Related
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/09/asus-eee-pad-transformer-stand-and-adapters-surface-on-amazon-ge/
Ordered mine already just in case.
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using Tapatalk
You missed one word in the title: New Accessories NOT coming
ASUS has no intent of releasing accessories that reduce dock sales. This is a fraud and untrue just like everyone else selling vapor on the internet.
If you buy these you are VERY naive, because no one in the WORLD has ever demoed one of these items. Selling these items is a 1st class fraud.
ROFLMFAO.
Well the power adapters are already available so why not other accessories?
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using Tapatalk
miguelantonio said:
Well the power adapters are already available so why not other accessories?
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Experience.
Let us see how you feel about pre-order in about 3-4 months.
Good luck.
Man, you sound bitter. If it happens it happens, if not, so be it. Not the end of the world, I'll live with it or buy a different tab. Problem solved.
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using Tapatalk
miguelantonio said:
Man, you sound bitter. If it happens it happens, if not, so be it. Not the end of the world, I'll live with it or buy a different tab. Problem solved.
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I am not bitter whatsoever. I refuse to accept the lies.
ASUS is completely unprofessional in their TF101 accessory manufacturing and consumer marketing, except AC adapters & cables. I prefer not to give a list of examples why and waste my time.
Accessories to not fall off the assembly line. There are manufacturing dates, based on a business process, and either availability dates or delays and problems. However, ASUS is acting unprofessional because they provide no availability dates nor mention of delays on the items mentioned by the OP.
It is easy to understand delays and problems since we are dealing with a new OS, e.g. Android v3.x and new host functionality. But, ASUS has no excuse whatsoever to say nothing. Especially since other tablet manufacturers are currently shipping equivalent components on the same Android OS levels.
The fact official ASUS resellers are selling these components without any factual ETA dates is fraud, plain and simple. You do not have to be bitter nor upset to recognize this fact. ASUS makes the choice to be unprofessional, or not.
Again, good luck with your pre-order.
Bob Smith42 said:
You missed one word in the title: New Accessories NOT coming
ASUS has no intent of releasing accessories that reduce dock sales. This is a fraud and untrue just like everyone else selling vapor on the internet.
If you buy these you are VERY naive, because no one in the WORLD has ever demoed one of these items. Selling these items is a 1st class fraud.
ROFLMFAO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
WTH? They are listed on Amazon. This isn't some mom+pop outfit.
There is zero risk in ordering. If for some reason they don't ship, you will be refunded.
Bob Smith42 said:
No, I am not bitter whatsoever. I refuse to accept the lies.
ASUS is completely unprofessional in their TF101 accessory manufacturing and consumer marketing, except AC adapters & cables. I prefer not to give a list of examples why and waste my time.
Accessories to not fall off the assembly line. There are manufacturing dates, based on a business process, and either availability dates or delays and problems. However, ASUS is acting unprofessional because they provide no availability dates nor mention of delays on the items mentioned by the OP.
It is easy to understand delays and problems since we are dealing with a new OS, e.g. Android v3.x and new host functionality. But, ASUS has no excuse whatsoever to say nothing. Especially since other tablet manufacturers are currently shipping equivalent components on the same Android OS levels.
The fact official ASUS resellers are selling these components without any factual ETA dates is fraud, plain and simple. You do not have to be bitter nor upset to recognize this fact. ASUS makes the choice to be unprofessional, or not.
Again, good luck with your pre-order.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow. Just...wow.
Really? Can you complain any more? Over accessories no less?
LZLandingZone said:
Wow. Just...wow.
Really? Can you complain any more? Over accessories no less?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For real. The tablet works wonderful. That's the main thing. Accessories soon or later will be released. No reason to rush.
tengtengvn said:
For real. The tablet works wonderful. That's the main thing. Accessories soon or later will be released. No reason to rush.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry I do not mean to offend. I agree the tablet works great. My complaint is for selling vapor without dates from ASUS, no matter if it is amazon.de.
I also agree there is no rush (especially with pre-order sales) because I expect, if the USB host and SD accessories are released with the *next* version of the tablet (Tegra 3), they will still work with our version tablets.
The first series of EEE PC had some internal redesigns that significantly effected compatibility of *internal* mini-PCIe components. The *external* TF101 components are a different case. I would be shocked if ASUS modified the design of their 40 pin proprietary cables.
In case no one noticed on amazon.de, the SD accessory has a picture showing it includes a USB host port, same price as USB host accessory.
Still don't understand, why waste money on this when u get a extended battery, keyboard, usb ports all rolled into one...?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
Because it may be cheaper for some people who don't have the $150 to spend on a dock, or don't want one.
since ps3 controllers work over BT now...no need for usb connectivity.
brunes said:
WTH? They are listed on Amazon. This isn't some mom+pop outfit.
