This week I'm getting blackballed into finally upgrading from my old fleet of M9's.
Anyway, my wife smoked her M9 (GPU/display driver failure, she was running Linage 17). I had a spare M9 (I have three total, hers, mine, and the spare, all Att model M9's), moved over the SIM, get a message from Cricket that I need to re-register the SIM. Ok, go to the store yesterday, they tell me it can't be activated (and my phone is soon to die) because "it's a 3G phone". I assume they meant no VoLTE... which as far as I know both of ours has supported.
Perhaps it's a stock ROM issue that has the M9 blacklisted... anybody else get this line from Cricket or ATT? Or do I need to talk to somebody not local who knows what they're looking at. While I'd love to upgrade to 5G (and given how rough it's been, likely on a different carrier), the only phones in budget I can't get good cases for, and my line of work is rough on phones...
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This week I'm getting blackballed into finally upgrading from my old fleet of M9's.
Anyway, my wife smoked her M9 (GPU/display driver failure, she was running Linage 17). I had a spare M9 (I have three total, hers, mine, and the spare, all Att model M9's), moved over the SIM, get a message from Cricket that I need to re-register the SIM. Ok, go to the store yesterday, they tell me it can't be activated (and my phone is soon to die) because "it's a 3G phone". I assume they meant no VoLTE... which as far as I know both of ours has supported.
Perhaps it's a stock ROM issue that has the M9 blacklisted... anybody else get this line from Cricket or ATT? Or do I need to talk to somebody not local who knows what they're looking at. While I'd love to upgrade to 5G (and given how rough it's been, likely on a different carrier), the only phones in budget I can't get good cases for, and my line of work is rough on phones...
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Did you find a solution to this?
ratdude747 said:
This week I'm getting blackballed into finally upgrading from my old fleet of M9's.
Anyway, my wife smoked her M9 (GPU/display driver failure, she was running Linage 17). I had a spare M9 (I have three total, hers, mine, and the spare, all Att model M9's), moved over the SIM, get a message from Cricket that I need to re-register the SIM. Ok, go to the store yesterday, they tell me it can't be activated (and my phone is soon to die) because "it's a 3G phone". I assume they meant no VoLTE... which as far as I know both of ours has supported.
Perhaps it's a stock ROM issue that has the M9 blacklisted... anybody else get this line from Cricket or ATT? Or do I need to talk to somebody not local who knows what they're looking at. While I'd love to upgrade to 5G (and given how rough it's been, likely on a different carrier), the only phones in budget I can't get good cases for, and my line of work is rough on phones...
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I have an AT&T branded M9 with Android 7 firmware update 4.27.502.7 on it and everything works fine on H2O wireless which is on AT&T. I did have to get them to provision the line for VoLTE first
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No, I moved to T-Mobile (and a pair of OnePlus Nord N10's) and called it a day. Good riddance to Cricket/Att!
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Hi together, i just noticed that the "non-verizon branded" Version of our ADR6410 seems to be available in the wild (-> on ebay.com) ... that seems to still have the identical specs as the verizon version and NOT the down-spec'ed like that "desire vc".
appologies for just snapping the pics from an ebay-offer, but it's just to show it to you for reference! HTC logo instead of our "verizon-mark". no idea about roms or unlocks for that modified ADR6410-LRA (from my side) of course. :fingers-crossed:
according to the seller:
As you see - the unit is a "6410LRA". The "LRA" stands for "LTE Across Rural America." This was ORIGINALLY a Verizon product but it was passed on to smaller regional carriers. This unit WILL NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT work on the Verizon (or Sprint) Network - NOT! You WILL need a SIM Card from one of the Regional networks to use this phone (SIM Card NOT Included) and even then we make NO guarantees of this phone being able to work on any Carrier. There are some carriers this MIGHT work on but we don't know which ones. When a Unit is Powered Up NO Carrier logo comes on the screen.
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cheers ... so what do you think about this "sibbling"?
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Hi together, i just noticed that the "non-verizon branded" Version of our ADR6410 seems to be available in the wild (-> on ebay.com) ... that seems to still have the identical specs as the verizon version and NOT the down-spec'ed like that "desire vc".
appologies for just snapping the pics from an ebay-offer, but it's just to show it to you for reference! HTC logo instead of our "verizon-mark". no idea about roms or unlocks for that modified ADR6410-LRA (from my side) of course. :fingers-crossed:
according to the seller:
cheers ... so what do you think about this "sibbling"?
