I want to get an android phone that can use WiFi cracking tools like reaver and aircrack-ng on NetHunter. These tools need monitor mode, so will they be usable on the OnePlus Nord N200?
Hello there, TheFilthyMongol.
Monitor mode is supported by the OnePlus Nord N200. As verification, I've included a screenshot.
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Here is a link to the Official Kali NetHunter Images. There is currently no kernel for the OnePlus Nord N200 in the Official Kali NetHunter Images.
Aselloph said:
Hello there, TheFilthyMongol.
Monitor mode is supported by the OnePlus Nord N200. As verification, I've included a screenshot.
View attachment 5632631
Here is a link to the Official Kali NetHunter Images. There is currently no kernel for the OnePlus Nord N200 in the Official Kali NetHunter Images.
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Hello there, to you, @Aselloph .
Just offering some observation and advice to help you achieve increased effectiveness/responses to your posts.
You will notice that if you address the party, to whom you intend to comment, in the fashion that I have done above, it will alert that Member that you have done so.
Similarly, if you will select the "Reply" button of the Member's post to which you wish to reply, it will alert them and quote them within your responding post. It can seem that it may make little difference in a two party conversation; however, for the sake of continuity in an open forum where multiple conversations evolve concurrently, it is best to adopt utilization of the proper tools available.
This post was intended as a helpful demonstration, not a criticism. If my explanation is lacking in some regard or you just have any question regarding my post here then feel free to respond as I've demonstrated. Then I will be alerted.
And to alert the Original Post Member, I will do this: @TheFilthyMongol
If the Member is still active and monitors, then perhaps you will get a response.
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Hello there, to you, @Aselloph .
Just offering some observation and advice to help you achieve increased effectiveness/responses to your posts.
You will notice that if you address the party, to whom you intend to comment, in the fashion that I have done above, it will alert that Member that you have done so.
Similarly, if you will select the "Reply" button of the Member's post to which you wish to reply, it will alert them and quote them within your responding post. It can seem that it may make little difference in a two party conversation; however, for the sake of continuity in an open forum where multiple conversations evolve concurrently, it is best to adopt utilization of the proper tools available.
This post was intended as a helpful demonstration, not a criticism. If my explanation is lacking in some regard or you just have any question regarding my post here then feel free to respond as I've demonstrated. Then I will be alerted.
And to alert the Original Post Member, I will do this: @TheFilthyMongol
If the Member is still active and monitors, then perhaps you will get a response.
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Hello @google user.
Thank you for your response and the information you provided. I appreciate your assistance in making my posts more successful.
What is the best approach to notify the original poster, in your opinion? Should I utilize both the @UserNameHere AND reply features, or should I prioritize one over the other?
Thank you @google user, I appreciate your help.
Aselloph said:
Hello @google user.
Thank you for your response and the information you provided. I appreciate your assistance in making my posts more successful.
What is the best approach to notify the original poster, in your opinion? Should I utilize both the @UserNameHere AND reply features, or should I prioritize one over the other?
Thank you @google user, I appreciate your help.
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Following the best practice of quoting via the "Reply" button will supersede a concern of which is most effective. Since the "Reply" method will by default alert the Member, it simply will happen. Moreover, the two methods may be utilized in differing scenarios - at least in my use cases.
Example: Having already quoted you, I am not concerned about that; you are alerted. However, I wish to involve another Member in this conversation and so I will alert @orb_selektor by tagging thusly here in this conversation. This will provide an opportunity for an "Official" welcome to XDA, which I shamefully neglected to extend to you in the previous post.
So, until @orb_selektor appears... Welcome to XDA!
Please do note, to tag the individual Member as demonstrated, one must be certain to enter the Member's name exactly as it appears under their avatar. I was alerted to this reply of yours because you correctly used the "Reply" button. But the Member you tagged was not me. We may get @google user in the conversation here, too, but that seems unlikely. That Member has been inactive for several years now.
Aselloph said:
Hello @google user.
Thank you for your response and the information you provided. I appreciate your assistance in making my posts more successful.
What is the best approach to notify the original poster, in your opinion? Should I utilize both the @UserNameHere AND reply features, or should I prioritize one over the other?
Thank you @google user, I appreciate your help.
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Welcome to XDA!
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Following the best practice of quoting via the "Reply" button will supersede a concern of which is most effective. Since the "Reply" method will by default alert the Member, it simply will happen. Moreover, the two methods may be utilized in differing scenarios - at least in my use cases.
Example: Having already quoted you, I am not concerned about that; you are alerted. However, I wish to involve another Member in this conversation and so I will alert @orb_selektor by tagging thusly here in this conversation. This will provide an opportunity for an "Official" welcome to XDA, which I shamefully neglected to extend to you in the previous post.
