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http://www.laptopmag.com/review/tablets/google-nexus-10.aspx
Some of my concerns seem to be true, the enormous resolution zaps a lot of the Mali 604s GPU power in games and graphics benchmarks making it at or below 3d performance of the older tf700. I just ask myself is such a high resolution so necessary? 1080p could've done it IMO, and it would have increased performance a lot in games. What's the point of a crystal clear resolution if the games are choppy?
The Exynos CPU score is great though and it'll be a good tablet for people wanting just a nice internet experience and viewing movies I'm sure will be great. Just disappointed about the 3D performance.
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Toyeboy said:
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/tablets/google-nexus-10.aspx
Some of my concerns seem to be true, the enormous resolution zaps a lot of the Mali 604s GPU power in games and graphics benchmarks making it at or below 3d performance of the older tf700. I just ask myself is such a high resolution so necessary? 1080p could've done it IMO, and it would have increased performance a lot in games. What's the point of a crystal clear resolution if the games are choppy?
The Exynos CPU score is great though and it'll be a good tablet for people wanting just a nice internet experience and viewing movies I'm sure will be great. Just disappointed about the 3D performance.
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We have a review thread already. All reviews are done on pre-release SW therefore not giving final scores.
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We have a review thread already. All reviews are done on pre-release SW therefore not giving final scores.
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I don't buy that. Why would pre-release software be slower or return poorer benchmark results when there are only 10 days to go before launch?
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I don't buy that. Why would pre-release software be slower or return poorer benchmark results when there are only 10 days to go before launch?
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Firstly, I do computer science at uni and depending what software design methodology Google uses, software optimization/debugging is generally the last step, getting everything working is a lot more important. Also, for a company like google, 10 days can make a huge difference, but we don't know how old that prerelease software and hardware is. For example andy rubin was using a prerelease nexus 4 which had lock screen widgets and he stressed that it wasn't the final product. Yet these reviews devices don't have lock screen widgets among other features which says these review units are older than the one andy rubin was using last week. Therefore using deduction, we could guess that these devices that the reviews are using could be running software from a week or two ago at a min, and add 10 days from now till the 13th. Lets just say 20 days is a hell of a long time in software development terms, especially for a company with the resources of google. Hope that helps
Yeah I think the reviews are going to be very close to the release versions which are most likely already packaged and ready for retail considering they're releasing November 13th. I hope gpu performance improves honestly or maybe if developers can run games at a lower resolution and upscale or something.
Still performance will be smooth and crystal clear outside of demanding games.
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Yeah I think the reviews are going to be very close to the release versions which are most likely already packaged and ready for retail considering they're releasing November 13th. I hope gpu performance improves honestly or maybe if developers can run games at a lower resolution and upscale or something.
Still performance will be smooth and crystal clear outside of demanding games.
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Yeah, that's true. You could use 4 pixels for every 'real' pixel and still have a sharper image than any other tab out there.
But danielsf has a point, and knows a lot more about it than I do. 20 days is a lot for a team of 20-odd people working a 9-5er for 16 of those days.
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Who says they're even working 9-5? Many software companies set a deadline for their developers and the developers work however they want so long as it is done. My friend works writing tax software and he will work 30 hour weeks for most of the year but towards October the usual programmer is working 50+ hour weeks so that they'll hit their deadline in mid December.
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Who says they're even working 9-5? Many software companies set a deadline for their developers and the developers work however they want so long as it is done. My friend works writing tax software and he will work 30 hour weeks for most of the year but towards October the usual programmer is working 50+ hour weeks so that they'll hit their deadline in mid December.
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True, that does sound like a 'big tech firm' thing to do, especially one with a personal project funding thing.
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What's the point of a crystal clear resolution if the games are choppy?
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So the adults can have a high end device and use it for its intended purpose.
People should stop feeding into benchmarks so much. I bet it'll still play 3d games just fine. If my lower clocked tegra3 nexus7 can play 3d games fine(no chop or slowdown) then nexus 10 will push those games with ease(even with higher resolution).
I never base my purchases off of benchmarks. I take in all the reviews then try for myself. The best indicator of performance is you using the device in your usage scenarios.
Toyeboy said:
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/tablets/google-nexus-10.aspx
Some of my concerns seem to be true, the enormous resolution zaps a lot of the Mali 604s GPU power in games and graphics benchmarks making it at or below 3d performance of the older tf700. I just ask myself is such a high resolution so necessary? 1080p could've done it IMO, and it would have increased performance a lot in games. What's the point of a crystal clear resolution if the games are choppy?
The Exynos CPU score is great though and it'll be a good tablet for people wanting just a nice internet experience and viewing movies I'm sure will be great. Just disappointed about the 3D performance.
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I don't trust these new benchmarks.
