Question Samsung removed clear cache option. Why? - Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

Years ago, the “Device maintenance” section of Samsung TouchWiz settings had an option to clear the cache of all apps in one click, in addition to the option in the "Apps" section to do so for each app individually. Currently, One UI only has the option to do it for each app separately. The "Device care" storage section doesn't have the first (and more convenient) option anymore.
Why?

I clear my S23U cache using recovery option.

On my N10+/Pie I still have the old Device Care with 360° (firewall blocked) but it can't clean individual app caches.
SD Maid Pro does a good cleaning job, I use this along with Device Care and clearing the system cache about once a month. That's mostly all the maintenance I have to do. This load will be 3 yo in June, still running fast and stable.
My S4+/Kitkat Touchwiz had nothing at all for that in the firmware.

blackhawk said:
but it can't clean individual app caches.
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Again, individual apps can be cleaned in the "Apps" section in settings. But the "Device maintenance" (in TouchWiz) allowed it to be done in one click. Now, "Device care" in One UI lacks that option.
mzsquared said:
I clear my S23U cache using recovery option.
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That's the system partition cache. I'm not talking about that.

xda-eh said:
Years ago, the “Device maintenance” section of Samsung TouchWiz settings had an option to clear the cache of all apps in one click, in addition to the option in the "Apps" section to do so for each app individually. Currently, One UI only has the option to do it for each app separately. The "Device care" storage section doesn't have the first (and more convenient) option anymore.
Why?
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I miss this function too. Sometimes a lot of space are in the ass and now like you I need to do it one by one...

It was an Android function, not specific a Samsung function. Therefore Google removed it, not Samsung...

OnnoJ said:
It was an Android function, not specific a Samsung function. Therefore Google removed it, not Samsung...
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Android Assistant free on Google Play Store does the same job

I use SD Maid for this, and the other tasks it carries out.

jinky67 said:
Android Assistant free on Google Play Store does the same job
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... and possibly a lot of other things on the side.
Security-wise that app is no option with all it's required permissions, while reportedly triggering malware reports...
Add to this that many comments in Play store indicate the app is not working as advertised.

Isn't that what Memory Guardian (part of the Good Guardian package on Galaxy Store) is for ?

s3axel said:
Isn't that what Memory Guardian (part of the Good Guardian package on Galaxy Store) is for ?
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Memory guardian deals with memory, not storage. It does not clear caches...

I thought the "Optimize" button automatically does this including looking for apps constantly crashing, closing apps running in the background and looking for abnormal battery usage.

cledee said:
I thought the "Optimize" button automatically does this including looking for apps constantly crashing, closing apps running in the background and looking for abnormal battery usage.
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Cleans the system logs which is useful but not the app caches.

According to this Samsung support, the only way to do it for all apps is to perform a factory reset. I guess it's also possible on a 3rd party app which is the better route than doing a factory reset.
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cledee said:
According to this Samsung support, the only way to do it for all apps is to perform a factory reset. I guess it's also possible on a 3rd party app which is the better route than doing a factory reset.
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Lol, their cure for everything with their world class inept tech support
Been using SD Maid pro for 3 years and it works very well. Does this and more, helps to keep the system running fast. Zero damage to files or apps, just be careful if you alter the default settings or delete duplicate files (not recommended).
This load will be 3 yo in June, still running like a bat out of hell.
Samsung improved Good Guardians Galaxy App Booster which runs fast and well now. It sped up SD Maid's cache clearing noticably for me. Didn't cause any harm.
Other than policing apps for misbehavior and resolving any issue that may arise, doing the above and clearing the system cache will keep a load running well for years. No stinking factory reset needed if you do this and DO NOT upgrade/update the firmware.

cledee said:
According to this Samsung support, the only way to do it for all apps is to perform a factory reset. I guess it's also possible on a 3rd party app which is the better route than doing a factory reset.
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It can be done via recovery no need to do factory reset

hoss_n2 said:
It can be done via recovery no need to do factory reset
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That's the system cache not the individual app caches!

