Boot loop after being submerged into water - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

Hi all,
Unfortunately, I've dropped my phone into the water and it sat there for 20 minutes or so. After that, I have disassembled it and left it in a container full of rice for 2 days.
Now, every time I try to do one of these:
1)Turn it on
2) Charge
3) plug it to my laptop
It shows the pocophone logo, then the empty battery logo for less than a second and the loop starts it all over again.
Please, any ideas on what can I try to do mitigate the problem? Thanks.

renatomarcos said:
Hi all,
Unfortunately, I've dropped my phone into the water and it sat there for 20 minutes or so. After that, I have disassembled it and left it in a container full of rice for 2 days.
Now, every time I try to do one of these:
1)Turn it on
2) Charge
3) plug it to my laptop
It shows the pocophone logo, then the empty battery logo for less than a second and the loop starts it all over again.
Please, any ideas on what can I try to mitigate the problem? Thanks.
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You have locked bootloader?

jjgvv said:
You have locked bootloader?
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Unlocked

renatomarcos said:
Unlocked
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ummm can you get into fastboot?

volume down and power

Nope, holding volume down and power start the mentioned loop again

renatomarcos said:
Nope, holding volume down and power start the mentioned loop again
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yr emmc died then replace motherboard.
battery and screen and back and possibly camera (if new motherboard does not include it) can probably keep.

Rice is useless. More than likely it's junk now.
You need to disassemble it and get out all the water. Water plus power equals corrosion.
Any corrosion can cause immediate failures or delayed ones even months, years latter. Connector contacts and power buses/components are particularly susceptible as well as some surface mount devices.
>Pull battery immediately!!!<
Disassemble as much as you are able to and pull all ribbon cable and other connectors.
Use anhydrous isopropyl alcohol* liberally if fresh water or RO water than isopropyl for salt water**.
Make sure the (water) alcohol gets into all switches and ribbon connector contacts.
Junk it but then get the alcohol off it fast.
Use compressed air to blow out the isopropyl alcohol as much as possible. It will take a few minutes, be careful with the air pressure.
Place in a warm dry place with fan on it until all water is gone.
I salvaged my Buds case like this after it fell to the bottom of my coffee (yes it had lots of sugar in it) cup. Couldn't disconnect the battery so I just pull the top inside cover off, flooding with water first then isopropyl alcohol. Had no compressed air so I used a blower bulb then let it sit in the sun on the dashboard. Total time from dunk to sun bake was about 3 minutes.
_Time is of the essence_ especially if the battery is in it. You have minutes (maybe) not hours.
A year later (surprisingly) the case still charges and functions normally.
*Do not use isopropyl alcohol on older LCD displays as it will poison them; they are open on the sides.
It should be 99% isopropyl alcohol not 70%!
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol attracts moisture from the air so low humidity is best. ESD damage is possible but the water is a bigger threat.
It's also flammable but not extremely just don't get stupid about it.
**salt water has near a 100% mortality rate no matter what you do.
Coffee with sugar... there's a chance

I have changed the phone's battery and it is working fine now. Thank you @blackhawk and @jjgvv for the help.

renatomarcos said:
I have changed the phone's battery and it is working fine now. Thank you @blackhawk and @jjgvv for the help.
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I would at least take the cover off, unplug the battery and leave in a warm dry place with a fan on it for at least a few days.
If any water is still present it will likely fail.

Turns out, as soon as the new battery drained the problem were back, exactly the same as before, it seems the phone has lost its capacity of charging the battery. Everything was working fine while the battery was charged, screen, speakers, phone calls. I will take the phone to a professional next week, let's see if they can figure it out. If you guys have any suggestions on what could be done I would appreciate as well.

renatomarcos said:
Turns out, as soon as the new battery drained the problem were back, exactly the same as before, it seems the phone has lost its capacity of charging the battery. Everything was working fine while the battery was charged, screen, speakers, phone calls. I will take the phone to a professional next week, let's see if they can figure it out. If you guys have any suggestions on what could be done I would appreciate as well.
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Your USB port is dead. Replace your USB port.

Hi guys, let me just let register how was the closure for the case.
I have taken the phone to a technician, the phone was disassembled and had its parts washed with isopropyl alcohol. The procedure bring it back to life, it been more than a week so far it has been working fine.