So, until @orb_selektor appears... Welcome to XDA!
Please do note, to tag the individual Member as demonstrated, one must be certain to enter the Member's name exactly as it appears under their avatar. I was alerted to this reply of yours because you correctly used the "Reply" button. But the Member you tagged was not me. We may get @google user in the conversation here, too, but that seems unlikely. That Member has been inactive for several years now.
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Thanks mate!
Any loyal XDA member can give welcomes as well
GOOGLE_USER said:
Following the best practice of quoting via the "Reply" button will supersede a concern of which is most effective. Since the "Reply" method will by default alert the Member, it simply will happen. Moreover, the two methods may be utilized in differing scenarios - at least in my use cases.
Example: Having already quoted you, I am not concerned about that; you are alerted. However, I wish to involve another Member in this conversation and so I will alert @orb_selektor by tagging thusly here in this conversation. This will provide an opportunity for an "Official" welcome to XDA, which I shamefully neglected to extend to you in the previous post.
So, until @orb_selektor appears... Welcome to XDA!
Please do note, to tag the individual Member as demonstrated, one must be certain to enter the Member's name exactly as it appears under their avatar. I was alerted to this reply of yours because you correctly used the "Reply" button. But the Member you tagged was not me. We may get @google user in the conversation here, too, but that seems unlikely. That Member has been inactive for several years now.
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Thank you once again for your assistance, GOOGLE_USER. I appreciate the example and all of your explanations, as they have helped me to fully comprehend and identify the correct process of notifying/alerting members. I'll make a point of always returning to your guidance to make sure my postings are as effective as possible.
Thank you for your welcome to me, GOOGLE_USER. I'm thrilled to be a member of such a wonderful community.
In addition, thank you @orb_selektor for your welcome. I appreciate it.
Thank you for all of the help @GOOGLE_USER.
Aselloph said:
Hello there, TheFilthyMongol.
Monitor mode is supported by the OnePlus Nord N200. As verification, I've included a screenshot.
View attachment 5632631
Here is a link to the Official Kali NetHunter Images. There is currently no kernel for the OnePlus Nord N200 in the Official Kali NetHunter Images.
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Is this from Nethunter? How did you go about building a custom kernel?
VoXR said:
Is this from Nethunter? How did you go about building a custom kernel?
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Hi VoXR,
The image I attached was from my OnePlus Nord N200 5G device.
I did not build a custom kernel in order to obtain the screenshot.
To acquire that screenshot, I performed the following:
Installed Termux
Ran pkg install root-repo
I had to run this twice before I could do step 3
Ran pkg install iw -y
Ran pkg install tsu
Ran sudo iw list
Scrolled up on the listed information until I discovered "Supported interface modes:"
I believe @Rusty Ferrari would be a better fit for your query, given that they managed to get NetHunter up and running on the OnePlus Nord N200.
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some of the threads are device-specific. It would take some time for the newbies to learn to post properly. But it's a learning curve. They would make it thru. I did, in a matter of one week.
Should I be really honest? Many users write extra garbage stuff, so they can take notes on the DEVS. That stinks.
It's true deilnefle, I'm doing it... I think that the rules of the forum should be reviewed, just because be a new user doesn't mean that we are noob.
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It's true deilnefle, I'm doing it... I think that the rules of the forum should be reviewed, just because be a new user doesn't mean that we are noob.
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Yes it does, acctually its ones definition.
Little harsh... ive used this place for the Hero and Galaxy S2 a lot and see these "USE SEARCH!" posts all the time.
I appreciate the work, voluntary, the site, the resources - A+ to you all, plaudits all around, and a big TY to both Googles Open Source and the communities dedication. These things are designed to become obselete, you lot keep them going
But the standard shouts, moans, and groans for pretty innocent questions borders on bullying. Half the people haven't much experience at this kind of thing, a reply with a link would help a lot and prob take 2 secs from the regulators.
Obviously therell be some spam and crap and morons about, but hopefully in the minority. Don't forget the human side please.
The older devices should really be left at an operable level, too. Why force , say, Gingerbread or ICS into something that will run like a dog? Just because you can?
Android versions come pretty rapidly and the vast array of devices and hacks and tools to root/bootload them means there's a million different ways things can be done.
I'd also say once a kernel/loader/rom is able to run the basic Google stuff, access the market, make calls, emails, and sms then its ready to ship. The longer work on bug fixing can just be done over time. EG Leomar/Checkrom on the Galaxy S2 has a rom-kitchen app, an easy way to add features, themes, kernels etc. If you have to, CWM and Rom Manager can do it through the bootloader too.
