Hello xda community,
I recently bought an used Acer R13 chromebook which is powered by the MediaTek MT8173 SoC.
This chip supportes hardware H265/HEVC decoding, but I am having no luck to get it to work with common media players, like VLC, MX Player, Kodi, etc. I am running the latest stock chrome OS version (97.0.4692.77 / linux 4.19 / 32-bit ).
I bought the laptop with the mindset that hardware acceleration would just run out of the box.
Does someone where know, if this a known issue? Or is there something I can do?
Maybe manually install an 3rd party android system? Update to a newer linux kernel?
Haven't seen anything on it here, but an older discussion on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/87hbwx
Your answer got me digging deeper and I found this great writeup about chromeOS vs. android shortcommings.
Things to be aware of when considering a Chrome OS tablet as an alternative to an Android tablet. - r/chromeos
View on Libreddit, an alternative private front-end to Reddit.
libredd.it
H265 decoding is just not supported by ChromeOS, probobly due to the royalty costs.
One solution is to use linux apps via the developer mode. But if the boot warings with beeping will be true on my official chromebook, I might just go linux all the way and ditch chromeOS. (Thinking Manjaro here)
This is such an surprise for me. This beeing my first chromeOS system I naivly thought chromeOS = android.
On my Chromebook Developer mode will beep if you don't hit Ctrl+D before one minute. Doesn't bother me then and I can't live without Developer being on.
galaxys said:
On my Chromebook Developer mode will beep if you don't hit Ctrl+D before one minute. Doesn't bother me then and I can't live without Developer being on.
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Is this during boot? I notice that I hardly turn my chromebook off. Like a smartphone really.
I had a lenovo notebook with an aftermarket wifi adapter for 5GHz. For that I needed an unofficial bios to get rid of the wifi whitelist that lenovo uses .The downside was stupid beeping on every bootup.
Do you notice any performance impact running developer mode? I wonder how much additional RAM gets used and if there is noticeable CPU usage.
neustadt said:
Is this during boot? I notice that I hardly turn my chromebook off. Like a smartphone really.
I had a lenovo notebook with an aftermarket wifi adapter for 5GHz. For that I needed an unofficial bios to get rid of the wifi whitelist that lenovo uses .The downside was stupid beeping on every bootup.
Do you notice any performance impact running developer mode? I wonder how much additional RAM gets used and if there is noticeable CPU usage.
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Yes only initial boot from being off. No performance impact and maybe it's little better for my usage...
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Hello Guys,
I have bought a Dell Latitude t02g Table. The specs looks great - Windows 7 Pro - 1.5ghz atom processor, 2 GB Ram, 64GB SSD.
I think the specs are great but its just too damn sluggish when i run facebook or any flash games on it. very unresponsive on normal browsing.
I think this tablet can be great on Google Android x86 platform but After doing a lot of research - I see that people have installed LUBUNTU on it or windows 8 on it and are in a compromised situation. Where Windows 8 has blue screens and etc and moving on Lubuntu, has limited the functionality of he hardware graphics and rotations.
So much money paid for a device that promises a lot and so much disappointment .
I just wish if we could have a forum for this device where the XDA Team can make something super for this device - maybe an android port over that fully works and makes teh tablet smooth like other tablets.
Do you think there is something already out there that has fixed the tablet and makes it shine like a star as advertised? or will there be further enhancements on this and i can wait for it?
Or should i just sell it off for literally peanuts and forget about it
Any help/ hints would be great.
Thanks
AJ
delldell latitude 10 st2
I also wanted to know if for the dell latitude 10 st2 there was solution?
Try the latest windows. That's what I did. To make good use out of it. I installed Kodi n hooked it up to my TV via HDMI worked well. N then sold after a few weeks. Let me know how it goes
There's a fork of android for x86 architecture (http://www.android-x86.org/ ). Some year or two ago I tried few of provided builds but with mixed success. The issues is that bundled drivers are either generic and performance is bad, or different builds have different modules working ( like WiFi but no sound or sound but no WiFi)
It's not that difficult to get two kernel .config files from two most "working" builds and merge them together and build a new kernel, but the process itself is very time consuming (you have to compare files option by option manually, automerge is not an option in this case)
Builds were tegav2, asus_laptop and eeepc
Looks like http://www.android-x86.org/ project moved quite far since that time so maybe you want to give it a try. It's rather brick-safe and you can always go back to Windows/Linux.
Speaking of which, right now my ST has Win10 installed, but performance is bad. I'm thinking of installing clean ubuntu (from Minimal CD) with i3 WM to get maximum out of that hardware. On other laptop with similar specs such setup looks very promising
Ok, So the big news is MWC(mobile world congress)Shanghai 2016 is going live after 2 weeks from now, '29 June-1 July' in Shanghai,China..
