Hi guys,
I wanted to report that I've noticed that the screen on my s23 ultra is much "cooler" in terms of colors, and that when shifting the device to different sides, there is a very visible color shifting towards green/bluish. This is very frustrating for me because skin tones and pictures that have a lot of warm colors in them tend to look greenish and colder.
My S21 Ultra doesn't have this issue, the screen just looks great from all angles and is generally better in producing white color.
I was wondering what's your experience with the screen of S23 Ultra, maybe even compared to your previous devices?
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Same issue with mine. I use natural mode and the white balance seems quite a bit off (too greenish) compared to my S21U and P7P.
And the viewing angles are really bad with a strong green tint, especially when viewed at an angle from the top.
Therefore skin tones really take a hit if the phone is flat on my desk.
I've noticed there's a slight uneven uniformity in brightness and colour temperature.
Same issue on mine. Off-axis color shifting is worse than the S22 Ultra, S21 UItra, Pixel 7 Pro, and OnePlus 11 when compared side by side. Dark mode reduces the issue, but it's really bad on apps/websites with white backgrounds.
MrDusan said:
Hi guys,
I wanted to report that I've noticed that the screen on my s23 ultra is much "cooler" in terms of colors, and that when shifting the device to different sides, there is a very visible color ****fing towards green/bluish. This is very frustrating for me because skin tones and pictures that have a lot of warm colors in them tend to look greenish and colder.
My S21 Ultra doesn't have this issue, the screen just looks great from all angles and is generally better in producing white color.
I was wondering what's your experience with the screen of S23 Ultra, maybe even compared to your previous devices?
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This is due to the blue light filter Samsung applied by default to compluly with TUV standards for eye protection, they calibrated the screen this way to meet TUV certifications
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This is due to the blue light filter Samsung applied by default to compluly with TUV standards for eye protection, they calibrated the screen this way to meet TUV certifications
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Didn't samsung start applying blue light filters since the s10 series? I think they even advertized how bluelight free s10's screen was.
So I guess all phones before s23 had them, without this weird color shifting.
I mean, I'm not a screen expert, but just following the logic, if there's a blue light filter embedded, why is the screen so blue/green when tilted?
MrDusan said:
Didn't samsung start applying blue light filters since the s10 series? I think they even advertized how bluelight free s10's screen was.
So I guess all phones before s23 had them, without this weird color shifting.
I mean, I'm not a screen expert, but just following the logic, if there's a blue light filter embedded, why is the screen so blue/green when tilted?
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Yes it is true they applied it since S10 and when I bought Note 10+ years ago i thought the screen was defective because it was more greenish than my Oneplus 7t Pro , actually bluelight filters make gray more greenish and white more yellow, because it blocks the harmful amount of bluelight not all blue light
What is strange is that my brother's S21 ultra is whiter than both my Note 10 + , S22 ultra & S23 ultra
Also when I wear blue light glasses it give same effect on my laptop's screen
Everything that you are saying makes sense. What bothers me is that samsung makes all these wonderful screens for it's previous devices (like you mentioned s21 ultra which i also think looks great), and now this happens with the very noticeable color shifting like it did way back on s7 series.
For those of you that having color issues is Eye Comfort On? Is Vivid Screen Mode On? Is Color Correction On? Is Color Filter On?
Any of these being On could affect the screen colors if they are enabled.
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This is due to the blue light filter Samsung applied by default to compluly with TUV standards for eye protection, they calibrated the screen this way to meet TUV certifications
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My note 9 has the same problem of differing white balance/tints when slightly off-axis and I don't think that had any physical filter installed.
Have any you tried enabling Eye Comfort then selecting Custom over Adaptive and Color Temperature all way to the left and Enhanced Comfort enabled. That makes the screen as white as possible.
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Have any you tried enabling Eye Comfort then selecting Custom over Adaptive and Color Temperature all way to the left and Enhanced Comfort enabled. That makes the screen as white as possible.
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I haven't tried this but the problem isn't just how white the whites are, it's the fact that slightest tilt in any direction results in differing white balance and brightness
Paul_Deemer said:
Have any you tried enabling Eye Comfort then selecting Custom over Adaptive and Color Temperature all way to the left and Enhanced Comfort enabled. That makes the screen as white as possible.
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This makes it slightly less noticeable, but the color shift is still worse than the S22 Ultra. It's definitely a hardware issue.
