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I was used to having Lte and being able to be on a call and use Internet. I thought all high end phones were capable of it so now I'm kinda annoyed this phone can't. Is 5.0 supposed to fix this
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Your two options are here:
1. Now with root, there's possibility to unlocking bootloader. With unlocked bootloader, you can do custom rom. With custom rom, that's where you can freely do the options of anything whoever desires to do what, I'm guessing.
2. Continue to wait for lollipop from Verizon. Really stupid that T-Mobile has confirmed two lollipop updates but Verizon is no news.
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Sign up for a Google voice number and use Google hangouts dialer which works on a data connection or WiFi.
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I use it at home since my cellular service is weak. When someone calls my cell it forwards to my Google voice # after a few rings through my wifi on my phone, tablet, pc or any other device that works with GV.
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1. Now with root, there's possibility to unlocking bootloader.
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Being able to root does not mean you can unlock the bootloader. The bootloader on this variant is locked and cannot be unlocked.
Oh I know that. Eventually though, this will be unlocked. Whenever someone is able to get the unlock keys from Sony.
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Oh I know that. Eventually though, this will be unlocked. Whenever someone is able to get the unlock keys from Sony.
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I do not think so. No Sony phone has had an unofficial bootloader unlock since the Xperia Neo, released in 2011 (iirc) as no dev is working on an unofficial unlock because Sony allows people to unlock on some devices. Why try and unlock the caged, barred, alarmed window when they give you the key to the front door?
It is a very smart move from Sony as all the incentive to find an unofficial unlock is gone. I am not saying it wont happen, but going off past experience its not just that it is very difficult, its just that no one is even trying....
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Your two options are here:
1. Now with root, there's possibility to unlocking bootloader. With unlocked bootloader, you can do custom rom. With custom rom, that's where you can freely do the options of anything whoever desires to do what, I'm guessing.
2. Continue to wait for lollipop from Verizon. Really stupid that T-Mobile has confirmed two lollipop updates but Verizon is no news.
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No VoLTE until VZW flips the switch for this devices. Even a Lollipop update is no guarantee. The HTC One M8 is on 5.0.1 and still has no VoLTE, even those that are S-Off, unlocked, rooted, ROM'd yadda yadda
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I do not think so. No Sony phone has had an unofficial bootloader unlock since the Xperia Neo, released in 2011 (iirc) as no dev is working on an unofficial unlock because Sony allows people to unlock on some devices. Why try and unlock the caged, barred, alarmed window when they give you the key to the front door?
It is a very smart move from Sony as all the incentive to find an unofficial unlock is gone. I am not saying it wont happen, but going off past experience its not just that it is very difficult, its just that no one is even trying....
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The Sony Xperia Z3 is officially unlocked with the only problem that you'll lose the DRM keys that gives the camera special qualities. And we've achieved root so far, so it's not that no one is trying, it's just security is much tighter.
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No VoLTE until VZW flips the switch for this devices. Even a Lollipop update is no guarantee. The HTC One M8 is on 5.0.1 and still has no VoLTE, even those that are S-Off, unlocked, rooted, ROM'd yadda yadda
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Erhm, I'd like to know where you know the HTC One M8 is lacking simultaneous voice and data. My brother has one rooted, unlocked, and all that and he can make calls while browsing. So wherever you heard that from... better check your resources again.
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The Sony Xperia Z3 is officially unlocked with the only problem that you'll lose the DRM keys that gives the camera special qualities. And we've achieved root so far, so it's not that no one is trying, it's just security is much tighter.
Erhm, I'd like to know where you know the HTC One M8 is lacking simultaneous voice and data. My brother has one rooted, unlocked, and all that and he can make calls while browsing. So wherever you heard that from... better check your resources again.
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I think the M8 always had simultaneous voice and data, that's not VoLTE, I should ,have called it "Enhanced 4G" although it's part of it for the newest devices. The simultaneous voice/data will be part of the "enhanced 4G" for the newest devices, and, AFAIK, there's no way to hack around that. The other parts of Enhanced 4G, i.e. HD calling and video calling are still not available for the M8, even for those that have been able to get the toggle activated.
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I think the M8 always had simultaneous voice and data, that's not VoLTE, I should ,have called it "Enhanced 4G" although it's part of it for the newest devices. The simultaneous voice/data will be part of the "enhanced 4G" for the newest devices, and, AFAIK, there's no way to hack around that. The other parts of Enhanced 4G, i.e. HD calling and video calling are still not available for the M8, even for those that have been able to get the toggle activated.
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Lol, the only part I'm still really concerned about is the basic necessity function for simultaneous voice and data. I don't see what significant differences enhanced calling or whatnot will make as long as either person on each other's line can hear perfectly while also being able to browse data that can be important for the moment. It's basically the definition of a "smartphone".