What do you really want to hear from Jide at the event, about RemixOs? Something big...??
Guess what,there'll be.
ROOT.....
Proprietary NVIDIA driver support.
or29544 said:
Proprietary NVIDIA driver support.
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Yes, something related to better hardware support (Cpu, gpu, sound, etc), speed optimization (maybe remix based on marshmallow), interface polishing, better mouse touch simulation, Ubuntu style installer support native Linux disk partitions and others, more languages (spanish!), etc.
Marshmallow.
However, we want Android N!
I had to say this, for the laughs, although it is true.
Marshmallow.
However, we want Android N!
I had to say this, for the laughs, although it is true.
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We'll have Android N - I am personally waiting for official Google support for desktops.
We will also have Android apps in Chrome OS - again, a great desktop operating system.
So at this point Remix OS is really heading towards redundancy but anyway - I would still like to switch my desktop to Android sooner
Definately legacy hardware support/compatability. While it's nice to see our newer machines fly, it would be nice to get some of our old working hardware running relatively well without the usual hour glass watching we get in standard desktop os's.
For all the developers on this board, what if you had...
a higher powered Mini
AOSP, let's say Marshmallow or better
all the dev tools you'd need to get to work
...what would you, could you dream to develop this computer to do?
TV box? Gaming console? Android PC? Smart home device?
Please share with us your brainstorm ideas on this. Have fun with it and don't think about what's already out on the market... think out of the box, reach for the stars, and all the other cliches you can think of. Please share in the comments below.
Thanks!
A combination of all the above!
Smart nuclear powered anti-starship laser guns.
Just kidding, possibly a wireless router or a media server.
well I like something like win 7 ultimate. with a htpc media center,good gaming and nice professional os with good look.
not the current flat look but something more 3d like seven was.
but I am sure you prefer a idea for your Android stuff...
so what about jide making intel cherry trail devices? those could be nice for TV box or computer? or good snapdragon with long term support?
tailslol said:
well I like something like win 7 ultimate. with a htpc media center,good gaming and nice professional os with good look.
not the current flat look but something more 3d like seven was.
but I am sure you prefer a idea for your Android stuff...
so what about jide making intel cherry trail devices? those could be nice for TV box or computer? or good snapdragon with long term support?
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Or MediaTek, but force them to give you updated kernel sources and release them to the public.
Just saying because MTK chips last longer, and perform better (except for GPU performance) than counterpart Snapdragon chips.
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Or MediaTek, but force them to give you updated kernel sources and release them to the public.
Just saying because MTK chips last longer, and perform better (except for GPU performance) than counterpart Snapdragon chips.
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not mediatek they hide their resources sometime. and absolutely not Allwinner their chip are ****s... Rockchip or amilogic S is OK in the worse case scenario...
NVIDIA tegra are pricey but good for all in ones.especialy with Google support behind.
Or you can cheat on the support by using same Chips as Android one phones, nexus. or pixel..so no source hiding.
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not mediatek they hide their resources sometime. and absolutely not Allwinner their chip are ****s... Rockchip or amilogic S is OK in the worse case scenario...
NVIDIA tegra are pricey but good for all in ones.especialy with Google support behind.
Or you can cheat on the support by using same Chips as Android one phones, nexus. or pixel..so no source hiding.
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Did you not see what I had witten about forcing MediaTek to release their kernel sources?
Rockchip also hides many of their kernel sources, and are a pain to work with, (I had to use an ancient computer from over a decade ago, and had to install Windows XP, since it wouldn't work with anything newer).
Allwinner are a solid choice, since they are much more open with their sources, and are much easier to work with, it's just that not many developers work with them, but those that do, testify to them being much easier to work with.
About Amlogic, I have no idea.
Nvidia, are really good, but are even worse than MediaTek and Rockchip at releasing kernel sources, so unless it's the same chipset as the Nexus 9, it needs to be out of the question.
But please no BIG.little processors, they are great on paper, however in the real world, while they deliver, they don't deliver even close to what they should, ending up being a waste of money, since the worth:cost ratio is much farther.
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Did you not see what I had witten about forcing MediaTek to release their kernel sources?
Rockchip also hides many of their kernel sources, and are a pain to work with, (I had to use an ancient computer from over a decade ago, and had to install Windows XP, since it wouldn't work with anything newer).
Allwinner are a solid choice, since they are much more open with their sources, and are much easier to work with, it's just that not many developers work with them, but those that do, testify to them being much easier to work with.
About Amlogic, I have no idea.