There is zero risk in ordering. If for some reason they don't ship, you will be refunded.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Amazon Germany
You get a lot more for your money with a dock and they are actually available (psssst Now).
LZLandingZone said:
Because it may be cheaper for some people who don't have the $150 to spend on a dock, or don't want one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ditto
Buy 2 USB Connectors (Dock) and one SB your looking about 3 thirds of what the dock cost and no track pad no keyboard no extra battery life no keyboard short cuts...can't use but one at a time....that's one of the best things about a dock...can use them all (at the same time)
Mog said:
Still don't understand, why waste money on this when u get a extended battery, keyboard, usb ports all rolled into one...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Together with horrendous problems?
krash183 said:
since ps3 controllers work over BT now...no need for usb connectivity.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? You think that's the only thing anyone could want a usb port for?
DilloDroid said:
Amazon Germany
You get a lot more for your money with a dock and they are actually available (psssst Now).
Ditto
Buy 2 USB Connectors (Dock) and one SB your looking about 3 thirds of what the dock cost and no track pad no keyboard no extra battery life no keyboard short cuts...can't use but one at a time....that's one of the best things about a dock...can use them all (at the same time)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have some problem with people wanting other accessories? You like your dock. We get it. I want to watch movies when I'm wrenching in the garage, and the Display Stand takes up less space, and I don't want another $150 worth of fragile equipment sitting near all my power tools. You seem to think I should have to use the keyboard dock, whether I want to use the keyboard and touchpad, or not.
Also, Excalibur is preordering the USB adapters for $15.
LInk to all Asus Tablet accessories on ExcaliburOC
http://www.excaliberpc.com/computers/c-518/asus.html?m=23
I was able to pre-order docking station, usb port and sd card adapters, etc @ excaliberpc. Due to be released Aug, 17-25
Im buying the new transformer prime... but about 4 days ago i was heading out the door to buy an ipad 2 before a friend showed me this great device. So far in the last 4 days since i heard of this tablet ive told 20 different people about this and NO ONE knows about it, NO ONE!! not a soul, and who can blame them?
there's no commercials, there's almost no add campaign at all... there's not even a solid release date yet!!
im finding it hard to make an investment in this company.
I won't get into how much money Apple dunks into marketing their products. This all comes down to how much more they will gain by dumping millions on advertising it. Will they make 10x profit compared to the cost? If they can't get a good estimate, then most company chooses to just let online "press" and retailers advertise in their stead. See how it goes and promote it further. Most people learn about products on TV and the Internet, but what makes them want to buy a product is from knowing someone that owns it or have experienced it first hand. There's no reason for a corporation to invest in marketing a product if it is not a 100% sure hit. It has something to do with corporate decisions.
The EeePad Transformer was a pretty good device with AWESOME support. That is what Asus does. I can verify that is what Asus does best; slow at getting customers, but keeps them forever because they stay behind their products. If you ever purchase their video cards, or other hardware, you will find that Asus will treat you like family.
Apple may have good Customer Support but that lasts how long? 90 days without a warranty?
But also, this is a new product as its not just another Tablet. While current Transformer users love the product, it does seem a little unusual. The Transformer line-up will become a pretty big thing in the next few years I'm sure.
I was surprised that in a group of 20 people 2 recognised Asus Transformer for what it was and no one called it iPad. It was in Poland. I don't know if there were advertisements in TV for it or sth. It's in most big shops though, maybe people know it from their ad flyers (I don't know how it's called - ads for big stores that are left on your front door with information about new promotions).
Android tablets suffer from hardware-war. But the thing is that majority of consumers are mainly interested in CONTENT, not the device and its hardware. This is why Amazon Kindle jumped amazingly fast in sales even though their custom skin for Android and hardware of the device are relatively lacklustre.
Android makers mainly battle with their features and hardware. But that's not the way to make an impact.
I understand word of mouth is a great way to sell products, but since no one i know has ever heard of this thing, i got lucky that some random xbl friend happened to know about it. I find it hard to beleave that ASUS is a marketing geniuses that is using a unique marketing trick which is the opposite of what everyone else does.
Apple has everyone brain washed, including me a little while ago, and thats what ASUS should be striving for.. not hide in the shadows and let the fans do the selling.
blaziner18 said:
I understand word of mouth is a great way to sell products, but since no one i know has ever heard of this thing, i got lucky that some random xbl friend happened to know about it. I find it hard to beleave that ASUS is a marketing geniuses that is using a unique marketing trick which is the opposite of what everyone else does.
Apple has everyone brain washed, including me a little while ago, and thats what ASUS should be striving for.. not hide in the shadows and let the fans do the selling.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think anyone's trying to argue that Asus is a marketing genius. But they don't have anywhere close to Apple's financial resources. So instead of a billion dollar ad campaign, they spend that money on developing and continuously supporting their products. Apple may have people brainwashed, but Asus doesn't need to resort to that, as their products speak for themselves.