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WATER ON MY XDA

I dropped my xda in water!!!!!....HELP!!!! . I've been drying it out for a week.....Made sure it's been switched off, Tried charging it yesterday, yellow charging light came on while charging, but light switches off immediately I remove it from the cradle......H-E-L-P
The yellow light always turn off when you remove it from the cradle, because it is not charging anymore.
Or do you mean, the XDA turn off once you remove it from the charger.
water on my XDA
The yellow light goes off immediately I remove it from the cradle. I charged it for about 2 hours and it still doesn't respond to the power button
Can you switch it on while plugged into the cradle ?
water on my XDA
Tried switching it on , it didn't work
Wait
Wait, happends the same to me and after 20-30 days i put the pda to charge, do a hard reset and voila.
To be logical...
Did you try to do a hard reset?
You can also remove the bat from the xda, move the red part back in its orignal position without bat, this will definitly hardreset the xda.
Then try again with bat.
The charging curcuit has nothing to do the IC's inside, so this is not an indication for something at all.
I've done a hard reset, tried opening it from the back to access the battery but it just doesn't open after unscrewing at the back.......I am scared of forcing it open
It may be too late for you, but this is what should be done when you drop any electronics in water.
First off, IMMEDIATELY remove all power sources and batteries. If it was dropped in anything but clean fresh water, rinse it with clean fresh water. Disassemble it completely right away. Clean everything with Freon TF electronics components cleaner, or if not available, clean it with common household alcohol. Use plenty; you want to remove all traces of water. If there are parts you couldn't disassemble which may contain water, make sure you get alcohol into and back out of those areas.
Completely dry the device. If there are any places where moisture could be trapped, wait a few days. Otherwise, an hour or so should be fine.
As far as disassembling the XDA, there are some instructions here on the site somewhere. After removing the four screws, you will need to unsnap the case, which has tabs that lock together. I've found it easiest to start prying near the charge connectors and work my way around. Be careful, but firm, and the tabs will unsnap. Do be careful not to press any buttons while taking it apart; that's a good way to break an internal switch (ask me how I know :? ).
Thanks carlos, will try the alcohol method, wish me luck
You may have corrosion now or may have damaged components due to electrical short circuits across the water. Check for white powdery stuff on electrical parts, legs, pads, etc.
Trivia: Water is NOT electrically conductive... The impurities in water do that. 100% pure water won't conduct electricity.
I had the same accident with my XDA. I went climbing, water leaked in my backpack on my xda. XDA didn't do anything anymore. I dissassembled the XDA, let it dry for some days ... and it worked again!
Wash nothing in FREON cleaning fluids/solutions.
I'm a refrigeration designer - I know what the consumer freon-based evaporative solvent is, however it is not recommended.
You must clean the affected device with 'Isopropyl' ('isopropyl alcohol').
Take the greatest of care however; electrical items, especially semi-sealed liquid screens and digitisers may cause unexpected consequences.
My advice; remove the rear cover. You will have to force it, it is quite strongly held on. Simply unscrew all the screws and pull the rear (camera bit) slowly but firmly away from front/screen. Then submerse the electrical boards (after disconnecting the internal ribbons).
The alcohol will evaporate within a minute, leaving you with practically factory-fresh boards. Now look for corrosion (green 'rust') on the boards.
DO NOT POWER ON THE UNIT WHILE DOING THIS. YOU MUST ONLY REMOVE THE BACK COVER 30MINS after removing the battery; therefore minimising the risk of accidental shortcircuit with the backup battery supplying current to the volatile memory.
I know what the consumer freon-based evaporative solvent is, however it is not recommended.
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This is why every electronics store sells Freon TF as the recommended electronics cleaner, right...? :roll:
I didn't say Freon as in R134a/R12/R22. I have no idea what relationship Freon TF has to those, never looked into it.
I use alcohol as a last resort because, in the US at least, it is about impossible to get pure alcohol. The best you can find is something like 80% alcohol, so there is always some water. Maybe it's not an important amount, I don't know.
I finall succeded in disassembling my xda yesterday, my battery seems to be permanently attached to the back cover. I also cleaned out the electrical board with some methylated spirit (alcohol) and left it open to dry out. There was no evidence of corrosion. What do you guys think I should do next before resetting and charge it up.
You've done what you can. Make sure it is completely dry (even all the hidden spaces), then reassemble and test.
Sorry for having a go Carlos, that wasn't my intention.
Kayode, your problem can be solved easily; let the boards dry with an aid of a hair dryer (half an hour at about 30cm away).
All liquids would have evaporated, and the solvent will have dissolved and washed away electrical conductors.
Piece together and good luck.
Thanks , will do that...wish me luck
..And the moral of the story is dont use your XDA while on the toilet :shock: ....
I used a hair dryer on my xda after opening it, also did a hard reset before charging it. While charging, the phone doesn't come on when I press the power button......The amber charging light turned to green after charging for 3 hours but went off immediately I lifted it from the cradle. .........Any ideas on these issues?