blackhawk said:
Lol, their cure for everything with their world class inept tech support
Been using SD Maid pro for 3 years and it works very well. Does this and more, helps to keep the system running fast. Zero damage to files or apps, just be careful if you alter the default settings or delete duplicate files (not recommended).
This load will be 3 yo in June, still running like a bat out of hell.
Samsung improved Good Guardians Galaxy App Booster which runs fast and well now. It sped up SD Maid's cache clearing noticably for me. Didn't cause any harm.
Other than policing apps for misbehavior and resolving any issue that may arise, doing the above and clearing the system cache will keep a load running well for years. No stinking factory reset needed if you do this and DO NOT upgrade/update the firmware.
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You are the only person in universe that is against software updates, dunno why but You've been saying that for years

hoss_n2 said:
You are the only person in universe that is against software updates, dunno why but You've been saying that for years
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Because I have virtually zero issues, no malware and loads of playtime because of this. This device continues to fulfill its mission rather then waste my time and that's the only thing that counts.
It really sucks You can do what you want... I use whatever works and comes in handy.

hoss_n2 said:
It can be done via recovery no need to do factory reset
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That's the system partition cache. We're not talking about that here. We're discussing app caches.
The two should not be confused.

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Task manager

What's your opinions on task managers? Advanced Task Killer the best? The built in one? Just curious what the general concensus was.
You don't need one, the phone does this plenty fine by itself
yoderk said:
You don't need one, the phone does this plenty fine by itself
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Not sure if this is indicative of me being too untrusting, but it seems that if I check either the built in task manager or Advanced task Killer, I always have about 30 apps running. I kill them and about 30 minutes later they are all running again. Apps that I don't or am not using (maps comes to mind).
According to Lifehacker in quite a few places (I can't post links because I'm new here, but search Google), they aren't worth your while. I use Watchdog to keep track of my CPU usage.
if you must.. use the one built in. Otherwise they are highly advised against. For that very same reason. You kill 30 apps and they come right back. Once in awhile I will check the built in task manager- its usually stays accurate maybe 1 or two apps running like xda or browser, but most of the time my apps behave.
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I use Autostarts.
It's not a task manager as it doesn't kill the app right away but it helps to disable the app from autostarting everytime.
Don't you wonder why is BLOOD AND GLORY running in the background when you haven't even opened it.
I hate games and apps doing background stuff when I don't need them.
LBE plus Autostarts is my combo.
LBE to disable access to apps from my personal data and autostarts to manage when apps should run.
Games should run when opened, not background data mining.
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I use Autostarts.
It's not a task manager as it doesn't kill the app right away but it helps to disable the app from autostarting everytime.
Don't you wonder why is BLOOD AND GLORY running in the background when you haven't even opened it.
I hate games and apps doing background stuff when I don't need them.
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I should look into Autostarts, I barely play that game maybe once a week so I usually freeze it after I am done playing. Lol
Same thing happens with a few other games...
That is the only thing I do not like is background games/apps that do not need to be running since I have yet to open nor plan to and are sitting there doing who knows what.
Was always looking for a "msconfig" type thing for android.
I like the built in one....i wouldn't use any other.
I just is the built in one.....mainly to kill fb if i don't back out. It rapes cpu when you aren't using it
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stalked_r/t said:
Not sure if this is indicative of me being too untrusting, but it seems that if I check either the built in task manager or Advanced task Killer, I always have about 30 apps running. I kill them and about 30 minutes later they are all running again. Apps that I don't or am not using (maps comes to mind).
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thats the way Android works. It doesnt mean those apps are actually running, it just means Android allocated memory for those apps but it will remove it if it needs that memory space. Dont kill it ... you're creating extra work because Android will just reallocate that memory space again.
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thats the way Android works. It doesnt mean those apps are actually running, it just means Android allocated memory for those apps but it will remove it if it needs that memory space. Dont kill it ... you're creating extra work because Android will just reallocate that memory space again.
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Ahhh. That makes more sense. Still a little new to android.
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I grabbed Autostarts and its awesome, had so many pointless events that I disabled.
This one in particular made no sense to me at all.
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Now I can get the games I been wanting to play but always get triggered for no reason and run in the background like Blood and Gory & Tap Tap Revenge.
