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I am looking to buy a tablet and I found a 32gb version of the Tablet Z for $100. Is this tablet still worth buying?
I know it has better specs than some of the newer cheaper tablets but just want to see what people's experiences are. Thanks
I have one and use it all the time. For $100, I don't think you could go wrong. I use mine for studying, and watching YouTube mostly and will occasionally use chrome remote desktop to log in to my laptop at home. Have never had any issues with it that a reboot didn't clear up and I only reboot once ever few months. Hope this helps.
Huckleberry Friend said:
I have one and use it all the time. For $100, I don't think you could go wrong. I use mine for studying, and watching YouTube mostly and will occasionally use chrome remote desktop to log in to my laptop at home. Have never had any issues with it that a reboot didn't clear up and I only reboot once ever few months. Hope this helps.
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cool. thanks. I went ahead and bought it.. Nice tablet but now just trying to figure out how to flash the TWRP recovery to fota and boot to it.
jhcomputerguy said:
cool. thanks. I went ahead and bought it.. Nice tablet but now just trying to figure out how to flash the TWRP recovery to fota and boot to it.
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Why not just stick with stock? I've tried many custom ROMs during my "flashaholic" days - but have always ended up back at stock because :
most of the custom ROMs have issues
some apps won't work if your tablet is rooted
Still enjoying my Tablet Z after 4 years of ownership :good:
I can't justify buying something newer.
Why root?
I have to agree with Greta, I see no reason to root. Everything just works as is with no problems. From the research I did about rooting this particular device, there just wasn't enough of a gain by doing so. Hope you enjoy it.
Huckleberry Friend said:
I have to agree with Greta, I see no reason to root. Everything just works as is with no problems. From the research I did about rooting this particular device, there just wasn't enough of a gain by doing so. Hope you enjoy it.[/QUOTE
Really just want to put nougat on there are be able to overclock. This is a nice tablet but it does have some lag on some games and processes.
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Nougat is really nice on this tablet. I recommend the LineageOS rom from this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/general/rom-cyanogenmod-14-t3496758
I have no issues and with it and it's fast, I also get insane battery life with standby being especially is impressive.
randomhkkid said:
Nougat is really nice on this tablet. I recommend the LineageOS rom from this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/general/rom-cyanogenmod-14-t3496758
I have no issues and with it and it's fast, I also get insane battery life with standby being especially is impressive.
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Yep!
All firmwares, based on 7.1.x Nougar, are very smooth and responsive. So highly recommended.
jhcomputerguy said:
Huckleberry Friend said:
I have to agree with Greta, I see no reason to root. Everything just works as is with no problems. From the research I did about rooting this particular device, there just wasn't enough of a gain by doing so. Hope you enjoy it.[/QUOTE
Really just want to put nougat on there are be able to overclock. This is a nice tablet but it does have some lag on some games and processes.
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Nougat is really great on this tablet. I really appreciate the multi window feature. It's fully functional.
I agree with you, underclocking / overclocking feature would probably help in some case.
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Broke mine...?
schastang said:
jhcomputerguy said:
Nougat is really great on this tablet. I really appreciate the multi window feature. It's fully functional.
I agree with you, underclocking / overclocking feature would probably help in some case.
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Glad to hear it is working out well for you. I dropped mine anout a month ago and it is toast. I took it apart and tried selling stuff like the camera and ports online but nobody wanted them. I hate seeing things go to waste and was practically giving them away. Did you get a dock with yours? I have one of those, too. May try to ebay it along with the spare parts and the smart cover.
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I'm also thinking of buying an used SGP311 and running the latest LineageOS on it. Does anyone with SGP311 have problems playing Clash Royale?
I have a Samsung SM-T320 running Kitkat 4.4.2 with Clash Royale and no problems. If I try SlimKat 4.4.4, LineageOS 13/14, CM 11/12, etc they ALL crash/reboot with Clash Royale. Only stock works with Clash Royale on the SM-T320.
The SGP311 uses Adreno 320 GPU and the SM-320 uses the Adreno 330 GPU. I'm just worried that whatever problem in Slimrom, LineageOS, CM, etc that causes Clash Royale to crash/reboot tablet might be related to the Adreno GPU drivers/code.
If you're into streaming services there is a thing that you should know: The Xperia Tablet Z has Google Widevine L3 DRM, that means that Netflix will NOT play HD movies, even with the most expensive subscription. Netflix needs Widevine L1, which you dont get with this device, even with an up-to-date OS installed. I dont know how this is with Amazon Prime.