water damage

Hi -
I regretfully managed to drop my X10 in a toilet last night.... It's been a good 9 hours since at least and although initiallly it turned on when I started to charge it now it wont.
Now the red light if flashing when it is connected to the charger, and the screen is evidently a bit moist around the edges... EDIT: the phone just turned on so part of the issue was the battery being dead, but the screen slowly got darker and darker before switching off...
Is there any test for the phone company to see if it's water damaged?
Also, if I were to call them up and say there was an issue, I know they'd replace it with a straight exchange, so they wouldn't check it first.... Is it safe to do that?
Thanks
FIRST THINGS FIRST :
TURN OFF THE PHONE. NOW. Don't hang around, pull the battery out and DO NOT PUT IT IN.
Circuits are fine when in water, it's the corrosion and also when they have an electrical current put through them that the problem arises (when wet).
This WILL be tested when sent back if you call up and claim fault. The quickest way to visually test water damage is simple. Take off the back of your Xperia and at the top, exactly center (right above the camera) you'll see either a red and white chequered square OR a full red square (possibly part red/white but blotchy).
This SHOULD be chequered red and white but with water damage it makes it all red. Simple. No chance you can claim non damage now.
SECOND.
Put the phone in a bowl of rice(uncooked white rice). Now put the bowl of rice in a warm room or cupboard (preferably where your boiler is for your house?) or on top of a heater.
Leave it overnight and if it's on a heater DO NOT TURN THE HEATER OFF. Don't put the battery in the bowl, keep the battery separate and cooler but also make sure to avoid any water areas with it.
You could be lucky (I'll assume you will be but only time will tell) and this could fix it. It's worked on all my previous phones that I've water damaged (funnily enough I've only ever water damaged SEs) and also a few other circuit board based things I've used (one of them being a laptop!).
Please turn your phone off the SECOND you have read this post. Quickest way, battery pull.
Follow all the above steps and you should have a working xperia again.
Last note : if you dont have a heater to place a bowl of rice & xperia on top of, sit your phone in an empty room, turn a hair drier on and lay it next to it on medium heat setting on the lowest speed blowing against the phone. Should work too but make sure u can shut the door (annoying noise..)
yetep said:
FIRST THINGS FIRST :
TURN OFF THE PHONE. NOW. Don't hang around, pull the battery out and DO NOT PUT IT IN.
Circuits are fine when in water, it's the corrosion and also when they have an electrical current put through them that the problem arises (when wet).
This WILL be tested when sent back if you call up and claim fault. The quickest way to visually test water damage is simple. Take off the back of your Xperia and at the top, exactly center (right above the camera) you'll see either a red and white chequered square OR a full red square (possibly part red/white but blotchy).
This SHOULD be chequered red and white but with water damage it makes it all red. Simple. No chance you can claim non damage now.
SECOND.
Put the phone in a bowl of rice(uncooked white rice). Now put the bowl of rice in a warm room or cupboard (preferably where your boiler is for your house?) or on top of a heater.
Leave it overnight and if it's on a heater DO NOT TURN THE HEATER OFF. Don't put the battery in the bowl, keep the battery separate and cooler but also make sure to avoid any water areas with it.
You could be lucky (I'll assume you will be but only time will tell) and this could fix it. It's worked on all my previous phones that I've water damaged (funnily enough I've only ever water damaged SEs) and also a few other circuit board based things I've used (one of them being a laptop!).
Please turn your phone off the SECOND you have read this post. Quickest way, battery pull.
Follow all the above steps and you should have a working xperia again.
Last note : if you dont have a heater to place a bowl of rice & xperia on top of, sit your phone in an empty room, turn a hair drier on and lay it next to it on medium heat setting on the lowest speed blowing against the phone. Should work too but make sure u can shut the door (annoying noise..)