GLBench is somewhat more accurate, in my opinion.
Look at those scores, they should be much more indicative.
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So the adults can have a high end device and use it for its intended purpose.
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who's to say what it's intended purpose is? It's different for everyone and games happen to be very important for me. I look at every aspect of a device before I buy.
Just curious, but why does benchmarks show lower score for this SoC on tne N10 than eg. the Chromebook with the same SoC?
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Just curious, but why does benchmarks show lower score for this SoC on tne N10 than eg. the Chromebook with the same SoC?
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Difference in chrome os and android os & power constraints on a tablet vs a notebook.
slide83 said:
Difference in chrome os and android os & power constraints on a tablet vs a notebook.
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Could we hope for a more optimised Android code increasing performance?
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Could we hope for a more optimised Android code increasing performance?
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Yes. Often this is the case, particularly with a device that is changing the paradigm as much as the Nexus 10 is.
My attitude toward these pre-release benchmarks is this. Take a casual look at them and note what they say, but don't read too much into them. Wait for the full release version and see how it actually performs. If there are a lot of people *****ing about something after it is released, assess how easy that would be to be fixed and the likelihood that it will be. If it is something that will likely be addressed in the near future, great. If not, then take a closer look before purchasing.
While I would love to have a Nexus 10 yesterday, I'm willing to wait and let the early adopters take a few arrows to see how this device actually performs before deciding if I will spend some of my hard earned money on it. :victory:
I think I'm just concerned about how it will affect the fluidity of the user interface. All the resolution in the world isn't worth it if you can't pinch and zoom or scroll a webpage/magazine app without choppiness.
They made a big deal about Project butter I hope this isn't a regression because the gpu can't keep up.
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I think I'm just concerned about how it will affect the fluidity of the user interface. All the resolution in the world isn't worth it if you can't pinch and zoom or scroll a webpage/magazine app without choppiness.
They made a big deal about Project butter I hope this isn't a regression because the gpu can't keep up.
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I agree, but I've heard its pretty smooth n the menus.
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Maybe Google/Samsung intentionally set the expectation low and positively surprise us on release day like turning off debugging which tends to zap performance.
mi7chy said:
Maybe Google/Samsung intentionally set the expectation low and positively surprise us on release day like turning off debugging which tends to zap performance.
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Don't think they'd intentionally do such a thing, but they did release these beta devices for testing knowing the final 4.2 SW is not ready yet. It's all a bit rushed so I don't expect significant improvement out of the box (but an overall smooth performance in both at browsing and gaming), and since Samsung is doubling GPU cores for the S4, I feel the Nexus 10's bottleneck will always be the quad-core Mali T604, despite performance optimizations surely to come. That 4M screen is a performance hungry beast.
I received my Nexus 6P last night and it appeared perfect build , but I am not impressed so I first of all am asking for your results with benchmarks I did but my experience so far:
"Just received my Nexus 6P and took some pictures comparing to the Shamu and without a doubt the Shamu had better lighting and overall detail. In addition, the speaker was louder and demonstrated more of a stereo presence than the 6P. I felt that the performance of accessing and opening apps was just as good if not better with the Shamu and that lead me to run the Antutu benchmark and the results were telling.
In the Antutu, both were run with no applications loaded and the difference was more than 13K in favor of the Shamu ?? 52+ vs 39
As if that was not enough I ran Geekbench 3 and the results were even more dramatic. 1064 single core 3273 multi / 726 single 2882 multi
What this experience so far has led me to believe is that either I have a very good Shamu OR the Nexus 6P is defective
What are your results so far with your benchmarks and it would be good if you also have a Nexus 6 Shamu to compare as well.
I frankly was very shocked with the camera performance and now the benchmarks.. Is this phone defective and need an RMA or ???
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I received my Nexus 6P last night and it appeared perfect build , but I am not impressed so I first of all am asking for your results with benchmarks I did but my experience so far:
"Just received my Nexus 6P and took some pictures comparing to the Shamu and without a doubt the Shamu had better lighting and overall detail. In addition, the speaker was louder and demonstrated more of a stereo presence than the 6P. I felt that the performance of accessing and opening apps was just as good if not better with the Shamu and that lead me to run the Antutu benchmark and the results were telling.
In the Antutu, both were run with no applications loaded and the difference was more than 13K in favor of the Shamu ?? 52+ vs 39
As if that was not enough I ran Geekbench 3 and the results were even more dramatic. 1064 single core 3273 multi / 726 single 2882 multi
What this experience so far has led me to believe is that either I have a very good Shamu OR the Nexus 6P is defective
What are your results so far with your benchmarks and it would be good if you also have a Nexus 6 Shamu to compare as well.
I frankly was very shocked with the camera performance and now the benchmarks.. Is this phone defective and need an RMA or ???