This really makes me rethink my purchase, today I needed to review an email while on the phone with a designer and could not
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This really makes me rethink my purchase, today I needed to review an email while on the phone with a designer and could not
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Your best chance of making up for that is to be connected to wi-fi while on a call.
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The Sony Xperia Z3 is officially unlocked with the only problem that you'll lose the DRM keys that gives the camera special qualities. And we've achieved root so far, so it's not that no one is trying, it's just security is much tighter.
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I know. All xperia Phones since 2012 have been able to be officially unlocked unless the carrier has blocked it. For the Z3 v it has been blocked. Also, the difference between gaining root & and unlocking the boot is massive, Do not expect to get unlocked boots on the Z3 v, There has not even been a working kexec on locked devices for a few years.
Anyway, apologies for the hijack of the thread. My post are for info only
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Lol, the only part I'm still really concerned about is the basic necessity function for simultaneous voice and data. I don't see what significant differences enhanced calling or whatnot will make as long as either person on each other's line can hear perfectly while also being able to browse data that can be important for the moment. It's basically the definition of a "smartphone".
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The m8 had voice and data to start with, which means hardware and drivers to support it. Our phone, unfortunately, dies not have that capability and will only be able to do voice and data when volte is implemented. Custom Rom can be installed with locked bootloaders with the appropriate recovery, but not kernel
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I know. All xperia Phones since 2012 have been able to be officially unlocked unless the carrier has blocked it. For the Z3 v it has been blocked. Also, the difference between gaining root & and unlocking the boot is massive, Do not expect to get unlocked boots on the Z3 v, There has not even been a working kexec on locked devices for a few years.
Anyway, apologies for the hijack of the thread. My post are for info only
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It definitely gives the Z3v an unlock code when you select the Z3 and type in your ESN here: http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
I just think we are missing something within our fastboot to put it to use.
Regarding the DRM keys, there is a program in the Z3 section that allows you to back them up and restore them after unlocking the bootloader. So if we can utilize the unlock code we don't have to worry about sacrificing the keys.
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It definitely gives the Z3v an unlock code when you select the Z3 and type in your ESN here: http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
I just think we are missing something within our fastboot to put it to use.
Regarding the DRM keys, there is a program in the Z3 section that allows you to back them up and restore them after unlocking the bootloader. So if we can utilize the unlock code we don't have to worry about sacrificing the keys.
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That site will always give you a code, that's not the issue. the carrier has it blocked, and no one has bypassed 'Bootloader unlock allowed: No' in about 3 years, and no one is working on it, because if any serious Dev wants an unlocked boot, they just go and buy a device where it is allowed.
Also, DRM restore does not restore the actual keys, once gone they are gone forever. What that process does is to return SOME of the functions that relied on the keys, and not to 100% working like before unlocking. The trick there is that SOME of the functions just checked if DRM keys were present as opposed to actually checking what they were. Hence spoofing some keys enabled SOME functions to partially work again. Better than nothing but not like having the actual keys there. Once Sony knows this they will tighten up the security. Expect this not to work on future devices.
Again, apologies for this, but this has been discussed ad nauseum for 2 years in various xperia devices and nothing has changed yet...
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That site will always give you a code, that's not the issue. the carrier has it blocked, and no one has bypassed 'Bootloader unlock allowed: No' in about 3 years, and no one is working on it, because if any serious Dev wants an unlocked boot, they just go and buy a device where it is allowed.
Also, DRM restore does not restore the actual keys, once gone they are gone forever. What that process does is to return SOME of the functions that relied on the keys, and not to 100% working like before unlocking. The trick there is that SOME of the functions just checked if DRM keys were present as opposed to actually checking what they were. Hence spoofing some keys enabled SOME functions to partially work again. Better than nothing but not like having the actual keys there. Once Sony knows this they will tighten up the security. Expect this not to work on future devices.
Again, apologies for this, but this has been discussed ad nauseum for 2 years in various xperia devices and nothing has changed yet...
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Thank you for clearing all of that up. This is my first Xperia device, so I'm still learning the ins and outs.
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Thank you for clearing all of that up. This is my first Xperia device, so I'm still learning the ins and outs.
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No worries Everyone has to learn about new devices.... I will be out of my depth I ever leave Sony.
Hello XDA community
A friend of mine with an android device has been hacked "by a phone call" has he said. The phone number of the believed "attacker" does not exist anymore and seemed to have existed only a few hours. This arose some questions about what I believed. Can some of you tell me what you think about the questions below. If you have some pointers to help me know more about these topics, I would appreciate. If I missed topics on xda forum regarding these questions, please forgive me, and points me to the topic I missed.