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thank you so much for your advice. I'll give it a go. I don't have any white rice, just brown, will that make a difference?
Of course I'll go and buy white rice if I need it!
The square at the phone is blotchy.... but mostly red. you can still see slight shades of white though.. is this possible without water damage?
Also from what you've said, I really shouldn't have put the phone to charge. I think I left it charging for ast least 6 hours so now I feel like I've ruined it by doing that..
Thanks again )
Just another update. after almost 5 hours in the rice I inserted the battery and connected it to the charger. There was an improvement from before in that the phone turned on and stayed on, ALTHOUGH th screen was flickering, and it really wasn't responding very well - I couldn't actually unlock the device.
There's a visible different in the water movement though, in that there seemed to be some spread around the whole screen initially, and now it's in a small part of the bottom of the screen.
Any tips?
Also, could someone clarify whether Vodafone would class it as water damaged?
Tuffy11 said:
Just another update. after almost 5 hours in the rice I inserted the battery and connected it to the charger. There was an improvement from before in that the phone turned on and stayed on, ALTHOUGH th screen was flickering, and it really wasn't responding very well - I couldn't actually unlock the device.
There's a visible different in the water movement though, in that there seemed to be some spread around the whole screen initially, and now it's in a small part of the bottom of the screen.
Any tips?
Also, could someone clarify whether Vodafone would class it as water damaged?
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well you dropped it in water and now its damaged, that seems like text book water damage to me =/
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Waiting 7 hours is not long enough...
Rice can only absorb moisture at a certain rate.
You should have wait much longer..
No offense, but your phone is toast. Rule number one is to NEVER turn on a water damaged device for at least a day after the incident. The phone was probably fine until you plugged it in.
You'll have to be on the hook for a new one. Your phone was water damaged and will not be covered under warranty.
Also, your grammar needs improvement. I found it really difficult to follow what you were writing because it made little sense.
Stop playing with it and leave it in the rice another day.
Then pray
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They'll be able to tell
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1. Diasassemble the Phone and put the PCB for 24hrs in 99% Isopropyle Alcohol. Not 50%, not 70% --> 99%.
2. Then take it out and let it dry for 48hrs.
3. Now reflash it (the SW is/may be corrupted).
I reanimated 80% of 200 Water-, Beer-, Pool-, Toilet-, and so on damaged Phones I repaired in the past...
Hey tuffy, sorry for the absence was at work till 10 last night then went straight to sleep lol.
I was going to give you similar advice to McKebapp however I thought the easiest option would be to give you common-to-find objects and make it easier as actually locating 99% Isopropyle is next to impossible unless you know exactly what it is!
Anyways, brown is fine - rice is rice it still takes in water. Only issue is it takes boiled water in at a rate almost 150 times faster than luke-warm or cold (which is what the water inside your phone will be).
If at all possible, do what McKebbap said but maybe avoid putting the PCB in alcohol, stick to the rice as it's bone dry and although, theoretically, so is the alcohol it'll be easier than trying to clean it all off afterwards.
If you can't dismantle it down (basically we need as much air-space between the PCB and well.. the air/rice!) then just put it back in fresh rice and leave it with the back off and battery out for another 24 hours or so, again in a warm area (needs to be warm for the water to rise).
Please, DO NOT TRY TO TURN IT ON WITHIN THIS TIME. Personally i'd actually be quite inclined to leave it for about 3 days but changing the rice (or mixing it) each day.
Good luck mate.