Read this review guys, it contains several technical aspects
Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra Display test - DXOMARK
Check our review of the Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra display with our comprehensive test. Discover the resolution, color accuracy, and more.
www.dxomark.com
@MrDusan I edited your OP as you had mispelled "shifting" by switching the F and the T, so our profanity filter bleeped it
As far as the tint...Many LED screens have twice as many green pixels as blue and red, because the human eye is most sensitive to different shades of green. Not everyone's eyes are the same, obviously, which is why some individuals are unfortunately colorblind - they may be less sensitive to certain colors than others, or be less able to distinguish between red and green for example.
And this how it's compared to S22U
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And this how it's compared to S22U
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That's not my experience. Here is mine next to my Note 9. From the front they look almost identical, but from an angle it's much different.
Edit: how many other people have S23 Ultras like mine?
FlexiPack said:
That's not my experience. Here is mine next to my Note 9. From the front they look almost identical, but from an angle it's much different.
Edit: how many other people have S23 Ultras like mine?
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try the instructions on this video
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try the instructions on this video
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Thanks but I've already checked that. If it was a software issue, it would be yellow when looking at it from the front as well.
When I look at mine head on the screen looks just fine. Why would you want to look at your screen from an extreme angle anyway? It's not like your watching a big screen tv with people on the sides getting a bad view. Your almost always looking at the screen directly anyway and in that case it looks just fine me.
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Seems like the camera by default oversaturates everyting!
I found this on the Sprint community forums[/URL] so I thought I would share it as it made my pictures look a lot better
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Camera>options>image adjustment> saturation>-1. that should fix the redness
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I don't have a good subject to show you what I mean, so I just took a picture of a picture from my LCD (Google images! Yay!)
Please post your own examples and tell me if you think it makes the pictures look better!
The original Sprint thread: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/90509?start=15&tstart=0
If you read that thread people are flipping out over this issue, but -1 Saturation seems to fix it for me
What do you guys think?
[EDIT: I moved the texts boxes as they were backwards! Left pic is -1 saturation; right pic is default! The chunks of the girl's shoulder in the text boxes is inverted!]
Kujila said:
Seems like the camera by default oversaturates everyting!
I found this on the Sprint community forums[/URL] so I thought I would share it as it made my pictures look a lot better
I don't have a good subject to show you what I mean, so I just took a picture of a picture from my LCD (Google images! Yay!)
Please post your own examples and tell me if you think it makes the pictures look better!
The original Sprint thread: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/90509?start=15&tstart=0
If you read that thread people are flipping out over this issue, but -1 Saturation seems to fix it for me
What do you guys think?
[EDIT: I moved the texts boxes as they were backwards! Left pic is -1 saturation; right pic is default! The chunks of the girl's shoulder in the text boxes is inverted!]
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Did this morning while I was comparing the pictures with my galaxy nexus, you just need to be careful some pictures will look like crap after this, one thing I hate is taking pics in the dark with this phone it doesn't focus like the nexus pictures look blurry, any suggestions?
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I found that you can actually tap the screen on the subject you want to focus on and the phone will make a sound and focus accordingly to what you tapped...
Did you try that yet?
Thanks
Kujila said:
I found that you can actually tap the screen on the subject you want to focus on and the phone will make a sound and focus accordingly to what you tapped...
Did you try that yet?
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In dark light conditions does work but doesn't turn on flash so is just focusing on the dark which ain't helpfull at all
Try to take over 10 pictures in the dark, and it sucks
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Unlike the galaxy nexus in the first try
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i found that it's better if i make sure the flash is on, rather than auto...
maybe a software fix will be in the works
yeah set flash to ON
also select "Close up" instead of automatic and then tap the object
The main problem is that the display is oversaturated. Washing out the pictures you take won't help the display problem.
PS: That thread is about the display saturation, not the camera saturation. There are a couple of camera posts in it, but they are off-base.
I just shot some test images of an X-Rite Digital Color Checker SG reference target.
I shot with 5500K lights and with just the camera's flash, with normal saturation and with the saturation turned down one click. I let the camera use automatic color balance, as there is no setting for my 5500K lights.
I then opened the images in PhotoShop 6 and took readings off the various color and grayscale patches.
With the saturation set normally, the images were slightly oversaturated, but not bad. The gray scales were very good on the whites, but as you get darker, they have a lot of green fall-off.
I think the camera shoots well enough. The green fall-off may be partly due to the automatic white balance trying to cope with my 5500K lights, but is is visible in the flash images too. It's not bad.
Taking one click of saturation out definitely ruins the images. It's far too much. If you could take out a tenth of a click, it would be pretty close to perfect.