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I have looked at it too, its identical and should work with all our roms since its the same device and uses same kernel
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I have looked at it too, its identical and should work with all our roms since its the same device and uses same kernel
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i'm just not sure if the unluck (root etc) would work the same way. alas, not much to worry about it for myself ... since i already have my Dinc4G and here in Europe you can't buy them (regularily anyhow). was just wondering ^^
very disappointed with this phone
HTC has been disappointing me HARD as of late..
Not sure if switching back over was the right move, Samsung was great, except when they locked the s4 bootloader and there is $5,000 bounty not being claimed yet, so i doubt itll come, id rather dump this if no S-OFF and get the s4 dev edition..
I have one of these, and purchased it at an independent cell company here in east KY. So far it seems to be a good phone. Signal is good, and has all the specs I need for my use. Battery life is excellent I've been one of AT&T's faithful since the Cingular days back in the early 90's. However, just to be blunt, AT&T coverage has dropped by at least 50% over the past 5 years - hence my reason to take a stab at App Wireless App Wireless is locally owned, and actually is the oldest provider in this area. The only issue is they are somewhat higher in rates, and initial cost is higher. With that being said......
I'd love to make the switch. I still have a few months under contract with AT&T, but would be willing to pay the ETF fee. Even though App Wireless is higher in pricing, the coverage more than makes up for it. I'd much rather pay $70 for 95% coverage as to pay $50 for 50% coverage
I really need to get this thing rooted Basically just to install programs on an ext4. It surprised me as to the programs that will install to the external SD card automatically, but there are just those few that won't. Searching the forums I can't find a definitive answer on this phone. I have found where its been done on the Verizon branded, and the HTC Desire VC, plus... even the HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
I've searched this and other forums - is there ANYWHERE posted that this phone has successfully been rooted?
Just wanted to let everyone know that I decided to be a "rabbit", and take a chance on my new HTC Desire 4G LTE - at least that's what the independent carrier calls it. It is similar to the HTC Desire VC they offer, but the specs are closer to the HTC Droid Incredible 4g LTE.
Anyway, whenever I plugged it into a program of sorts, it recognized it as the HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE. The big difference being the Hinc is a model from Verizon, ADR6410VZW. Mine is a ADR6410LTA.
All of the other specs are identical with the exception of the CID. The Verizon is a VZW__001 that mosts posts say to SuperCID it to 11111111 to root, but the ADR6410LRA is a UTSI_005. Therefore a lot of the steps are not needed.
As of right now, my bootloader is unlocked, and the phone is rooted, and everything is working fine. I also installed TWRP. So....for those that have the LRA version instead of the Verizon, everything here applies and will work fine.
Thought this may help a few.
Hello my sis recently purchased an sprint iPhone 5s about a week ago from eBay it arrived with no Sim and I didn't think that was a problem as sprint is CDMA well trying to activate it was a different story talked to sprint after self activating wouldn't work and found out it did require a Sim so got transferred to sprint international and got to order a free Sim from them it arrived and activation didn't work talked to support and guy said I was sent an android varrarent of the Sim after he checked the numbers and I would have to reorder an iPhone compatible one they gave me free overnight ship and it came and activated fine my question is tho
Would it be possible to activate cheap Chinese phones like the goophone or there new s5Clones/generic android sim phones on sprint. I ask this question because the only Google results I could find were from like 2008 and older So not to relevant today and BTW I still don't like iPhone over priced fads that do half as much as a android
Anyone this is messing with me not knowing
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Anyone this is messing with me not knowing
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i would of thought this thread/topic would of had a lot more traffic who wouldn't want a cheap replacement Chinese phone as a backup in-case of accidents or theft and loss on the sprint network.
i basically just wanted to know if possible because last time i knew of sprint was cdma only still but i don't understand why they would have android sim card
You will have to check pretty carefully to make sure that the Chinese phone has the correct frequencies for use on what ever Carrier you go with. There is an article here discussing the pros and cons of getting a Chinese branded phone.
One thing to note is that the Moto G pretty much takes every Chinese phone to school and for not really that much more $$$.
