I'm asking this because I'm not sure if Knox does affect the performance of the device.
delighted_ops said:
I'm asking this because I'm not sure if Knox does affect the performance of the device.
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To a very small extent, if you don't use services for business and completely disable capabilities prepared for the ordinary user.
Disabling Knox can disable many system enhancements and reduce security.
ze7zez said:
To a very small extent, if you don't use services for business and completely disable capabilities prepared for the ordinary user.
Disabling Knox can disable many system enhancements and reduce security.
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Got it, I think for me wont make a difference then, and I dont wanna just do it not understanding exaclty what I'm doing.
Thank you.
Disabling Knox though will free upto 50-100mb RAM which is an upside.
Abish4i said:
Disabling Knox though will free upto 50-100mb RAM which is an upside.
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If you are low on RAM, uninstall unused applications and you will really gain a lot.
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Can someone tell me how I can get the most out of my bu battery.
When to use the stamina feature and how will it effect the way I can use my phone.
Use stamina mode leaving no apps in your whitlist
Enable extended usage to restrict performance and increase battery performance
Remove of any unneeded apps as it becomes your batterys enemy
Turn off notifacations for intrusive apps.
this can cause your device to wake when not needed with some apps
Disable Google apps (leave neccisary ones) google can be evil, alot of their apps use precious battery life (example google search, i forget why)
Dont use battery savers, ram cleaners, or anti viruses, none of them actualy work
Because android is linux based and free ram is wasted ram in android, meaning its extremly healthy to use ram and forget about ram
Anti viruses never effective, all you can get is adware and thats not even a real virus, simply delete the app causing it your adwear and some "viruses" can ask for root so deny all that you dont know otherwise your battery enemy will eat your phone for dinner with the assistance of root
Battery saver, seems only few apps actualy work, Snapdragon battery guru and greenify actualy work compared to 2bln+ apps which are your enemy
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Thank you that's very thorough information.
HaroonZ2 said:
Thank you that's very thorough information.
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This has been covered extensively already here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2768544
I understand the whole approach Android uses to memory management as opposed to Windows etc....
I also found this blurb below
It's important to note that Greenify is not a task killer (which you shouldn't use anyway), and it doesn't "freeze" apps. The apps that Greenify hibernates are still usable if you want to switch to them, and you can still pass data to them as though they were running. When you switch back to them, it's like you never left. Greenify just keeps those apps from launching new background processes (a problem with task killers) and you don't have to unfreeze or thaw an app to use it when you want to (a problem with "frozen apps").
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But here is what I don't understand:
1) Even though it isn't a Task Killer per-say, it sure sounds like an advanced task killer to me. If it is preventing something from starting up, it is killing it.
2) What benefit is Greenify supposed to have? Having all (by all I mean maybe 5 at most) desired apps hibernating, I have 700MB of free memory (using xposed method). If I remove Greenify I have 1.5GB of free RAM. These numbers are with ALL applications already open since boot that I use on a daily basis.
While full memory is not a bad thing in Android, how can it be better having 1 app hog all of the memory vs having 5 apps running in the background using less memory. Can someone shed some further light on this?
mikemikemikexxx said:
While full memory is not a bad thing in Android, how can it be better having 1 app hog all of the memory vs having 5 apps running in the background using less memory. Can someone shed some further light on this?
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If I understand you correctly you're saying that greenify uses a lot of ram? Greenify for me is idling at 5-7 mb of ram all for time.
cAase said:
If I understand you correctly you're saying that greenify uses a lot of ram? Greenify for me is idling at 5-7 mb of ram all for time.
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Correct, it was literally using around 700Mb. I rebooted to make sure it wasn't a fluke. I removed Greenify, rebooted again and had 1.5Gb free Ram
mikemikemikexxx said:
Correct, it was literally using around 700Mb. I rebooted to make sure it wasn't a fluke. I removed Greenify, rebooted again and had 1.5Gb free Ram
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Sounds completely weird.
the main benefit of greenify is the point that it prevents apps from starting (they are frozen untill you open them) this way the apps can't force wakelocks and your device kann stay in deepsleep state longer
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Correct, it was literally using around 700Mb. I rebooted to make sure it wasn't a fluke. I removed Greenify, rebooted again and had 1.5Gb free Ram
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As I understand, greenify to me is more to battery saver depends on stopping unwanted and unneeded wakelock when app is Greenified. Also as I understand, when an apps launch or relaunched, it will consume more ram in normal way (without being Greenified).
Try this, its not a solution, more to suggestion. Try use Wake Lock Detector along with Greenify, one app will detect the problem and another will execute an action to prevent "unwanted battery and RAM usage".
Above all, it depends on how and what method of modding you perform on your device.
Its just my logic thought(not black n white proven). Hope it will help us a little.
i8190n SlimKat9.0(Android-Andi)
But all the settings. It won't let me hibernate the apps before I've completed 10 - 15 settings and there are no explanations to what the settings are. Greentify is totally useless if you're not a techie.
RolfyBerg said:
But all the settings. It won't let me hibernate the apps before I've completed 10 - 15 settings and there are no explanations to what the settings are. Greentify is totally useless if you're not a techie.
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Well - not my experience; defaults work well on most devices. There are brief in-app explainations for many options with expanded material in FAQs, XDA forum and G+ pages. Best consider an iDevice if you need/want handholding; genius bars everywhere.
ok so I read the official explanation and tried to google some more but no luck. So here are my questions.
1. Is it better for power saving?
2. What is the difference between ordinary hibernation and shallow hibernation?
thanks in advance
batman1950 said:
ok so I read the official explanation and tried to google some more but no luck. So here are my questions.