Unreasnbl said:
The main problem is that the display is oversaturated. Washing out the pictures you take won't help the display problem.
PS: That thread is about the display saturation, not the camera saturation. There are a couple of camera posts in it, but they are off-base.
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I havn't noticed any oversaturation of this display. The only place I notice it is in the camera app.
Lol its a cell phone camera not a Canon 7D. I really think alot of people are starting to expect way too much from cell phone cameras lol.
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Lol its a cell phone camera not a Canon 7D. I really think alot of people are starting to expect way too much from cell phone cameras lol.
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As I said above, I have tested the camera and it is fine. It's the best cell phone camera I have ever used or tested.
The display is not fine, but people keep confusing the display problem with a camera problem.
Since the OP quoted and referenced a display problem thread in this camera thread, I thought I would try to clear things up. The advice quoted by the OP is bad advice.
So again ... the camera is fine. Don't try to "fix" what's not broken.
IMO it's not the camera that saturates the pics it's the screen. When I tranfer my pictures on to my mac they look fine. If you browse pictures on Facebook with the phone you get the same oversaturation of color. Somene should work on a fix for the screen not the camera.
Unreasnbl said:
As I said above, I have tested the camera and it is fine. It's the best cell phone camera I have ever used or tested.
The display is not fine, but people keep confusing the display problem with a camera problem.
Since the OP quoted and referenced a display problem thread in this camera thread, I thought I would try to clear things up. The advice quoted by the OP is bad advice.
So again ... the camera is fine. Don't try to "fix" what's not broken.
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Yeah the display is a bit saturated but overall im satisfied with the display especially the viewing angles!
Unreasnbl said:
I just shot some test images of an X-Rite Digital Color Checker SG reference target.
I shot with 5500K lights and with just the camera's flash, with normal saturation and with the saturation turned down one click. I let the camera use automatic color balance, as there is no setting for my 5500K lights.
I then opened the images in PhotoShop 6 and took readings off the various color and grayscale patches.
With the saturation set normally, the images were slightly oversaturated, but not bad. The gray scales were very good on the whites, but as you get darker, they have a lot of green fall-off.
I think the camera shoots well enough. The green fall-off may be partly due to the automatic white balance trying to cope with my 5500K lights, but is is visible in the flash images too. It's not bad.
Taking one click of saturation out definitely ruins the images. It's far too much. If you could take out a tenth of a click, it would be pretty close to perfect.
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While its obvuious that you know more about photography than I do, I tend to disagree slightly with your statement. When I mms pictures to others with phones including iPhone 4s, ET4G, and NS4G the oversaturation of pink hues is still present. In addition, I believe if this was solely an issue of the screen then this oversaturatuon would be present across the board and not isolated to photographs taken with the on-board camera.
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Yeah, pictures of my hands and arms look all bright pink, even when I view them on my laptop or desktop or tablet. In reality my skin is olive-ish and certainly not bright pink.
I am no expert at screens or photos so I'm really not sure what is going on with the pics.
The display oversaturation is constant, not just when using the camera. Watch some video on it.
The camera is a bit off, as I said above, but I think it's not bad.
Also, I have only tested my phone, I am sure there are some out there that are better and some that are worse.
mlin said:
While its obvuious that you know more about photography than I do, I tend to disagree slightly with your statement. When I mms pictures to others with phones including iPhone 4s, ET4G, and NS4G the oversaturation of pink hues is still present. In addition, I believe if this was solely an issue of the screen then this oversaturatuon would be present across the board and not isolated to photographs taken with the on-board camera.
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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Here are some some daytime shots comparisons with an Lg G4. Just move the slider to view one photo or the other...
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the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
icugotit2 said:
the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
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Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
Wow! The Edge does so much better! Way to much brightness and less detail on the G4.
There is a bit too much sharpening on the third comparison on the Edge side, but it still looks better than the G4 that is kind of blurry.
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Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
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When looking at full screen colours on the cars are better on the g4 for picture number 1. However, I really feel the contrast and white balance are better on the s7. Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
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Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
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Good point. On the other hand, in the same picture the S7E missed the different colour of the sky/clouds at the end of the alleyway, trough the branches. The next comparison shows similar stuff - in the one with the statue - the G4 captures more of the color in the sky (actually closer to what it was in reality). While in the third one both are similar sky-wise.
Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a
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Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a bigger sensor like Panasonic did with the CM1. I would have loved to see a CM2! Their 20MPx was producing better results than most dedicated cameras!