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You will have to check pretty carefully to make sure that the Chinese phone has the correct frequencies for use on what ever Carrier you go with. There is an article here discussing the pros and cons of getting a Chinese branded phone.
One thing to note is that the Moto G pretty much takes every Chinese phone to school and for not really that much more $$$.
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yea there are only a few company's i found the supports hspa+ net10 / with an at&t sim i figure at&t too but i believe every usa gsm network if i recall correctly supports voice and text bandwidths
my dad purchased a n9776 about a year ago and his data speeds on net10 with an at&t sim was around 15-18mpbs down before they rolled out the new plans for net10. now hes thinking of switching carriers the apns keep switching and loosing connection every other day causing his mms and data to stop working until we reenter the settings. but i'd like to know if sprint would be a viable option in the future (much better customer support). recently his charging port on his phone broke so he looking for a new phone. ill show him that moto g
Hello guys,
I did see 5hat the Galaxy s9 plus is cheaper through Samsung or through Best Buy Friday. The phone that is cheaper is the unlocked version that works with any carrier including Verizon which I get. My question is will the unlocked version work with, or have a way to download Verizon Visual Voicemail, and will it work? Appreciate the feedback.
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Hello guys,
I did see 5hat the Galaxy s9 plus is cheaper through Samsung or through Best Buy Friday. The phone that is cheaper is the unlocked version that works with any carrier including Verizon which I get. My question is will the unlocked version work with, or have a way to download Verizon Visual Voicemail, and will it work? Appreciate the feedback.
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To piggy back off of this question (since I am in similar boat with AT&T) - Is it possible to flash the phone with the carrier version after purchasing unlocked version? Unfortunately, WiFi calling is a must where I live.
Thanks
I'm also in the same situation with Verizon. I want to get the unlocked version, but will everything work just like the verizon branded device? Also does anyone know if the Samsung trade in offer will work with a Verizon phone that's on payment plan?
Also wondering if sideloading the app will work for this purpose.
LgG2-Ttrain said:
I'm also in the same situation with Verizon. I want to get the unlocked version, but will everything work just like the verizon branded device? Also does anyone know if the Samsung trade in offer will work with a Verizon phone that's on payment plan?
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I don't see why they shouldn't take it. I've sold phones on Verizon payment plan and haven't had any problems. The carriers only care that you continue to make payments and fire that they bill you monthly.
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I don't see why they shouldn't take it. I've sold phones on Verizon payment plan and haven't had any problems. The carriers only care that you continue to make payments and fire that they bill you monthly.
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Yes I just finished reading the fine print in Samsung's trade in offer. So the only phones they will not accept as trade ins are leased phones.
Just went through this at Best Buy on Friday, also.
Was strongly considering the unlocked S9+ and porting it to the VZW network. I inquired with the blue-shirt if there would be any loss of functionality should I make such a choice. The answer was "no".
The Samsung representative was in attendance, so I put the question to him as well. After glazing over while he went into an analogy of how your IMEI and SIM card are like licensing a car - and how they all can drive on the same road - I directed him back to the issue at hand, and his response was "no difference".
Then I called VZW, waited for the obligatory 15 minutes on hold, and asked the representative the same question. The answer was "No. None. Exactly the same."
Did a few searches on the feature I was specifically concerned about - that being Wi-Fi calling - and it appeared, from an historical perspective, there would be the potential for that functionality to be absent unless one purchased the branded device.
The VZW store was across the street, so I brought my question to them. In an experience that is as unique as it was surprising, I was lucky enough to get a salesperson who genuinely seemed to want to know the definitive answer as much as I did. He researched his on-line documentation for a few minutes before calling what he claimed to be their "network engineer".
The answer came back that VoLTE would work but Wi-Fi calling would not, on an unlocked S9+ ROM in the VZW network.
I've subsequently read contradicting indications but, considering the self-assigned importance of that capability, I decided not to chance it and find out the hard way that it would not work - should that be the case.
While this does not address your Visual Voice Mail concern, it does demonstrate exactly how many differing answers one can get from supposedly knowledgeable resources.
So, my solution was to lease the branded device with the understanding that I will need to deal with all of the pre-loaded stuff that I (or for that matter, just about anyone) do not need, want or use.