And if you look at the release of the Transformer 1, which sold much faster than it could be produced initially (and it looks like the same might be the case for the TF2), you can see they must be doing something right.
Thank god I won't have to see a billion other people holding the same device as me. I want to throw up when I see everyone on the bus using the same iPhone.
xTRICKYxx said:
Apple may have good Customer Support but that lasts how long? 90 days without a warranty?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just wanted to clarify that Apple products have a 1 year warranty included, and you can just drive to an Apple store to get it serviced, and not having to pay to RMA your products by mailing it and wait...
I've been thinking about this tablet, and it's release date wondering why it's not out yet.
All I can think of is
1) Want to get rid of inventory of TF101's
or
2) Really want to wait to get the ICS out with the tablet. Because it significantly increases the performance of the Tegra 3 quad core tablet. Maybe, if they release with Honeycomb, and the Quad core is slightly better performance than Dual core, they look overpriced, and low benchmarks get circulated around the web.
Both are pure speculation without but there has to be some reason it's not out yet.
farplaner said:
Just wanted to clarify that Apple products have a 1 year warranty included, and you can just drive to an Apple store to get it serviced, and not having to pay to RMA your products by mailing it and wait...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
..and have to deal with an Apple Store Genius. I've seen many smarmy Apple users, but these "Geniuses" take it to a new level... No thanks.
They remind me of the "Santa's helper Elves" in A Christmas Story (yeah, the one with Ralphie).
They re definitly waiting for ICS to launch the Prime. And they are right to do so. don't ship an unfinished product, especialy when hopes and demands are so high about it.
nook-color said:
I've been thinking about this tablet, and it's release date wondering why it's not out yet.
All I can think of is
1) Want to get rid of inventory of TF101's
or
2) Really want to wait to get the ICS out with the tablet. Because it significantly increases the performance of the Tegra 3 quad core tablet. Maybe, if they release with Honeycomb, and the Quad core is slightly better performance than Dual core, they look overpriced, and low benchmarks get circulated around the web.
Both are pure speculation without but there has to be some reason it's not out yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or they want to be sure they have plenty of stock, and that stock it where it's supposed to go, before releasing it. I imagine there's a lot of demand, and more places than ever wanting to sell it. Logistically, it's a lot of work.
Smyc151 said:
Or they want to be sure they have plenty of stock, and that stock it where it's supposed to go, before releasing it. I imagine there's a lot of demand, and more places than ever wanting to sell it. Logistically, it's a lot of work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is what I'm thinking is the case. The first time around, the TF101 was back-ordered for weeks and the dock didn't launch for a month after the tablet. This is not a fun situation to be in for the company or consumers. I'm sure that not being able to meet demand takes a toll on potential sales.
That said, it is also possible that they are wanting to deliver what had been rumored, since it was within their abilities to do. The tech blogs were making a lot of noise at the end of last month, beginning of this month about the Prime as being the first Tegra 3 and first ICS tablet to market. It does not seem out of the question that Asus would try to live up to the rumors if possible, especially while trying to justify a higher price-point than the original.
well this is making me feel better about ASUS, but my last argument is more of a nuh-uhh then anything else. I still say, even if they lack the resources there should be some small add campaign, a release date, internet adds. I was extremely lucky to find this product.
farplaner said:
Just wanted to clarify that Apple products have a 1 year warranty included, and you can just drive to an Apple store to get it serviced, and not having to pay to RMA your products by mailing it and wait...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To be fair, Asus has service centers all over their home country Taiwan that are similar to Apple's genius bars.
I think it's just because Asus is based in Taiwan that we don't see much of their advertising and great service. They seem to focus most of their efforts in their home country. If you go look around there you'll see Asus ads everywhere.
Just because they don't advertise; makes it a bad product. Most people buy IOS devices because they simply aren't geekish and just want a device that works ,(Not counting the ever annoying and ignorant iSheep/iFanboys).
What i love about Asus, is that the products speak for themselves.
I remember when the HTC Evo 4G had been announced but not yet released... and everyone was clamoring and *****ing, wondering why HTC & Sprint didn't bother with any pre-release advertising and hype. And look, it went to become one of the more popular Android offerings in recent history.
Don't sweat it...
Guys here in the US the Prime is 100% sold out on Amazon, has been since 48 hours from being made available. Doesn't matter if it has commercials or not, it's already making money and isn't even on shelves.
kristovaher said:
Android tablets suffer from hardware-war. But the thing is that majority of consumers are mainly interested in CONTENT, not the device and its hardware. This is why Amazon Kindle jumped amazingly fast in sales even though their custom skin for Android and hardware of the device are relatively lacklustre.
Android makers mainly battle with their features and hardware. But that's not the way to make an impact.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tegra 3 is better than the A5 Chip.
The GPU in Tegra 3 is actually better than the SGX543, but its 2 GPU not one which is why its benchmark is higher, if you half the score in GLBenchmark for iPad 2 you see that Tegra 3 is btter. So hardware Android isnt far behind.