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I never owned the nexus 6, so I can't speak to its strengths or weaknesses, but I can tell you that so far I've been thoroughly impressed by the 6p. For me it's been an incredibly smooth phone, with really nothing to complain about, and I'm tough to please when it comes to phones.
Well it appears that your 2 scores are really much better than what I have seen after running repeats of the tests.
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Well it appears that your 2 scores are really much better than what I have seen after running repeats of the tests.
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If you're running test after test then the phone will be throttling and giving lower scores.
painfree said:
I received my Nexus 6P last night and it appeared perfect build , but I am not impressed so I first of all am asking for your results with benchmarks I did but my experience so far:
"Just received my Nexus 6P and took some pictures comparing to the Shamu and without a doubt the Shamu had better lighting and overall detail. In addition, the speaker was louder and demonstrated more of a stereo presence than the 6P. I felt that the performance of accessing and opening apps was just as good if not better with the Shamu and that lead me to run the Antutu benchmark and the results were telling.
In the Antutu, both were run with no applications loaded and the difference was more than 13K in favor of the Shamu ?? 52+ vs 39
As if that was not enough I ran Geekbench 3 and the results were even more dramatic. 1064 single core 3273 multi / 726 single 2882 multi
What this experience so far has led me to believe is that either I have a very good Shamu OR the Nexus 6P is defective
What are your results so far with your benchmarks and it would be good if you also have a Nexus 6 Shamu to compare as well.
I frankly was very shocked with the camera performance and now the benchmarks.. Is this phone defective and need an RMA or ???
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Are both your phones encrypted? Because the 6p is encrypted default. Also benchmarks are notoriously unreliable. Snapdragon 810 (6p) is 64 bit while Snapdragon 805 (6) is 32 bit comparing the two accurately may prove difficult. Many other things are different about the two devices. Things that make the nexus 6 undesirable, in my opinion.
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Also this http://m.pocketnow.com/2013/07/23/benchmark-scores
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Agree about benchmarks as a rule but since with the identical apps loaded on both units, the N6P was not performing as smoothly as the Nexus 6 and with the faster RAM I expected more smoothness and thus my questions. Both are encrypted . I will say the HDR is more effective on the 6P and running the speed test on Ookla I get better scores with the 6P . Although the speakers on the Shamu are both louder and demonstrate more of a stereo presence, I am waiting for my case to arrive before I put the SIM in and take the 6P outside to see how it performs as a phone for after all that is really what I need (Better T Mobile performance).
As a non-related side note, the Nexus 5 was worthless inside the house with T Mobile and the Shamu is usable on the LTE. I will see how the 6P performs.
There's a dedicated benchmark thread you can ask about this in... Here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/benchmarks-t3239734
No need for another. :good:
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hey
my phone was in sep security update 931 lg att the score was 164k in antutu game performance wasnt ok kind of laggy {pubg}
now after making the last update after switching to us99820h. march security score jumped to 181k and pubg performance improved .
so please someone can explain why 835 cpu is being hold back to its best { around 205k antutu } .
dont tell me duduhduhduh antutu fake blah blah the performance was noticed in game and pubg was kind of smooth compared to 164k old score .
LG wake up i hope they improve it to its max potential with pie , anybody knows how to contact them ?
i saw a guy getting 197k liquid mix rom so whats going on with lg rom .
Mayersdz said:
hey
my phone was in sep security update 931 lg att the score was 164k in antutu game performance wasnt ok kind of laggy {pubg}
now after making the last update after switching to us99820h. march security score jumped to 181k and pubg performance improved .
so please someone can explain why 835 cpu is being hold back to its best { around 205k antutu } .
dont tell me duduhduhduh antutu fake blah blah the performance was noticed in game and pubg was kind of smooth compared to 164k old score .
LG wake up i hope they improve it to its max potential with pie , anybody knows how to contact them ?
i saw a guy getting 197k liquid mix rom so whats going on with lg rom .
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Well, looks like from September 2018 to March 2019, LG has improved performance... Give them a few more months and they'll get up to 200k.
Also, US998 doesn't have any carrier bloatware.
Lg implementation is bad for example the us998 oreo with july sec patch have only gpu driver v251 while samsung 835 devices is updated to 313 , that was a huge jump!. Also lg stock kernel like to throttle performance so much . read techspot review for lg v30. The only way is updating gpu driver and play with the kernel gorvenor. This mean we need to unlock bootloader and root.Wish we have a custom from mod stock kernel that bring optimized gorvenor like pixel 2 and one plus 5
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Lg implementation is bad for example the us998 oreo with july sec patch have only gpu driver v251 while samsung 835 devices is updated to 313 , that was a huge jump!. Also lg stock kernel like to throttle performance so much . read techspot review for lg v30. The only way is updating gpu driver and play with the kernel gorvenor. This mean we need to unlock bootloader and root.Wish we have a custom from mod stock kernel that bring optimized gorvenor like pixel 2 and one plus 5
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Why are you on July 2018 security patch? You can be on March 2019 in five minutes... Tons of improvements in the past 8 months.
