Can I charge Xiaomi Note 10 Lite with a standard Samsung charger? Following are the specifications of chargers
Xiaomi Note 10 Lite came with 30w Fast Charger, following is whats written on the charger:
Output 5.0V=3.0A 15.0W/9.0V=3.0A 27.0W/12.0V=2.25A 27.0W/20.0V=1.35A 27.0W/10.0V=3.0A Max 30.0W Max
I want to use the following Samsung charger:
Output 5.0V=1.55A
I don't need fast charging and I am planning on keeping this phone for a longer period of time thus want to use a standard charger to save the battery.
Kindly if anyone has technical knowledge about these readings please advise me whether I can use the above standard charger without damaging the battery if not what standard charger should I buy for my phone?
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Read here:
https://yournexttech.com/fast-charger-regular-phone/
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Read here:
https://yournexttech.com/fast-charger-regular-phone/
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Thank you but I asked the opposite, I want to charge the fast charging phone with a standard charger. The question was whether my specific charger with 5.0V = 1.55A be safe for my phone battery.
Also to add: the reason I mentioned the Volts and Amperage details is because I don't have much knowledge about it. I remember using a different charger (on laptop) with only slight differences and it caused the battery to bloat. So I need to be sure this Samsung charger won't harm Xiaomi's battery lol
Update: I have been charging 'Mi Note 10 lite' with Samsung Standard Charger (1.55A 5V) but the charger is getting too... hot, not sure whether its affecting battery life (battery is not getting hot) though.
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Just curious if there is an app or something similar that would show how many amps are being provided when charging through a wall charger/USB powered hub? The reason I ask is that I'm thinking of buying a powered USB 3.0 Hub. The adapter that came with our phone says it's 2 Amp, so I am assuming our phone can pull 2 amps for charging. Just wanted to verify in some way that a 2 Amp dedicated port would really work for this phone.
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Just curious if there is an app or something similar that would show how many amps are being provided when charging through a wall charger/USB powered hub? The reason I ask is that I'm thinking of buying a powered USB 3.0 Hub. The adapter that came with our phone says it's 2 Amp, so I am assuming our phone can pull 2 amps for charging. Just wanted to verify in some way that a 2 Amp dedicated port would really work for this phone.
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When I get home, I'll download the kernel source and see if I can find out how much power it draws during charging. I doubt however, that it will draw 2A during charging as most chargers are rated to supply more power than the phone will accept.
Yeah, 2A seems like that could melt a battery charging that fast. Someone sent me a private message and told me to try CurrentWidget. I threw that on the phone and it registers as 1A while charging. But it appears like the widget doesn't break it down with decimals. For instance it could be charging with 1.8A and wouldn't know it. I put it in a standard USB port and it reported as charging with 0 Amps but the battery was indeed charging.
I took a quick look at the N7100 (International Note 2) source posted on Github by CM and it looks like AC charger is 650mA, USB is 450mA. It's a little hard to tell what exactly it's using for charging, so I'll try to verify that when I get home and have a chance to take a better look.
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Yeah, 2A seems like that could melt a battery charging that fast. Someone sent me a private message and told me to try CurrentWidget. I threw that on the phone and it registers as 1A while charging. But it appears like the widget doesn't break it down with decimals. For instance it could be charging with 1.8A and wouldn't know it. I put it in a standard USB port and it reported as charging with 0 Amps but the battery was indeed charging.
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A 3100mAh Lithium Ion battery can easily handle a full 2A charge rate. The ideal charge profile for Lithium Ion is a CC/CV profile, starts at constant current between like 3V and 4V, which most LI batters can take a rate of 1C, meaning it can handle a charge rate of 3.1A, recommended charge rate to achieve the most possible charge/discharge cycles is usually 0.2C so for a 3100mAh battery that would be 620mA. Once the charge gets to the correct voltage it gets to constant voltage and charges until termination current usually in the 100mA range. So yes, it can handle a 2A charge no problem.
Hey there. I very much appreciate that breakdown. Makes me wonder why they dropped the amps so much during charge.
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recommended charge rate to achieve the most possible charge/discharge cycles is usually 0.2C so for a 3100mAh battery that would be 620mA.
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If this is true (first time I've seen this anywhere), that would line up great with the 650mA max charge rate I found. Also, I downloaded the VZW source, and it doesn't look to significantly different from the N7100 source, at least as far as the charger stuff is concerned, so I would say they both probably have a max charge rate of 650mA.