Oh and to answer your question : it's not possible for it to become blotchy or anything other than just squares of red/white without water buddy. it's designed for phone companies to , at a quick glance, check water damage cause guess what, besides dropping the phone, is the most common return reason ;-)
yetep said:
I was going to give you similar advice to McKebapp however I thought the easiest option would be to give you common-to-find objects and make it easier as actually locating 99% Isopropyle is next to impossible unless you know exactly what it is!
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Each Pharmacy should have it for sale.
They maybe ask for what you'll use it.
Simply tell them the truth (cleaning electronics) or say, you'll need it to clean guitar strings from colophony.
Then everything should be fine.
So what happened? How's the phone?
How about the beer test in the good ol' days of the R310s
D3sRtH4mmR said:
So what happened? How's the phone?
How about the beer test in the good ol' days of the R310s
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Even if it is Off Topic...
YMMD
I've still got one orange R310s I still regualry make use of.
You simply can't destroy it.
I once even went snorkeling with it.
*remembering-the-good-'ol,-Sony-free,-pure-Ericsson-times*
McKebapp said:
Even if it is Off Topic...
YMMD
I've still got one orange R310s I still regualry make use of.
You simply can't destroy it.
I once even went snorkeling with it.
*remembering-the-good-'ol,-Sony-free,-pure-Ericsson-times*
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Indeed, the awesome days of Ericsson phones! My R380s still works!
Back on topic, I hope Tuffy11 managed to salvage the X10.
U can get isopropyl from any pharmacy. You should follow mckebapps guide. Check his posts out, he knows whats up. ;-)
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D3sRtH4mmR said:
Indeed, the awesome days of Ericsson phones! My R380s still works!
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Mine r520m works fine except bluetooth. In 2006 Ericsson didn't support this model anymore, so I switched to k790a that works fine for now. Even now with 3.2 Mp camera it does better job in dark sets, than X10. When I read specs I was surprised that they didn't use xenon flash. It is a kind of a bad joke for flagship model.
Returning to water damage - it is enough just to leave a phone for a week in regular room environment. Of course, I mean average environment, not like in rain season somewhere in rainforest. Alcohol (any kind - regular ethanol or isopropyl) absorbs water, but dries faster, than water, so this bath just significantly reduces water concentration. By the way, don't try to find 99% of consumer ethanol - it doesn't exist. 96% is the best (190 proof in the US or 175 degrees proof in UK). For isopropyl regular distillation gives 87.9% max. Azeotropic distillation produces higher percentage for both these spirits, but I doubt you can find it in regular stores. Closed areas, where water was suck in remain problematic. Moreover, when water finally dries out, it leaves mineral salts. It is not a big deal at circuit plates since those salts are electric safe (except sea water salts), but in clear areas like between screen layers they will be visible.
And again - if you want to kill any electronics most effective way, turn it on when it is wet. If you want to save it - be patient.
Hopefully this will help some poor schmucks that manage to do the #3 in the toilet (common enough so I call it #3).
If there is ****, just let go man, really.
If there is piss, likely more damage has been done so chances of recovery are slimmer (salty water is more conductive).
If clean water then likely the phone will work but some hardware might not survive (like the camera, ....)
In any case, remove the battery IMMEDIATELY!
Wipe battery dry. Leave alone and forget about it for 3-4 days.
Shake out as much water as possible out of the phone and let it dry for a week. You can safely use a hair dryer to warm it up to speed the evaporation. Do it twice a day.
If you want, dunk the phone in 99% rubbing alcohol for 10-20 seconds, swish it around. Take it out and forget you had a phone for 3-4 of days.
I never dropped one into the loo but I did go swimming with two phones and both survived (mostly).

