Hi,
I would like to buy this device which has become unavailable in Europe. So I should get an unlocked US version (AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile), I just have no idea what LTE bands they have, nor how it works for updates for these variants.
Thanks to anyone who wants to help this noob
4ngl09669 said:
Hi,
I would like to buy this device which has become unavailable in Europe. So I should get an unlocked US version (AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile), I just have no idea what LTE bands they have, nor how it works for updates for these variants.
Thanks to anyone who wants to help this noob
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Check out this link:. https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=6216
I would imagine your would get updates on the schedule of the service provider that it originally was sold from. Updates from providers are usually behind factory unlocked versions. I would see if I could find one that was an international unlocked version.
scienceguylabs said:
Check out this link:. https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=6216
I would imagine your would get updates on the schedule of the service provider that it originally was sold from. Updates from providers are usually behind factory unlocked versions. I would see if I could find one that was an international unlocked version.
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THX!
The version most similar to the international version is the Canadian, precisely Lmv600tm2x (from what I understand)
4ngl09669 said:
THX!
The version most similar to the international version is the Canadian, precisely Lmv600tm2x (from what I understand)
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It doesn't look like LG released an international model of the phone. I found a few on eBay that started they were unlocked and would work internationally though.
scienceguylabs said:
It doesn't look like LG released an international model of the phone. I found a few on eBay that started they were unlocked and would work internationally though.
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Yes, in fact he did not release them, unfortunately. They are all connected to some telephone operator ... However, the Canadian model has almost all global bands, which (it seems) the US models do not have.
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Hey,
A friend that's down from the UK wanted to buy a phone here in the US, but I was wondering: will the international version (or the tmobile version) work fine there? His carrier is specifically Orange. I couldn't find specific information on what frequencies they use, so I thought it'd be better to ask. Thanks
If it's International it will work
kennypu said:
Hey,
A friend that's down from the UK wanted to buy a phone here in the US, but I was wondering: will the international version (or the tmobile version) work fine there? His carrier is specifically Orange. I couldn't find specific information on what frequencies they use, so I thought it'd be better to ask. Thanks
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Your title says "can I use the international version in the UK?", but your question seems to ask "can I use the international version in the US?"
The answer to both questions is yes.
I have the international version (i9100), and live in the US and have been using it on AT&T for quite some time.
It can also work on T-Mobile USA's network, but will only get Edge data speeds on that network due to T-Mobile USA using the AWS band for high speed mobile data. (the AWS band requires a band the i9100 doesn't receive)
Edit to add: I just re-read the line that says "A friend that's down from the UK wanted to buy a phone here in the US, but I was wondering: will the international version (or the tmobile version) work fine there?"... Does this mean he wants to buy a T-Mobile USA phone and try to take it back to Europe? I don't think I'd recommend that for the reason I cited above for why the i9100 doesn't work for high speed data on T-Mobile USA's network. T-Mobile USA's Galaxy S II variant is the SGH-T989, which is a totally different phone, that works on different frequencies. So I guess; can you ask your question a bit more clearly?
ctomgee said:
Your title says "can I use the international version in the UK?", but your question seems to ask "can I use the international version in the US?"
The answer to both questions is yes.
I have the international version (i9100), and live in the US and have been using it on AT&T for quite some time.
It can also work on T-Mobile USA's network, but will only get Edge data speeds on that network due to T-Mobile USA using the AWS band for high speed mobile data. (the AWS band requires a band the i9100 doesn't receive)
Edit to add: I just re-read the line that says "A friend that's down from the UK wanted to buy a phone here in the US, but I was wondering: will the international version (or the tmobile version) work fine there?"... Does this mean he wants to buy a T-Mobile USA phone and try to take it back to Europe? I don't think I'd recommend that for the reason I cited above for why the i9100 doesn't work for high speed data on T-Mobile USA's network. T-Mobile USA's Galaxy S II variant is the SGH-T989, which is a totally different phone, that works on different frequencies. So I guess; can you ask your question a bit more clearly?
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sorry for the confusion, but yes your edit is correct: a friend wants to buy a phone here, and take it back to the UK for use.
kennypu said:
sorry for the confusion, but yes your edit is correct: a friend wants to buy a phone here, and take it back to the UK for use.
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Hmm. Again, I wouldn't recommend it. From what I know, GSM carriers in the US tend to favor different frequencies (850/1900 on AT&T, 1700/2100 on T-mobile) than GSM carriers in Europe. (GSM 900/1800)
Some phones have enough band cross-over that they can be bought and used on the network he wants, but without doing extensive research into whatever model phone he is interested in, and also what band frequencies his carrier specifically uses, it would be a guessing game.