Just my 2c worth. Don't mean to sound negative and I understand it's a tech-focused forum but sometimes it does get silly. Like a NEW BEST ROM EVER! (standard source, slightly modified, bit of eye candy) or things like that.
In other words, it's mostly hacking features in (and out) that goes on, taking code from other places, altering a few init files etc - plus a big shout out too the theme designers and icon makers...
(just never forget you're working off someone elses code most of the time, and It's nice to see you all share, but don't take all the plaudits and scream at anyone who asks why app xxxx has stopped working....)
Calm down dear, it's only an Android!
It's a ***** we have to post 10 post in order to post in dev forums
no:2
My Xperia X10 Mini stucked while start and show error msg
Due to sms service blocked i was repairing my Xperia X10 Mini but while updating it shows some kind of error and now it stucked and does not turn on neither connect to PC Companion. Help mei have the only mobile is Xperia X10 Mini.
Dude if ur phone is stuck or bricked u can use sony ericsson pc companion software...
just click on update software and follow the instructions and 2.1 version will be installed back!
Hy everybody !
first excuse me for my poor english
Want to know if someone will port the miui rom to the x10 ? Trip was doing a great job but it seems that that he stoped he's work on this fantastic rom ...
Can some competent dev make a port of the miui rom to our x10 ? is it possible or too difficult ?
thx
again : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897283
Tehouster said:
again : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897283
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There is nothing about MIUI...
Tehouster said:
again : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897283
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again what ?
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It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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these are all his themes, including the MIUI also.
Trip did not finish this rom and i want to know if someone will continue he's work and finish the port of the miui rom on the x10
lunatik49 said:
Trip did not finish this rom and i want to know if someone will continue he's work and finish the port of the miui rom on the x10
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Or maybe someone can continue their own work that someone tried to pass off as their own.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Or maybe someone can continue their own work that someone tried to pass off as their own.
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What you mean like all these other devs taking googles work and passing off as their own? Please.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Or maybe someone can continue their own work that someone tried to pass off as their own.
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Are you talking about the someone(s) that promised miui to all those who donated and then didn't deliver, or the someone who actually tried to deliver on his promises, allthough using questionable methods (if "stop using my files" is a reasonable argument when using open source in an open source developers forum) I wonder what would happen if SE said "stop using our files"...
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Ironic hypocricy considering the free and open source nature of the code with which these people work with. Anyone would think we were talking about the theft of intellectual property the way some of these morons are whining. Not only is it absurd, but it also goes to show that their smarts are not directly proportional to their level of maturity.
"waaaahhh u stole ma codez &@!!"
Im going to try and port a mix of a nexus rom and use some of j and z code to cook a rom soon.. im kinda new to cooking so we will see.
It will be a miui rom... cross your fingers.
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Im away from the scene for a week and all this **** happens.. The one rom i was looking forward too had to be cancelled I am gonna go stalk trip and find out where he lives and kidnap him and make him finish the rom (honestly, i really do miss him)
rdannar said:
Im going to try and port a mix of a nexus rom and use some of j and z code to cook a rom soon.. im kinda new to cooking so we will see.
It will be a miui rom... cross your fingers.
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Spoke like true DEV
Thank you for all your work.
rdannar said:
Im going to try and port a mix of a nexus rom and use some of j and z code to cook a rom soon.. im kinda new to cooking so we will see.
It will be a miui rom... cross your fingers
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Care to add me on skype, and teach me some basic things you do when porting . Cant seem to understand what files should be replaced.
Merithong
Send from my Albanian GX10 2.2
Some news ?
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Im away from the scene for a week and all this **** happens.. The one rom i was looking forward too had to be cancelled I am gonna go stalk trip and find out where he lives and kidnap him and make him finish the rom (honestly, i really do miss him)
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I also miss that ROM :'(
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Some news ?
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Would interest me too :/
This ROM was/is amazing
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Man why did Trip leave the new MIUI Update was almost ready.
rdannar: Do you think you can get MIUI to work?
Looks like Trip might be coming back...........
Trixter66 posted on a few threads that Trip PM'D him a told him he was still cooking and coming back soon!!!
Miui n CM7 anyone???????????????????????
Lets see if we can at least remember the one n only cyanogenmod RULE.... Never ask for an ETA.................. I think this should apply to all DEV threads!
Patience is a virtue, and manslaughter is a felony!!! HEHEHEHEH!!!!