I appreciate the info and time you both put into this. I guess it means a 2A usb port will be slight overkill. Even changing the charge rate to a higher value seems to indicate a lower battery life. Makes you wonder how apple did it's math for the ipads charge rate. The battery must be huge to accommodate a 1.1A charge rate. Or they are sacrificing battery life for fast charging.
Wont the kernel dictate the charge rate no matter what the charger is rated at?
If the kernel is set for a charge rate of 650mA (0.650A), then why does the Note 2 have a more powerful 2A wall charger, while the GS3 has a 1A wall charger.
FAUguy said:
If the kernel is set for a charge rate of 650mA (0.650A), then why does the Note 2 have a more powerful 2A wall charger, while the GS3 has a 1A wall charger.
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The original nook color 7" came with a 2A wall charger and that was 2 years ago... both my note 2 and nook color charge about the same rate (quick to 99% and slow to 100). The charger is probably cheaper to make at 2A rather than anything and plus it could be used to charge future devices. Also if you used a 1A charger to charge the note it might possibly get warm/hot from running at near full capacity.
Im using my OLD blackberry 700mA wall charger to charge the phone at night while im sleeping. No problems with heat.
Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
WolwX said:
Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
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for few days i went to jarir book store on KSA . I found Charger good price also 2 USB 5 volt 2.4 Amber ... compatiable with mate 7 and faster from orignal ...
just to know more fasting to charge wil damge your batter of mate 7 quickly .also orignal 2 A will damge
for me I charging with Iphone charge 1A good for batter and Stander and low risk to Device
If you want proper charging, then always use the accessories coming with that product. It is tested for sure and good. Other than that, you can use any charger delivering the same charge. The original charger is 5 volt, 2 Ampere. Don't use anything above 2 amperes as it may damage the device. Below that will charge it slowly.
BTW, why you don't want to use the original charger?
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I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
Is it safe for battery life of Mate 7?
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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djmaxi said:
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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Can you test it with ampere (free in gplay) i don't think it will charge over 1800mA so that it acts like a normal 2a charger
Fast charging
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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PoopDonkey said:
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
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Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
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Why don't you buy a powerbank? I can advice you the xiaomi 16000mah. That one charges fast and you can be mobile.
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps. Batteries will automatically lose cells from charge cycles and by the time you feel the effects of the battery going bad, you would have already moved on to the next device for the next person to worry about. And saying to use the Stock Charger isn't really good enough as the Stock charger doesn't serve as a Car charger also. If you want to charge your phone quick, and you already have a 2 Amp charger, Check your microUSB cable. Don't use junk cables, buy quality or use the cable you received with the device. You get what you pay for. Fast Charging won't work as the Charger has a chip inside that communicates with the Phone and Device. Also, when buying a charger, don't just randomly buy a charger online, Make sure its UL Tested. Even if it says UL tested, there should be a test number on that UL Label, take it a step further and google it and make sure it matches the charger specs and passes as knockoff chargers are notorious for copying other chargers Regulatory icons to make it seem authentic. You don't want to buy a junk charger that ends up burning your house down or gives you a very bad 120 Volt shock through the microUSB cable that would also kill and fry your phone.
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I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
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1.6A is nothing.. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours
one friend conected his phone to a hi suite, he went to repair sistem or something like that, and it pop out an option of QUICK CHARGE... even he doesent know how that hapends, now his phone charges faster. he is on b331 rom
cyvr1 said:
Hi,
that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
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so much misinformation
this post is the only one who gets it right.
Kalemucu said:
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
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You have not read my earlier post or you did not understand it. Changing the charger on the Mate 7 will have NO effect (zero, nada) on the time required to charge your phone except the charger delivers less then appr. 1.6A. Then it would take longer and evetually kill the charger. The Mate 7 uses a Kirin chip which has no fastcharge implemented. Samsung uses Qualcomm Chips with implemented fastcharge technology. The charger (in fact a power supply) and the phone/CPU/charge controller need to communicate with each other, otherwise fastcharge will not be activated (the reason fastcharge with charge-only cables does not work because they lack the required data cables for communication).
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps.