1st - Has he really been hacked by a phone call ? In my understanding, as long as you don't activate 3G/4G, your android is just a phone, and thus can just handle duplex audio data. What about exploit targeting the phone application that, with just GSM protocol or payload corruption, can hack your phone ? I thougt this fairly unprobable. Now if 3G/4G is activated, is phone is just a machine on the network, with some ports open, so he is vulnerable. What about exploit that could run over 3G if you accept a call ? Can a vulnerable phone apk enable a hacking of the phone receiving a phone call ?
2nd - How did the attacker procured a phone number without giving its ID papers in france ? Buying a sim card normaly require a valid ID paper like a passport. Is it always the case ? Is it possible to have a mobile phone number without buying a SIM card ?
3rd - Given the recent informations I google on internet, I guess he has been hacked by Stagefright.
As he rooted his device, I would avised him reset to factory device. As a paranoid, I would say this is unsufficient : if his phone is compromised, the attacker could have compromised his recovery too. So I would better say him : flash bootloader if possible, and flash a stock rom then boot into recovery. And after, rune an apk to test if vulnerable to stagefright and a patch to correct.
Than you for your answers
Hi
First I'm sorry that this happened to your friend.
1. In Switzerland, many people was also hacked by a phone call. But he/she only stoled user data (Photos/Music/Videos/etc.) If they had Mobile Data enabled, I don't know.
2. Some country's (like Portugal) hasn't number that are registered with the name of the person. You can simply go to a mobileshop and ask for a SIM-Card and they simply sell it to you (I know it's a really bad thing )
Good luck to your friend restore his phone
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Hi
First I'm sorry that this happened to your friend.
1. In Switzerland, many people was also hacked by a phone call. But he/she only stoled user data (Photos/Music/Videos/etc.) If they had Mobile Data enabled, I don't know.
2. Some country's (like Portugal) hasn't number that are registered with the name of the person. You can simply go to a mobileshop and ask for a SIM-Card and they simply sell it to you (I know it's a really bad thing )
Good luck to your friend restore his phone
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Hello AnDrOiiiD_YT
Can you communicate some sources about the hacking of people via phone call in switzerland (like neswpaper article, tech article ?)
Thank you
AnDrOiiiD_YT said:
Hi
First I'm sorry that this happened to your friend.
2. Some country's (like Portugal) hasn't number that are registered with the name of the person. You can simply go to a mobileshop and ask for a SIM-Card and they simply sell it to you (I know it's a really bad thing )
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You can walk into just about any side store km the states and buy a phone and reg it with any name you want. You would be amazed at the names people use for accounts. Some just leave it blank.
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You can walk into just about any side store km the states and buy a phone and reg it with any name you want. You would be amazed at the names people use for accounts. Some just leave it blank.
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This can be the case in US. In France on shall provide an ID card to legally buy a SIM card.
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This can be the case in US. In France on shall provide an ID card to legally buy a SIM card.
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Interesting. Im sure you could find away around it if you try hard enough. Which is what he most likely did.
Now When you say someone hacked his phone, how does he know he was hacked? What are the issues that made him think so?
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Interesting. Im sure you could find away around it if you try hard enough. Which is what he most likely did.
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Yes, probably. I saw a video from a tech university with the POC on how to cheaply buy phone numbers to issue SMS campaign, I don't know if this is still applicable.
Now When you say someone hacked his phone, how does he know he was hacked? What are the issues that made him think so?
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I had a short conversation with him, and he described applications installing alone, sms sent from his phone... Since I still could not get my hands on the device itself, I agree there is still a doubt on that point. He just remembered a strange phone call some weeks ago, but I am not convinced by the phone call that hacked his phone.
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Yes, probably. I saw a video from a tech university with the POC on how to cheaply buy phone numbers to issue SMS campaign, I don't know if this is still applicable.
I had a short conversation with him, and he described applications installing alone, sms sent from his phone... Since I still could not get my hands on the device itself, I agree there is still a doubt on that point. He just remembered a strange phone call some weeks ago, but I am not convinced by the phone call that hacked his phone.
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To be honest I am as well. Things that he is talking about could not have been set up during a phone call. Unless the person gave enough info that the offender could have hacked into the account. This would allow install of apps. I have a feeling it is something else. A logcat will be able to help determine what is the issue but the best bet is a full wipe, flash and some password changes.
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. A logcat will be able to help determine what is the issue but the best bet is a full wipe, flash and some password changes.
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A agree with both
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Hello XDA community
A friend of mine with an android device has been hacked "by a phone call" has he said. The phone number of the believed "attacker" does not exist anymore and seemed to have existed only a few hours. This arose some questions about what I believed. Can some of you tell me what you think about the questions below. If you have some pointers to help me know more about these topics, I would appreciate. If I missed topics on xda forum regarding these questions, please forgive me, and points me to the topic I missed.