Best regards,
Chris
guys i don't know why but i was forced to make this thread regarding the behavior of the ACE community as said by developers...
till now i have seen eight developers working on ACE and out of it five developers have told that we(ACE community) do not respond to their work in a good manner instead of asking them ETA or PM them..u may think that if i send a PM to the developer what difference will it make ...but if everyone starts thinking like that THE DEVELOPER will get around 100 PM asking for ETA..
and especially i have found that if any of the member writes something wrong in a thread all the OTHER ACE member writes it in the same manner as the host has written in the thread which makes it look bad when some outsider checks ACE threads....instead why dnt u PM him asking him not to repeat it again...if he is done that same mistake more than thrice report to the Moderator..
one more thing i have found is that if any developer makes a thread saying that he is gonna to release a ROM soon i have seen people starting to replying 'just cant wait for it' and all that......hers a small EX even before Ginger Rom could have released it had 30 pages already and i can assure you out of that at least 10 pages were like 'just cant wait for it' ...everyone have the writes to express their views but sometimes it becomes annoying.....
some people may find me rude and may blame me also ...but its the time we actually realize ur mistake
ITS high time that we understand the developer and respect them....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i wouldn't want any 1 replying on this thread ...this is just an eye opener....
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes it's definitely annoying. Everybody is waiting and posting that someone is too doesn't make sense, it's redundant and definitely spam.
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lol. saying "i just can't wait for it" means we're excited to download it. it doesn't imply any negativity. we are just expressing our excitement and gratitude that someone is working to improve our beloved smartphone. how could that be annoying? what do you want us to post? it's just a news for an upcoming release. do you want us to post our experience with it even though we haven't downloaded it? that's just being plain stupid.
Haha, you and I both know it's another way of phrasing "quicken up, we're all waiting". It's said in hopes an eta is given, not in sincerity of the gratitude they have for the developer. Why don't you ask developers if they like people to post "eagerly waiting" 10 times in a thread?
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lol. saying "i just can't wait for it" means we're excited to download it. it doesn't imply any negativity. we are just expressing our excitement and gratitude that someone is working to improve our beloved smartphone. how could that be annoying? what do you want us to post? it's just a news for an upcoming release. do you want us to post our experience with it even though we haven't downloaded it? that's just being plain stupid.
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Haha, you and I both know it's another way of phrasing "quicken up, we're all waiting". It's said in hopes an eta is given, not in sincerity of the gratitude they have for the developer. Why don't you ask developers if they like people to post "eagerly waiting" 10 times in a thread?
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hell no. it's very much different. it would actually depend on how you view it. this is where cultural differences come in. a point if view of someone from this nation always differ from another. if you look at the history of the Philippines, we were very much influenced by the Americans which is why our point of view are nearly similar at theirs. we don't take the phrase "we just can't wait" literally unlike some people do. for us, it is an idiomatic expression.
and isn't it gratifying to know that people are waiting for your release?
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lol. saying "i just can't wait for it" means we're excited to download it. it doesn't imply any negativity. we are just expressing our excitement and gratitude that someone is working to improve our beloved smartphone. how could that be annoying? what do you want us to post? it's just a news for an upcoming release. do you want us to post our experience with it even though we haven't downloaded it? that's just being plain stupid.
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Agreed on this as well, dont know about the cultural view of it(no opinion on that).
respecting the developer
you said don"t reply but i am replying taht we really respect the developers that what the are doing for sga is really awsome the custom roms everything and hope they continue doing and why they bothering about asses they are everywhere
I think people consistently sending pm to the developers is a more important issue than the "excited and waiting for it" thing.
How can people be so irresponsible.and go to the extent of pm and eta abuse
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Maybe the OP and I read too much into it then..
Though I don't understand, if it was you, and someone posted in the thread that he's patiently waiting/eagerly waiting, what is your mentality when posting the same thing that you're waiting?
Because if it were me I wouldn't repeat it because I know everyone is waiting. Maybe it indeed is a cultural, or a personal thing.
But we must agree on the same thing. NO PM TO DEVELOPERS! Unless there's something to share or a question so complicated nobody in the general forums can help.
Peace guys. ^^
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lol. saying "i just can't wait for it" means we're excited to download it. it doesn't imply any negativity. we are just expressing our excitement and gratitude that someone is working to improve our beloved smartphone. how could that be annoying? what do you want us to post? it's just a news for an upcoming release. do you want us to post our experience with it even though we haven't downloaded it? that's just being plain stupid.
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I agree!
Why do you think a Developer will post about something that they will do, basically something that does not exists yet?
Answer: "To let everyone know", to inform the SGA community.
With that i think a mature developer will understand the implications of announcing such things, it is natural (and i think expected) for everyone to be excited about it, giving encouragement as well, it is not important how many times people repeating the same post, but what it brings is that the developer will also gauge how many are interested for their (upcoming) development, and i see no wrong with that.
