So I've gotten my feet wet with all of the roms available for this device yet I see hardly anything new. I wish that I had the skills to develop a great rom. I wish there were some more developers working on this platform. I admit that the nord N10 5g has been my Frankenstein and my first project to mod and customize after the bull**** waiting game from the carrier etc.. Etc.. I want to try some new things. I realize this is t a high end device, but it's capable of so much more than. I've seen. If there's anyone that knows of anything other than what's been posted here please tell me.
Agreed. I literally posted similar thoughts the other day.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/a-great-opportunity-for-aosp-builds.4292393/
Some phones have beta versions of Android 12 and OnePlus still has users on Android 9 & 10. HUGE opportunity for Lineage or Pixel Exp — “If you build it, they will come.” Users want the features available in Android 11 and aren’t going to get them from OnePlus any time soon.
Yeah this particular device is the red headed bastard son of the lineup. I tried the GSI method after doing a complete restore to factory and it got boitlooped . That being said I'm not sure what to try now. I'd love to see some different os and themes, mods, etc. The snapdragon in it could handle A12 but nothing else I'm sure. OP could sell a ton more of these with a little more tech behind it.
I don't know why this phone isn't more popular. It's got 6G of memory, 128G of storage with expansion available, 5G and it's affordable. The only thing I can think of is that there are so many phones out now it gets lost in the mix. It definitely needs more support.
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I don't know why this phone isn't more popular. It's got 6G of memory, 128G of storage with expansion available, 5G and it's affordable. The only thing I can think of is that there are so many phones out now it gets lost in the mix. It definitely needs more support.
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It launched with an outdated android 10 when android 11 was already out and can only get one update to android 11.
All the phones launched with outdated android 10 when android 11 was released for months and only one promoised software update are not selling well. Look at moto's one ace 5g. It has good specs and really low price for the specs ($264 for 128gb rom/6gb ram version in the US) but doesn't sell well just like the nord n10.
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I have an HTC M9 that we have now changed to being the "home phone". My wife picked up the Oneplus 3 and I got the Axon 7. Well guess what, my older M9 just got an OTA and updated to nougat..
While my Axon 7 and her oneplus 3 has no release yet (except hers has a beta).. One of the reasons for my Axon 7 purchase was because I thought it would have faster release times but I was wrong apparently. Anyone else feel this way?
I've been very pleased of the hardware of the phone, but the lack of software support is on the verge of me never getting another zte phone again. Wi-Fi calling, which was promised before the phone was released (which was the main reason I convinced my wife we needed new phones) still hasn't come. This is a huge issue to me, and zte has not commented on it for a while now. Very disappointing. They've definitely been dragging their feet on a lot of stuff.
Before we got these phones, we had the moto x pure edition. Great phone in terms of software, and hardware was pretty good for the time. All it was lacking for me to love it was wifi calling. Software updates were a lot slower than I had imagined they would be as well, but overall pretty good.
Yep. The software side of it stinks and is the only thing that lets this phone down. They really need to invest in giving a much better user experience. The phone rocks but the user experience sucks. They should try and stick to android and expand on features instead of trying copy ifeatures like a lot of phone manufacturers are trying to do.
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Hate to beat a dead horse, but I am going to anyway. Daydream was a big selling point for me. Still waiting for that. Also, future official cyanogenmod support for those who choose to go that route. I'm really rethinking my decision. If ZTE doesn't do an about face soon on pushing out updates and fulfilling the features they advertised, I won't be buying another ZTE in the future.
I don't know any informed buying would expect ZTE release Nougat update sooner than OnePlus, for obvious reasons. Also the title of the thread implies there's a date for Axon 7's Nougat release... which is not the case.
So yeah, I'm thoroughly disappointed.
I'll leave this here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/news-nougat-preview-release-registration-t3515489
Hello,
I am considering buying the Huawei 5X.
The company I work for is very strict on only allowing phones with current security patches to access corporate info. I can't seem to find definitive info on what the latest patch available for the 5X is. Can someone let me know what it is, and where I could find the information later? Does anyone know how long Huawei intend to release security patches for the 5X?
Also, how do people like the phone long term? I have had my last 3 phones (Samsung GalaxyIII, LG G4, LG Nexus5) die prematurely! (Samsung = dead SIM, G4 = dead wifi, Nexus = bootloop). All were run completely stock under minimal use. At this point, I am just looking for an Android phone that doesn't die. Are there any 5X build quality issues people have noticed after long term use?
Thanks!
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Hello,
I am considering buying the Huawei 5X.