For example, I did about 2 weeks worth of heavy research before I bought an unlocked I9100 to use in the US on AT&T's network.
I've seen plenty of people buy the same phone to use on T-mobile USA, only to find out they can only get Edge data speed, and wonder why.
ctomgee said:
Hmm. Again, I wouldn't recommend it. From what I know, GSM carriers in the US tend to favor different frequencies (850/1900 on AT&T, 1700/2100 on T-mobile) than GSM carriers in Europe. (GSM 900/1800)
Some phones have enough band cross-over that they can be bought and used on the network he wants, but without doing extensive research into whatever model phone he is interested in, and also what band frequencies his carrier specifically uses, it would be a guessing game.
For example, I did about 2 weeks worth of heavy research before I bought an unlocked I9100 to use in the US on AT&T's network.
I've seen plenty of people buy the same phone to use on T-mobile USA, only to find out they can only get Edge data speed, and wonder why.
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ironically, I did exactly did what you mentioned (tmo + international version). From what I gathered, It looks like europe does support GT-i9100, just the P varient, which seem to have the same exact hardware + NFC. So I think I can safely assume it will work, but I would rather get an answer from someone with more knowledge.
kennypu said:
ironically, I did exactly did what you mentioned (tmo + international version). From what I gathered, It looks like europe does support GT-i9100, just the P varient, which seem to have the same exact hardware + NFC. So I think I can safely assume it will work, but I would rather get an answer from someone with more knowledge.
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Um... I don't think you get it.
The I9100 is sold pretty much everywhere BUT the US. It's sold in the UK, in fact. Mine came from the UK.
The only difference between the I9100 and the I9100P is the I9100P has NFC hardware built into it, and the I9100 does not. Otherwise, the I9100 and I9100P operate on the same frequencies.
The US variants of the Galaxy S II are completely different hardware.
The AT&T variant is the SGH-I777.
The T-Mobile USA variant is the SGH-T989.
The Sprint variant is the SPH-D710.
The US Cellular variant is the SCH-R760.
(those last two are CDMA variants, and may not even work in Europe)
You can see nearly all the variants on the wikipedia page.
so it's safe to assume it will work, got it. thank you very much.
kennypu said:
so it's safe to assume it will work, got it. thank you very much.
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Well, if he buys an i9100, yes.
If he buys any of the US variants, not so much.
I'm interested in the straight up, non-carrier version of the North American model of the LG G5. Not the carrier version, that will surely come pre-loaded with useless carrier apps. I made that mistake with the Galaxy S6 last year, and yeah I got my free year of Netflix, at the cost of my sanity dealing with invasive pre-loaded apps.
This year I want to buy a LG G5 in it's simplified glory, unlocked.
Does anyone know specifically where I can buy what I'm looking for? I don't want to buy a random G5 on eBay, and then have it turn out to be like a T mobile version or something.
B&H is advertising an unlocked North America LG G5 (model: RS988) on their site: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
One caveat, they state that the phone's hardware supports North American carriers' GSM and CDMA networks, but they also state that its up to the carrier to allow activation of the device on their networks. Just because it supports Verizon's LTE bands and CDMA, doesn't mean they will let you use it.
Also, it's too early to tell whether or not the bootloader will be unlockable, which is a requirement to get root on Android 6.0/Marshmallow.
Canadian Model H831
LG website shows Canadian model: LGH831
Att us - h820
this is one thing I hate about LG, there is so many different models. Why cant they just slim the models?
billybob275 said:
B&H is advertising an unlocked North America LG G5 (model: RS988) on their site: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
One caveat, they state that the phone's hardware supports North American carriers' GSM and CDMA networks, but they also state that its up to the carrier to allow activation of the device on their networks. Just because it supports Verizon's LTE bands and CDMA, doesn't mean they will let you use it.
Also, it's too early to tell whether or not the bootloader will be unlockable, which is a requirement to get root on Android 6.0/Marshmallow.
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Do you know what the RS988 price is or if B&H accepts PayPal?
Chocolina said:
Do you know what the RS988 price is or if B&H accepts PayPal?