[Q] Dropped in water, how to fix?

It doesn't work, won't turn on, take out battery and plugged into charger it doesn't turn on.
I'm assuming I need a disassembly guide (looked for and couldn't find) and how to figure out what's broken and where to find parts. btw I live in Australia.
Any help is appreciated.
Thank you
There is a fix rule when electrical devices come in contact with water, you don't try to power them on and you don't try to charge them!!
The best you could do is to open the phone and let it dry out! leave it drying for days!
I suppose you could use a hair dryer...
If you are lucky it will work..if not you've probaly short circuited it...
btw, here's your guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyT618lVxUs
Hanzo.Hasashi said:
There is a fix rule when electrical devices come in contact with water, you don't try to power them on and you don't try to charge them!!
The best you could do is to open the phone and let it dry out! leave it drying for days!
I suppose you could use a hair dryer...
If you are lucky it will work..if not you've probaly short circuited it...
btw, here's your guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyT618lVxUs
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never ever use a hairdryer!
just put it it down somewhere turn i around every 30 min this way it will not cause any corrosion but yeah when you sleep you cant turn itaround so before you go to bed and then after but keep the water moving it is better!
it sounds not better but it is!
like the guy above me said dont turn it on don't try to charge it
and try it over around 4-7 days
and ofc cross your fingers and pray
let us know how it goes
Fill a cup with Isopropanol Alcohol, and drop the phone in.
Seal the lid.
Leave somewhere for a could hours, shaking around a little every so often to get the fluid into every nook and cranny.
Remove phone and shake out fluid. Leave sitting wrapped in a towel in a warm place (airing cupboard etc) but nowhere too hot.
That SHOULD get all the water out, however you probably already destoyed it by plugging it in.
Put in a jar filled with raw rice or a container containing semi-powdered quicklime it will ofc absorb water and let it dry for 4-5 days and try charging or turning it on...hope my reply ain't too late
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Strange but true, you should have DIRECTLY put it in raw rice.
That will absorb the water greatly.
Put ur phone out of water. Dont turn on ur phone. Put ur device in some place by about 1 day and dont touch it!... then try again.
Rice is the answer! It sucks all the water away in a week... although i would leave it 2, just to be 100% sure
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Sorry guys this happened like a week or two ago now. Took the battery out asap, left it for two days, hair dried it and then tried and it didn't work. I plugged it into the charger to see if it was just the battery that's ****ed, apparently just the battery is dead.
It was in a pool, so chlorine could have corroded some parts? Could I try to clean off the corrosion, replace parts etc. Or would it be cheaper to send to sony ericsson and get them to fix it?
Sony will just replace the whole phone and charge you a repair fee iirc.
Isopropanol may help with corrosion, but you need to strip the phone down to bare boards and parts, and soak it in the alcohol, then brush at with a SOFT toothbrush and gentle motions.
Isopropanol dries fast and leaves no residue, so it's ideal for loosening gunk and driving out water. I've used it with great success to salvage laptops filled with everything from cola to beer as well as waterlogged wristwatches.
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Sorry guys this happened like a week or two ago now. Took the battery out asap, left it for two days, hair dried it and then tried and it didn't work. I plugged it into the charger to see if it was just the battery that's ****ed, apparently just the battery is dead.
It was in a pool, so chlorine could have corroded some parts? Could I try to clean off the corrosion, replace parts etc. Or would it be cheaper to send to sony ericsson and get them to fix it?
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few days ago my mini pro also dripped into water i instantly removed battery
so may be damage not done to much but after that i removed water by wiping with cloth & than place it near hot air remover heater
after that i opened it thoroughly each & every part & u know water is in each & every part so i opened whole phone screen main board camera keyboard etc. & than i used hair dryer to remove water from every part of phone don't place all parts too much close to the phone or don't use hair drier for too long continuously but u can easily able to know that part is dried or not
after that in main board also u can dry it with hair dryer after u can convinced that there is no water particles remain in phone lets switch on it
after this all i done i start my phone successfully with all features working after 2 hours
& now just my keyboard lights are not working, they are working but only for 2 seconds so i have no prob with that however i give it to service center to short it out but yes this is the only solution u can get your phone working!!
if u want some help ask me
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Fill a cup with Isopropanol Alcohol, and drop the phone in.
Seal the lid.
Leave somewhere for a could hours, shaking around a little every so often to get the fluid into every nook and cranny.
Remove phone and shake out fluid. Leave sitting wrapped in a towel in a warm place (airing cupboard etc) but nowhere too hot.
That SHOULD get all the water out, however you probably already destoyed it by plugging it in.
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This is the best solution but since its been a while now it probably wont work, and also because your already tried charging it and turning it on. Personally i would send it to say and get then to fix, but it may even be cheaper to buy a new device as basic warrenty will not cover water damage.
Cheers,
evilbarcode.

[Q] water damage?