The company I work for is very strict on only allowing phones with current security patches to access corporate info. I can't seem to find definitive info on what the latest patch available for the 5X is. Can someone let me know what it is, and where I could find the information later? Does anyone know how long Huawei intend to release security patches for the 5X?
Also, how do people like the phone long term? I have had my last 3 phones (Samsung GalaxyIII, LG G4, LG Nexus5) die prematurely! (Samsung = dead SIM, G4 = dead wifi, Nexus = bootloop). All were run completely stock under minimal use. At this point, I am just looking for an Android phone that doesn't die. Are there any 5X build quality issues people have noticed after long term use?
Thanks!
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Honor has shown they release updates less and less. When they release a new model they all but abandon the old one. This phone is all but forgotten by them. They expect you to move on to the 6x if you want updates
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rickjames8 said:
Hello,
I am considering buying the Huawei 5X.
The company I work for is very strict on only allowing phones with current security patches to access corporate info. I can't seem to find definitive info on what the latest patch available for the 5X is. Can someone let me know what it is, and where I could find the information later? Does anyone know how long Huawei intend to release security patches for the 5X?
Also, how do people like the phone long term? I have had my last 3 phones (Samsung GalaxyIII, LG G4, LG Nexus5) die prematurely! (Samsung = dead SIM, G4 = dead wifi, Nexus = bootloop). All were run completely stock under minimal use. At this point, I am just looking for an Android phone that doesn't die. Are there any 5X build quality issues people have noticed after long term use?
Thanks!
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i would suggest to go for RN4..
So, on the Xiaomi, it seems like they don't patch/update as regularly as some other companies:
https://www.quora.com/Do-Xiaomi-mob...roid-versions-as-soon-as-updates-are-released
I do like the phone though.
I had been drawn to the Huawei as I saw it on a list of companies that are pretty good with patches. Basically, the ONLY reason that I am in the market for a new phone (currently using an old Samsung Alpha which is the best phone I've ever owned) is that I need it to access corporate data. If a patch is released and my company requires it and I don't have it, then I'm blocked from the corporate server. I like the Nexus line for this reason (quickest updates), but the 5 and 5x have this bootloop issue, and the 6 is just too big for my liking.
Thanks for the tip on the Honor 6X. I am leaning that way now.
Huawei/Honor is pushing updates on 3-4 months basis, and you'll probably still be stuck with old patchset. Mine was updated with September patches in November
If your company doesn't mind you running unrooted custom software (like mine does, they don't care what are you running as long as your phone is updated and you don't use warez), grab 5X and move it to LineageOS as soon as possible. 6X will get same treatment 5X is getting now, so if you must keep it stock & updated, better look at other manufacturers with better update history.
It's a pretty solid phone they just released a OTA for the January security patch 351 but you can root and use Lineage OS it's pretty solid. Also they tend to keep the security updates pretty recent and quicker.
As for the phone make sure you get a good solid case don't sit on it or keep in your hip pocket if you squat a lot mine tends to flex some on the housing and the volume rocker area gets bent alil bit. It's no biggy cause you can smush it back flush. Easy to take apart if you ever need to tear it down and you can always grab a extra housing off ebay for 20 bucks or so.
It didn't quite impress me last year since I was coming off a kind of roll where Huawei's Mate2 offered a whole lot of what I as a handset user expected such as OTG, Large screen, snappy response, etc plus for me the Honor 5x WAS Laggy and other occasional issues not experienced with my Mate 2 IMO.
However after returning back to Stock ROM (Factory New Again) recently and reapplying the latest release Marshmallow 6.01 and then pressing ahead with this newest update I am happy to announce that i'm back and pleased to peaches with Honor 5X FINALLY!
I knew this handset had some potential but whatever they did with updates it's for sure now pretty well ironed out as far as I can tell.
Like the above ---> IT IS A SOLID PHONE chalked full of options and very permissions configurable too if you like that about mobiles.
Don't buy the Honor 5X. The Galaxy S5 is way better and about the same price or less. Trust me.... These phones are garbage except for a few areas: Look, style, feel, battery, and camera. But the S5 still beats it in the Camera area. The battery life is fantastic. That's about it though.
The cons?
The speakers is the worst of any phone I've ever owned.
The performance is horrid no matter what ROM you run. <--- main reason I hate it
EMUI is the gayest thing ever.