Apple released their damn ipad3 to like 20 countries worldwide! Readily available by anyone who wants one.
Then there is everyone else. Just sending out notices and pictures of new devices but never coming to reality.
Should be coming soon. June / July for the New Asus TF700 etc. I know Acer announced their Acer IconiaTab A510 for preorder few days ago.
However, I haven't seen a preorder site yet.
Erusman said:
However, I haven't seen a preorder site yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A510-10s...TWKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332643694&sr=8-1
April 6th is supposed to be the release date.
BarryH_GEG said:
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A510-10s...TWKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332643694&sr=8-1
April 6th is supposed to be the release date.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you sir. Was looking for it.
Kal - El Series Devices
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_3_.28Kal-El.29_series
opentoe said:
Apple released their damn ipad3 to like 20 countries worldwide! Readily available by anyone who wants one.
Then there is everyone else. Just sending out notices and pictures of new devices but never coming to reality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Funny how the ipad is readily available, while the TF201 to this date is still hard to find..
junrider said:
Funny how the ipad is readily available, while the TF201 to this date is still hard to find..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apple "owns" Foxconn they get production priority over everyone else.
geech72 said:
Apple "owns" Foxconn they get production priority over everyone else.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Foxconn is big enough to support multiple companies. Do they even manufacture the prime?
Cozmo85 said:
Foxconn is big enough to support multiple companies. Do they even manufacture the prime?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. It's built by Pegatron which was formerly owned by Asus. Pegatron was pressured by Apple to stop building the Asus Zenbook, not the Prime.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/02/13/repor...-choose-sides-give-up-asustek-zenbook-orders/
Foxconn, Pegatron, and Quanta (Kindle Fire) are the three biggest outsourced manufacturers.
N
BarryH_GEG said:
No. It's built by Pegatron which was formerly owned by Asus. Pegatron was pressured by Apple to stop building the Asus Zenbook, not the Prime.
Foxconn, Pegatron, and Quanta (Kindle Fire) are the three biggest outsourced manufacturers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Irrespective of which plant produces the prime, the point is that apple exerts more influence in china than anyone else, I believe this article illustrates that point
Also, you can bet that apple had a finished units just being built and stockpiled for weeks / months before release. When i worked retail we would get new gadgets like a week or so before release date, meaning our warehouse got them aprox a month ahead of release date, meaning manufacturers had them being produced months in advance so they could be shipped and released.
TLDR: Apple has their **** in order, planned for huge release date, made hype, made sure that stock was there EVERYWHERE.
Asus, take note. This is what you should do for the TF700.
geech72 said:
N
Irrespective of which plant produces the prime, the point is that apple exerts more influence in china than anyone else, I believe this article illustrates that point
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gee, dictatorships getting along. Who'd 'a thunk it?
I work for Apple and yes it's definitely true that their proprietary business practices and mainstream successes has given them significant cash flow to heavily influence the productions levels in manufacturing and service outsourced businesses.
But I wouldn't ever attribute Apple's demand to another company's inability to meet their supply, especially not ASUS. Manufacturers are given enough notice for a project that they can forecast the necessary workforce to meet the demand for multiple major projects. The Chinese are gods at workforce management. Combine that with their highly concentrated urban population and the underlying cost of that workforce and that's why they are so successful in the electronics industry.
If I had to guess, ASUS is either working with Google on a highly prioritized device... or is probably just putting more time into engineering and testing like they should've done with the Prime.
So you build a new product from the ground up or you just change the screen resolution and GPU. Which one takes more time? Hence the reason the TF700 will be out soon. Not much change between the TF201 and the TF700 execpt resolution. Not much change between the new iPad and the iPad 2 execpt resolution.
Also to mention when you have 2 versions of the same product to make once every 2 years or so, it's a lot easier to mass produce.
theandies said:
So you build a new product from the ground up or you just change the screen resolution and GPU. Which one takes more time? Hence the reason the TF700 will be out soon. Not much change between the TF201 and the TF700 execpt resolution. Not much change between the new iPad and the iPad 2 execpt resolution.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, if you look at the button placement the TF700 is using a different PCB which means it's a different device. The TF300's PCB appears to be the same as the Prime's.
There is this brand new Samsung device... called Ipad 3.... Processor by Samsung and Screen by Samsung.
When they have finished producing this, Samsung will produce something similar for Android.
A Samsung A15 with a Samsung 1080p screen.
And when your local shop will finally have some Tegra 3 devices, nvidia will announce Tegra 4.
GuenChan said:
There is this brand new Samsung device... called Ipad 3.... Processor by Samsung and Screen by Samsung.
When they have finished producing this, Samsung will produce something similar for Android.
A Samsung A15 with a Samsung 1080p screen.