Has nothing to do with Bootloader Unlock or root. It's just updating your firmware. That's why we post them here in this forum.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99820a040330-kdz-t3786337
Install US998 20H (March 2019 security patch) via LGUP.
ChazzMatt said:
Well, looks like from September 2018 to March 2019, LG has improved performance... Give them a few more months and they'll get up to 200k.
Also, US998 doesn't have any carrier bloatware.
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Mine is 181k also on 20H.
How's this? Rooted US998 20H with Performance governor. 196K. However, using Performance governor you will really use battery faster. One of the nice attributes of the v30 is the exceptional battery life.
Kernel Aduitor app.
Probably other stuff I could do in that app to go higher, but not interested. Just showing it can be done.
ChazzMatt said:
Well, looks like from September 2018 to March 2019, LG has improved performance... Give them a few more months and they'll get up to 200k.
Also, US998 doesn't have any carrier bloatware.
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used the nougat version of us998 exactly the last update of nougat and its the same as att its laggy . so the key was in last updates .
its kinda sad seing one plus 5 reach 215k and the battery is good at the same time while lg putting 835 and then throttling it to save battery , anyway atleast pubg is playable at extrem fps , i cant play games under 60 fps and that great screen lg got cant complain so much now .
Mayersdz said:
hey
my phone was in sep security update 931 lg att the score was 164k in antutu game performance wasnt ok kind of laggy {pubg}
now after making the last update after switching to us99820h. march security score jumped to 181k and pubg performance improved .
so please someone can explain why 835 cpu is being hold back to its best { around 205k antutu } .
dont tell me duduhduhduh antutu fake blah blah the performance was noticed in game and pubg was kind of smooth compared to 164k old score .
LG wake up i hope they improve it to its max potential with pie , anybody knows how to contact them ?
i saw a guy getting 197k liquid mix rom so whats going on with lg rom .
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You can download NFS-INJECTOR module...really works for me and its kinda based on making pubg work smoothly. Check out their xda thread or their telegram, they are very helpful folks.
Hello XDA,
I would like to preface that I have been a s9+ daily driver since launch and have faced no issues so far. Many people I chat with keep talking about benchmarks and how their device is faster. I dont notice any slowness between my phone and the next generations of phones. I have the phone set to reboot itself every week to. The phone felt snappy.
I even noticed the device improved with Android 10 and One UI 2.0. The benchmarks improved to but it's still scored lower. However daily usage has shown performance to be snappy.
So I ask is benchmarks really all that? Post your benchmarks below!
Benchmarks used: Vellemo, BaseMark 2, Geekbench 4, PcMark, 3D Mark
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Hello XDA,
I would like to preface that I have been a s9+ daily driver since launch and have faced no issues so far. Many people I chat with keep talking about benchmarks and how their device is faster. I dont notice any slowness between my phone and the next generations of phones. I have the phone set to reboot itself every week to. The phone felt snappy.
I even noticed the device improved with Android 10 and One UI 2.0. The benchmarks improved to but it's still scored lower. However daily usage has shown performance to be snappy.
So I ask is benchmarks really all that? Post your benchmarks below!
Benchmarks used: Vellemo, BaseMark 2, Geekbench 4, PcMark, 3D Mark
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In my opinion Benchmarks are garbage Its on how the device runs in your hand and feels day to day
benchmark in phones = meh
Google's Tensor inside of Pixel 6, Pixel 6 Pro: A Look into Performance & Efficiency:
Google's Tensor inside of Pixel 6, Pixel 6 Pro: A Look into Performance & Efficiency
www.anandtech.com
Just like I expected, very disappointing, to say the least. And Google's optimization is really average (looking at jitter tests on UI bench and jankbenchX). Hopefully they improve things ASAP and also improve A12. I also have some hope since some talented devs will get their hands on this phone.
I agree. I hoped for more. IMO it's an Exynos chip. Sifted through the source code and although this new GKI kernel is a bit different, there are about 20-30 "Exynos" labeled kernel modules.
Other weird things to, like doing some benchmarks while watching CPU/GPU performance. The cortex x-1's will not go past 2.4ghz. Where'd the other ~400mhz go? And all 4 A55's are mostly static at 1800mhz when not loaded. They won't throttle down? Hopefully they do when screen is off....lol?
Just placed my order and can't wait for all the dev, for this device. Been rocking the P3XL for a few years and when I saw the redesign of the 6 I knew I needed to have it