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Anyway out of some software bugs with the S7 (Samsung mail crashed in loops and Play Store kept saying data in background need to be activated when they were already... each time solved by a restart, the S7 is a nice piece of technology.
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Phil
Took a picture of our new Pup, first picture using the the S7 edge.
Impressed with how awesome it came out, just used a tool to blur the background around him.
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
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Those of us coming from less than spectacular cameras, such as me (HTC one m8), I'm finding the camera incredibly awesome. I got this phone mainly for the camera. The focus is super quick, the color reproduction is very good and I do enjoy the pro more the Galaxy S7 offers.
Were this pictures taken with manual or auto mode on G4, since my son had a G4 and it's auto mode really sucks.
Getting excited .. wish it's 18th now that I can take my hands on this beast..
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Loss of detail in normal/good light conditions vs Note 4 / S5
S7 camera looks a bit over sharpened for my taste at the same time there is more details in every picture (shooting raw will be a solution for this).
Colors looks better and more realistic on the S7 (not knowing how the original scene looks), but the first shot is a bit too much contrast.
Overall the S7 is the better camera in this shootout.
pogi.paul0119 said:
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
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i saw an article in GSM arena wherein they compared the Sony and Samsung Sensors and theres no much difference.. they are both good in different aspects
Front facing camera focus issue
Anyone else have issues with the front facing camera not focusing?
Here are two pictures as examples, one with the front facing and the other with the rear camera
This shooter is top notch. Love the Pro mode. That's the killer app I've been waiting for from Samsung or Android. The manual controls are easy to toggle and the snappy hardware enhances the experience.
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Please Samsung, ease down on the artificial image sharpening: youtube.com/watch?v=OR5UziCqXew
Have anyone tried 10 sek shutter by hand? Is it possible to hold it still enough?
If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the LG G6's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The LCD is fairly color accurate all considering. This screen is very close to what I achieve using a hardware color calibrate with my work machines. The reds are not too red (faux saturation) and the cooler tones show up as prominently.
It's just a shame I can't hook up a hardware calibrator to it to test it.
Solid color accuracy
I am coming from a OnePlus 3T, so when first firing up the G6 I was a little disappointed. I couldn't believe how much more vivid the AMOLED screen was compared to the LCD. Well, now that I have been using the G6 exclusively for the past two days, I am growing quite fond of this screen. The colors are quite accurate and precise, just not as vivid/saturated as what I was looking at for the past 6 months. Liking this phone more and more each day.
The screen color temperature is definitely on the cool side, certainly higher than 6500K.
It is not pleasant at first for me. I've been using Nexus 6P on sRGB mode for more than a year, and the color saturation on the G6 under default, out of the box settings is disheartening.
To somehow mitigate this, what I did was to enable ComfortView, set at Low Setting. It's far from perfect, but that's better than nothing.
How is this compared to the S8/+ ?
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How is this compared to the S8/+ ?
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From what I saw side by side compared to the S8+ at full brightness, I could see the whites having a more pinkish hue very slightly than the S8+. The S8+ having brighter highlights. Obviously, the S8+ also has deeper blacks, more saturated, and viewing angles are much better because of its AMOLED display. Other than that, the overall range of colours seemed fairly close between the G6 and S8+.
Not sure who will see this but I think the G6 LCD screen compared to an amoled like the one's on the oneplus 3/3t/5 and the s8/s8+ is just better in certain scenarios. There are some people who might be audiophile esque and want high fidelity and things like that. And there might be some people who like bass boosted beat headphones and other things like that which are not accurate at all but are enjoyable on a certain level. If you like big bass sound and you are that kind of person then you will like the amoled screen but I am personally not. I like knowing that what I see on my screen is what it is supposed to look like.
For instance the other day I was looking at a picture of the fifty shades of gray poster. It is supposed to be black and gray but it had a colored tint to it on the s8 compared to a g6 which looked as it should. All I am saying is that there are going to be times when the s8 because it pops colors so much will make what you see innacurate. And that might bother you or it might not. But it bothers me.
Exactly what Scape said. Tech people who know their stuff want accurate color reproduction and analytic sound. The wide mass wants flashy Colors and boomsound. Easy people rate phones by how saturated the phone looks. The more saturation = the better. This is complete BS for people who have knowledge about Electronics. Its like comparing people who buy a Classic car and put Chrome rims on it not caring for the paint because "CROME RIMZ M8". Where there are also people which buy a classic car, care to make it look as original as possible and know every part of their car.