Basically a very cheap iphone knock-off.
i think the phones sold in america are with 3gb ram
No they with 2gb ram
hey everyone so i'm clearly enjoying me Redmi 5 but when compared to the other redmi phones or even xiaomi phones overall, it's getting very little attention, like only a few roms and all are nougat roms while others like even the redmi 4 already got an android P rom even though our device is newer and actually better in overall performance, so i think we really should make the forum more lively if we want more interest and roms to come this way
What ideas could you guys have to make our phone a bit more popular? comment below please
Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
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well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
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I think a lot of people who interested in purchasing this phone end up buying the redmi 5 plus model as the price increase is quite low by comparison based on my country market. Anyways, I do agree with having a 3gb ram and a 18x9 display with the range of price given by the market is quite good. TLDR, I think the Redmi 5 Plus does overshadow the redmi 5 model,thus causing low number of custom roms development.
Slightly offtopic. In my country there is a bigger price difference between the Redmi 5 and 5 plus in most mainstream online stores, and I've been able to get my mother a Redmi 5 2/16 gb for literally 107 dollars converted and adjusted for vat! Dirt cheap. In comparison my oneplus 3 costed 500 dollars 2 years ago.
I am able to run Blokada no-root adblocker on the Redmi 5 if I turn off battery optimizations and turn on "keep alive". That's all we need from a cheaper phone isn't it? MIUI gets kinda regular updates and recent security patches, and is an overall solid and lightweight ROM. Not a lot of bloat unlike other cheaper phones.
I'm not even expecting much custom rom's when Xiaomi provides such good support for their phones
The new Rom packaging has screwed a lot of developers. The Market range is far to High to obtain any User investigating for Development.
This device has a neat Stock Experience. The optimisations decreased highly with any Update of the Android version. The Graveyard of Technology is high, with all the cluttering, Invention of Removal of Bloatware, Security Improvements and alternatives of existing Modifications, Hardware that went in and out it was like launching a Rocket. Much will be missed..
In common, Developers go there where is the most of Sources provided. Mainly Google. Hardware manufacturers who change poorly their Hardware providers are favourites, like Samsung.
The Application security is Poor. So, here in the End developers meet Apple as their Dead End.
Hi, I've had Moto phones like the Razr-i, G4 Play, and G7 Play but am growing unhappy with their limited security updates. I worry more about being up to date with security patches as there is always more news about exploits. I'm not familiar with OnePlus. Are they consistent about security updates? I see a claim of more years of support, but wonder how it works in practice for the budget models. In my experience, Moto has been pretty lackluster in pushing updates even before the 2 year window expires.
Has anybody here also used budget Moto phones and already switched to the N200 5G? How much difference would I find using this phone?
As my username says, I am a light user of Android. I mostly use it to glance at the Google Calendar, Slack notifications, and calls and SMS. I use desktop and laptop computers for most of my regular email, web browsing, etc. But, I've noticed that it is hard to read web pages on a 720 pixel wide screen because it is fuzzy if you scale so that the whole page fits. I also see it stutter, and assume this is because my current phone only has 2GB RAM.
I disable the Google assistant and actually want a phone to be more like an idle pocket computer, not a busy bee trying to be clever and annoying me with suggestions, integrations, etc. I have been able to configure the Moto launcher to be boring like that. Can that be done with the N200 or would I need to install Nova launcher or something?
I use Mint, a T-Mobile MVNO and care about stability for calls with both VoLTE and WiFi Calling. I don't really care about 5G speeds vs LTE but would hope it makes the cell connectivity more stable rather than less?
Thanks for any feedback or real world review!
You'd rather get a pixel 4a for that kind of usage and concerns about security patches, not a oneplus.
Huh... you don't think the N200 will get regular updates? Or are you saying OnePllus doesn't provide good security even if it is up to date? Do you think OnePlus is less secure than Moto or the same?
I feel like the pixels are in a different price bracket.
I'm just gonna point out that OnePlus is a Chinese company, and uses an Android OS variant made in China.
Chinese companies are not exactly known for keeping other countries (or their own) personal data secure (quite the opposite).
Take that how you will.
Hmm, do people think OnePlus is any less secure than Moto? Moto is also a Chinese company (part of Lenovo).
I find this hard to sort out.... those factories have to be trusted to put together the hardware and image the firmware. Even the pixel phones are made there, aren't they? If you go down this path questioning it, why assume that any software update afterwards can secure it, if the origin is murky? :-/
Edit: I've wondered the same thing about used phones and how permanently someone can tamper with it. That's one reason I am buying new budget phones and wondering about the N200 versus the Motos!
I don't mean to take this away to off-topic land. Can anybody report what security patch level they have received with a retail (unlocked) US N200 5G?