1. Is it better for power saving?
2. What is the difference between ordinary hibernation and shallow hibernation?
thanks in advance
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From knowledge base:
https://greenify.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/828357-what-is-shallow-hibernation
Shallow hibernation is unlikely to improve power saving but may not be worse than "ordinary hibernation" depending on device and app suite. Primary intent is to reduce negative impacts associated with hibernation. See explaination.
From what I understand it works in a similar way to what popular os like macOS and windows do, by saving the state of an application in the ram rather than the storage so the process can be brought back into use quickly.
IwasReloading said:
From what I understand it works in a similar way to what popular os like macOS and windows do, by saving the state of an application in the ram rather than the storage so the process can be brought back into use quickly.
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The analogy isn't accurate but the end result is similar; apps *may* 'recover' quicker when shallow hibernation is active.
Recommend sticking with standard hibernation unless you are experiencing stability, performance or recovery issues.
so... basically, if you use greenify just because you need to "disable" a tons of apps yyou rarely use,
YES....hallow method is useless and does not give you better performances in terms of blocked apps, it is better for apps that are needed sometimes to run, but for example i greenify over 40 apps that i RARELY USE....but that i need to have installed into my phone, so i use the OLD hibernation method because it is more rude and strong
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I'm trying to get my head around what Huawei have done with the "Launch" functionality. My naive understanding is that it's huawei's own attempt at greenify. Killing apps that are not being used... somewhat intelligently.
I'm wondering if this actually has any impact on battery at all, it certainly stops processes from launching and running.. notifications being missed etc.
Anyone have any ideas what this is actually doing, or if the setting is actually beneficial? I thought google was against this sort of practice when doze is their solution.
Secondly, the following apps are allowed to ignore battery optimisation out of the box:
Backup
Camera
com.huawei.hiviewtunnel
Email
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Health
HwLBSService
Screen recording
System update
Any one know if it is advisable to set these to don't allow ignoring of battery optimisations?
Thanks
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Hi All
I'm trying to get my head around what Huawei have done with the "Launch" functionality. My naive understanding is that it's huawei's own attempt at greenify. Killing apps that are not being used... somewhat intelligently.
I'm wondering if this actually has any impact on battery at all, it certainly stops processes from launching and running.. notifications being missed etc.
Anyone have any ideas what this is actually doing, or if the setting is actually beneficial? I thought google was against this sort of practice when doze is their solution.
Secondly, the following apps are allowed to ignore battery optimisation out of the box:
Backup
Camera
com.huawei.hiviewtunnel
Email
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Health
HwLBSService
Screen recording
System update
Any one know if it is advisable to set these to don't allow ignoring of battery optimisations?
Thanks
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Allow none of them. Cause no harm
lawtq said:
Allow none of them. Cause no harm
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I'm wondering the same thing.
Are you sure that we can allow none of them app ?
I'm not allowing any apps that need to stay running (in the background) like Garmin Connect, Ad blocker, virus scanner and some more to avoid Huawei killing them. I see no difference in battery consumption.
sonydesouza said:
I'm wondering the same thing.
Are you sure that we can allow none of them app ?
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I've disallowed all of them. I don't see any problems
lawtq said:
I've disallowed all of them. I don't see any problems
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And did you see any improvments ?
sonydesouza said:
And did you see any improvments ?
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Tbh no. Lol. Battery is great no matter what. But no harm either
i have this app but i dont know wich apps to hibernate, because people recommend to hibernate apps that you dont use but i kinda use a lot of apps , and if i use the magisk version can i hibernate apps without missing notifications?
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i have this app but i dont know wich apps to hibernate, because people recommend to hibernate apps that you dont use but i kinda use a lot of apps , and if i use the magisk version can i hibernate apps without missing notifications?
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The only apps that need to be hibernated are those that frequently start or run in the background *and* consume significant resources. This is an infrequent occurrence on Android 6+ as doze keeps most bad actors in check. If you can not identify misbehaving apps there is little benefit to using Greenify.
so not even boost mode with the magisk module will make a difference?
THEwed123wet said:
so not even boost mode with the magisk module will make a difference?
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Just to add to @Davey126's true and clear statement: Most likely not.
As you're obviously using Greenify4Magisk, please allow me to partially quote its OP:
A very simple module just to make Greenify work as a rom-integrated (privileged) app systemlessly (also known as Boost Mode), ...
* Note: You won't get any xposed-side features, since magisk is NOT xposed!
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To ensure not to miss any notification, Greenify needs to run as a Xposed module.
How can you tell that an app constantly restarts in background?
crittarr said:
How can you tell that an app constantly restarts in background?
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Check to see if it (or related processes) are running and, more importantly, consuming excess resources. Built in tools are a starting point including the often ignored/maligned Android battery 'app' and the 'running processes' gadget usually located under developer options. Don't kill everything you see; just because it has a pulse doesn't mean it has to die (or be hibernated).
Can you name a third party root-free most reliable tool for telling how much energy apps drain?
I would be glad to know if apps are consuming excess resources but this is not told by the onboard android 7 tools I know of. If I go to battery more settings the most usage shows to be from android OS, bluetooth (headphones) and screen. Still making full (and probably excessive) use of tools like brevent or greenify does make the battery graph flatten noticeably.
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Can you name a third party root-free most reliable tool for telling how much energy apps drain?
I would be glad to know if apps are consuming excess resources but this is not told by the onboard android 7 tools I know of. If I go to battery more settings the most usage shows to be from android OS, bluetooth (headphones) and screen. Still making full (and probably excessive) use of tools like brevent or greenify does make the battery graph flatten noticeably.
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Built in tools are more than adequate but if you prefer 3rd party give GSAM a whirl as I find it easier to use than BBS (Better Battery Stats). Some also like Accubattery; too much flash and dash for my tastes. Good luck.