Good morning everyone. This morning was not a good morning for me, as I was feeding and watering my dog my phone slipped out of my jacket pocket and dropped into the dogs water bowl. It was in the water for less than a second, initially everything seemed fine there was barely any water behind the battery cover so I dried all that out and shook the phone to make sure there was no water in it's ports. Then shortly after that its USB port started going wonky(started acting like I was connecting USB cable and disconnecting it over and over), and my touch buttons at bottom of screen seem to stop working which makes doing anything damn near impossible. The USB plug seems to work as I've got it plugged up and its charging fine, but now my PC says USB unrecognized device. What I want to know is will these things work themselves out, is there something I can do to help them, or am I screwed?
Thanks for helping.
madhatter79 said:
Good morning everyone. This morning was not a good morning for me, as I was feeding and watering my dog my phone slipped out of my jacket pocket and dropped into the dogs water bowl. It was in the water for less than a second, initially everything seemed fine there was barely any water behind the battery cover so I dried all that out and shook the phone to make sure there was no water in it's ports. Then shortly after that its USB port started going wonky(started acting like I was connecting USB cable and disconnecting it over and over), and my touch buttons at bottom of screen seem to stop working which makes doing anything damn near impossible. The USB plug seems to work as I've got it plugged up and its charging fine, but now my PC says USB unrecognized device. What I want to know is will these things work themselves out, is there something I can do to help them, or am I screwed?
Thanks for helping.
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It is more then likely ruined. When ever a phone gets wet you should immediately remove the battery and put the phone In A large bag of rice for 3 days. No less then 72 hours and you have a very good shot at being OK. For phones that have been completely submerged and are water logged I would do 3 days of rice and then a quick dip In rubbing alcohol and then another day of rice. The alcohol prevents corrosion on the electrical solder connections. I hope you have insurance. You can try the rice now but since you supplied voltage to a wet circuit the damage is done. O and when I say a quick dip in alcohol I mean remove the screen and only dip the circuit board.
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Thanks for the reply, but I think I got lucky. My USB port has stopped acting up and I was actually able to see contents of my phone thru the pc. Also my buttons are working fine again maybe there was a slight bit of water crossing circuits and it finally dried up.
The best way to dry it up, if it ever happens again is to use uncooked rice. Put the phone (with the cover open and the everything pull out) in the container with the rice covering it. Depending on how wet it got, it might take a few days ( 2 - 4) for it to completely dried up.
Intub8 said:
It is more then likely ruined. When ever a phone gets wet you should immediately remove the battery and put the phone In A large bag of rice for 3 days. No less then 72 hours and you have a very good shot at being OK. For phones that have been completely submerged and are water logged I would do 3 days of rice and then a quick dip In rubbing alcohol and then another day of rice. The alcohol prevents corrosion on the electrical solder connections. I hope you have insurance. You can try the rice now but since you supplied voltage to a wet circuit the damage is done. O and when I say a quick dip in alcohol I mean remove the screen and only dip the circuit board.
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BeenAndroidized said:
The best way to dry it up, if it ever happens again is to use uncooked rice. Put the phone (with the cover open and the everything pull out) in the container with the rice covering it. Depending on how wet it got, it might take a few days ( 2 - 4) for it to completely dried up.
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Arent you also supposed to put it in the sun, so it heats up and evaporates the water from inside the phone and then the rice absorbs it... or is that old news and overkill?
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Arent you also supposed to put it in the sun, so it heats up and evaporates the water from inside the phone and then the rice absorbs it... or is that old news and overkill?
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The sun only dry the outside part of the device. There will be moisure inside device (sometime) that will stay for a while. In order to get rid of the moisure from the inside of the device (if it is excessive water got in) is to use the rice.
In this case it might be excessive and overkill (since the device still works). But then I have mentioned that if next time. Sorry that I didn't indicated that if the device won't come on after sun drying, then use this method...
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The sun only dry the outside part of the device. There will be moisure inside device (sometime) that will stay for a while. In order to get rid of the moisure from the inside of the device (if it is excessive water got in) is to use the rice.
In this case it might be excessive and overkill (since the device still works). But then I have mentioned that if next time. Sorry that I didn't indicated that if the device won't come on after sun drying, then use this method...
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I think you misunderstood him... he's not saying put the phone in the sun, he's saying put the bowl of rice with the phone in it in the sun. That supplies heat which facilitates the process of water evaporating. I wouldn't leave it in direct sunlight though, just in a warm place near a window maybe.
mine dropped in toilet
2 days in rice with small bag of desiccant inside of phone(take battery out)
desiccant will dry out faster
I'd use some Lysol after that one
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When mine fell in a cup of water, I put it in a bowl of rice, and then put the bowl over a scentsy warmer. The small light bulb in the warmer gently heated the bowl, without getting it too hot.
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I just had my phone "waterproofed" by a company last week, just in case. A friend of mine demonstrated the effectiveness on his iphone 4 and I instantly wanted to have it too as I use my phone as a GPS unit on my motorcycle. I live only a few minutes away and walked in to have it done. I can't attest to their shipping: http://www.liquipel.com/
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I think you misunderstood him... he's not saying put the phone in the sun, he's saying put the bowl of rice with the phone in it in the sun. That supplies heat which facilitates the process of water evaporating. I wouldn't leave it in direct sunlight though, just in a warm place near a window maybe.
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Oops. I missed read it for sure. Sorry. LOL
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A few phones ago I tried the rice rescue method, but after a couple of days the rice caked up around the device and was a bother to try to chip away. Later, someone pointed out that I should not have cooked the rice.
I dropped plenty of phones in different liquids.
Nokia in a cup.of crown
Lg I'm the tub
Samsung in the washing machine this one was my i777
Samsung in the toilet
HTC in the toilet
and the rice trick had always worked for these expect for my bb curve. My daughter was slubbing all over it. it's Been a few months and it's still not working
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[Q] Need Help!!! Droid Razr waterdamaged powers on but will not boot