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Sorry, I'm not sure yet. They will probably post it on their site in the next week or so.
billybob275 said:
B&H is advertising an unlocked North America LG G5 (model: RS988) on their site: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
One caveat, they state that the phone's hardware supports North American carriers' GSM and CDMA networks, but they also state that its up to the carrier to allow activation of the device on their networks. Just because it supports Verizon's LTE bands and CDMA, doesn't mean they will let you use it.
Also, it's too early to tell whether or not the bootloader will be unlockable, which is a requirement to get root on Android 6.0/Marshmallow.
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i hope i can use on a verizon mvno and i also hope that the boot loader will be unlockable.
anyone know if i will be able to take advantage of the pre order deal if you ordered from them?
Verizon G5 = VS987
PROcede said:
Verizon G5 = VS987
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Some models are: F700K/L/S, H820, H830, H831, H850, H860, H868, LS992, US992, RS988 and VS987
Full list of models and bands each phone supports can be found in my "General Thread" here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/info-autos-g5-thread-t3350648
T-Mobile USA is identified as LG-H830.
Does anyone who has a dual SIM version H860 or H860N or any other knows if when using only 1 SIM you have the no SIM icon on top (because of the second SIM empty slot)?
Thanks
gsanches said:
Does anyone who has a dual SIM version H860 or H860N or any other knows if when using only 1 SIM you have the no SIM icon on top (because of the second SIM empty slot)?
Thanks
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I have the H860N. I only use the SIM1 slot and there's no such empty SIM icon at the top.
Sent from my LG-H860 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Not sure if RS988 is equal to US992.
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
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Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
henklbr said:
Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
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The document I linked shows what each CSC actually stands for.
You can link it in the first post if you want.
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
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This is brilliant. Thanks! Have been trying to find a complete, intelligible list for a few days now. Should have started at XDA of course ...
Small correction: XEH stands for Hungarian unlocked only, Vodafone, Telenor and T-Mobile all have their own CSC codes (VDH, PAN and TMH, respectively - PAN because Telenor used to be Pannon GSM Hungary).
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
Almighty1 said:
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
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Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
Sent from my G8142
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Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
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Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
Almighty1 said:
Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
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That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
murtaza02 said:
That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
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Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
Almighty1 said:
Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
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Well actually, Samsung locked everyone out so it doesn't really matter which variant you have, both the N950U (carrier variants) and N950U1 (unlocked variants) have locked bootloaders.
All of them should work fine outside the US when roaming, wouldn't really recommend it if you live outside the US though.
Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
Almighty1 said:
Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
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That is correct. Chinese variant and Korean variants have the most storage options while the rest of the world is left with 64GB only.
Sent from my G8142
Went to the shop to buy a Huawei Mate 20 Pro intending to use it in Asia (Taiwan) most of the time and got warned by the kind sales lady that their models (lya-l29) explicitly state that they are for European sim only.
AFAIK with my limited knowledge and experience that only USA bands are different from the rest of the world, and if it works in the European market it should work fine in various Asian countries as well.
Can anyone confirm this to reassure my doubts?
oraclexl said:
Went to the shop to buy a Huawei Mate 20 Pro intending to use it in Asia (Taiwan) most of the time and got warned by the kind sales lady that their models (lya-l29) explicitly state that they are for European sim only.
AFAIK with my limited knowledge and experience that only USA bands are different from the rest of the world, and if it works in the European market it should work fine in various Asian countries as well.
Can anyone confirm this to reassure my doubts?
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Phone comes unlocked, and locks to carriers IF on a contract. Many people have gone L29 dual sim and it works with ANY GSM carrier. As long as paid in full
oraclexl said:
AFAIK with my limited knowledge and experience that only USA bands are different from the rest of the world, and if it works in the European market it should work fine in various Asian countries as well.
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Unless network-locked by a carrier, it should be fine so long as your network's bands are supported by the device.
I would suggest checking what bands your carrier uses and comparing.
You can check the bands on FrequencyCheck, as well as other places.
ONikku said:
Unless network-locked by a carrier, it should be fine so long as your network's bands are supported by the device.
I would suggest checking what bands your carrier uses and comparing.
You can check the bands on FrequencyCheck, as well as other places.
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Thanks for the good link
Thank you all!
Hey guys when i go to Sony website and look up bootloader unlock instructions. it says the US variant is locked by verizon.
this is the version i have. Does that mean i cannot unlock bootloader? do i need to return my phone and the global version? The guides posted on here don't seem to mention the model number as if it matters.