What i see wrong or actually impolite (not wrong) would be post asking for ETA, and PMs to the developer (asking for ETA). But then again as a developer announcing to the world of a planned ROM, i think would expect such thing (and would just simply ignore such query).
the originator of this thread has good intentions, however has missed some points in his observations.
guys i dnt wnt to extend this topic anymore, this topic was just get people attentions on their mistakes or so called by people 'expression'......
i jst wanted to help or inform the people as i have bought ideos x5 and have already sold MY ACE....i was scared to write it down before as i thought it would have hurt many ACE users but when these words were told by the developers i was very much sad...
hope u people get as many dev as possible..
For developers: don't post something if you have nothing.
One more thing, I don't get the point of quoting the first post.
I am an amateur developer, just 13 years old and deciding to cook a new ROM (fla.sh - undone yet). Then peoples won't stop asking me "hey, you are 13. Can you teach me how to create my own custom ROM?" either sent me a PM or asking at my G+ account. Yeah, I hope they read this thread. +1 for you.
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I am an amateur developer, just 13 years old and deciding to cook a new ROM (fla.sh - undone yet). Then peoples won't stop asking me "hey, you are 13. Can you teach me how to create my own custom ROM?" either sent me a PM or asking at my G+ account. Yeah, I hope they read this thread. +1 for you.
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ehh, take them easy matey, regardless age there are idiots and wise people. unfortunately mostly idiots in this world (not only here). ignore
Hello Ace community
I've been away from xda forums for quite a while, resting from this kind of activity. I was a really engaged developer in Windows Mobile devices. I came here now (as I'm an owner of ACE now), read two threads and...
Hey, did something changed in last year or two?... I mean, common. Two first threads I've read say "shh, don't disturb DEVS!". I really DO know how users can become irritating on forums, I was working on many ROMs for many devices. But what is happening here is... frightening I mean: hey, a whole community spirit is just... gone?!
I hope I can stay here for a while and work for this new community, too (most of you probably don't know me). But I really hope I got a wrong feeling and it's not like that here
cheers.
yes, we are ruff here
This is XDA-Developers, not XDA-Phone-users, and the forum name says it best. As in any developer forum, RTFM should be rightfully expected from users. I am here to help people and that includes helping them HELP THEMSELVES. As it was once expected of us senior members to search for answers that were answered already, we in turn now expect the new generation of Android users to search.
In fact, Android was developed by Google [the world's largest SEARCH giant]. Search being the key word. Search is such a big deal that every Android phone has a search button on it or built in to it. So this should provide you with incentive to actively use the search feature built into this and every other forum on the web.
I am not here to hurt your precious feelings, nor am I here to avoid at all costs the possibility that you're overly sensitive and tiptoe on eggshells to interact with you. At times my answers may be harsh or crass. But the way in which I deliver my answer depends much upon the way you deliver your question. Being a member in an adult forum means you are accountable for yourself. You are responsible for the way you act and interact. I am not here to assume you are smart or dumb. You will, in the end, reveal which best describes you by your posts. Think before you speak. Search before you ask. Read before you write.
Many developers and members are getting tired of seeing other members come into a thread and post a question that has been answered more times than we can count. Most answered right in the OP. Many more answered in the first few pages of a thread, or 29 other threads about the same thing your question pertains to.
By acting like a "n00b", you bring undo attention to the fact that you haven't searched and thus making many feel like you have no intention of even trying. Why should we try and help you when you show no motivation to help yourself? This aura of self-entitlement turns many of us off and kills your chances of getting any real help.
There are ways to ask for help. This does NOT include coming into a thread and demanding answers, or posting the question over and over, or creating multiple threads with he same question. These things will only make your stay here more volatile.
Many of us have been here or on other forums for a lot of years. There are certain 'road rules', things that may not be in writing but are understood on the web. Just like there are certain unwritten rules in life but are merely understood by those with common sense.
This isn't meant to single anyone out [hence no names mentioned] or spark anyone's desire to flame. It's a 'rough guide' as you will to helping members navigate their way around this DEVELOPER forum.
Amen. Well said. Nothing is more frustrating than coming here with the intention of helping people out, only to have the most efficient answer be "read the op"...I'm a user, not a developer; my contribution is to help those who need it when I can, but at least try to help yourself.
Thanks. Just see too much of it in here and it's becoming a huge problem. Dev's are thinking about leaving etc...