1st - Has he really been hacked by a phone call ? In my understanding, as long as you don't activate 3G/4G, your android is just a phone, and thus can just handle duplex audio data. What about exploit targeting the phone application that, with just GSM protocol or payload corruption, can hack your phone ? I thougt this fairly unprobable. Now if 3G/4G is activated, is phone is just a machine on the network, with some ports open, so he is vulnerable. What about exploit that could run over 3G if you accept a call ? Can a vulnerable phone apk enable a hacking of the phone receiving a phone call ?
2nd - How did the attacker procured a phone number without giving its ID papers in france ? Buying a sim card normaly require a valid ID paper like a passport. Is it always the case ? Is it possible to have a mobile phone number without buying a SIM card ?
3rd - Given the recent informations I google on internet, I guess he has been hacked by Stagefright.
As he rooted his device, I would avised him reset to factory device. As a paranoid, I would say this is unsufficient : if his phone is compromised, the attacker could have compromised his recovery too. So I would better say him : flash bootloader if possible, and flash a stock rom then boot into recovery. And after, rune an apk to test if vulnerable to stagefright and a patch to correct.
Than you for your answers
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It's not important that the attacker used a real number, he/she could also use something like spoof card.... About your friends problem is he sure that he have got hacked ?
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It's not important that the attacker used a real number, he/she could also use something like spoof card.... About your friends problem is he sure that he have got hacked ?
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No we are not sure ATM. I try to reach him, with no success. What could confirm a hack or not (by lets say stagefright ?)
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No we are not sure ATM. I try to reach him, with no success. What could confirm a hack or not (by lets say stagefright ?)
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I don't think there's a way to detect a call stagefright....
Stagefright can't be activated by a call. The phones doesn't access the vulnerable files.
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Hello AnDrOiiiD_YT
Can you communicate some sources about the hacking of people via phone call in switzerland (like neswpaper article, tech article ?)
Thank you
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I didn't found anything, but I think your friend had an app (virus) that needed root access, he granted root access and the app removed those files...
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Stagefright can't be activated by a call. The phones doesn't access the vulnerable files.
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I agree. I think the call has nothing to do with the symptoms he observes... I did not took time to POC stagefright at home, but from what I read it can be done silently via MMS. It's one hypothessis. ATM there ar many. Still don't have news from him. I'll just wait now.
Thank you all for your answers.
If he really thinks it's a stagefright then tell him to verify it, there's an app that can do it
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If he really thinks it's a stagefright then tell him to verify it, there's an app that can do it
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The app can verify if he is vulnerable. Can it verify if he has really been hacked ?
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The app can verify if he is vulnerable. Can it verify if he has really been hacked ?
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Being vulnerable can be a big proof itself that he most probably have been hacked
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Being vulnerable can be a big proof itself that he most probably have been hacked
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In my experience with Nessus or Nexpose, a vulnerability scan cannot be assessed as a POC. Not being vulnerable certainly prove your immnunity, but the opposite is not true.
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In my experience with Nessus or Nexpose, a vulnerability scan cannot be assessed as a POC. Not being vulnerable certainly prove your immnunity, but the opposite is not true.
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I didn't said that being vulnerable surely means he have got hacked..... But he can be considering the symptoms
I have an LGUS992. Thanks
Not yet.
Why not? Does lg not let you unlock the bootloader?
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Why not? Does lg not let you unlock the bootloader?
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It was repeated all over in the G5 section, the only unlockable version is the european H850.
Also the H830 has root and twrp, but these are the only two models.
Thats dumb.
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One has to realize that the developers who courageously "get root" for us do so on their own time. Not only that, on their own dime as well. In the trial and error process of unlocking the bootloader the risk of nuking their devices is high (and quite a few developers have nuked this model and others). And they go and buy another, so they can continue development. This gets very expensive.
And most importantly, with devices like the G5 - it takes time.
So while it's easy for one to respond "that's dumb", etc - I guess the above points are completely disregarded. Or perhaps not even known in the first place.
Most importantly, we are at the will of the developers. If they feel they are being disrespected, amongst other things - it would not be unreasonable for them to halt development. Please keep all of this in mind.
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One has to realize that the developers who courageously "get root" for us do so on their own time. Not only that, on their own dime as well. In the trial and error process of unlocking the bootloader the risk of nuking their devices is high (and quite a few developers have nuked this model and others). And they go and buy another, so they can continue development. This gets very expensive.
And most importantly, with devices like the G5 - it takes time.
So while it's easy for one to respond "that's dumb", etc - I guess the above points are completely disregarded. Or perhaps not even known in the first place.
Most importantly, we are at the will of the developers. If they feel they are being disrespected, amongst other things - it would not be unreasonable for them to halt development. Please keep all of this in mind.