And when your local shop will finally have some Tegra 3 devices, nvidia will announce Tegra 4.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yep, basically..lol
one thing ill give Samsung credit for, they are the real contributors to apples success and its a shame. they basically produce the whole tablet and Ipad is such a success. yet they can't even replicate this into their own tablet with their brand name on it. yes they are making lots of money off of apple. Bit I think its holding Samsung back in the long run. they busy fueling the success of the enemy tablet and no real chance to focus on themselves. Samsung is big enough to where they don't need apple money. I'd say Samsung should cut them off completely. Then leave Apple to drown. Samsung has one of the best manufacturing processes. that's why Samsung was main maker of the new display. their factory was the only one equipped to make that display. Apple is getting all the credit for Samsung hard work manufacturing all of Apples main components. I believe Samsung will dig their own grave continuing to be apples slave. then you have apple trying to sue Samsung over patents and stopping the sales of tablets in other countries. When will Samsung wake up and Smell the coffee? look at how ungrateful apple has acted towards them.
I actually like Samsung. Alot of my posts seem against them but that's only because people try to compare them to my current tablet I own, Asus Transformer Prime. even before prime, I had my eyes on the Samsung tablet 7.7in. I loved the new specs and processor it would bring. it took too long to materialize so I moved on to the prime. I still plan on getting a Galaxy Note Phablet. would be perfect for me. That Asus Padfone that's 3-1 looks very tempting though. that's the most revolutionary idea yet. A phone, tablet, notebook all in one. love it
Samsung needs to cut Apple loose and focus on themselves. Apple is purposely trying to hold them back. without Samsung, apple wouldn't be able to mass produce their new high Res. display in large quantities. plus I didn't like at first how Samsung tried tl be like apple by not having any SD card slot. seems like now they catching on and one of their newer tabs. has an SD card slot now.
I can't wait for Tegra4 to be announced. its going to be Sick, spec wise. it will surpass anything out now and coming out, before its released. I have a dedicated tegra4 thread in here. it will be resurrected once newer info released on it. I know since December it was already sent out to all major manufacturers to test out. so it Right be here sooner than we think.
Many people don't understand how samsung works, samsung isn't one big company it's dozens, each doing a different thing, and each of these companies has to buy components from each other, and the way it rolls is that it would take too much out of samsung's profit margin if they used their own screens because they can't pay to have it produced, assembled, or pay for millions at a time like apple can but if samsung would combine all their companies on one products and make on really good tablet they may actually have a mythical "iPad killer"
cordell507 said:
Many people don't understand how samsung works, samsung isn't one big company it's dozens, each doing a different thing, and each of these companies has to buy components from each other, and the way it rolls is that it would take too much out of samsung's profit margin if they used their own screens because they can't pay to have it produced, assembled, or pay for millions at a time like apple can but if samsung would combine all their companies on one products and make on really good tablet they may actually have a mythical "iPad killer"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good point. ran out of thanks for the day.
I know we are still all enjoying our brand new EVO's but google just gave us something even more exciting to salivate over!
What's everyone's thoughts on it?
So far I can't say that it "blew me away" but for the price point you really can't get better hardware without having the manufacturer take a severe hit on profits...I'd hate to see Asus or google turn into the next sony.
We are getting a quad-core CPU and apparently an amazing GPU, what else can you really ask for? The resolution is pretty darn decent for the price as well.
If this was any other device i'd typically pass it up BUT this is a nexus device! I am freaking excited as a mofo for what the development community is going to look like. This is the first actual flagship android device imo since phones have always been crippled by carrier support. Every dev and their mamas are going to get this thng! I seriously can't wait to see what's in store. I mean every android device has their share of phenomenal devs, now imagine all of them in one place...
By far the greatest feature any device can have for me.
Can't wait!
what are all your thoughts on it? One more new android device before years end to purchase?
Price, Jellybean & what not =
Bezel =
Pretty much, I have to read & see the I/O event.
Sent from my EVO LTE
not a bad device, for the money. but definitely not "cutting edge" performace by any means. i am patiently waiting for an s4 tablet.... then i will drop some dime on another device.
cobraboy85 said:
not a bad device, for the money. but definitely not "cutting edge" performace by any means. i am patiently waiting for an s4 tablet.... then i will drop some dime on another device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah I hear you. I really think Google should have added a 10.1 inch device to its line up that is completely bleeding edge and higher on the price tag. That way they'd have tackled every aspect of mobile devices...but who knows, they still have more to announce so we'll see.
starplaya93 said:
yeah I hear you. I really think Google should have added a 10.1 inch device to its line up that is completely bleeding edge and higher on the price tag. That way they'd have tackled every aspect of mobile devices...but who knows, they still have more to announce so we'll see.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
agreed. but again, as you said... for the money, hell of a deal. and i am not slamming the tegra 3, it is a good chipset, as well as the GPU it comes with. but the s4 chip and GPU is unmatched in performance as of right now.
adreno 225 GPU is flat out a rendering powerhouse. and the chip architecture of the s4 is more efficient.
plus... i can only imagine under heavy use what kind of a power suck that tegra 3 will be with 4 logical processors rolling at once.
here is some interesting stuff i found, for further comparison.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/3
Nexus devices aren't meant to have mind blowing Hardware.