It's gotta stop.
thanks，i learned……
My problem is that even I don't know where to post... all of my posts are development-related and from the mere existence of this topic I extrapolate that this sub-forum is for development-related Q&A, but the description really only lists "hacking-related" as a requirement... and hacking is a very broad term that may include anything from "How to get root permissions?" to "How do I create my own operating system based on Android?"
More precise descriptions for the sub-forums, along with a sticky that people could point to would go a long way, as would a larger number of moderators and a more intuitive way to request a topic to be moved.
Searching will only get you so far if all kinds of topics are intermixed.
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My problem is that even I don't know where to post... all of my posts are development-related and from the mere existence of this topic I extrapolate that this sub-forum is for development-related Q&A, but the description really only lists "hacking-related" as a requirement... and hacking is a very broad term that may include anything from "How to get root permissions?" to "How do I create my own operating system based on Android?"
More precise descriptions for the sub-forums, along with a sticky that people could point to would go a long way, as would a larger number of moderators and a more intuitive way to request a topic to be moved.
Searching will only get you so far if all kinds of topics are intermixed.
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Just search the forum and you will find threads that suite your needs.
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Not really... try to search for something a bit more complex... let's say, information on how to allow an Android application to call UID-protected system functions and you'll quickly end up with a whole lot of threads... about 97% of which are not development-related. That's why we need clear guidelines on where questions are supposed to be asked... and stickes... and moderators...
You should never post a question in a development forum. You should never post a question in a ROM thread..that is used for bug reports. Questions go in Q&A.
But Q&A is borderline useless right now because it's spammed with non development-related questions... I get the impression I'm not clear enough about the problem:
When I have a question, I'm supposed to look for other people asking the same question first. BUT since the Q&A forum contains both user-questions, as well as developer-questions, any search performed will inevitably turn up both kinds of questions; usually with the user-questions making up the majority (which will BTW also prevent other devs from finding my question). That's because users don't know that this is a development Q&A forum. I know that now, but the majority of questions are asked by people who just quickly drop in for a question or two... expecting everybody to immediately understand the rules when they're not written down doesn't seem like a realistic approach. And by written down, I mean at the very least, a sticky in each forum.
If you use the Q&A forum specific to your phone you get answers to your questions quickly.
Look at my example question again... what would that have to do with my phone: It's a question about software development and the Android software stack in general, not a particular device.
Oh, my fault!! Maybe you should start your own forum and hire 3,000 moderators then maybe you will get the support you need.
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This is XDA-Developers, not XDA-Phone-users, and the forum name says it best. As in any developer forum, RTFM should be rightfully expected from users. I am here to help people and that includes helping them HELP THEMSELVES. As it was once expected of us senior members to search for answers that were answered already, we in turn now expect the new generation of Android users to search.
In fact, Android was developed by Google [the world's largest SEARCH giant]. Search being the key word. Search is such a big deal that every Android phone has a search button on it or built in to it. So this should provide you with incentive to actively use the search feature built into this and every other forum on the web.
I am not here to hurt your precious feelings, nor am I here to avoid at all costs the possibility that you're overly sensitive and tiptoe on eggshells to interact with you. At times my answers may be harsh or crass. But the way in which I deliver my answer depends much upon the way you deliver your question. Being a member in an adult forum means you are accountable for yourself. You are responsible for the way you act and interact. I am not here to assume you are smart or dumb. You will, in the end, reveal which best describes you by your posts. Think before you speak. Search before you ask. Read before you write.
Many developers and members are getting tired of seeing other members come into a thread and post a question that has been answered more times than we can count. Most answered right in the OP. Many more answered in the first few pages of a thread, or 29 other threads about the same thing your question pertains to.
By acting like a "n00b", you bring undo attention to the fact that you haven't searched and thus making many feel like you have no intention of even trying. Why should we try and help you when you show no motivation to help yourself? This aura of self-entitlement turns many of us off and kills your chances of getting any real help.
There are ways to ask for help. This does NOT include coming into a thread and demanding answers, or posting the question over and over, or creating multiple threads with he same question. These things will only make your stay here more volatile.
Many of us have been here or on other forums for a lot of years. There are certain 'road rules', things that may not be in writing but are understood on the web. Just like there are certain unwritten rules in life but are merely understood by those with common sense.
This isn't meant to single anyone out [hence no names mentioned] or spark anyone's desire to flame. It's a 'rough guide' as you will to helping members navigate their way around this DEVELOPER forum.
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what does rtfm mean?
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what does rtfm mean?
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Read the F'n manual.
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Oh, my fault!! Maybe you should start your own forum and hire 3,000 moderators then maybe you will get the support you need.
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I think we can stop the bickering about whether there is an issue right now... this thread was specifically created because there is one. And denying it isn't going to help.