And if anybody is using one with T-Mobile or Mint, do you find it to be getting stable network connectivity and calls?
yes, stables calls and connectivity in Los Angeles area with Tmobile. As of the time of this writing its on July Security Patch. If you are worried aobut exploits and want the latest patches it best to just go with a official google supported phone the like Pixel series or a Iphone as they keep up to date with security patches on their latest devices.
In my experiance if you just want it for calls and text and the like you should be ok. I just came off a pixel 3a for this phone and before that I did the samsung s thing and before that the motorola cliq series. Am I totally thrilled with the phone? No, it's a budget phone that runs better than any other budget phone I have seen, however, it is still a budget phone My hope is that as soon as we can get root that the phone will rock due to it actually having decent hardware. So it's more of an expectation thing. Sounds like it will be fine for your use case, Good readability screen and enough horsepower for what your doing.
Hey lightuser, which company are you conducting this "questionnaire" for?
If I may?
Motorola?
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Huh... you don't think the N200 will get regular updates? Or are you saying OnePllus doesn't provide good security even if it is up to date? Do you think OnePlus is less secure than Moto or the same?
I feel like the pixels are in a different price bracket.
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Im saying you want cheap and android and stable security patches? Go with the mother of it all, pixel (not the high-end ones of course).
I got the n200 because of "free" from tmo, it's not what im used to thought. This phone is weak and slow and 5G/wifi speeds suck.
If those basic functions are sooo weak and you oneplus officially said: 1 major upgrade of the OS, you just know this little weak guy doesn't have a long life in the security updates either
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I don't mean to take this away to off-topic land. Can anybody report what security patch level they have received with a retail (unlocked) US N200 5G?
And if anybody is using one with T-Mobile or Mint, do you find it to be getting stable network connectivity and calls?
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I've got the unlocked variant from the OnePlus store. I got an update on August 4th with the July 2021 security patch, so that's what I have now. Before that, I had the 2021-04-01 update.
I'm going to join in and *not* recommend OnePlus for light android users. They don't have a great long-term update policy - see articles like https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/...e-commitment-is-uninspiring-yet-unsurprising/. They also anecdotally don't have a great support team, and don't deal with factory-broken hardware well (for example, the microphone issues with the OnePlus One which left many users without a very inconsistent microphone when making calls on phone speakers or speakerphone).
The reason the community likes OnePlus is not their updates, though. It's the custom ROM community: every OnePlus phone has its ROM released, and has an unlockable bootloader.
What this means is *if you're willing to install a custom ROM*, you're almost guaranteed the community - XDA forums and the like - will provide updates above and beyond the product's lifetime. With this, for example, the OnePlus One, released in 2014, still has new community-based updates today! See threads like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...1-july-10th-lineageos-17-1-june-11th.3693223/.
This also means you get a guaranteed ability to root the phone, and thus can change and optimize the OS for your usage.
To be clear, if you're willing to use comumunity-produced ROMs, and understand the benefits and drawbocks of that, OnePlus phones are great. Lots of people will be drawn to them, similar to google phones, and you'll get software for into the future at the cost of having to rely on builds provided by strangers on the internet.
If you aren't, or have never installed a custom ROM and would rather not, don't get OnePlus. The three things they've had going for the are: custom ROMs, hardware that's specced above what you'd expect at the price point, and marketing. Software is not their strong suite.
I really like the Nord N200's hardware design, it's great bang-for-buck, and it seems quite sturdy. But people have *already* reported microphone issues when using cases which with OnePlus's track record will probably never be fixed unless you apply the fix yourself as part of a custom ROM, and you won't be happy 2 or 3 years down the road when your options are to run an outdated OS or rely on strangers online to provide custom OS builds with no guaranteed support or bugfixes, and which automatically void your warranty when installed.
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Im saying you want cheap and android and stable security patches? Go with the mother of it all, pixel (not the high-end ones of course).
I got the n200 because of "free" from tmo, it's not what im used to thought. This phone is weak and slow and 5G/wifi speeds suck.
If those basic functions are sooo weak and you oneplus officially said: 1 major upgrade of the OS, you just know this little weak guy doesn't have a long life in the security updates either
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the ATLEAST "one major update" will probably be a jump to the next major android version, however the " regular maintenance updates" will be the regular security patches that they most likely roll out in a timely fashion as they are known to do usually. It sounds like it will be s supported just like any other oneplus phone in my opinion. The hardware is decent for the price and considering its free from tmobile (cant beat that), its actually runs everything fine including all the games ive played just fine (Call of Duty , CLASH OF CLANS), the only super major weak disaappointment is the camera, considering Xiaomi can make sub $250 budget phones with a impressive budget camera, it puts the N200 camera to shame. I dont know your 5G test environment but in Los Angeles where i am, if i lock onto the same 5G bands as my friends Iphone 12,, i actually get better 5G speeds than my friend who has a Iphone 12 Max. WiFi speeds seem normal to me, but then again i am only 10-15 feet away from the router most of the times.