+1 for Autostarts. Been using it since my Captivate days. More than well worth the 99¢ I paid for it back when.
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I grabbed Autostarts and its awesome, had so many pointless events that I disabled.
This one in particular made no sense to me at all.
Now I can get the games I been wanting to play but always get triggered for no reason and run in the background like Blood and Gory & Tap Tap Revenge.
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Wait I wouldn't be quick to judge these as useless. Autostarts lists all of the possible intents that the Android OS publishes. What you are seeing are lists of apps that are registered to receive certain intents. I like to imagine intents as flags that go up saying "hey something happened" and this lets apps know that something occurred.
I downloaded the app and read that com.google.googlenav.friend.reporting.LocationReportingIntentReceiver is registered to handle the action android.intent.action.BATTERY_LOW. What this is saying is that googlenav is registered to respond to the BATTERY_LOW flag. This could mean that the location reporting stops to save battery when the battery is low. Disabling this would mean that service will not stop and continue to report location.
This is only a guess as to how the locationreporting service works for googlenav but it's a great example of how Autostarts works and how you should be careful when using Autostarts.
Silenus21 said:
I use Autostarts.
It's not a task manager as it doesn't kill the app right away but it helps to disable the app from autostarting everytime.
Don't you wonder why is BLOOD AND GLORY running in the background when you haven't even opened it.
I hate games and apps doing background stuff when I don't need them.
LBE plus Autostarts is my combo.
LBE to disable access to apps from my personal data and autostarts to manage when apps should run.
Games should run when opened, not background data mining.
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Forgive my ignorance... But what is LBE?
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Sorry didn't see the thread.
Do a market search.
LBE Privacy guard.
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I second LBE Privacy Guard and Watchdog.. both great apps. LBE lets you decide what apps are allowed to do with your information and connections, so that even if one is running in the background, it can't accomplish anything you don't want it to. You can even choose whether an app is allowed to use cellular data, or just wifi. It's personally one of the most important apps on my phone, and it's never caused a problem with any of my 100+ apps.
Watchdog simply keeps an eye on all the running apps, and lets you know when one of them uses up more resources than you designate. It's basically the 'Gingerbread' version of task-killers, which are counter-productive with Gingerbread and newer versions of Android.
Android 2.3+ in itself does a great job managing apps in the foreground and background, but it's still reassuring to have an app keeping an eye on them just in case. Overall though, if you keep killing apps over & over, the OS just has to waste resources and battery life reloading them into the memory. Just because you see them running in the background doesn't mean they're actually active, just queued in case you decide to launch one.
Another great app for monitoring these apps is System Monitor. You can see exactly what apps are running in the background, as well as how much resources they're using. It even keeps a history (in the pro version) that lets you see your worst offenders over the last few hours/days/weeks etc.
zoso28 said:
I second LBE Privacy Guard and Watchdog.. both great apps. LBE lets you decide what apps are allowed to do with your information and connections, so that even if one is running in the background, it can't accomplish anything you don't want it to. You can even choose whether an app is allowed to use cellular data, or just wifi. It's personally one of the most important apps on my phone, and it's never caused a problem with any of my 100+ apps.
Watchdog simply keeps an eye on all the running apps, and lets you know when one of them uses up more resources than you designate. It's basically the 'Gingerbread' version of task-killers, which are counter-productive with Gingerbread and newer versions of Android.
Android 2.3+ in itself does a great job managing apps in the foreground and background, but it's still reassuring to have an app keeping an eye on them just in case. Overall though, if you keep killing apps over & over, the OS just has to waste resources and battery life reloading them into the memory. Just because you see them running in the background doesn't mean they're actually active, just queued in case you decide to launch one.
Another great app for monitoring these apps is System Monitor. You can see exactly what apps are running in the background, as well as how much resources they're using. It even keeps a history (in the pro version) that lets you see your worst offenders over the last few hours/days/weeks etc.
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Android already has built in system img mgmt. Configuring this does wonders on a device specific basis. I think common knowledge also indicates that mostly avoiding task killers might be preferred in most situations. For instance CM7 has a built in cache mgmt system. Others are available for use with Sammy ROM (Romtoolbox etc)
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Android already has built in system img mgmt. Configuring this does wonders on a device specific basis. I think common knowledge also indicates that mostly avoiding task killers might be preferred in most situations. For instance CM7 has a built in cache mgmt system. Others are available for use with Sammy ROM (Romtoolbox etc)
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Exactly...