The 2nd. Car may look boring to people, but its quality and worthwise extremely preferable. For example a natural Color reproduction can help when taking photos with the G6. If you take a photo on the Amoled Screen of a Galaxy, and then open it on your calibrated IPS, you will be flashed about how different it looks then on the phone. Thats not what you want.
Regarding the Bass... Well i like perfect color recreation but i hate neutral speakers or headphones, im quite a basshead but i still want a good clarity, deep stage and low noise.
Guys did anyone you tried screen color adjustment under settings-accessibility ?
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Guys did anyone you tried screen color adjustment under settings-accessibility ?
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Yeah, i kept my custom color setting enabled for a few weeks since the blue color looked way better. It is only when switching back to the default setting that i noticed how washed out the reds looked. I reverted back to the defaults.
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Yeah, i kept my custom color setting enabled for a few weeks since the blue color looked way better. It is only when switching back to the default setting that i noticed how washed out the reds looked. I reverted back to the defaults.
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True
I bought G6 after iP6S+ and I'm really disappointed from display over all. Blue is on G6 boosted as hell. At home I have calibrated displays and iPhone is much more closer. I can't watch photos (photographer) on G6 because of it. Even automatic brightness control is not ok for me. It's still dimmer than I want. LuxLite solved that but colors are terrible.
Why my phone is reporting me that I have screen resolution of 1440x2703 and PPI 544? https://imgur.com/a/lNXhw
Hello.I have Canadian oreo g6 and since the update the color s are more saturated.I held up the screen to my samsung amold screen and my g6 is matched if not better
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Hello.I have Canadian oreo g6 and since the update the color s are more saturated.I held up the screen to my samsung amold screen and my g6 is matched if not better
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This is bad news for me, I find the G6 screen beautiful (I am under 7.0) and I do not like at all the rendering amoled screens, precisely because of the saturated colors..
I found on 7.0 that the flesh tones on netflix and terrarium tv were way washed out.looked like everyone never saw the sun lol Na just saying I think LG just corrected the saturation a little bit to not make things so washed out looking.The reds are a little darker also instead of a orangey yellow tint.And like before the greens were not as dark .kinda reminded me of a mint or pastel green.Now on Oreo it is a true green and red.
Is there any app or any online guides to correct the LG G6 color accuracy and get true neutral white balance?
I have s8 and G6. I hate Amoled with that compotish colors. White is not white. Ever with pink or blue or yellow. Amoled is like woman with silicon tits. Far from reality. For me LG and Sony make most better displays.
Does anyone use this? I did for a while. I found it very good at adjusting the blues making them a bit darker FB looks much better IMO after I adjusted it
Hello,
Have since 03.02.2023 the s23 ultra. I noticed the first time that the colors are not quite as good. I then compared it with my s21 ultra and indeed the colors of the s23 ultra are not as color intensive. They shine less. Have made the same settings on both smartphones.
Unfortunately, this can not be captured on pictures very well. If you look at the picture from a YouTuber, you can see what I mean in the blue area.
Has no one noticed this yet?
Best regards
yeah noticed the same thing, but I was coming from a OnePlus 5.
color are washed out and feels like there a white film .
Coming from a S21ULTRA... I'm not seeing the difference. Play with the display calibration - mine are set the same way and look the same, a tad brighter on the new phone.
Coming from s21u I find it perfectly fine but I also always use my phone with the natural setting, not vivid setting so maybe that's why.
Honestly, looking at your pic I feel like your s21 almost had some sort of haze filter on it by looking at the "white" area. Which makes the blues sort of darker too. Hard to tell really from a pic.
But what I can tell you is that I still find the s23u screen as splendid as the s21u
My Note 10 screen looks better than my s23u
The longer I have the s23u the more I am considering returning it.
On mine the colors are pretty fine, on the left the crop of the S23U screen and on the right the target.
On the left is what my camera sees, looking with my eyes I see mostly the same colors, no exactly but nothing to be worried about. This is the most objetive test I tried to do.
Coming from an S22U, I like this S23U much more... and something more to add, this is the first firmware and for sure It will be improved, but this is the first time I get a firmware from Samsung that doesn't have so many issues like the other Galaxies Samsung released in the past.
The configuration of my screen is this:
Ipse_Tase said:
Coming from a S21ULTRA... I'm not seeing the difference. Play with the display calibration - mine are set the same way and look the same, a tad brighter on the new pho
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Ipse_Tase said:
Coming from a S21ULTRA... I'm not seeing the difference. Play with the display calibration - mine are set the same way and look the same, a tad brighter on the new phone.