Nvidia, are really good, but are even worse than MediaTek and Rockchip at releasing kernel sources, so unless it's the same chipset as the Nexus 9, it needs to be out of the question.
But please no BIG.little processors, they are great on paper, however in the real world, while they deliver, they don't deliver even close to what they should, ending up being a waste of money, since the worth:cost ratio is much farther.
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the thing about big little... nowadays with the failure of TV boxes and the slow death of tablets most big company are targeting the phone market.
and big little is mostly for phones ...
but I think the only problem is not targeting the lower end or not using too old than 2 years chips and sometime it is just better to spend a lil more for higher support and better performances.
on Nvidia side almost all chips have been open sourced by Google long time ago.
the tegra x1 in pixel c the tegra 2 3 4 and k1 in nexus tablets... so yea....
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the thing about big little... nowadays with the failure of TV boxes and the slow death of tablets most big company are targeting the phone market.
and big little is mostly for phones ...
but I think the only problem is not targeting the lower end or not using too old than 2 years chips and sometime it is just better to spend a lil more for higher support and better performances.
on Nvidia side almost all chips have been open sourced by Google long time ago.
the tegra x1 in pixel c the tegra 2 3 4 and k1 in nexus tablets... so yea....
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Ah sorry, I had checked it.
And it looks like they have their own code repository now, so things have definitely changed.
RemixOS_Jason said:
For all the developers on this board, what if you had...
a higher powered Mini
AOSP, let's say Marshmallow or better
all the dev tools you'd need to get to work
...what would you, could you dream to develop this computer to do?
TV box? Gaming console? Android PC? Smart home device?
Please share with us your brainstorm ideas on this. Have fun with it and don't think about what's already out on the market... think out of the box, reach for the stars, and all the other cliches you can think of. Please share in the comments below.
Thanks!
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I would build my own version of Android!
Dual boot as much as possible!
Publish my Project ROC quicker
What about using the mini along with wireless display, and use them as a home security/automation hub? Allowing many apps and already existing "connected" devices like Philips HUE, WiFi Cameras, etc to connect and be configured for automation. Then assigning older android devices to pair and be set in various rooms, to be used as wifi motion detectors.
Well as a developer, I'd improve the way I interact with my devices as an user.
Chromecast and Android Home devices are great but they're not how the future should actually look. In my opinion Google is limiting hardware on those devices to keep prices low and make them impossible to run upcoming software, more powerful software.
Okay let's say we have an AIO device (similar to Android Home) but with a few sets of functionality baked in:
- Network attached Storage: Store all the things you want to share with the family (photos, music, movies...)
- Network attached Storage: Stream whatever is hosted in the box to the "cast enabled devices around the device"
- Network attached Storage: Synced folders between family devices per user request (similar to how resilio sync works)
- Network attached Storage: Remote access for downloads (you're out of home but you start a download that will be waiting for you when you arrive)
- Assistant: Always On Keyword detection
- Assistant: Customized context-aware commands per user inside the network (If John or his devices are not connected to the Wireless network or discoverable through BLE don't suggest content that he might like)
- Assistant: TV as a remote interface of the device with a dashboard, the device microphone as a IO device of the TV.
- Assistant: Device state awareness, notify when battery is low on x device.
BRAINSTORM -- What if Jide actually focused on getting the projects they currently have out working to perfection instead of coming out with new semi broken products?! Then, when everything worked as best as possible, Jide could come out with new stuff that makes the current goodness even better!!!! Wow, what a novel concept!
If i had it, (and if i can), I'll bring the android code and libs to windows,, it's just like WINE on Ubuntu, and isn't like the ancient emulator which is kill my usage
So,, yes... I'll open the play store just when i click it in my windows PC's, installing apk just in Program Files (Android) folder, using linux or android command in cmd (like bash actually) and getting a root access with just allow the UAC
So the whole idea of having a phone that can be put in a dock and used as a computer is really cool, but me and my friend came up with an idea to expand on that. Would it be possible to have both android and Linux on the phone and then have an app/desktop icon to switch operating systems? I know this can be done on other devices. My mate has a chrome book and installed Ubuntu on it. Just a keyboard shortcut will switch operating systems. So would it be possible to do the same thing just on an android device. Hardware wide, there shouldn't be any problems. His chrome book has a cpu that's low spec enough to not have any sort of cooling system/unit whatsoever and only has 4 gigs of ram. Since the ROG phone has a top of the line smartphone processor, an actual cooling unit, and double the ram I don't see why there should be any issues related to the hardware. The thing I'm not so sure about is software issues. From my perspective it should be possible to do something like this, but I'm not at all familiar with software and programming so I wouldn't have any idea if it were possible or not.
