny, because there's a user here on xda who has been unlocking Sprint HTC devices for a while now, and it has been confirmed by many others...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-one-m9/general/sim-unlock-thanks-to-gcprokey-t3166761
Like I said, you may be correct, and there may be something specific about the S7, but we need confirmation from a user here, not from Sprint tech support...
but i m wondering why people not posting feedback who got unlocked by me. i have other threads check if i have done scam or some thing with any one .
i m in such filed since 2005
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/member.php?u=199814
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It's also complete BS I have learned it's actually impossible to get a Sprint S7 unlocked anyway besides on the Sprint side. So unless this guy is hacking Sprints servers he is scamming people.
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Do you have any proof of your allegations? Because I didn't, and I deleted my posts cuz i had no proof that the OP had broken any XDA rules. In addition, until we see a user here on XDA that own's a galaxy s7 (Sprint) that says his process works or it doesn't work, we should continue to keep a neutral opinion and let the OP do his thing.
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but i m wondering why people not posting feedback who got unlocked by me. i have other threads check if i have done scam or some thing with any one .
i m in such filed since 2005
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/member.php?u=199814
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I have looked over your other threads and I seen no indication of you breaking any rules, or ripping anyone off, so hopefully you and I are good. Are you and I good? I went back and deleted my inappropriate comments and I apologized to you for my opening my big mouth.
As for the others not reporting feedback, if you in fact helped them unlock their phones, then they have a obligation to you to post their feedback, and if they didn't, then SHAME on them.. And did you mean to say that you've been a member since 2005?
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Not in this case, I've confirmed with a sprint tier 3 support technician at a call center here in Portland. It's a white list on the server side. You can use all the hardware you want, do whatever you want to the phone without the sprint server authorizing ICCID unlock it's not happening. Period. So again this is a scam.
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You may very well be correct, BUT until you, or someone else has any proof of the OP ripping them off, or scammed them using this service, everyone accusing the OP of scamming should keep their opinions to themselves, IMO.
And to the MODERATOR, perhaps you should delete some of my unneeded comments, just to clean his thread up a bit so my big mouth doesn't help form any bad opinions of the OP? Anyways, imma shut up now and stay out of the OP's thread, lol...
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Do you have any proof of your allegations? Because I didn't, and I deleted my posts cuz i had no proof that the OP had broken any XDA rules. In addition, until we see a user here on XDA that own's a galaxy s7 (Sprint) that says his process works or it doesn't work, we should continue to keep a neutral opinion and let the OP do his thing.
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I have looked over your other threads and I seen no indication of you breaking any rules, or ripping anyone off, so hopefully you and I are good. Are you and I good? I went back and deleted my inappropriate comments and I apologized to you for my opening my big mouth.
As for the others not reporting feedback, if you in fact helped them unlock their phones, then they have a obligation to you to post their feedback, and if they didn't, then SHAME on them.. And did you mean to say that you've been a member since 2005?
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You may very well be correct, BUT until you, or someone else has any proof of the OP ripping them off, or scammed them using this service, everyone accusing the OP of scamming should keep their opinions to themselves, IMO.
And to the MODERATOR, perhaps you should delete some of my unneeded comments, just to clean his thread up a bit so my big mouth doesn't help form any bad opinions of the OP? Anyways, imma shut up now and stay out of the OP's thread, lol...
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Nah i just mean im into unlocking and flashing since 2005, its only thing i do for living
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ANYONE NEEDING UNLOCKING, CONTACT @asadnow2k!!! Unlocked my phone with ease. I can now use my Sprint unlocked device with my new tmobile service. Very satisfied