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Completely agree there's a few threads on samsung and reddit talking about it. Some say it's new display tech that changes room to room. I'm not sure what it is but I hate it lol. Compared to my s21 it lacks the punch,depth,sharpness, color gamut. It has nothing to do with setting we can change at the moment from what I can find. It's driving me crazy how off it is. I thought I had a lemon of a display or something. Someone in another said he checked on multiple s23u and they all had the same look
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Hello,
Have since 03.02.2023 the s23 ultra. I noticed the first time that the colors are not quite as good. I then compared it with my s21 ultra and indeed the colors of the s23 ultra are not as color intensive. They shine less. Have made the same settings on both smartphones.
Unfortunately, this can not be captured on pictures very well. If you look at the picture from a YouTuber, you can see what I mean in the blue area.
Has no one noticed this yet?
Best regards
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Completely agree there's a few threads on samsung and reddit talking about it. Some say it's new display tech that changes room to room. I'm not sure what it is but I hate it lol. Compared to my s21 it lacks the punch,depth,sharpness, color gamut. It has nothing to do with setting we can change at the moment from what I can find. It's driving me crazy how off it is. I thought I had a lemon of a display or something. Someone in another said he checked on multiple s23u and they all had the same look
coming from iphone14pro max.
its way more better then it ever was on iphone.
its my first androidphone since galaxy s3.
vnmlike said:
coming from iphone14pro max.
its way more better then it ever was on iphone.
its my first androidphone since galaxy s3.
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Yes , but most people here are comparing it to other Samsung devices which used to have more saturated colors , but iPhone have always ben washed out since start , so you should see it as an upgrade switching to S23 , but from Samsung to Samsung you will feel a little bit downgraded
but what actually happened is Samsung decided to go for a more accurate and natural colors instead of punchier vibrant colors as before
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Hello,
Have since 03.02.2023 the s23 ultra. I noticed the first time that the colors are not quite as good. I then compared it with my s21 ultra and indeed the colors of the s23 ultra are not as color intensive. They shine less. Have made the same settings on both smartphones.
Unfortunately, this can not be captured on pictures very well. If you look at the picture from a YouTuber, you can see what I mean in the blue area.
Has no one noticed this yet?
Best regards
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This is the first thing I also noticed. I've already mentioned this on forums, I thought that my phone was defective, so I wanted to return, and then i went to local shops and saw that all s23u's are the same...
Looks great to me in natural. I hate the blown out over saturated colors that Samsung used to use. I think it looks better than my S22U did.
I remember going from an LG G3 to an S7E and was like, my god these colors are oversaturated. LOL. I came to kind of like it that way, but still recognized it's not particularly "accurate" compared to some of the less vibrant displays from other manufacturers. Compared to my S20+ it doesn't seem much different. The actual display panel and technology seems much improved, but the colors seem very similar.
The adapting to lighting conditions seems to be key. Sometimes the screen looks great, and others it's way too warm or cold. Could it be a new polarizing filter? It does seem better after the recent update, but still is not as vibrant or as consistent as the S22U.
S23U have great screen but default have more natural colors compare to previous models. Color vibrant can be change.
For me this is good change, more eyes friendly
My s23 ultra has a slight red tint in the middle.. anyone else?
i did notice that it changes based on where i am or time of day - sometimes it can be quite punchy and contrasty others is quite washed - you can esp notice it in the greys/whites etc
i think it is this self adapting tech
doesnt bother me to death but yea its happening
I noticed this coming from an S22U as well. Viewing angles are poorer -- when you tilt the phone slightly downwards there's a green hue that appears quickly at the bottom. I sold and rebought like four to five sets and they all had the same "issue" too to varying extents.
Partly as a result of this I feel that colour uniformity is not as good on the S23U. On a pure white background, I feel that there are certain parts of the screen that have a different tint from the other parts. This was also apparent in most of the sets I sold and rebought.
My first S23 Ultra also had a "Mura" pattern near the status bar as though the status bar icons were burnt in. I guess they loosened quality control this year because the last time I had issues with the screen was the Galaxy S6
I hope it won't be offtopic if I mention base S23 (not ultra). So I had the impression that the color reproduction was a bit below my expectations. What's funny - standard wallpapers are great to present this problem, it's a really good benchmark.