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So the whole idea of having a phone that can be put in a dock and used as a computer is really cool, but me and my friend came up with an idea to expand on that. Would it be possible to have both android and Linux on the phone and then have an app/desktop icon to switch operating systems? I know this can be done on other devices. My mate has a chrome book and installed Ubuntu on it. Just a keyboard shortcut will switch operating systems. So would it be possible to do the same thing just on an android device. Hardware wide, there shouldn't be any problems. His chrome book has a cpu that's low spec enough to not have any sort of cooling system/unit whatsoever and only has 4 gigs of ram. Since the ROG phone has a top of the line smartphone processor, an actual cooling unit, and double the ram I don't see why there should be any issues related to the hardware. The thing I'm not so sure about is software issues. From my perspective it should be possible to do something like this, but I'm not at all familiar with software and programming so I wouldn't have any idea if it were possible or not.
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You can do it with linux deploy afaik.
Honestly, it would be much better to get a fully OpenSource build running on this hardware, no chroot env, no android kernel, no android libs, no proprietary closed drivers.
Since Asus is going with the ROG branding on this one, maybe they will make source code (drivers, libs etc) available for the the linux hackers in the ROG fan community to build images for it.
There is already a lot of linux use on ROG notebooks and a pretty decent following in the ROG fanbase as it stands but if we can't get a pure OpenSource build, at least a libhybris supported port using LXC and the android kernel as a start.
So, my trusty Chromebook Flip has reached it's end of life and hasn't received updated for months... what next?
Ideally, i'd like to replace the OS with Gallium or Cloudready or any of the managed ports but would also be interested in making it a Linux onlly machine.
I've removd the write protection screw from the motherboard and enabled developer mode but am now a bit lost as to what to do next. I got as far as trying to run mrchromebox.tech/firmware-util only to receive the message that ARM devices aren't supported. Eeek! Is there an ARM supported means of flashing a fresh BIOS which allows booting a new OS?
If anyone has repurposed a C100P after end of life i'd love to hear what stable OS alternatives are available for the flip - ideally ones that can be run from boot.
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So, my trusty Chromebook Flip has reached it's end of life and hasn't received updated for months... what next?
Ideally, i'd like to replace the OS with Gallium or Cloudready or any of the managed ports but would also be interested in making it a Linux onlly machine.
I've removd the write protection screw from the motherboard and enabled developer mode but am now a bit lost as to what to do next. I got as far as trying to run mrchromebox.tech/firmware-util only to receive the message that ARM devices aren't supported. Eeek! Is there an ARM supported means of flashing a fresh BIOS which allows booting a new OS?
If anyone has repurposed a C100P after end of life i'd love to hear what stable OS alternatives are available for the flip - ideally ones that can be run from boot.
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I am in a simular situation and hope someone out there has a tricked out C100P.
Sylgrant said:
I am in a simular situation and hope someone out there has a tricked out C100P.
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I gave up waiting and sold it for £70 on eBay. It's Pixelbook Go replacement was chosen primarily for its long life of updates. Shame, I did love everything about the Flip.
The answer you're looking for is PrawnOS: https://github.com/SolidHal/PrawnOS
It is based on Debian 11 and works well on the ASUS C100P. (It also works with the ASUS C201.)
It is the most up-to-date version of Linux (Gallium is not updated since 2019) for the C100P.
I personally use it with the XFCE Desktop, but if you like the interface of ChromeOS, go with Gnome.
In the open issues, it can have a problem to boot if you use encryption while installing on SD card.
I installed it on the eMMC, which flushes away ChromeOS (which gives you more space, I have something like 11,50 Gb free after initial install, on a total 16 Gb capacity !).
Go with the armhf image, since the C100P has an ARM Cortex A17, which is a 32 bits, 4/4, 1, 80 GHz processor.
This image is Libre, so it is not blobby out-of-the-box. (More on that on the Github page.)
I had to buy myself an Atheros 9271 WiFi dongle to use WiFi (monitor and injection mode included ), and I also bought an Ethernet-to-USB adaptor.
Bluethoot will not work without a dongle, too.
It's a systemd distro, but, hey, it's still better than ChromeOS !
For pentesters out there: installing the complete Wifite dependencies made my installation crash a couple of times ( I cannot boot again after it) , so it's better to avoid it.
I had no problems with aircrack-ng/airodump-ng nor with mdk4.
Something I didn't considered when writing this comment: there is NO REPOSITORY for security upgrades in PrawnOS !
I will give away or sell my C100P, or maybe just turn it into a media player for Kodi.
But it's kinda sad that a great Github project like this lacks security upgrades.
Maybe it's the wake up call to get away from Chromebooks and other devices that are built to end in the trash bin :/
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