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Wrong. Correct would be "I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v." The amps of the charger don't matter at all -> amps are PULLED by the phone not pushed to the phone. You could use a charger with 100 or 1000 amps and it would not hurt your phone a bit as long as it is only charged with 5 Volts.
More amps (>1.6A) on the charger do not improve the time for charging one second.
1.6A is nothing. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours.
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Yes, and that won't change one bit even if you use the best and most expensive charger and a 1000$ cable. The Mate 7 is limited by its hardware (built in charge controller) and pulls max 1.6A. End of story.
As long as you don't understand how charging works you will spend 100's of bucks for cables and chargers to no avail.
The only reason, why charging with some charges is quicker than with others is that those chargers actually deliver the amps they are supposed to deliver. There are a lot of cheap/bad chargers out there which are labelled with 5V/2A but only deliver a fraction of the amps. You can identify those chargers easily because they get extremly hot. I use a 2A charger from Aukey which gets only lukeworm.
Hi!
I have a doubt, these type of USB-C --> USB-C charger can charge the S8+ quickly than the original charger provided with the device?
http://www.sony.com.sg/electronics/portable-charger-accessories/cp-ad3
I know that S8+ is not use the USB-C charging protocols and use Samsung AFC, because this my doubt if buying this will be a improve or only a waster of money.
Thanks!
I doubt that charger will be any faster than the Samsung provided charger.
Thanks, I get one to make some test. I install the Ampere app, I don´t know if this app is a nice measure tool, but is almost the same that original charger, also a bit faster. Original in test charger session show in the Ampere app a max of 990mA, and this Sony 1020-1100mA on different sessions on both.
I'm cool with the stock charger. I'm not trying to make my phone explode and burn my house down. I'll stick with Samsung's recommendation. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.
Original Samsung charger will charge your device at 9v whereas the Sony charger will only charge at 5v, however the new USB c standard allows 3A charging so the power you get from both chargers will be very similar. I use both types of charger and find it hard to find much difference in charge times. Ampere can't be used accurately as it's only showing the charge current not voltage and you need both to calculate power and compare the 2 accurately.
Can I charge Xiaomi Note 10 Lite with a standard Samsung charger? Following are the specifications of chargers
Xiaomi Note 10 Lite came with 30w Fast Charger, following is whats written on the charger:
Output 5.0V=3.0A 15.0W/9.0V=3.0A 27.0W/12.0V=2.25A 27.0W/20.0V=1.35A 27.0W/10.0V=3.0A Max 30.0W Max
I want to use the following Samsung charger:
Output 5.0V=1.55A
I don't need fast charging and I am planning on keeping this phone for a longer period of time thus want to use a standard charger to save the battery.
Kindly if anyone has technical knowledge about these readings please advise me whether I can use the above standard charger without damaging the battery if not what standard charger should I buy for my phone?
Update: I have been charging 'Mi Note 10 lite' with Samsung Standard Charger (1.55A 5V) but the charger is getting too... hot, not sure whether its affecting battery life (battery is not getting hot) though.
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Can I charge Xiaomi Note 10 Lite with a standard Samsung charger? Following are the specifications of chargers
Xiaomi Note 10 Lite came with 30w Fast Charger, following is whats written on the charger:
Output 5.0V=3.0A 15.0W/9.0V=3.0A 27.0W/12.0V=2.25A 27.0W/20.0V=1.35A 27.0W/10.0V=3.0A Max 30.0W Max
I want to use the following Samsung charger:
Output 5.0V=1.55A
I don't need fast charging and I am planning on keeping this phone for a longer period of time thus want to use a standard charger to save the battery.
Kindly if anyone has technical knowledge about these readings please advise me whether I can use the above standard charger without damaging the battery if not what standard charger should I buy for my phone?
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Yes you can use any charger.
1.55A Charger gets hot because mi note 10 lite can support up to 30w so it get all the "juice" of this weak charger..
Technicaly the battery life will be even better with slower chargings.. but xiaomi batteries are very good in my experience and everything official (like 30w charging) will not harm the battery.
Im phone technician btw.
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Yes you can use any charger.
1.55A Charger gets hot because mi note 10 lite can support up to 30w so it get all the "juice" of this weak charger..
Technicaly the battery life will be even better with slower chargings.. but xiaomi batteries are very good in my experience and everything official (like 30w charging) will not harm the battery.
Im phone technician btw.
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Thank you.