They're a basis for future devices. This particular nexus device has the alterior motive of disrupting Amazons tablet dominance.
Sent from my GT-I9300 ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha using Tapatalk 2
In light of Goggle's efforts to build Google Play as a unified content portal (and the fact that every full-sized Android tablet that tried to compete with the iPad has been a train wreck so far), it seems like they're taking direct aim at Amazon rather than at Apple.
I'm gonna get one to tide me over until Surface x86 comes out then my 5 year old will have an awesome Android tablet.
Keep calm and flash on...
here is some more....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
The gains are likely due in no small part to improvements in Krait's cache/memory controller. Krait can also issue multi-issue FP instructions, A9 class architectures can apparenty only dual-issue integer instructions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cobraboy85 said:
not a bad device, for the money. but definitely not "cutting edge" performace by any means. i am patiently waiting for an s4 tablet.... then i will drop some dime on another device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tegra 3 is going to multi-task better. Plus all the exclusive games come with Tegra.
The s4 is good for a phone. But tablet the tegra is better.
cobraboy85 said:
here is some more....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I completely agree with you. If I had a choice I'd choose the S4 over Tegra 3 on just about any devices...but once again, the biggest draw for me on this device is going to be the development community.
I feel pretty confident in saying that this device will have the biggest Android development community of any device thus far.
I broke my iPad about a month and a half ago and waited to see this tablet. It satisfies everything I'm looking for and I prefer the 7'' screen too. I already preordered the 16GB.
I won't be buying it. Even if it came with keylime pie. No micro sd and the bezel seems too big.... They could have made the screen bigger.
it says it has a "micro usb," my question is
a) do I need a usb OTG cable to plug in an external hdd?
b) can I use the external hdd while charging the tablet?
wow, it really stinks there's no microSD, I really figured that'd be a given.
What I'm wondering is why they decided to go with 7" rather than 10" or 10.1".
7" inches just feels too close to a phone for me.
mvmacd said:
it says it has a "micro usb," my question is
a) do I need a usb OTG cable to plug in an external hdd?
b) can I use the external hdd while charging the tablet?
wow, it really stinks there's no microSD, I really figured that'd be a given.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is… but they want your money. Want something with microSD support? Pay more for another device. Wouldn’t have been hard to implement, but hey let’s just rape the consumer because we can. Better not give them everything all in one otherwise they will not buy other products…. Perceived value. “you get what you pay for…” its BS. You get what they decide to give you at whatever price they decide is appropriate. Adding features costs nothing really to them…. Adding VALUE…….. for your money…. Does, however, cost them money as you are then inclined to not pay twice the amount for the same product with a few more cool features.
Welcome to marketing 101.
It’s the same concept Apple lives on… “hey let’s make an 8, 16, 32, and 64 GB version of the SAME DEVICE… why, you ask? Because then it will cause sheople to feel like the extra space is more valuable, and they will give more money to US rather than sandisk…. Who would otherwise conveniently provide them a way to increase storage space.”
Nope, you buy a more expensive device from us so we can have your money instead of them.
This kind of crap pisses me off. if you couldn’t tell. lollllll
anyone noticed tablet got phone version of android.Why is that
AlexStukov said:
anyone noticed tablet got phone version of android.Why is that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is no tablet specific android version anymore. Honeycomb was the only one.
Have you not noticed that the Nexus devices don't have sd cards... Why would this one be different. Also the less storage you have on board the more likely you are to use their cloud services and not pirate video.
Sent from my GT-I9300 ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha using Tapatalk 2
Very disappointed it doesn't have a SD card slot, but at that price I ordered one any way.
Does anyone know how Sony are doing with sales of the Ultra? I have not managed to find anything on the net regarding this?
I just wondered how popular such a large phablet is?
Ryland
I have no idea. It could be 20, 100000 or 1 million. Take your guess.
LordManhattan said:
I have no idea. It could be 20, 100000 or 1 million. Take your guess.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are at least 4 in NZ, that I know of - a country of 4 +million, extrapolate that to the world population - that means that there should be about 8000 sold
We'll never know because that will translate to how much tax they gonna pay lol...
Ryland Johnson said:
Does anyone know how Sony are doing with sales of the Ultra? I have not managed to find anything on the net regarding this?
I just wondered how popular such a large phablet is?
Ryland
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wanna know it too.