I have seen this questions asked hundreds of times, and I have seen both answers regarding WiFi calling. I know I have purchased unlocked phones right from Google in the past and never had an issue with any feature on VZW. I guess I will find out soon if anything has changed, as I ordered the 9+ unlocked from Samsung (they offered $100 more in a trade and a cheaper base price = no brainer). Will the confusion ever end?
Having had a unlocked s8+ and a Note 8 with VZ I can say VVM does not work. I've tried various applications and am not a fan of using google voice so I reached out and had standard messaging applied to my account and basic VVM removed. I'll get a notification but have to call in to check my voicemail which is no biggie. Never tried wifi calling but HD Voice does work ok. I preordered an unlocked S9+ so I'm sure it'll be the same boat
Verizon had the demo for the s9 plus in their store today, and the model of the phone is IDENTICAL to the unlocked US model. Also kinda wishing I'd stuck to the purple one I'd ordered by accident and cancelled, as it looks amazing in person.
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With the S7, you could flash the any of the carrier or unlocked firmware on the phone. This would give you access to verizon VVM, WiFI calling, etc if you flashed that firmware. I heard the S8 was the same since the hardware in them are the same between carriers. Here's to hoping that the S9 is the same.
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To piggy back off of this question (since I am in similar boat with AT&T) - Is it possible to flash the phone with the carrier version after purchasing unlocked version? Unfortunately, WiFi calling is a must where I live.
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If you want WiFi Calling on Att - you MUST buy an ATT phone. ATT WiFi calling will only work with Branded ATT Phones - NOT unlocked ones. Sorry.
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If you want WiFi Calling on Att - you MUST buy an ATT phone. ATT WiFi calling will only work with Branded ATT Phones - NOT unlocked ones. Sorry.
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This is true. If you want wifi calling (which I do), you need an AT&T phone. You can't flash anything on the phone to make it work. A few extra AT&T apps is not a big deal on a phone like this to get the features they provide. If you pay for their service you should get all the benefits but that's not how it is for now.
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This is true. If you want wifi calling (which I do), you need an AT&T phone. You can't flash anything on the phone to make it work. A few extra AT&T apps is not a big deal on a phone like this to get the features they provide. If you pay for their service you should get all the benefits but that's not how it is for now.
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And that is very unfortunate. I am hoping that one day they will open up WiFi Calling to non carrier phones - but I doubt it will happen any time soon if at all.
Is it the same for tmobile?
Just got off the phone with a Tier 2 Tech Coach with VZW and they said that they can only "guarantee the VZW branded phones will work with their features." I specifically asked about VVM and WiFi calling. They suggested I stick to the VZW branded model. I explained that their model was virtually $100 more than the unlocked version from Samsung and I wasn't sure why that was on "basically the same phone." She was kind and courteous, but certainly it's another way for Big Red to make more money.
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Is it the same for tmobile?
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GS8 Unlocked worked with both VoLTE and Wifi Calling on TMO so there is no reason for the GS9+ unlocked not to support these features.
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Is it the same for tmobile?
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Just got off the phone with a Tier 2 Tech Coach with VZW and they said that they can only "guarantee the VZW branded phones will work with their features." I specifically asked about VVM and WiFi calling. They suggested I stick to the VZW branded model. I explained that their model was virtually $100 more than the unlocked version from Samsung and I wasn't sure why that was on "basically the same phone." She was kind and courteous, but certainly it's another way for Big Red to make more money.
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Problem with VZW is support for integrated video calling thru the phone app which is different from the Samsung default. On VZW the unlocked USA version will support VoLTE but not WIfi Calling, VVM, Video Calling.
my 2 cents.
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Just got off the phone with a Tier 2 Tech Coach with VZW and they said that they can only "guarantee the VZW branded phones will work with their features." I specifically asked about VVM and WiFi calling. They suggested I stick to the VZW branded model. I explained that their model was virtually $100 more than the unlocked version from Samsung and I wasn't sure why that was on "basically the same phone." She was kind and courteous, but certainly it's another way for Big Red to make more money.
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They're wrong. I tested a Verizon model in stores, and it's literally the exact same model number as the unlocked one I've got on order from Samsung. But of course they want you to buy the Verizon one, the mark up in the price is pure profit for them, and they probably get a commission for selling it to you.