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Hey lightuser, which company are you conducting this "questionnaire" for?
If I may?
Motorola?
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Sorry, I'm just a user looking at my G7 Play which says "your software is up to date" and a February patch level, and finding only disappointment when I look at the available replacements and consider how soon I'll see this again...
Thanks all! I guess I am hearing the message that I need to either adjust my belief about what "budget" means (to consider Pixels etc) or accept that security is not included at the budget level...
Hi there! Just a quick question about what phone I should get next. I've been with OnePlus for a long time, first using a OnePlus 5T then a OnePlus 7T and now a OnePlus Nord. While I think the brand has slowly moved away from what I originally chose it for, cheaper price point for flagship specs, I am still happy with the phones and would get another one. I just smashed my OnePlus Nord and since I've already had it repaired before and I've had it since it launched, I was looking at getting a new phone. I really really liked the One Plus Nord, possibly my favorite of the bunch, so I was thinking of getting the OnePlus Nord 2. I wanted to ask first, what are people's opinions and user experience with the Nord 2, is it worth it?
Honestly, best consumerism practice states to never have "brand loyalty" and instead consider all options and pricepoints available to you. Do your research thoroughly, and don't let brands sway your decision too much.
If you are a fan of rooting and modifying your device on the software side the experience isn't great on the nord2 due to it's less common mediatek chipset, complete lack of official stock rom from oneplus, and the ensuing lack of custom roms and mods that this entails. Also the lack of AB partitions meaning OTA updates are inconvenient on this phone if running stock OS rooted.
And even if you're not into aftermarket software or rooting, the quality of the stock OxygenOS is declining. Judging from your previous phones, you should be aware that OxygenOS used to be very highly regarded within the community, but that is becoming less and less the reality in the past year or two, which the community is blaming mostly on the Oppo merger and ColorOS influences, with their latest OxygenOS 12 rollout being fraught with bugs and almost unuseable at times, without an option to rollback without very advanced knowledge / image files from other xda forum users.
As for performance, battery life, camera performance and the other hardware side consideration, you can look up plenty of data about this from youtube and various reviews around the internetl They're pretty decent but definitely not flagship standards by any means.
So in summary;
Aftermarket software/tweaks/rooting score = F (worst grade possible)
Stock software/Oxygen OS = D (pretty bad, getting worse by the month)
Hardware = B+ (pretty decent)
So basically, worthwhile if you don't plan to root/modify the phone and just want an ordinary phone for daily use, you're getting decent hardware as long as you can pick up the phone for a reasonable price and don't plan to use wireless chargers with it. Do note the phone is around 1 year old now so don't pay premium price for it anymore, phones of this kind of spec and age are only worth considering for a good price point, otherwise the midship phone market is totally saturated with good choices. The Google pixel 6a coming out in a few weeks time is a good example.
Could not agree more with @Zombnombs. I am using the phone for almost a year now and tweaking and rooting this phone is a nightmare. at the moment iam on a broken OS / firmware, so i cannot update the phone anymore (As OTA update refuses to work). Very dissappointed in that regard as i was used to easily tweak OP phones in the past. Oneplus is not the same company anymore as it was in 2014 :/
This phone is good for the average Joe. does everything you want a smartphone to do, and is pretty fast, takes decent pictures, but i think there are better options out there now.
Is there a decent Android phone in less than $600 / 600€ ?
Nord 2 5G is one of them. Once figured how to root without bootloop ( no TWRP) do great the job.
I am not happy with some stupid OnePlus decisions but in general the phone performs well.
Don't find oxygen so bad. My other driver is lineage os and feel the same comfortability.
Yeah, OTA update on rooted is pain and mtk is not my favorite SoC, but the overall experience is great.
Almost a year on customized & rooted.
If someone suggest better phone in this price segment will consider the change.
Particularly I cannot find one.
Best.
Edit:
After few days of research and looking on OPPO, Realme, OnePlus, Motorola, Samsung, (Xiaomi - no), didn't liked one more than mine DN2103. Will keep it, hopefully with oxygen 11.3.