Going to say more than 200,000 units
Sent from my C6833 using xda app-developers app
Sony has released its numbers for Q3. They sold 10.7 million Xperia devices in Q3 which means they sold, and will sell around 40 million Xperia devices this year, which is a lot more than i thought myself. How many of those 40 millions are Ultras? I have no idea, but at least 1/40 should be Ultras, so 1 million (yes, i'm only speculating).
LordManhattan said:
Sony has released its numbers for Q3. They sold 10.7 million Xperia devices in Q3 which means they sold, and will sell around 40 million Xperia devices this year, which is a lot more than i thought myself. How many of those 40 millions are Ultras? I have no idea, but at least 1/40 should be Ultras, so 1 million (yes, i'm only speculating).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had no idea Sony mobile where selling in that sort of volumes. I have been keeping an eye on Samsung sales and knock all other mobiles way out of the ball park. Oddly enough when magazines mention and debate mobile sales only three main names even appear, Samsung, Apple and LG. HTC even Nokia have been trying hard to play catch up.
Blackberry, Nokia, Motorola and HTC have all been in dire straits this past few years.
Sony has also obviously pulled itself up by its shoes laces as they also saw a very large drop in sales. I am pleased to see Sony making headway again. If only Nokia had made Android phones. Now they never will.
Just imagine the size of the Samsung empire! Jeez its a behemoth of a company. Must be THE most successful electronics manufacturer of all times not to mention its heavy and light engineering divisions. Korea became what Japan once was as Japan became what the UK once was.
No prizes for guessing what the new leading countries are going to be.
Interesting.
Ryland
Yeah, and Sony sold its VAIO division today. It's a sad day, but I think this will make Sony even better and they'll hopefully think twice before they do anything or think about releasing mediocre products. Sony should only release well engineered and designed products from now on, so they can get back to being the company they once were, that Steve Jobs admired and loved.
(Yes, Jobs looked up to Sony back in the day)
Sent from my old Desire HD using Morse code
LordManhattan said:
Yeah, and Sony sold its VAIO division today. It's a sad day, but I think this will make Sony even better and they'll hopefully think twice before they do anything or think about releasing mediocre products. Sony should only release well engineered and designed products from now on, so they can get back to being the company they once were, that Steve Jobs admired and loved.
(Yes, Jobs looked up to Sony back in the day)
Sent from my old Desire HD using Morse code
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sansui, Sanyo, Toshiba, Aiwa, Nakamichi, Pioneer, Rotel, Technics, Akai, Sony, Nagaoka. Denon JVC, Hitachi, Stax, AT, Sharp, Kenwood, TEAC, Onkyo, Marantz ............Many of those names in Hi-fi where legendary. Some have now disappeared all together.
Nakamichi made some of the greatest tape decks ever produced while Pioneer of old made some outstanding amplifiers as did Sansui. Sony AV multi channel audio amps.... So many now owned by other companies or gone for ever. Sony was one of the high street brands one could take for granted as being top of the range. Must add very expensive BUT one used to get what one paid for.
Sony has been one of the only brands to have their own high street shops as do B&O and Apple.
I have also been reading some reports today about Sony and the billions in sales they make every year yet some sections of the company still manage not to make a profit while others only make a few million in profit. Some years ago Sony nearly went under all together.
Rather pleased to see Sony now back on the right track. Sony have always been a niche market and never sold in massive numbers with regard to Hi-fi, Mobiles and TV's etc. Perhaps they diversified to much by purchasing all those Hollywood film companies?
I waffle, Sorry,
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Sansui, Sanyo, Toshiba, Aiwa, Nakamichi, Pioneer, Rotel, Technics, Akai, Sony, Nagaoka. Denon JVC, Hitachi, Stax, AT, Sharp, Kenwood, TEAC, Onkyo, Marantz ............Many of those names in Hi-fi where legendary. Some have now disappeared all together.
Nakamichi made some of the greatest tape decks ever produced while Pioneer of old made some outstanding amplifiers as did Sansui. Sony AV multi channel audio amps.... So many now owned by other companies or gone for ever. Sony was one of the high street brands one could take for granted as being top of the range. Must add very expensive BUT one used to get what one paid for.
Sony has been one of the only brands to have their own high street shops as do B&O and Apple.
I have also been reading some reports today about Sony and the billions in sales they make every year yet some sections of the company still manage not to make a profit while others only make a few million in profit. Some years ago Sony nearly went under all together.
Rather pleased to see Sony now back on the right track. Sony have always been a niche market and never sold in massive numbers with regard to Hi-fi, Mobiles and TV's etc. Perhaps they diversified to much by purchasing all those Hollywood film companies?
I waffle, Sorry,
Ryland
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great post. I also just read that Sony is cutting loose its Ebook business. It's pretty obvious they're restructuring the company and are cutting loose everything that doesn't make them a profit. It makes perfect sense, and i support the decision. They should focus on a few things, and make them as good as possible, and not do everything half assed and hope for the best.
although their ereader is good.