Are ALL apps "running" at the same time in CM9?

I was getting some strange behaviour in CM9 after playing movies with MX player, and discovered that it could be resolved by forcing MX player to stop via the app settings menu. In the process I also discovered something I haven't seen before in any version of Android:
every single app on my touchpad had an active "force stop" button!
I realise that this does not necessarily mean they were running. However, it's the first time I've seen this and I'm curious as to the explanation. None of the apps had been manually started, and few of them are likely to have been started as a part of sync jobs etc.
Anyone know what's going on?
android opens up apps and stores them in the ram so when u click on them they open up faster. However there are some poorly developed apps that stay opened no matter what and hog memory.
staymunch said:
android opens up apps and stores them in the ram so when u click on them they open up faster. However there are some poorly developed apps that stay opened no matter what and hog memory.
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I may be misreading your post... are you saying android loads apps on its own volition and keeps them in RAM? Ie. even without the user starting them?
Let me clarify: all apps--even apps that were not started by me--had the "force stop" button active. Ie. they were all (apparently) pre-emptively loaded into memory. I didn't mean that I started all my apps one after the other and then discovered that they were still in RAM
I realise Android handles processes differently from Windows, but this is something I haven't seen with any froyo or gingerbread ROM. Hence my confusion
That's how android works (and linux), not just ICS. It "loads" apps to fill up it's ram so when you click on an app, it may not have to fully load it if it's already cached. Again, they are not "running", just cached. Unlike Windows, Linux uses all the RAM it can, as it's pointless to have say 500mb of ram free when it can fill that up with pre-loaded apps. This is exactly why task killers are a no-no, as when you kill apps, android sees that free RAM space and will just load those apps back, thus causing an endless cycle.
So basically, don't worry about it, let Android do its thing. The only reason you should ever "kill" or force close an app is if it's not responding.
Aight, I'll have to take your word for it... I was just baffled because I've never seen it in the other ROMS (ie. apps loaded before they were actually started by the user) Perhaps it's because there's more RAM to fill up on the touchpad, who knows.
sitlet said:
That's how android works (and linux), not just ICS. It "loads" apps to fill up it's ram so when you click on an app, it may not have to fully load it if it's already cached. Again, they are not "running", just cached. Unlike Windows, Linux uses all the RAM it can, as it's pointless to have say 500mb of ram free when it can fill that up with pre-loaded apps. This is exactly why task killers are a no-no, as when you kill apps, android sees that free RAM space and will just load those apps back, thus causing an endless cycle.
So basically, don't worry about it, let Android do its thing. The only reason you should ever "kill" or force close an app is if it's not responding.
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Uhm, not to be a jerk, but none of that is true.
stuffandcrap said:
Uhm, not to be a jerk, but none of that is true.
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umm not to be a jerk but umm yes it is. Now u go read!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6426198#post6426198
Ok, sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean, I just thought your post was very misleading.
So, I did read that link, and I still think you got the facts wrong.
First of all, managing memory in a way that you don't clean up after closed/idle processes is not the same as "pre-loading as many apps as it can to fill up the RAM"
So, a statement like this doesn't hold.
sitlet said:
as it's pointless to have say 500mb of ram free when it can fill that up with pre-loaded apps.
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No it's not. It would be pointless to go through the overhead of opening processes when they are not needed.
If you read again, you'll notice the article says "Android starts the process when any of the application's code needs to be executed", not "starts processes preemptively".
What Linux does is try to avoid deleting memory blocks unless they are required by a new process. If, as you said, it tried to keep RAM filled up at all times, the OS would be unusable.
Hope that makes sense.
It might also be important to note there is a difference between a service running, and the app running. For example Google Voice may have a service running to keep me updated regarding voicemails, but the app isn't running. In the running services I will see an entry for Google voice with an option to stop, but going to my apps and clicking force close on Google voice does not stop the service. I need to stop it from the running services menu, and if I do it pops right back. I see many services running, but I don't see many apps running, on mine.
As I understand it, apps will not resurrect themselves, but services will. I have also understood it that apps remain loaded in the RAM, after opened, but not of their own accord. RAM takes the same amount of battery full as it does empty. So clearing the app out of memory uses processor cycles, and then uses more to reopen the app later. The system is designed to operate at a certain capacity, and will free up RAM as needed. I have also heard experts say only poorly written apps stay running in the background unexpectedly. And that task killers should only be used for rouge apps.
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sitlet said:
That's how android works (and linux), not just ICS. It "loads" apps to fill up it's ram so when you click on an app, it may not have to fully load it if it's already cached. Again, they are not "running", just cached. Unlike Windows, Linux uses all the RAM it can, as it's pointless to have say 500mb of ram free when it can fill that up with pre-loaded apps. This is exactly why task killers are a no-no, as when you kill apps, android sees that free RAM space and will just load those apps back, thus causing an endless cycle.
So basically, don't worry about it, let Android do its thing. The only reason you should ever "kill" or force close an app is if it's not responding.
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Windows also caches RAM... According to my understanding Android doesn't do pre-caching like full desktop OSes do, rather it'll keep applications you've opened in memory as long as it can or until the OS feels it needs the RAM for some other operation.
Windows caching 3.6GB of my RAM
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there is a setting in developer options to limit the amount of background apps you want running if you don't want them all running
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Android OS high data usage