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Just got off the phone with a Tier 2 Tech Coach with VZW and they said that they can only "guarantee the VZW branded phones will work with their features." I specifically asked about VVM and WiFi calling. They suggested I stick to the VZW branded model. I explained that their model was virtually $100 more than the unlocked version from Samsung and I wasn't sure why that was on "basically the same phone." She was kind and courteous, but certainly it's another way for Big Red to make more money.
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Don't forget their useless $30+ "activation fee" they charge when you buy a device through them. I shouldn't have to pay $30 to take the SIM out of my old phone and put it in my new phone. I'm going with the unlocked version because I'm considering switching to T-Mobile due to all this type of crap Verizon pulls.
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Yes I just finished reading the fine print in Samsung's trade in offer. So the only phones they will not accept as trade ins are leased phones.
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So I'm curious what happens if you have a leased phone. Do they just not accept it and then charge your card for what you weren't charged at time of checkout?
So i bought a G5 on ebay. seller says it's unlock for both international and domestic and should work also with sprint.
Trying to activate with meid just give you cannot activate this phone on sprint site. Sprint store says not compatible with sprint network. I was able to get them to give me a sprint g5 sim card anyway. when i insert that at home, the phone detects sprint 3g network
got online with sprint chat, they again says phone is not registered in sprint network and therefore cannot be used.. they keep on saying i have to use a sprint labeled g5 phone?
Is there anything i can do about this? is sprint reps just being an ass (not their fault or maybe because they just being brainwashed by the corporate) or is there some real technical thing preventing them from registering my phone? It did detect sprint network when sprint sim is inserted after all.
Anything i can do about all this? Thanks.
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So i bought a G5 on ebay. seller says it's unlock for both international and domestic and should work also with sprint.
Trying to activate with meid just give you cannot activate this phone on sprint site. Sprint store says not compatible with sprint network. I was able to get them to give me a sprint g5 sim card anyway. when i insert that at home, the phone detects sprint 3g network
got online with sprint chat, they again says phone is not registered in sprint network and therefore cannot be used.. they keep on saying i have to use a sprint labeled g5 phone?
Is there anything i can do about this? is sprint reps just being an ass (not their fault or maybe because they just being brainwashed by the corporate) or is there some real technical thing preventing them from registering my phone? It did detect sprint network when sprint sim is inserted after all.
Anything i can do about all this? Thanks.
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Maybe if you really got high enough up on the engineer food chain, they might be able to override it. The software they use to activate phones will not allow phones outside of their system. If it's not on the list of acceptable IMIEs too bad. Had the same problem a while ago on a Nexus 5x that was fully compatible. It wasn't in the list even though they said all 5Xs are compatible on their website. After a couple of hours on the phone, I decided it was just easier to return the phone on eBay.
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Maybe if you really got high enough up on the engineer food chain, they might be able to override it. The software they use to activate phones will not allow phones outside of their system. If it's not on the list of acceptable IMIEs too bad. Had the same problem a while ago on a Nexus 5x that was fully compatible. It wasn't in the list even though they said all 5Xs are compatible on their website. After a couple of hours on the phone, I decided it was just easier to return the phone on eBay.
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Anyone has any hints or tip on how i can accomplish this? what do i need to say to the sprint rep? I think it's BS they doing this. They allow BYOD but then they do this kind of crap? I really don't understand at all!
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Anyone has any hints or tip on how i can accomplish this? what do i need to say to the sprint rep? I think it's BS they doing this. They allow BYOD but then they do this kind of crap? I really don't understand at all!
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Why don't you return it to the seller? Unless it's the Sprint version of the phone or the RS988 it's not going to work with Sprint.
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Why don't you return it to the seller? Unless it's the Sprint version of the phone or the RS988 it's not going to work with Sprint.
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It was actually RS988. I think it was a prior verizon phone as i went to verizon website just testing out adding the imei. it says the phone is no longer eligible to be activated on verizon...... what kind of bs is that?
I guess it;s possible that that phone didn't have all the bands needed by sprint? Anyway, i went ahead and returned it. Got a sprint labeled G5..... the imei seems to check out so far when i tried it on sprint website.... just haven't tried to switch over yet since i still need to back up data from old phone over.....
Hey everyone,
So I did this on my personal phones a few years ago, and even my MIL's phone (Mother in law). I cut the SIM card in those cases, and plugged it into the new phone, and all worked just fine for the most part (MIL phone is having issues, maybe because I did a poor job of the manual cutting).