Was pushed in the pool with phone in my pocket. Was under water for max 20 seconds. Phone screen flickered and powered down. Immediately removed cover, battery and dried. Was then left in uncooked rice overnight. Battery charges, however when I go to turn the phone on its stuck on the word DROID in white. I tried to hold volume + - and Power to restart and recover but nothing seems to work. I am not a Android expert or developer, but competent enough to follow direction.
Researched problem online, downloaded latest Verizon ICS ROM, Android-SDK, ADB and RDSLite5.6. However when I select AP Fastboot and connect phone to computer with ABD running, I am not seeing the device in RDSLite. Also device is not detected in ADB.
Any help would be really appreciated, I just got this phone a week ago as a replacement.
Try mattlgroff's RAZR utility to fast boot the stock .211 software. Less room for operator error than the adb method.
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asgasg said:
Was pushed in the pool with phone in my pocket. Was under water for max 20 seconds. Phone screen flickered and powered down. Immediately removed cover, battery and dried. Was then left in uncooked rice overnight. Battery charges, however when I go to turn the phone on its stuck on the word DROID in white. I tried to hold volume + - and Power to restart and recover but nothing seems to work. I am not a Android expert or developer, but competent enough to follow direction.
Researched problem online, downloaded latest Verizon ICS ROM, Android-SDK, ADB and RDSLite5.6. However when I select AP Fastboot and connect phone to computer with ABD running, I am not seeing the device in RDSLite. Also device is not detected in ADB.
Any help would be really appreciated, I just got this phone a week ago as a replacement.
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You can't totally dry it with rice. You can just take out moisture. When water dries it leaves traces that still make short circuit. I had my razr dropped in the sea and couldn't do nothing for day's until I came home. What you have to do is dismantle your phone and dip it in 98% alcohol, but first protect your microphones with some strong adhesive tape ( wrap them good), if you can acquire the one used for phone because its strong and it wont let alcohol through to damage them. For the best results use ultrasonic tank filled with 96 or 98% alcohol or other solution for electronics. I used 96% alcohol. Only damage I got on my phone is a broken ear speaker from sea water witch can be replaced. Everything else works.
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Darezi said:
You can't totally dry it with rice. You can just take out moisture. When water dries it leaves traces that still make short circuit. I had my razr dropped in the sea and couldn't do nothing for day's until I came home. What you have to do is dismantle your phone and dip it in 98% alcohol, but first protect your microphones with some strong adhesive tape ( wrap them good), if you can acquire the one used for phone because its strong and it wont let alcohol through to damage them. For the best results use ultrasonic tank filled with 96 or 98% alcohol or other solution for electronics. I used 96% alcohol. Only damage I got on my phone is a broken ear speaker from sea water witch can be replaced. Everything else works.
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This. Leave it in a non cold place for as long as you can. It should evaporate pretty quickly, but still would rather err on the side of safety. At least it sounds like it's not completely trashed.
You can leave it as long as you want to dry, but there will always be water residues that still conduct electricity, That is what you have to clean. The longer you use your phone like this the more damage will be made which some can't be repaired later on. Better be safe than sorry. Clean it like I wrote it and you will be ok.

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