Unlock Bootloader - Open Devices - Sony Developer World
developer.sony.com
Unless anything has changed, it is generally known that Verizon phones have a locked bootloader for customer security and in Verizon's interest.
ze7zez said:
Unless anything has changed, it is generally known that Verizon phones have a locked bootloader for customer security and in Verizon's interest.
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Yea I am a first time sony buyer. the phone i have is actually the 5 IV which we don't have a forum for yet.
I usually am buying older phones with established guides and hacks to unlock on here. So i simply missed this since i didn't see it plastered everywhere on the front page of the some other sony forums. my bad.
I am not surprised. just ordered the wrong one thinking it didn't matter for the sony brand.
returning mine now. and ordering the 72.
thud1 said:
Yea I am a first time sony buyer. the phone i have is actually the 5 IV which we don't have a forum for yet.
I usually am buying older phones with established guides and hacks to unlock on here. So i simply missed this since i didn't see it plastered everywhere on the front page of the some other sony forums. my bad.
I am not surprised. just ordered the wrong one thinking it didn't matter for the sony brand.
returning mine now. and ordering the 72.
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It's the same reason I returned US version and bought international version ct72 . So make sure about bands supports for 71 it has 66 which is TMobile and band 41 which i get some good speed depending on the location I'm in.
same here I wanted to root and Use Repainter app and change fonts and I did have the CT62, but I return it back to Sony and bought the CT72, sad that sony doesn`t allow the bootloader to be unlocked on the CT62.
2015Ducatimulti said:
same here I wanted to root and Use Repainter app and change fonts and I did have the CT62, but I return it back to Sony and bought the CT72, sad that sony doesn`t allow the bootloader to be unlocked on the CT62.
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Right i thought they allowed bootloader unlocked on any Xperia really sucks that they didn't allowed it on US specially if I'm paying 1600+ on it lol
raven213 said:
Right i thought they allowed bootloader unlocked on any Xperia really sucks that they didn't allowed it on US specially if I'm paying 1600+ on it lol
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my exact thoughts, 1600.00, no thanks, buy the CT72 and save some money, only thing is you don`t get the USA warranty when you buy the Non-US version, and some missing 5G band`s and the missing MMWave bands
As @2015Ducatimulti mentioned, there is something missing there between the two version.
There is Hardware differences between CT72 and CT62. The US version supports has mmW support and also more bands that are available in the US such as band 2, 66, and 71 used by TMO in addition to mmW 260 and 261.
if your carrier does not have use of these bands and mmW frequencies, then the CT72 should still work as long as you flash the US version ROM. otherwise, you will have coverage issues due and high call drops due to the limited US band support
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As @2015Ducatimulti mentioned, there is something missing there between the two version.
There is Hardware differences between CT72 and CT62. The US version supports has mmW support and also more bands that are available in the US such as band 2, 66, and 71 used by TMO in addition to mmW 260 and 261.
if your carrier does not have use of these bands and mmW frequencies, then the CT72 should still work as long as you flash the US version ROM. otherwise, you will have coverage issues due and high call drops due to the limited US band support
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Flashing US ROM on ct72 will give you signal issues. So far i haven't found a way to get signal working on it.
That might make sense since the RF hardware is different between them and hence the software might not work as expected
FWIW, I just got the Xperia 1 IV, CT-72, using it on AT&T (primary subscriber, no MVNO). Just using the stock ROM, didn't flash any other ROMS.
So far I appear to have 5G as well as VoLTE. No VoWIFI, but I don't care about that anyway.
I'll use it for another week or so to see if AT&T decides to shutdown service for a non whitelisted device, but so far so good. And it was $840 new, vs $1600 for the USA version, so a HUGE cost difference
I by the way did first have to do the trick where you disable dual-sim and only use the primary SIM slot.
Sakete said:
FWIW, I just got the Xperia 1 IV, CT-72, using it on AT&T (primary subscriber, no MVNO). Just using the stock ROM, didn't flash any other ROMS.
So far I appear to have 5G as well as VoLTE. No VoWIFI, but I don't care about that anyway.
I'll use it for another week or so to see if AT&T decides to shutdown service for a non whitelisted device, but so far so good. And it was $840 new, vs $1600 for the USA version, so a HUGE cost difference
I by the way did first have to do the trick where you disable dual-sim and only use the primary SIM slot.
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Is your CT-72 still working on AT&T?
tonysunshine said:
Is your CT-72 still working on AT&T?
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Mine is still going fine on Att elite
David.k20z1 said:
Mine is still going fine on Att elite
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XQ-CT72 No go on Cricket. Data works fine but no calls.