So I set the blue planet (attached) as a wallpaper/lock screen on two phones, my old S20 FE 5G and new S23. On S23 gradients are not smooth. Period. It's enough to tell if the panel has good color reproduction or not. Same wallpaper on S20 FE 5G looks better (S23 has worse color reproduction). I don't have a third phone to take a photo of how it looks.
Ps. one minor thing to notice; when I wake up screens, both displays perform comparable and in both cases gradients on wallpapers do not look smooth, but after unlocking phones it changes. S20 FE 5G seems to render nicer colors and gradients become smooth. On S23 though, gradients are still not smooth (looks like color palette limitation or something). So I don't have a clue if this is hardware or software issue. I have only few days to decide if I return S23 or keep it.
Pss. I checked the webp file and it's perfectly fine, it looks super nice on my MacBook or my external display.
I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
S20 FE 5G Sample A Sample B
S23 Ultra Sample A Sample B
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I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
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Install goodlock/camera assistant.
Turn on soft pic medium
Turn off scene optimizer
Or use GCAM
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Install goodlock/camera assistant.
Turn on soft pic medium
Turn off scene optimizer
Or use GCAM
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Yes on 1 and 2
Hard no on 3
After installing several versions of GCAM and doing side by side shots I have concluded that there is absolutely nothing you can get with GCAM that you can't get with stock.
Part of the problem is that if you set your screen to vivid the images will looks positively horrendous, particularly saturated blue colors. You need to tweek the white balance as suggested in another recent thread, which heavily desaturates blues and somewhat desaturates reds. You can also adjust saturation, shadows, etc additionally in pro mode.
Have you tried the high efficiency pictures option? It saves pictures in HEIF instead of JPEG, maybe it'll help?
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Yes on 1 and 2
Hard no on 3
After installing several versions of GCAM and doing side by side shots I have concluded that there is absolutely nothing you can get with GCAM that you can't get with stock.
Part of the problem is that if you set your screen to vivid the images will looks positively horrendous, particularly saturated blue colors. You need to tweek the white balance as suggested in another recent thread, which heavily desaturates blues and somewhat desaturates reds. You can also adjust saturation, shadows, etc additionally in pro mode.
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Go back some posts/pageand fibd my gcam vs stock post
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I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
S20 FE 5G Sample A Sample B
S23 Ultra Sample A Sample B
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The focus should be done to the same point, is not the case for Samples A, and you should share what is the complete camera configuration including the Camera Assistant.
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Any specific one? There are multiple threads on this topic. This one?
Image quality not great
Took pictures of red roses I bought for my wife. They are pink. My old Note 10 reproduce color perfectly. Not sure how much I am loving this new phone. Anyone else notice this?
forum.xda-developers.com
As mentioned I have found it possible to reproduce the "more natural" GCAM results by tweaking down saturation, shadows, and brightness a few clicks in pro mode. Don't see a reason to futz with GCAM at the moment but open to changing my mind.
Speaking of which, why did Samsung decide to brighten the shadows when you move the slider to the left? Literally every other piece of software brightens shadows when you slide to the right.
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Did another test today with both GCAM and LCM and I still can't find a reason to use anything other than tweaked stock. The images below are of the corner of my couch, the blanket on the right is neutral gray, the couch itself is typical dark leather color with no orange overtones. First image is tuned stock, second is GCAM, third is LCM. Stock is BY FAR the most muted and faithful color reproduction.
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Did another test today with both GCAM and LCM and I still can't find a reason to use anything other than tweaked stock. The images below are of the corner of my couch, the blanket on the right is neutral gray, the couch itself is typical dark leather color with no orange overtones. First image is tuned stock, second is GCAM, third is LCM. Stock is BY FAR the most muted and faithful color reproduction.
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Listen dude, colors are a preference thing and they can be tuned. Artifacts, noise, details. sharpness, textures are much harder to get from the stock camera phone, even with the tweaks that i suggested.
There is not a single stock phone that can beat gcam in overall output, sure the phone at stock can have a bit more accurate colors, a bit better white balance, and so on, maybe even main video or portrait shots, but thats it, everything else will favor GCAM.
Share you settings from the xml/apk you use, and tell me what do you want to improve, i will help you fix it.
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Artifacts, noise, details. sharpness, textures are much harder to get from the stock camera phone, even with the tweaks that i suggested.
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Its ok if you enjoy twaeking GCAM but regarding what you wrote about stock, that is not true and I demostrated it in a picture I posted before from S22U, GCAM use is a none sense with this phone.