I did some research and my Google Backup is turned off. Still, Android OS is eating away at my bandwidth. 23 MB in 7 days is a lot of data. And I dont have a data package plan on my network so that 23 MB is actually costing me a lot of money.
How do I prevent Android OS from using up so much mobile data?
I am on CM 11 Temasek V48. With Googy Maxx kernel.
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I did some research and my Google Backup is turned off. Still, Android OS is eating away at my bandwidth. 23 MB in 7 days is a lot of data. And I dont have a data package plan on my network so that 23 MB is actually costing me a lot of money.
How do I prevent Android OS from using up so much mobile data?
I am on CM 11 Temasek V48. With Googy Maxx kernel.
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Switch background data off for android os
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Switch background data off for android os
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Its not possible to do that to Android OS.
The options isnt there.
Dun go inside. Just go to the general page of data usage and press menu. There shld be a restrict background usage or sth. And there's one thing I dun get. Why r u using 3G when u said u dun have it free?
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Dun go inside. Just go to the general page of data usage and press menu. There shld be a restrict background usage or sth. And there's one thing I dun get. Why r u using 3G when u said u dun have it free?
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Doing that restricts background data to all the apps. So, itd probably prevent me from getting my emails and messages. And these messages are the reason I'm using 3G even though I dont get it for free. (I leave it on 2G most of the time, until I decide to browse the web, then I switch it to 3G.)
Find the apps / process that are using data and freeze one by one with Titanium .
Check Mobile tracker first .
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Find the apps / process that are using data and freeze one by one with Titanium .
Check Mobile tracker first .
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The built in data usage too just says "Android OS". I cant really freeze that with titanium backup,
I am gonna try some different data tracker apps and see if they can give me any details.
Whats "Mobile tracker"?
incognitonk said:
The built in data usage too just says "Android OS". I cant really freeze that with titanium backup,
I am gonna try some different data tracker apps and see if they can give me any details.
Whats "Mobile tracker"?
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It will say what process if you double tap android os
JJEgan said:
It will say what process if you double tap android os
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No it doesnt. A single tap brings me to the page in the second screen cap I posted. I cant double tap it.
Possible solutions
incognitonk said:
No it doesnt. A single tap brings me to the page in the second screen cap I posted. I cant double tap it.
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1- Have you tried AFWall+ from the Play Store? It's a free firewall app that can restrict internet usage (wifi and/or cellular) by apps. You can select "All apps" under the WiFi column and enable the firewall. This will prevent any app from using your cellular (3g or gprs) data. Only your selected apps can access 3G/GPRS. You need root for this though.
or
2- You can simply turn off the Data from "Mobile Network" section. This way your phone will only use data if you have a wifi connection.
~ RazorMC
incognitonk said:
No it doesnt. A single tap brings me to the page in the second screen cap I posted. I cant double tap it.
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Yep looks like i hit android system when double tapping .
incognitonk said:
I did some research and my Google Backup is turned off. Still, Android OS is eating away at my bandwidth. 23 MB in 7 days is a lot of data. And I dont have a data package plan on my network so that 23 MB is actually costing me a lot of money.
How do I prevent Android OS from using up so much mobile data?
I am on CM 11 Temasek V48. With Googy Maxx kernel.
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I faced the same problem, issue was somewhat with auto backup of data, sync of app data & people details in google account,
BUT the main culprit in my case was uTorrent application.
Even though there was no torrent added to it, i didn't even opened it,
it was using 1GB data daily on WiFi and in data usage it was coming under Android OS usage. I uninstalled it, everything went back to normal.
So try to look for such apps which eat up your data in background, it may not be an error of android OS as such.
Hope this helps, Press THANKS if it did help you
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KaaliRaat said:
I faced the same problem, issue was somewhat with auto backup of data, sync of app data & people details in google account,
BUT the main culprit in my case was uTorrent application.
Even though there was no torrent added to it, i didn't even opened it,
it was using 1GB data daily on WiFi and in data usage it was coming under Android OS usage. I uninstalled it, everything went back to normal.
So try to look for such apps which eat up your data in background, it may not be an error of android OS as such.
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Ive firewalled any app that I dont want using mobile network. (Like games and stuff).
My problem actually resolved on its own. Maybe it was something from the Google side of things. .I don't see that high android OS data usage anymore.
Thanks for the tip anyway.