EDIT: The SoC of this tablet does not suppert 60fps video streaming. This means that YouTube videos with 60 fps have a lot of stuttering. 60fps Twitch streams dont play the video at all, you can only hear the audio.
julius1504 said:
If you're into streaming services there is a thing that you should know: The Xperia Tablet Z has Google Widevine L3 DRM, that means that Netflix will NOT play HD movies, even with the most expensive subscription. Netflix needs Widevine L1, which you dont get with this device, even with an up-to-date OS installed. I dont know how this is with Amazon Prime.
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As far as i remember Google Widevine DRM was ported to custom firmwares based on android 7.1.2 and probably 8.1. You'd better check them.
Rootk1t said:
As far as i remember Google Widevine DRM was ported to custom firmwares based on android 7.1.2 and probably 8.1. You'd better check them.
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I have Resurrection Remix 6.0 with Android 8.1 installed. No chance.
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I have Resurrection Remix 6.0 with Android 8.1 installed. No chance.
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Yep, you're right. Widevine L1 support is not available, and i think it will never be.
I'm really interested in getting this phone, I have skipped the Note 8 until I see what this phone brings, and from what I saw at the presentation I looks like an AWESOME phone, but when I look at past Huawei flagships (mate 9, P9, etc) almost non-existing major updates, custom roms support and mods I start thinking if paying a premium price for a phone like this its really worth for a person like me who likes to play around with rooting, modding and installing custom roms in my devices or should I play safe and get a Samsung or Pixel device.
No. Do not buy Huawei if modding is important.
Non existent with previous mate 9 and barely with mate 8.
Across the board, it's not getting easier
intruda119 said:
No. Do not buy Huawei if modding is important.
Non existent with previous mate 9 and barely with mate 8.
Across the board, it's not getting easier
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I appreciate your answer, there are great devices but not for us.
yael20 said:
I'm really interested in getting this phone, I have skipped the Note 8 until I see what this phone brings, and from what I saw at the presentation I looks like an AWESOME phone, but when I look at past Huawei flagships (mate 9, P9, etc) almost non-existing major updates, custom roms support and mods I start thinking if paying a premium price for a phone like this its really worth for a person like me who likes to play around with rooting, modding and installing custom roms in my devices or should I play safe and get a Samsung or Pixel device.
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To be honest you are better off not getting any flagship if you like modding. The pixel is a pain to dev for to the point that many devs are not getting the new pixel or even supporting it. Samsung well we all know that dev support for that is a joke.
zelendel said:
To be honest you are better off not getting any flagship if you like modding. The pixel is a pain to dev for to the point that many devs are not getting the new pixel or even supporting it. Samsung well we all know that dev support for that is a joke.
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Thanks for your answer, so that being the case, which phone(s) would you recommend me?
yael20 said:
Thanks for your answer, so that being the case, which phone(s) would you recommend me?
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If modding is your thing then I would look at something like one plus. Things to avoid are devices with dual partition setup. The pixel showed how much devs dont want to deal with that.
Things to look out for are things like kernel source being up to date which I hate to say knocks 90% of the China based OEM out of it. Maybe the Euro version of samsung devices might be OK but even they get little to no real devs support. I would look around the site. See what devices have real support. No I am not talking about tons of los based roms. That is not development. I mean real development with system mods and hardware tweaks.
zelendel said:
If modding is your thing then I would look at something like one plus.
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Unfortunately OnePlus sucks at many things that are important for many of us so I guess we don't have a choice.
zadox said:
Unfortunately OnePlus sucks at many things that are important for many of us so I guess we don't have a choice.
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Things like what? The one bonus is that with one plus it can be fixed for the most part as to where even the kernel code on huawei devices is useless.
zelendel said:
Things like what? The one bonus is that with one plus it can be fixed for the most part as to where even the kernel code on huawei devices is useless.
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Can we start with the MicroSD ?
zadox said:
Can we start with the MicroSD ?
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This I agree with but many of the OEM are opting out of sdcards ever since google removed all the code fore native sdcard support from android years ago. But to be hones 64gb is more then enough for a mobile device. Mix that with some common sense (backing up stuff. No I dont mean cloud backup lol)
zadox said:
Unfortunately OnePlus sucks at many things that are important for many of us so I guess we don't have a choice.
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I think the one plus is a good device with great specs, but I don't like it's design... May be due it's Iphoneish look lol
zelendel said:
To be honest you are better off not getting any flagship if you like modding. The pixel is a pain to dev for to the point that many devs are not getting the new pixel or even supporting it. Samsung well we all know that dev support for that is a joke.