Share in this post your best XML for GCAM you have and I will do a test between the two.
citytrader said:
Its ok if you enjoy twaeking GCAM but regarding what you wrote about stock, that is not true and I demostrated it in a picture I posted before from S22U, GCAM use is a none sense with this phone.
Share in this post your best XML for GCAM you have and I will do a test between the two.
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In low light hdr/high contrast scene the stock camera is very bad. Colors are preference and can be tweaked.
dazed1 said:
In low light hdr/high contrast scene the stock camera is very bad. Colors are preference and can be tweaked.
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You write a lot but I don't see you sharing the files for testing GCAM...
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You write a lot but I don't see you sharing the files for testing GCAM...
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Example, very low light scene
Let me guess, now you will claim the stock is good and better right?
Stock camera, 1/4 shutter speed, night mode, 5 sec (maximum exposure)
GCAM 1/3 shutter speed, night mode
This why GCAM is a none sense.
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This why GCAM is a none sense.
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Your picture is a great example of why GCAM has so much sense. First of all, looks more natural than the other three, but...
I took your comparison and just pushed the sharpness on the GCAM to the level of others and voila, it has more details than the other 3. You can sharpen them as much as you want, but the detail will not be there. Samsung is just applying so much sharpening, that as long as you are not looking at pictures on something better than the smartphone screen or not zooming, it can look fine. GCAM gives you flexibility, by far more natural look, and more details, but not pushing unnecessary sharpness to some crazy levels.
I'm playing with my S23 Ultra for 2 weeks now, and it can sometimes give good results in 50Mpix ExpertRAW, but GCAM is just more reliable. Every time I snap a picture it looks the same, with no halos, artifacts, etc. With the Stock app, it is not the case. Over processing is just ridiculous. And most annoying part is that it, unfortunately, happens in ExpertRAWs as well. On top of that, seems like the process is not being applied in the same way for each of the photo parts. Look at this comparison of the iPhone 14 PRO RAW 48 Mpix (left) and S23 Ultra ExpertRAW 50 Mpix (right).
Look at the center of the picture. For Samsung, the details of the wooden structure are gone. This part of the picture has very strong Noise Reduction applied. Looks just ugly. And then below that block and above, you have parts, that are being processed in another way round - over sharpened. For both pictures, sliders for noise reduction and sharpening are at a minimum. So this is the main reason for using GCAM and not stock software in Samsung.
That said, it is sad that Samsung cannot make processing better, because this sensor has so much potential!
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Your picture is a great example of why GCAM has so much sense. First of all, looks more natural than the other three, but...
I took your comparison and just pushed the sharpness on the GCAM to the level of others and voila, it has more details than the other 3. You can sharpen them as much as you want, but the detail will not be there. Samsung is just applying so much sharpening, that as long as you are not looking at pictures on something better than the smartphone screen or not zooming, it can look fine. GCAM gives you flexibility, by far more natural look, and more details, but not pushing unnecessary sharpness to some crazy levels.
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I will do the test again because I didn't pay attention of the white part of the picture loosing details with PRO RAW, with GCAM there is an issue that you have and prevented me to sharpen the pictures, take a look at the irregularities that appears from GCAM, I don't know if that could be solved. (Horizontal lines and some kind of grids that are not present in the real picture)
Currently I agree with you with the stock cam, is a hit an miss in the results... we need a more refined firmware.
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I will do the test again because I didn't pay attention of the white part of the picture loosing details with PRO RAW, with GCAM there is an issue that you have and prevented me to sharpen the pictures, take a look at the irregularities that appears from GCAM, I don't know if that could be solved. (Horizontal lines and some kind of grids that are not present in the real picture)
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Currently I agree with you with the stock cam, is a hit an miss in the results... we need a more refined firmware.
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It Look like artefacts from resizing. For me it is miss for most of the time. If I do not resize the image it ok i woudl say, but only the. If light conditions are perfect, then 50 mix from expert raw is ok and can have more details than gcam. But if there is no enough light, then i was not able to produce anyrhing that is even close to results from gcam. Pictures from stock app and camera raws are very inconsistent. Like I can have picture where in some places I have oversharpened result, while just few pixel in any dirextion from there there is a spot with no details at all because of the noise reduction. I hope that samsung will do something about it. Here is a link to the example of what I am talking about: Post in thread 'Working GCAM for S23 Ultra' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88226029
All this reminds me of S20 Ultra when the 108MP sensor was first introduced. Took more than 6 months to tune the software for it.
I'm bracing for the same bumpy ride here....the current images we are getting are beta quality.