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Today, above app was suddenly installed on my Note 4!
What purpose has this app and have more Note 4-users this app on his/her phone?
Can you check (please) in your app-manager (all files)?
henklbr said:
Today, above app was suddenly installed on my Note 4!
What purpose has this app and have more Note 4-users this app on his/her phone?
Can you check (please) in your app-manager (all files)?
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It's in the firmware already. There's a few apps like this pre installed
But why is it using data? I disabled facebook and have never used it yet this is running and according to data usage has also consumed 59MiB of background data!?
EkriirkE said:
But why is it using data? I disabled facebook and have never used it yet this is running and according to data usage has also consumed 59MiB of background data!?
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Just disable it...
pedmond said:
Just disable it...
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All options to do so are greyed out. It accumulates about 500KiB of storage and network data a day despite the actual app being disabled (and not once ever being launched ) the only thing I can do is clear the storage data.
This really bothers me.
EkriirkE said:
All options to do so are greyed out. It accumulates about 500KiB of storage and network data a day despite the actual app being disabled (and not once ever being launched ) the only thing I can do is clear the storage data.
This really bothers me.
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Seems you don't have root. But if you did then you'd have a few options eg uninstall, freeze. I can hear your frustration! Root!
tweeny80 said:
Seems you don't have root. But if you did then you'd have a few options eg uninstall, freeze. I can hear your frustration! Root!
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Correct; AFAIK the N910A Note 4 has yet to be rooted...
Thats what i did. Rooted and uninstalled along with other built in apps i dont use.
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Answer to facebook services on Andriod
I recently upgraded to the Galaxy S6, and wanted to remove any of the bloatware on the device. I disabled the FB app first, since I don't use it on any of my mobile devices. I then came across the com.facebook.appmanager and com.facebook.system applications listed under the application manager on the device. I first stopped and uninstalled the two apps, but I found that they both will update on their own over wi-fi once it's connected. I can't disable the two apps as that option is greyed out. I believe the answer to this is in the permissions of the appmanager stating that it may
1: Download files without notification
2: full network access
3: run at startup
Curiously after I have attempted to kill the app on any occasion that I'm using the device, I received an email from FB stating that they're sorry that I'm having trouble getting into my account. So, in conclusion, the apps must be gathering data (at least all configured email accounts) from the device and sending it to FB. Once FB identifies that an email address on the device matches an email account in their database, it sends the email. Looks like my next step is to root the device.
Galaxy S6 128 Gb on T-mobile
tried removing it using titanium backup
i tried removing this in my note 4 using titanium backup. sad to say it is making my auto rotate functionality unusable. it took me half day troubleshooting and identifying whats making auto rotate faulty. Why does Samsung loves bloatware? Its making me frustrated as i want to stay on touchwiz but it has so many bloatware. I dont want to go on other roms as majority of them are buggy. Does anybody know any solution with my problem? I dont want any freeze/disable solution pls.....
therussian87 said:
Thats what i did. Rooted and uninstalled along with other built in apps i dont use.
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ArixS said:
i tried removing this in my note 4 using titanium backup. sad to say it is making my auto rotate functionality unusable. it took me half day troubleshooting and identifying whats making auto rotate faulty. Why does Samsung loves bloatware? Its making me frustrated as i want to stay on touchwiz but it has so many bloatware. I dont want to go on other roms as majority of them are buggy. Does anybody know any solution with my problem? I dont want any freeze/disable solution pls.....
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I've heard about this before in a different thread. It's something to do with a lib that's in the app. Try renaming the apk to bak see if that works, might keep the lib
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Just disable it and you are done
Facebook wont self update anymore
And com.facebook.system
Same problem
I tried app called package disabler pro. There i searched for all com.facebook app/processes and disabled them. Now i dont see them any more in my process list in setting. The app costs littlebit but if it doesnt work, you can ask for you money back. It can also disable almost any bloatware.
henklbr said:
Today, above app was suddenly installed on my Note 4!
What purpose has this app and have more Note 4-users this app on his/her phone?
Can you check (please) in your app-manager (all files)?
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Hi,
If you're not rooted, just disable it. From my experience, it has something to do with Facebook auto update. I personally doesn't use the Facebook apk itself, I once disable it but it later come back with latest version installed. So you are fine to disable com.facebook.appmanager. However, if you're rooted, better not to uninstall these Facebook related services/apk. Again, from my experience, I might be WRONG, I once uninstall them completely, my air wake up (waking up the phone by hover over your proximity sensor) doesn't work anymore.
Conclusion: you can disable them just fine.