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I understand all that they go through and are doing and i appreciate it, i meant no disrespect. Im just saying its dumb that lg doesnt let you unlock the bootloader. I came from a moto x 2014 and all i had to do to unlock the bootloader was sign up on a website and do some other stuff.
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Its the most talked about in the social media in the few years ago!
At this point, the h830 and h850 are the only models that can be rooted due to being able to unlock the bootloader.
Hey guys, just one question for those of you who already have root. Didn't want to open a new thread.
When using Nova launcher, are you able to unlock the phone without it requesting a pin to be entered?
I really need this answer, going nuts with a stock launcher
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Hey guys, just one question for those of you who already have root. Didn't want to open a new thread.
When using Nova launcher, are you able to unlock the phone without it requesting a pin to be entered?
I really need this answer, going nuts with a stock launcher
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Under Lockscreen I selected "None" and never have to enter a pin - I do use Nova, but I'd assume it would be the same with any launcher? Unless I'm completely missing the point here :laugh:
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Under Lockscreen I selected "None" and never have to enter a pin - I do use Nova, but I'd assume it would be the same with any launcher? Unless I'm completely missing the point here [emoji23]
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First of all thank you for responding
Well the point is, with LG stock launcher you can set up pin protection but it works in conjunction with the fingerprint reader meaning that when you unlock the screen with fingerprint phone is not asking for a pin entry. You are however able to double tap to power the screen and then enter pin to unlock if for some reason you do not want to use reader.
Let me ask again Are you able to do mentioned above with Nova and root? Can you maybe test for me
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First of all thank you for responding
Well the point is, with LG stock launcher you can set up pin protection but it works in conjunction with the fingerprint reader meaning that when you unlock the screen with fingerprint phone is not asking for a pin entry. You are however able to double tap to power the screen and then enter pin to unlock if for some reason you do not want to use reader.
Let me ask again Are you able to do mentioned above with Nova and root? Can you maybe test for me
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Good grief, what a pain to set that up :laugh:
Sometimes I can unlock it by just touching it with the finger I set up, but other times I get "Unable to use fingerprint" and have to use the pin. I'd say it's about 50/50
No idea why it sometimes works and other times doesn't, but I'm removing the lock again now ... way too much hassle
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Good grief, what a pain to set that up [emoji23]
Sometimes I can unlock it by just touching it with the finger I set up, but other times I get "Unable to use fingerprint" and have to use the pin. I'd say it's about 50/50
No idea why it sometimes works and other times doesn't, but I'm removing the lock again now ... way too much hassle
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Haha, thank you again for a quick response [emoji2] It is a bit of a pain.
I guess I'll just root and see how it goes.
Have a nice day, cheers mate!
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If I root my device will I stop receiving OTA updates?
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Haha, thank you again for a quick response [emoji2] It is a bit of a pain.
I guess I'll just root and see how it goes.
Have a nice day, cheers mate!
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Hey man, I'm also using Nova Launcher on my LG G5 H860 (no root tho - obviously - woe is me!), and I use the finger print scanner AND a pattern. I think LG suspect that the fingerprint scanner alone is not enough security, so they make us use a pattern or pin on top of that. At least that's my guess since I was immediately prompted to add the pin, password or pattern after setting up my fingerprints. Also, upon rebooting, EVERY TIME I have to put in my pattern. The fingerprint alone is not enough to gain access.
I'm guessing it would depend on the ROM you use, not particularly the launcher. But let us know how you go... Have you rooted yet?
Nice avatar BTW. \m/
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Hey man, I'm also using Nova Launcher on my LG G5 H860 (no root tho - obviously - woe is me!), and I use the finger print scanner AND a pattern. I think LG suspect that the fingerprint scanner alone is not enough security, so they make us use a pattern or pin on top of that. At least that's my guess since I was immediately prompted to add the pin, password or pattern after setting up my fingerprints. Also, upon rebooting, EVERY TIME I have to put in my pattern. The fingerprint alone is not enough to gain access.
I'm guessing it would depend on the ROM you use, not particularly the launcher. But let us know how you go... Have you rooted yet?
Nice avatar BTW. \m/
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It's actually a backup option I think, in case when fingerprint reader fails. Makes sense
System is not letting other apps take control over the phone even though they are listed as device administrators. It's a new security measure introduced with MM.
Of course everything changes when you have root privileges
I've rooted the phone yesterday. Nova can now unlock the phone with just a fingerprint. Also installed the Viper audio mod and deleted a few system apps.
Right now I'm investigating how to prolong the super brightness mode so it can last longer than lousy two minutes
Glad to hear someone appreciates the sound of perseverance \m/ \m/
Keep rocking brother
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aca89 said:
It's actually a backup option I think, in case when fingerprint reader fails. Makes sense
System is not letting other apps take control over the phone even though they are listed as device administrators. It's a new security measure introduced with MM.