Treating any suggestions to improve things as an attack doesn't produce solutions, just frustration. And I'm not talking about a thousand moderators, just maybe two or three per forum instead of one for every three.
Right now, I'd have to bend (bumping) or break (posting in the wrong forum) the rules to get any messages to the people that I want to reach... obviously a lot of people are doing just that, but to me that doesn't seem like a particularly good option.
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I think we can stop the bickering about whether there is an issue right now... this thread was specifically created because there is one. And denying it isn't going to help.
Treating any suggestions to improve things as an attack doesn't produce solutions, just frustration. And I'm not talking about a thousand moderators, just maybe two or three per forum instead of one for every three.
Right now, I'd have to bend (bumping) or break (posting in the wrong forum) the rules to get any messages to the people that I want to reach... obviously a lot of people are doing just that, but to me that doesn't seem like a particularly good option.
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If you have a point to make I'm not sure what it is. Every device has four separate forums. General, questions, development and themes. If you can't fit your question into one of those device specific forums then you are worse off than I imagine. Maybe I give people too much credit assuming they have common sense. This thread was designed to bring a problem to public. Now people are coming in here and doing exactly what I said in the OP.
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The point is that it's frustrating to use the forums right now because the topics aren't properly sorted. People are posting device-specific issues all over the "Android Dev & Hacking" forums, because well, they don't know any better and that's a problem that has to be solved.
I'm not sure how to say it any simpler than that: Do you agree that having all kinds of posts mixed up is a bad thing? Because that's what's happening now.
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The point is that it's frustrating to use the forums right now because the topics aren't properly sorted. People are posting device-specific issues all over the "Android Dev & Hacking" forums, because well, they don't know any better and that's a problem that has to be solved.
I'm not sure how to say it any simpler than that: Do you agree that having all kinds of posts mixed up is a bad thing? Because that's what's happening now.
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No kidding. That's what this whole topic is about. Did you miss the point of the OP?
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And that's why I suggested clearer rules (and more visible) and more than one moderator... I don't really get where the issue is here?
Really people. Is it honestly that hard? Each and every device has its own forum. And in that forum there are four sub-forums. Precisely: Q&A, General, Dev and Themes. If one can't intelligently figure out that Questions go in the Q&A section, Development bugs and reporting go in the Dev section, General garbage goes in the General section and so on and so forth, then you honestly don't belong here.
You are the ones clogging these very forums and threads with your useless nonsense. As I stated in the OP, you are responsible for yourself here. You are expected to have some sort of common sense and discretion when posting and if you don't then honestly....good riddance. This is a Developer driven forum. If you can't understand what that means then go back to third grade, because you FAILED.
There IS a problem. It's people not being able to use their brains and some common sense and you are a burden to many of us here.
[POLL] Vote for a clean and efficient forum "OPERATION IRON FIST" on P500 forums ?
I hate to be that guy but someone has to do it.
As most of you have noticed more and more new users are appearing on XDA thanks to the existence of the LG Optimus one.
The lg optimus one is a very popular device and because of that a lot of users that never owned a smartphone come in here, that is a great thing but wen most of those users can barely read the English language and have no respect for existing users and the forum itself and they only want a quick fix for their problem, that is when popularity becomes a problem.
In the last few weeks an annoying amount of useless threads have been wrongly created in the General and Development section by new users desperate for immediate attention, instead of posting in the specific Rom or Kernel threads where most of them must know their questions belong.
I say "must know" because you don't just go from not having a problem in flashing a rom and having a problem and have no idea what might be the cause of your problem. please stop playing stupid, you must know how to browse the web and read instructions, otherwise you wouldn't get here and be able to create threads.
And here is an observation to all of you who sell your "soul" for Thanks:
Stop overlooking the continuous breaking of rules just hoping to get a "Thanks" from the user posting in wrong section, double posting, useless posting...etc
Is a lot easier to click on one of this threads then to start a new one!
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Exactly. Look at my posts and add some quotes would be nice.
Kssood and some more users do it.
Maybe we should make ONE thread were everyones MOD can be posted.
This can not go on.
Greets!
Will do, thank you.
I'm in favour
DJoptimus-One said:
I'm in favour
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Sorry, forgot to mention in title that this is a poll
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Sorry, forgot to mention in title that this is a pool,
this is my first started thread ever on xda, please vote.
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Oh and it is a poll not pool, you swim in a pool, you vote in a poll
I was born in the '90's... 1290's >
vlt96 said:
Oh and it is a poll not pool, you swim in a pool, you vote in a poll
I was born in the '90's... 1290's >
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Thanks, good thing too because i can't swim,
maybe it was my subcontinent feeling like drowning in spam
and smartass RO users like you, Nazis were proud of the-yr nationality too.
up.... keep voting.