Anyway, now I'm on the FIL's phone (father in law). I activated a brand new phone on an old Droid Turbo phone, and it's working fine there. I moved the SIM to the new V30 (originally US998) and it's not registering on the network. I wonder if I just did this too quickly (I didn't let the SIM "sit" on the Turbo for very long)... which is why I moved it back there now. I figure I should let it sit there for a bit, and then try again?
Any ideas on what else I can try? Basically, the V30 was saying it saw the phone number, but it said IMS not registered... any ideas on how we can fix that? The *#*#4636#*#* doesn't work on the LG phones... I've used Shortcut Master before to register VOLTE, but I'm out of my realm here because the SIM is not registering the phone, so that's not an APN or VOLTE issue.
Any help or ideas are appreciated... thank you!
EDIT: One more comment. I'm hoping to go to VZ tomorrow and get a new card for the MIL phone. In order to activate that SIM, I'll have to activate that SIM on the Turbo, otherwise VZ will throw a hissyfit for the mismatched IMEI. So, I'm hoping I can repeat this process with the new SIM on that phone... I'm hoping we don't have this problem there too.
Ugh, VZ, why do you suck so bad.
I've been down a similar path. I own the same phones. You didn't mention which rom is on the v30 but suspect it is a us998. I, too, had some difficulties getting my v30 to work properly on the vz network. The turbo with a stock verizon rom came in handy to set vz account/network options.
1) Install stock MM rom on the turbo. The debloated one by computer_freak works great. You can get it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/dr.../computerfreek274mm1-0-android-6-0-1-t3503634
2) Pop the vz sim in the turbo
3) Activate: HD calling, visual voicemail in the dialer, and set up volte. I don't remember if vowifi is an option on the turbo. If it is, then turn it on, too.
4) Put sim in the v30 and enjoy.
Another and possibly better option to get the sim and phone working together is to cross-flash to the verizon vs996 rom. The advantage of the vs996 rom is that vowifi and visual voicemail will work. I've never succeeded in getting vowifi provisioned on the us998 open market rom. That is some vz-lg shennanigan.
I second what cmrntnnr stated above and emphasize flashing VS996 on the V30. Big Red can still tell what your phone actually is by its IMEI. My V30 originally was a LS998. I also had to manually set the MMS settings to keep Verizon firmware from thinking it is a Sprint phone. Please see this if you have issues with MMS. https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-how-fixed-mms-settings-flashable-t3856109
Yes, I am on VS996 for this phone. And I did this very same process on my personal phones, but for some reason the new V30 isn't accepting the card, which is why I asked.
Yes, I know VZ can see it's not a true VS996. Thanks for the link to fix MMS, but I wanted to fix the lack of connection first before working on the other things.
I will try it again (maybe I swapped SIMs "too fast" for the VZ network to accept it or something?... though I swapped it back to the FIL's LG G3 with no issues... so very weird, and annoying).
All that said, we may just get them "true" VS996s instead, because that way they can still get help from VZ when they aren't nearby (they live in FL, while I'm in CT). It's not that VZ can't help, it's just that they won't... that's what pisses me off...
EDIT: Again, the question is, why isn't this phone connecting? It's seeing the phone number, sees the SIM fine, just wouldn't connect to the network and kept saying it wasn't registered... didn't know if there was a trick I could do or something to force it (probably not, as it may be a VZ-server thing, but who knows).
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Yes, I am on VS996 for this phone. And I did this very same process on my personal phones, but for some reason the new V30 isn't accepting the card, which is why I asked.
Yes, I know VZ can see it's not a true VS996. Thanks for the link to fix MMS, but I wanted to fix the lack of connection first before working on the other things.
I will try it again (maybe I swapped SIMs "too fast" for the VZ network to accept it or something?... though I swapped it back to the FIL's LG G3 with no issues... so very weird, and annoying).
All that said, we may just get them "true" VS996s instead, because that way they can still get help from VZ when they aren't nearby (they live in FL, while I'm in CT). It's not that VZ can't help, it's just that they won't... that's what pisses me off...
EDIT: Again, the question is, why isn't this phone connecting? It's seeing the phone number, sees the SIM fine, just wouldn't connect to the network and kept saying it wasn't registered... didn't know if there was a trick I could do or something to force it (probably not, as it may be a VZ-server thing, but who knows).