Of course everything changes when you have root privileges
I've rooted the phone yesterday. Nova can now unlock the phone with just a fingerprint. Also installed the Viper audio mod and deleted a few system apps.
Right now I'm investigating how to prolong the super brightness mode so it can last longer than lousy two minutes
Glad to hear someone appreciates the sound of perseverance \m/ \m/
Keep rocking brother
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The PIN is, just as you said, a backup security measure. If you're rooted you can go and download a fingerprint add on through Xposed.. that means Only your fingerprint is needed to unlock your device.
"Fingerprint Enabler" ?
aca89 said:
It's actually a backup option I think, in case when fingerprint reader fails. Makes sense
System is not letting other apps take control over the phone even though they are listed as device administrators. It's a new security measure introduced with MM.
Of course everything changes when you have root privileges
I've rooted the phone yesterday. Nova can now unlock the phone with just a fingerprint. Also installed the Viper audio mod and deleted a few system apps.
Right now I'm investigating how to prolong the super brightness mode so it can last longer than lousy two minutes
Glad to hear someone appreciates the sound of perseverance \m/ \m/
Keep rocking brother
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Don't have G5 so I can't test or even know if what I'm saying is correct, but I was looking through the G5 git tree and saw the super brightness mode seems to be called HL_MODE standing for LGE_HIGH_LUMINANCE_MODE, there's referenced to it in the code, you could probably edit it there then compile and it will most likely work, however it seems it's also with references to the kernel so you probably gonna have to edit both the kernel and ROM simultaneously to make things easier...
raynan said:
its the most talked about in the social media in the few years ago!
At this point, the h830 and h850 are the only models that can be rooted due to being able to unlock the bootloader.
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Lmaooo
Moto G Play (2021)
Stock Firmware
Codename: guamna
Model: XT-2093
Rescue and Smart Assistant (LMSA)
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/guamna/official/
https://t.me/s/MotoUpdatesTracker?q=#guamna
[Index] Motorola Stock Firmware
[Guide] Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola devices
Guide: Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola Devices If your device has its own section please post in that section. You can ping me with @sd_shadow MediaTek or Qualcomm Chip? Do I have a MediaTek Device? see post #26 Info: If you have a MediaTek...
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This looks to be it:
lolinet mirrors - firmware, software, iso etc.
lolinet mirrors - powered by h5ai
mirrors.lolinet.com
Edit: I can also report that bootloader unlocking and rooting with Magisk works without issue.
fddm said:
I can also report that bootloader unlocking and rooting with Magisk works without issue.
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Which one? My local T-Mo is offering this or a Moto E 2020. This one's winning. It'll be nice if it can be rooted. Just asking cause T-Mo hasn't been root/bootloader unlock friendly with most of its phones. I saw the E guide.
Omizuke said:
Which one? My local T-Mo is offering this or a Moto E 2020. This one's winning. It'll be nice if it can be rooted. Just asking cause T-Mo hasn't been root/bootloader unlock friendly with most of its phones. I saw the E guide.
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Yes, this was with a T-Mobile phone. You unlock the bootloader, take boot.img from the lolinet link, patch it in Magisk, and flash through fastboot.
fddm said:
Yes, this was with a T-Mobile phone. You unlock the bootloader, take boot.img from the lolinet link, patch it in Magisk, and flash through fastboot.
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Thanks so much for the info. How's the phone so far. My T-Mo has the promo but didn't actually had the phone >.>
They instead offered me a LG K51, not even close to the same phone. Wondering if its worth traveling around to other stores.
Omizuke said:
Thanks so much for the info. How's the phone so far. My T-Mo has the promo but didn't actually had the phone >.>
They instead offered me a LG K51, not even close to the same phone. Wondering if its worth traveling around to other stores.
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Depends on the features your want, but I really don't have any complaints for this device. I have a friend that prefers devices with touch sensor swiping and dt2w, so he doesn't care much for these Motorola phones.
I prefer phones with good developer support and stock Android. Makes Moto phones an excellent fit for me. If you intend to run custom roms LG might be a poor choice as you generally loose features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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Depends on the features your want, but I really don't have any complaints for this device. I have a friend that prefers devices with touch sensor swiping and dt2w, so he doesn't care much for these Motorola phones.
I prefer phones with good developer support and stock Android. Makes Moto phones an excellent fit for me. If you intend to run custom roms LG might be a poor choice as you generally loose features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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Think is I don't actually need a phone, I have a V20 and 40. But I do need internet for next month, for which I'll just get a simply prepaid for that month. (My T-Mo plan is a grandfathered from 10+ years ago that's only $20, doesn't include high speed internet) And I saw a promo that if you buy in advance 3 months you can get the G Play or a E 2020. And figured, need only 1 but 3 months of unlimited internet is also good, specially if I get an okay phone. But if I can't root it. It could be a $1k flagship and I wouldn't care. And Moto's near stock looks very apealing. V40 has Lineage but as you said would lose VoLTE.