Down here they have a good chunk of the TV market,although I suspect Samsung is making inroads into it
Not enough sold. The Z.Ultra is a ahead of its time. If the screen was bigger in the same form factor would be amazing.
Sent from my C6833 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Please continue...:good:
herogjan said:
Please continue...:good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You may well regret saying that:laugh:
Product identity and consumer understanding.
Grab a coffee, this could be a long post...........
Like most of us I spend a fair amount of time reading various reports, industry reviews and forum posts. There is an awful lot of confusion with regard to mobile devices.
When is a mobile phone a mobile phone and when is a tablet a tablet? Part of the sales problems with the in between range of devices is identity. Unofficially we have named them 'phablets'. This IS important. Far to many professional reviewers write about the size of over 5" screens as being to big and not mobile. I tend to agree with them. Hang on. I tend to agree with them when they review said device as a mobile phone. IF we could officially adopt an industry name and categorisation such as 'phablet' this would reduce customer confusion and also help with sales and customer satisfaction.
When the net book was introduced they initially came out with an 8" screen. Toshiba made them, started a whole new segment in the portable device section. Consumers then purchased them and moaned about the screen being too small! Next model came with a 9" then 10" then before we new it we where in the lap top range so customers reverted back to lap tops and the net book died.
Then came the ultra book with an Intel industry specification. That seems to have worked as the industry has kept to that specification thus there is zero identity crisis when one purchases an ultra book.
The Xperia Ultra et al are not true mobile phones. With this is mind such devices come under an awful lot of fire as reviewers compare such devices with, for example, the Apple 5S. rather absurd when one thinks about it BUT understandable because as yet the term 'phablet' is unofficial. it matters, identity matters to avoid wrong and negative comparison.
IF those who make 'phablets' call them 'phablets' and box them as 'phablets' the consumer can make a much more educated choice of purchase.
The Ultra and those of a similar size should be marketed as a new breed of device, their strengths should be highlighted and that way this constant comparison game wold stop. No one reviews a car with a motor bike! Tow different machines.
I would very much like to see an industry standard with regard to this situation and each device market under that criteria. So much criticism is aimed at the Ultra also Note and Mega etc as being too big as a mobile phone. They ARE! They are not too big if we call them what they are...vis,,,a phablet
A phablet is not a mobile phone nor a tablet so why should we not celebrate the difference and concentrate on our phablets strengths?
Words and correct identification matter. Sales and consumer opinion matter. To this end we could boost sales also have a greater customer level of satisfaction if we called out Ultra et al what it is and not what it is not. What is the problem with the large companies marketing their phablets as phablets?
Just another ramble.
Ryland
jah said:
Not enough sold. The Z.Ultra is a ahead of its time. If the screen was bigger in the same form factor would be amazing.
Sent from my C6833 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand your point completely. May I suggest the following? Maybe sales are affected due to consumer confusion vis, its much to large and rather preposterous to be sold under the guess of a 'mobile phone' YET absolutely spot of size for a superb 'phablet'?
Second point. Sony went thin on the Ultra. To reduce those top and bottom large bezels would mean making the Ultra fatter. if we think on this for a while it is logic as the electronic components have to go some where. If we take pastry we start with a think lump not wide.as we roll it out it becomes thinner and bigger, same amount of pastry in both scenarios though, not my best analogy!:silly:
Hey. Much better example. The MPV, its not a car nor a mini van and isn't sold as either it has its own unique identity
Visit the sites of Phone manufactures and they separate, for obvious reason, a phablet from a mobile phone. Why not introduce that third option the phablet? Correct and accurate branding will help greatly with sales as we human being do love to compartmentalise things be it people, behaviours or purchases, all to do with out comfort zones.
Place an Apple iPhone 5S along side an Ultra, mega or Note3 et al and call them 'mobile phones' and............its just speaks for itself.
Now remove that possibility and introduce a new product category with the correct sales identification and you have a wonderful option. More than a mobile phone and more portable than a tablet, its a phablet..........away ya go..........:good:
IF only life was that simple eh?
Ryland
blueether said:
There are at least 4 in NZ, that I know of - a country of 4 +million, extrapolate that to the world population - that means that there should be about 8000 sold
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL... love the logic!
60% of the time... it works everytime !!
---------- Post added at 06:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:53 AM ----------
LordManhattan said:
Great post. I also just read that Sony is cutting loose its Ebook business. It's pretty obvious they're restructuring the company and are cutting loose everything that doesn't make them a profit. It makes perfect sense, and i support the decision. They should focus on a few things, and make them as good as possible, and not do everything half assed and hope for the best.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sony have their own finance company in Japan. makes tens of millions profit. Their manufacturing dep. don't make nearly as much. However their view is to "Be the brand of choice in the hearts and minds of our customers by delivering the best customer experience."
They said they didn't believe other electronic consumer companies did that, so they decided to stay in the market.
Interesting... I have had an excellent experience with their products... but not after sales service...