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Try the Verizon secret menu and play around with the settings: *#*#4636#*#* or LG Secret Menu (must use stock LG dialer and not Google dialer): *#546368#*996#
HueyT said:
Try the Verizon secret menu and play around with the settings: *#*#4636#*#* or LG Secret Menu (must use stock LG dialer and not Google dialer): *#546368#*996#
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Awesome, this is what I was looking for.
I tried getting to the secret menu, but it never seems to work (even on stock dialer). When I did the VOLTE fix on my phone, I had to use ShortcutMaster.
Regardless, once there, what should I look for/do?
I have the phone back in-hand now. As before, the SIM works fine in the old phone (LG G3) but it still doesn't connect with the new V30 (on VS996). Note, I did use a SIM adapter to put it into the old phone (it uses micro-SIM sized cards). And, again, it's seeing the correct phone number, but it's not connecting to the network. Network mode is set to global (default) and toggling that around doesn't help.
I also got ShortcutMasterLite to let me into the 4636 menu, but I don't see anything wrong in there either. Not sure how to get this phone working?!
I'm now wondering if it's just a defective phone? I'm seeing signal levels that match my other phone, but still, who knows? Maybe the radio is having issues or something... I suppose I could try my personal SIM instead, or something?
So no help.... not that I'm blaming anyone.
Problem is that the Ebay listing said that this phone will NOT work on VZ, etc. So, I don't have much hope of the seller helping me, even though it's a completely false statement, as we all know. So, I may have to convert back to US998 and then test with an ATT SIM to prove to the seller that this is a defective phone. Anyone have any ideas on how I could do this? For example, would anyone be willing to meet me somewhere (I live in CT, but I can drive wherever in New England) to try your SIM on this phone? I figure, if it doesn't work, then I have proof that it's defective. Otherwise, I don't think the seller is going to even try to help.
Anyone willing to throw me a bone here with a little help? Or anyone have other ideas on how I can test? Does ATT have a prepaid thing that I could try for a month (low cost) to prove it out or something? I know far too little about ATT...
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Anyone willing to throw me a bone here with a little help? Or anyone have other ideas on how I can test? Does ATT have a prepaid thing that I could try for a month (low cost) to prove it out or something? I know far too little about ATT...
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Yes.
They have a Prepaid minutes plan they don't like to advertise.
https://www.att.com/buy/wireless/prepaid/devicesandplans
When you put in your IMEI to the AT&T Prepaid webpage put all zeroes instead of your real IMEI and it will show you all plans, not just what they want to sell you.
Also AT&T Prepaid uses same same regular AT&T SIM cards. Don't let them sell you some special SIM card.
I'd have reached out to help if I had any ideas. Your hypothesis that it is broken seems reasonable and so does flashing it to US998 as verification.
Getting on the ATT network without ATT is a breeze. Cruise down to Walmart and pick up a StraightTalk kit for $30-50. It will have sims for VZ, ATT, and TM so you can choose whichever network is best for you. They're good to have around.
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Hey everyone,
So I did this on my personal phones a few years ago, and even my MIL's phone (Mother in law). I cut the SIM card in those cases, and plugged it into the new phone, and all worked just fine for the most part (MIL phone is having issues, maybe because I did a poor job of the manual cutting).
Anyway, now I'm on the FIL's phone (father in law). I activated a brand new phone on an old Droid Turbo phone, and it's working fine there. I moved the SIM to the new V30 (originally US998) and it's not registering on the network. I wonder if I just did this too quickly (I didn't let the SIM "sit" on the Turbo for very long)... which is why I moved it back there now. I figure I should let it sit there for a bit, and then try again?
Any ideas on what else I can try? Basically, the V30 was saying it saw the phone number, but it said IMS not registered... any ideas on how we can fix that? The *#*#4636#*#* doesn't work on the LG phones... I've used Shortcut Master before to register VOLTE, but I'm out of my realm here because the SIM is not registering the phone, so that's not an APN or VOLTE issue.
Any help or ideas are appreciated... thank you!
EDIT: One more comment. I'm hoping to go to VZ tomorrow and get a new card for the MIL phone. In order to activate that SIM, I'll have to activate that SIM on the Turbo, otherwise VZ will throw a hissyfit for the mismatched IMEI. So, I'm hoping I can repeat this process with the new SIM on that phone... I'm hoping we don't have this problem there too.