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Why not? You can get systemless root (Exynos) or TWRP installed classic root (Snapdragon) for Note8.
Sure Knox and/or SafetyNet gets tripped, but that's the price to pay for rooting.
But you can root current flagship phones and there's plenty of modding community for Note8.
vasra said:
Why not? You can get systemless root (Exynos) or TWRP installed classic root (Snapdragon) for Note8.
Sure Knox and/or SafetyNet gets tripped, but that's the price to pay for rooting.
But you can root current flagship phones and there's plenty of modding community for Note8.
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Samsung based roms are not development. Samsung devices have sucked for development for years. This is why main stream developers don't get that device.
Ok, thanks for the info. I haven't followed the scene. Just installed a good LO fork on my Note3 and it is working wonders (sans NFC and GPS/camera performance is generic).
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To be honest you are better off not getting any flagship if you like modding. The pixel is a pain to dev for to the point that many devs are not getting the new pixel or even supporting it. Samsung well we all know that dev support for that is a joke.
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That being said , what are 3 phones that you can say "this is a good phone, and I can do all lot of things with it("? is the nexus 6p one of them? thanks for your help.
yael20 said:
That being said , what are 3 phones that you can say "this is a good phone, and I can do all lot of things with it("? is the nexus 6p one of them? thanks for your help.
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Yes. The 6p (minus the battery issues) is good for rom development. It will get support from 3rd parties for at least another 2 years.
I would say the one plus 3 or 3t
The nexus 6p
Any one of the Sony devices as they have a good development setup.
yael20 said:
I'm really interested in getting this phone, I have skipped the Note 8 until I see what this phone brings, and from what I saw at the presentation I looks like an AWESOME phone, but when I look at past Huawei flagships (mate 9, P9, etc) almost non-existing major updates, custom roms support and mods I start thinking if paying a premium price for a phone like this its really worth for a person like me who likes to play around with rooting, modding and installing custom roms in my devices or should I play safe and get a Samsung or Pixel device.
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@auras76 (confirmed via private message that he will be supporting Mate 10 and continue his awesome rom that he has for Mate 9 ->[ROM] RomAur-v2.2-[16/10]-[UB][7.0_Fw.b197]-FAST-STABLE :good:
yael20 said:
I think the one plus is a good device with great specs, but I don't like it's design... May be due it's Iphoneish look lol
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Problem with OP (I switched from OP5 to IP7+ just recently because I kept hearing rumors that OP5T/OP6 might come out and I was afraid the value might drop to a point where re-sale value is no longer profitable..IP7+ is awesome in many ways, but my initial goal was getting LG V30 but now it seems Mate 10 is much wiser choice because of its awesome screen to body ratio + 16:9 aspect ratio which currently IMO is way better than 18:9/18:9.5 considering full app support, including youtube and so on) is that it does not have its own identity - its basically an iphone clone design wise and with it you look like a wannabe iphone user . Its awesome in performance but that identity thing sucks + they recent actions where they discontinue a model even before 6 month span is just plain ridiculous (OP3 to OP3T and then OP3T to OP5 all done within 1 year)..
zelendel said:
Yes. The 6p (minus the battery issues) is good for rom development. It will get support from 3rd parties for at least another 2 years.
I would say the one plus 3 or 3t
The nexus 6p
Any one of the Sony devices as they have a good development setup.
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Sony is bad in development because their stupid DRM system.
El Solido said:
Sony is bad in development because their stupid DRM system.
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Tell that to the fact that they offer how to build aosp for their devices, have worked with developers on it as well as pretty much made the theme engine that susbstratum works off of.
Will there be loses. Sure but that is the difference between aosp and using code made for the device. You don't always get all the features of the device with aosp. But that is not the point of using aosp. It's to learn.
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Tell that to the fact that they offer how to build aosp for their devices, have worked with developers on it as well as pretty much made the theme engine that susbstratum works off of.
Will there be loses. Sure but that is the difference between aosp and using code made for the device. You don't always get all the features of the device with aosp. But that is not the point of using aosp. It's to learn.
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Yes, but with sony aosp you get 13% quality of camera comparing it to stock, so they are stupid.
I'm currently running Lineage OS rooted and I'm wondering if there's a way to enable support for Daydream VR apps. As far as I know it's simply a softlock and there are phones out there with slower SoC's that support it, only thing that's different is that the Pocophone doesn't have an OLED, which I personally don't really care about. Is there a way? It's already working great with cardboard VR apps.