Moto looks like phones that would allow me to tinker, I miss my old HTCs. There was so much ROM variety and customization. Now it's either OEM optimized, or all the CFW look the same, aesthetically speaking, they look so bland. Man now that our phones are more powerfull I'd like to see a Sense 3-4. Loved that layout, as heavy as it was.
Sorry went on rant there. Anyway, I'd just like if the phone can be thinker with. And can handle some light gaming like FFBE and the text be readable.
Omizuke said:
Think is I don't actually need a phone, I have a V20 and 40. But I do need internet for next month, for which I'll just get a simply prepaid for that month.
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Motorola phones are perfect for you then, I use them exclusively when tethering to a routers. Always easy to root. No dun restrictions in apn settings. All carrier spyware is in the product partition, easy to suss out and disable. Can't beat it.
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No dun restrictions in apn settings. All carrier spyware is in the product partition, easy to suss out and disable. Can't beat it.
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Damn I might end up setting for the E if I can't find the G play.
Confirming you can flash the RETUS (retail US) rom on the tmob variant and it works wit minimal bloat (facebook and the stock moto crap)
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Confirming you can flash the RETUS (retail US) rom on the tmob variant and it works wit minimal bloat (facebook and the stock moto crap)
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Sweet! Thanks for the info, got mine the 8. Gonna wait the week and then start thinkiering with it.
And all bands and VoLTE work well? For my V40 I am limited what to flash if I don't wanna lose B71.
Still gotta deal with Carrier Device Manager, MCM Client and Mobile Installer? I disabled as much as I could without root, remove all permisions from those and "Digital Wllbeing" and McAfee and they're still pestering me. Specially MCM on the ntifications. Can't wait to root and get rid of everything.
But if crosflashing to RETUS can get rid of some of those I'll do that first.
(Well After I SIM unlock the phone, don't wanna have to deal with returning to stock for that)
Omizuke said:
But if crosflashing to RETUS can get rid of some of those I'll do that first.
(Well After I SIM unlock the phone, don't wanna have to deal with returning to stock for that)
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It's generally fine to (entirely) cross flash Moto phones. Only difference between carrier and RETUS is the product partition afaik, so I don't bother personally. I just use a Magisk module to clear out the nondisable folder and I can then disable whatever I don't want.
How to unlock bootloader . Oem unlock is greyed out . Can't find anything on this device to help unlock and root
kjjay said:
How to unlock bootloader . Oem unlock is greyed out . Can't find anything on this device to help unlock and root
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Cannot unlock the bootloader if allow oem unlock is greyed out, sometimes it's a timed lock.
Connect to wifi/lte and it may be allowed in a few days.
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Cannot unlock the bootloader if allow oem unlock is greyed out, sometimes it's a timed lock.
Connect to wifi/lte and it may be allowed in a few days.
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Wow factory reset and oem worked ..now imma attempt to unlock bootloader and root
sd_shadow said:
Moto G Play (2021)
Stock Firmware
Codename: guamna
Model: XT-2093
Rescue and Smart Assistant (LMSA)
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/guamna/official/
https://t.me/s/MotoUpdatesTracker?q=#guamna
[Index] Motorola Stock Firmware
[Guide] Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola devices
Guide: Using Fastboot.exe with Motorola Devices If your device has its own section please post in that section. You can ping me with @sd_shadow MediaTek or Qualcomm Chip? Do I have a MediaTek Device? see post #26 Info: If you have a MediaTek...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Is there a way to downgrade it to android 9?? Because alot is unsupported by android 10
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Is there a way to downgrade it to android 9?? Because alot is unsupported by android 10
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No, it shipped with 10, there isn't any firmware to downgrade to.
I'm guessing 11 isn't very far away.
fddm said:
Depends on the features your want, but I really don't have any complaints for this device. I have a friend that prefers devices with touch sensor swiping and dt2w, so he doesn't care much for these Motorola phones.
I prefer phones with good developer support and stock Android. Makes Moto phones an excellent fit for me. If you intend to run custom roms LG might be a poor choice as you generally loose features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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I had swipe on fingerprint on g7power, worked good for pulling down notifications menu
tbirdguy said:
I had swipe on fingerprint on g7power, worked good for pulling down notifications menu
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Oh the play does have swipe sensore for notifications. And although it doesn't have dt2w I just tap it to the side, any slide movement wake the screen and you can the swipe to unlock. It does wake up for the littlest for movements so it can get a bit annoying.
cant find much info on the us version root process
United States version, doesn't matter what carrier. Cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted at this time. There is no OEM unlock toggle that will appear after 7days use.
butchieboy said:
United States version, doesn't matter what carrier. Cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted at this time. There is no OEM unlock toggle that will appear after 7days use.