- Are you sure this charger getting very hot is not of any concern and will not hurt the note 10 lite battery?
- Also is this dangerous for the charger? It doesn't get hot with the Samsung pone it came up with?
- I am worried because in the past one of my laptop's battery bloated because I used a charger with 19V instead of 19.5V. it shouldn't hurt the battery by some experts but I guess it did in my case probably because battery was inside laptop all the time while I was using AC power, although laptop had a feature to disconnect battery when fully charged but in my case battery still got bloated.
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Thank you.
- Are you sure this charger getting very hot is not of any concern and will not hurt the note 10 lite battery?
- Also is this dangerous for the charger? It doesn't get hot with the Samsung pone it came up with?
- I am worried because in the past one of my laptop's battery bloated because I used a charger with 19V instead of 19.5V. it shouldn't hurt the battery by some experts but I guess it did in my case probably because battery was inside laptop all the time while I was using AC power, although laptop had a feature to disconnect battery when fully charged but in my case battery still got bloated.
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volts matter.. you can damage a device and its battery with more volts than it supports.. about amps , the device will get as much as it can.. for example if u plug a 5volt10 amp on mi note 10 lite it will get 5 volt and 3 amps, and the charger will not get hot
mi note 10 lite can handle from 5 to 20 volt.
The only concern is about the charger because it give all the power it have.. but i dont think samsung charger will blow up they got all protections.. your phone gets as much as the charger can give (5v 1.55amp) but i suggest you buy a stronger charger so it can charge cooler
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volts matter.. you can damage a device and its battery with more volts than it supports.. about amps , the device will get as much as it can.. for example if u plug a 5volt10 amp on mi note 10 lite it will get 5 volt and 3 amps, and the charger will not get hot
mi note 10 lite can handle from 5 to 20 volt.
The only concern is about the charger because it give all the power it have.. but i dont think samsung charger will blow up they got all protections.. your phone gets as much as the charger can give (5v 1.55amp) but i suggest you buy a stronger charger so it can charge cooler
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Thank you. Btw I was using less volts charger 19V while laptop required 19.5V, I was told slightly less volts don't matter but boom a year later we find a pregnant battery.
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Thank you. Btw I was using less volts charger 19V while laptop required 19.5V, I was told slightly less volts don't matter but boom a year later we find a pregnant battery.
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Less volts can't harm.. Laptop batteries are fragile and they die after 2-3 years.. To live longer you have to remove it from laptop when you are not using it (the battery if charger is plugged)
+1 TO ABOVE, won't be issues. Worst case scenario charger may die, not the phone battery.
Hi Guys,
I know we always have to use the default charger but this is also a fact that the fast charger is not always good for the phone's battery life. We can use it sometimes when we are really required fast charging.
I have a Xiaomi original charger 5V, 2A. I use to charge my device 20-80% with this charger. My phone will not get heat up like it compared to the situation when I charge with a fast charger.
Please tell me, is there any problem if I'm not using the default charger that comes in the box with the phone? I'm using that cable but with the Xiaomi slow standard charger. Will it be safe for both the phone and charger?
Thanks,
Serecomputing said:
Hi Guys,
I know we always have to use the default charger but this is also a fact that the fast charger is not always good for the phone's battery life. We can use it sometimes when we are really required fast charging.
I have a Xiaomi original charger 5V, 2A. I use to charge my device 20-80% with this charger. My phone will not get heat up like it compared to the situation when I charge with a fast charger.
Please tell me, is there any problem if I'm not using the default charger that comes in the box with the phone? I'm using that cable but with the Xiaomi slow standard charger. Will it be safe for both the phone and charger?
Thanks,
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I AM USING XIAOMI 18 WATT POWER BANK WITH ORIGINAL XIAOMI CABLE AND I ALSO BOUGHT 50 WATT POWER BANK SO I CAN CHARGE MY DEVICE AT 33 WATT WITH 50 WATT Xiaomi POWERBANK COZ IT SUPPORTMax 33 watt charging and whenever i play games i use 18 watt powerbank to charge so it reduces heat.. . I didn’t face any issue …but never use fast charging while playing high graphics demanding games.sometimes while playing games if battery low then i use 18 watt powerbank to charge while play…
yeah thanks for the reply.
sometimes, in the case of need, I will use the fast charger otherwise I will always go with standard 5v 2A charger.