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I'm currently running Lineage OS rooted and I'm wondering if there's a way to enable support for Daydream VR apps. As far as I know it's simply a softlock and there are phones out there with slower SoC's that support it, only thing that's different is that the Pocophone doesn't have an OLED, which I personally don't really care about. Is there a way? It's already working great with cardboard VR apps.
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Try this:
https://m.vrheads.com/how-manually-enable-daydream-phones-google-has-not-approved
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Try this:
https://m.vrheads.com/how-manually-enable-daydream-phones-google-has-not-approved
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It said to edit a file called "handheld_core_hardware.xml" but I don't have that file in there.
JeffPotatoBubble said:
It said to edit a file called "handheld_core_hardware.xml" but I don't have that file in there.
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that file is in vendor/etc/permissions
I love my old Google Nexus S. It has a fantastic screen and I'd love to hang on to it, but have watched it become slower and slower with the Android updates. I guess I'm happy running Jellybean on it, but is there a decent Android version which will restore it to its original speed?
Nethunter maybe
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Nethunter maybe
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Isn't that for pen testing though?
The latest version of YouTube for Android Gingerbread 2.3.6 is 5.5.30. But it no longer works. Can anyone patch it for it to work? (You can use the latest YouTube for reference)
YouTube 5.5.30 APK: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...-release/youtube-5-5-30-android-apk-download/
Newest Version: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/youtube/
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The latest version of YouTube for Android Gingerbread 2.3.6 is 5.5.30. But it no longer works. Can anyone patch it for it to work? (You can use the latest YouTube for reference)
YouTube 5.5.30 APK: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...-release/youtube-5-5-30-android-apk-download/
Newest Version: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/youtube/
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We can't make it work by "patching it". The fact that the app doesn't work anymore is controlled server side AFAIK.
But maybe you can find an alternative YT player that's compatible with Gingerbread. Your post took me back man, I didn't know you could still use GB in 2020. Is it your daily driver ?
Raiz said:
We can't make it work by "patching it". The fact that the app doesn't work anymore is controlled server side AFAIK.
But maybe you can find an alternative YT player that's compatible with Gingerbread. Your post took me back man, I didn't know you could still use GB in 2020. Is it your daily driver ?
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Yes it really is my daily driver
Is there any alternative players that I can log in to my account?
I will install CM11 soon though.
SpaceChuck said:
Yes it really is my daily driver
Is there any alternative players that I can log in to my account?
I will install CM11 soon though.
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If you want to use modern apps, you need to get a newer device. Even if you could update your device to a newer android version, your hardware is too old for most modern apps and services, your device would really be too slow to effectively use most modern apps. It is time for you to upgrade to some kind of device that has at least android 5 or 6 installed on it. Your device is so old and so far behind that I'm surprised it even works with anything available today. I still have my older devices but most of them can no longer effectively use apps from today.
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If you want to use modern apps, you need to get a newer device. Even if you could update your device to a newer android version, your hardware is too old for most modern apps and services, your device would really be too slow to effectively use most modern apps. It is time for you to upgrade to some kind of device that has at least android 5 or 6 installed on it. Your device is so old and so far behind that I'm surprised it even works with anything available today. I still have my older devices but most of them can no longer effectively use apps from today.
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Ehhh, it depends on the person, I made do with a galaxy ace gt-s5830 in 2018, a single core 800mhz phone with more ram than storage "256mb to be exact" but even with a pretty bloated install of 4.4.2 it was fine, loading was slow but when it got going it was perfectly cromulent for surfing the net and light gaming, I'd say a galaxy s gt-i9000 with omni 5.1.1 is the oldest you can go with gapps and decent app support, its slow but it works without too much struggle
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Ehhh, it depends on the person, I made do with a galaxy ace gt-s5830 in 2018, a single core 800mhz phone with more ram than storage "256mb to be exact" but even with a pretty bloated install of 4.4.2 it was fine, loading was slow but when it got going it was perfectly cromulent for surfing the net and light gaming, I'd say a galaxy s gt-i9000 with omni 5.1.1 is the oldest you can go with gapps and decent app support, its slow but it works without too much struggle
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An older device like that using ROMs from 2018 isn't comparison to older devices like that using ROMs from today. You actually made my point for me, though. I said older devices using newer ROMs are too slow to "effectively" use newer ROMs, which, is true. They "work" but they are very slow, too slow for anyone except someone who can't afford a better device or someone that chooses to make do with less.