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That's what I thought, don't know why samsung support rep I spoke to kept insisting that the US version is OEM unlockable. feel like he just wanted to sell me the phone.
Reator4 said:
That's what I thought, don't know why samsung support rep I spoke to kept insisting that the US version is OEM unlockable. feel like he just wanted to sell me the phone.
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He probably didn't know what the hell he's talking about.
Does that mean us ver unlocked from best buy still can't be bootloader unlocked?
Jed!Master said:
Does that mean us ver unlocked from best buy still can't be bootloader unlocked?
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No US or Canadian version can be bootloader unlocked. Period. It has been the case for many years now. It will never change.
I have similar questions, first is worth the upgrade price? Cause I'm with the s22 ultra and the only thing that I was able to get unlocked is the network by going to t-mobile on Twitter and asking saying that I was going on vacation and would like to use a local sim card due to in Brazil i.e they use other sim card but a network unlock is not the same as a bootloader U/L
Was about to say that
Reator4 said:
That's what I thought, don't know why samsung support rep I spoke to kept insisting that the US version is OEM unlockable. feel like he just wanted to sell me the phone.
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they probably just focused on the word unlocked and said yes, your phone can be unlocked.
bresk said:
I have similar questions, first is worth the upgrade price? Cause I'm with the s22 ultra and the only thing that I was able to get unlocked is the network by going to t-mobile on Twitter and asking saying that I was going on vacation and would like to use a local sim card due to in Brazil i.e they use other sim card but a network unlock is not the same as a bootloader U/L
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coming from an S22U myself, if you trade in your S22U I would say it's worth it. If you are just going to buy it out right with no trade in, I would say not worth it. S23U is a 20-30% upgraded S22U in my opinion. S23U is a great device but don't expect to be blown away. At the end of the day your S22U will do most of the same things that the S23U will do.
Thanks, the reason I've asked is because s22 ultra in the USA is not possible to gain root due to the bootloader not being able to unlock
butchieboy said:
United States version, doesn't matter what carrier. Cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted at this time. There is no OEM unlock toggle that will appear after 7days use.
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chimera...
This applies to the s22 ultra USA version as well? I want to unlock the bootloader on my s22 ultra since it's not much difference on the s23 witch I was holding on without no modifications to avoid problems and ended up with a void warranty etc...
domperidane said:
chimera...
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I bought Chimera, and it did not work.
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chimera...
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they put that for the international version they always do that never specific on the model lol I know with a combo file you could gain root but then that combo file would break stuff and was just no point to use that combo file but to remove frp, if you know what I mean if not then that's for me to know
Jed!Master said:
they put that for the international version they always do that never specific on the model lol I know with a combo file you could gain root but then that combo file would break stuff and was just no point to use that combo file but to remove frp, if you know what I mean if not then that's for me to know
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break what for example , i dont really want to root, i just want to debloat ,remove apps i dont use ,i have tried some apps like greniffy,island,nevolta etc , shizuku but im always stuck trying to setup like they ask....but i might be doing something wrong because i use the terminal ' adb is sucesfull integrated,still not able to get shizuku working or expand the Mainland feature of the island to keep watching for background apps...if i can get a deblooter ill be happy
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break what for example , i dont really want to root, i just want to debloat ,remove apps i dont use ,i have tried some apps like greniffy,island,nevolta etc , shizuku but im always stuck trying to setup like they ask....but i might be doing something wrong because i use the terminal ' adb is sucesfull integrated,still not able to get shizuku working or expand the Mainland feature of the island to keep watching for background apps...if i can get a deblooter ill be happy
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ADB AppControl is a working debloater tool. Used it to uninstall YouTube the other day so I could replace it with ReVanced.
[TOOL] ADB AppControl 1.8.0 🚀 Ultimate App Manager & Debloat Tool + Tweaks
ADB AppControl 🚀 Root is not required. Works with any Android device. Can do almost everything you dreamed about with applications. ADB AppControl - the desktop program, that will allow you to easily manage applications on your android device...
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bresk said:
break what for example , i dont really want to root, i just want to debloat ,remove apps i dont use ,i have tried some apps like greniffy,island,nevolta etc , shizuku but im always stuck trying to setup like they ask....but i might be doing something wrong because i use the terminal ' adb is sucesfull integrated,still not able to get shizuku working or expand the Mainland feature of the island to keep watching for background apps...if i can get a deblooter ill be happy
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thanks man
thanks a lot, im going to buy you a coffe when i wakeup ok? i cant barely keep my eyes open, not even Adderall is keeping me awake lol