Ugh, VZ, why do you suck so bad.
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schwinn8 said:
So no help.... not that I'm blaming anyone.
Problem is that the Ebay listing said that this phone will NOT work on VZ, etc. So, I don't have much hope of the seller helping me, even though it's a completely false statement, as we all know. So, I may have to convert back to US998 and then test with an ATT SIM to prove to the seller that this is a defective phone. Anyone have any ideas on how I could do this? For example, would anyone be willing to meet me somewhere (I live in CT, but I can drive wherever in New England) to try your SIM on this phone? I figure, if it doesn't work, then I have proof that it's defective. Otherwise, I don't think the seller is going to even try to help.
Anyone willing to throw me a bone here with a little help? Or anyone have other ideas on how I can test? Does ATT have a prepaid thing that I could try for a month (low cost) to prove it out or something? I know far too little about ATT...
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schwinn8 said:
So no help.... not that I'm blaming anyone.
Problem is that the Ebay listing said that this phone will NOT work on VZ, etc. So, I don't have much hope of the seller helping me, even though it's a completely false statement, as we all know. So, I may have to convert back to US998 and then test with an ATT SIM to prove to the seller that this is a defective phone. Anyone have any ideas on how I could do this? For example, would anyone be willing to meet me somewhere (I live in CT, but I can drive wherever in New England) to try your SIM on this phone? I figure, if it doesn't work, then I have proof that it's defective. Otherwise, I don't think the seller is going to even try to help.
Anyone willing to throw me a bone here with a little help? Or anyone have other ideas on how I can test? Does ATT have a prepaid thing that I could try for a month (low cost) to prove it out or something? I know far too little about ATT...
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Which VS996 version did you flash? Nougat, Oreo, Pie? Try Nougat as it's the most reliable VS996. US998 Nougat should read VZW sim also.
Thanks for the tips on ATT and Straight Talk. I think I will have to try that, but first I'm going to try to get the ebay seller to "promise" me that if I go through this, that they'll actually do something to help. Otherwise I'm just spending money for no reason.
As for the VS996, it was Oreo, the same version I'm using on my personal phones, and the other V30 - you may recall that the MIL's phone is functioning, but the FIL's is the one that is just not connecting at all... I always get 0-bars with the "x" on that one. That's what I'm trying to fix here...
Again, thanks for the tips, let's see what I can get done here with all your excellent help!
Ok, so the debacle is over. I wanted to provide a little info for what ended up happening, and what I learned.
Longer story short, I was able to get the first H931 phone working fine with no issues. It runs on VZ towers on VS996 and US998 (I created a video for the latter, to prove it to myself and the warranty company). The second one refused to work on VZ, and I felt it had issues on GSM carriers as well (I tested Mint Mobile, as it was free). This phone was sent for repair to a warranty company that the ebay seller offered to pay for.
The warranty company tried to get that phone to work on VZ, but couldn't. They kept telling me that this was "not possible" when, as we all know, it most certainly is. Bottom line, something is defective with that phone, as I suspected. However, I expect no one is going to bother to repair it so it will likely show up on Ebay or wherever again as an H931 (or US998) with this problem persisting. I figure another buyer may not notice it, as long as they don't use VZ....
But, the moral here is that you should be careful when you buy the device, to ensure that the seller doesn't put text on their post saying that it won't work on other carriers. I was afraid of this text, but I went forward anyway as I (and we) know this works fine. I also proved it on one phone (the first one). However, if the seller says this, then they won't necessarily take any steps to help fix the issue if there is a problem anyway. I got lucky and my seller at least provided me with the warranty card, which helped a lot.
The warranty company did do everything they could to help. I have to commend them on that, as we are hacking the phone, after all... but Jose was very understanding and helpful regardless. For this reason, I really recommend their service... they are CPS Warranty and they can be found at https://www.cpscentral.com/ Again, they could have blown me off, but they didn't... and after all that, they offered a settlement to pay be back for the phone since they couldn't get it working on VZ. I'm out a little money, but the settlement was fair, so I can't complain.
So, while this all works, we do need to be careful, as some devices are defective and hard to detect for this type of issue.