I know i sayd all there is to say about the situation in the first post,
but please post here to keep the tread on first page where it can be seen and other users can vote too, thanks.
I almost agreed with this thread, due in part to the "thanks" issue. I agree with the continued soliciting for thanks or stupid posts like "This will be reported!!". Then I noticed the "spam" bit again, now the following is the definition of spam:
Spam is the use of electronic messaging systems (including most broadcast media, digital delivery systems) to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately.
No I have not seen this happen on this forum, what I have seen is a load of showboating and harassing of users purely for the sake of doing so, or getting the post count up. I am a developer, not recognized by XDA, purely because I do not have the time to develop for fun right now. I used to build roms for windows mobile, I also brought out a very decent FB Application for windows mobile (until a cease and desist order from FB). My point is this, yes, there are very talented individuals here, but why want to ban/threaten/shoot everything in sight just because they aren't up to the standards of the top guys?
I have been a member of this community for a long time, I have seen it grow over the years. It is built on a passion for these mobile devices we own, which some of us have spent hard earned money for. Running rampant, being more "strict" doesn't quite solve the problem.
Senior members, help the new members. New members, ask for help in the right place like pointed out in the 1st post. The development section should contain our roms, whether fully "developed" or just mods, thats where I expect to see roms, thats how it was always done before android even existed on these forums. General, should be just that, general help/info on the devices, upcoming technologies etc which would apply to our devices.
To build a community, lets ACT like a community and keep our personal squabbles in private. Android is about choice, XDA is about passion, a community is about friendship. In the optimus one forum, we should go back to our roots.
@cornelha where did you read i was talking about spam ?
moby_test said:
Thanks, good thing too because i can't swim,
maybe it was my subcontinent feeling like drowning in spam
and smartass RO users like you, Nazis were proud of the-yr nationality too.
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Right there. You are missing the point totally.
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Right there. You are missing the point totally.
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"Missing the point", what point? I was just replaying to vlt96 why i wrote pool instead of poll, it has nothing to do whit what you might think.
It was jut a lame excuse for my spell error. You guys are so jumpy to criticize everything and underline other people mistakes just so you can feel better whit your own wacky ego.
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"Missing the point", what point? I was just replaying to vlt96 why i wrote pool instead of poll, it has nothing to do whit what you might think.
It was jut a lame excuse for my spell error. You guys are so jumpy to criticize everything and underline other people mistakes just so you can feel better whit your own wacky ego.
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Nope that wasn't made to make you feel bad, it was a funny spelling mistake
I was born in the '90's... 1290's >
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Nope that wasn't made to make you feel bad, it was a funny spelling mistake
I was born in the '90's... 1290's >
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God only knows why you were "made"...
(I'm not a bad guy, i just have a low tolerance for stupid idiots that have a high self-esteem)
mDroidd said:
Exactly. Look at my posts and add some quotes would be nice.
Kssood and some more users do it.
Maybe we should make ONE thread were everyones MOD can be posted.
This can not go on.
Greets!
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Seconded
Lycan said:
Seconded
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Sorry, my english is not that good, what do you mean?
*kouch* bump *kouch*
Can this way of cleaning be applied on the Dev forum also?
Look at the SPRING ROM!!!!!!
ANyways, I don't think this will be the way.
For now, my tactic is don't post in ANY thread that I don't like.
DOn't even say you don't like it, it will only bump the thread.
mDroidd said:
Sorry, my english is not that good, what do you mean?
*kouch* bump *kouch*
Can this way of cleaning be applied on the Dev forum also?
Look at the SPRING ROM!!!!!!
ANyways, I don't think this will be the way.
For now, my tactic is don't post in ANY thread that I don't like.
DOn't even say you don't like it, it will only bump the thread.
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Just ignoring useless threads won't make them go away or stop the creation of more, i do the same thing but those guys begging for thanks won't...
Lets say that some new user or even you are searching for an answer, think of it like searching Google and getting 100.000.000 result, that makes it pretty difficult to find what your answer wen 99.9% of those search results are porn and you are looking for a picture of a tree ...
Edit: i realize now that creating this tread won't solve anything but...
Imagine one year from now how many treads this forum will have, can you ?
And then imagine you searching for an answer in all those threads, it will be relay difficult so you will start a new thread asking for an answer that already exists and maybe then this phone wont be so popular and you won't get an immediate response like now...
I say all this because it happened to me on an old device that was not half as popular as the o1 is.
Up...
And the stupid questions keep on poring.
Thank you for the concern.
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