Low battery life on AOSP 5.1.1 Snapdragon ROM (V4)

So my battery isn't lasting nearly as much as I thought it would.. what about you guys?
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I also have this "Miscellaneous" thing consuming most of the battery, no idea of what it might be:
Shows as a 200Mah battery? Maybe its counting it wrong? Try draining to 0% and see how long you get.
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Shows as a 200Mah battery? Maybe its counting it wrong? Try draining to 0% and see how long you get.
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I tested with 2 other apps and they also measured it at 2000 mAh but it might be just because they get the info from the ROM... I don't know, I'm actually starting to worry about my phone, if it might be a defective unit...
I had same "picture" on first or second version (I don't remember now). But from third version this issue is absent. I think you must do:
1. Go in twrp
2. Choose option "Mount" and select: System, Data, Cache, Firmware and Persist.
3. Wape Dalvik, System, Cache, Data (it's for clean flashing of v.4).
4. Choose option "Install" and select v.4 and gapps (zip files).
5. Go to flash.
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I tested with 2 other apps and they also measured it at 2000 mAh but it might be just because they get the info from the ROM... I don't know, I'm actually starting to worry about my phone, if it might be a defective unit...
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Or a fake one
Wrong readings about this 2000mah... I dont have problems with battery on v4, browsing with wifi 1:30 sot, 85% remaining, 4.181v
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I had same "picture" on first or second version (I don't remember now). But from third version this issue is absent. I think you must do:
1. Go in twrp
2. Choose option "Mount" and select: System, Data, Cache, Firmware and Persist.
3. Wape Dalvik, System, Cache, Data (it's for clean flashing of v.4).
4. Choose option "Install" and select v.4 and gapps (zip files).
5. Go to flash.
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What exactly does "Mount" do?
This isn't just a visual bug, right? My battery is actually lower..
EDIT: Aren't GApps already included in the ROM zip?
SkinCoffin said:
What exactly does "Mount" do?
This isn't just a visual bug, right? My battery is actually lower..
EDIT: Aren't GApps already included in the ROM zip?
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1. You should mount partitions: System, Data, Cache, Firmware and Persist.
2. If you on v.3 or v.4 and you have this problem then you should do the clean flash of ROM (v.4) and GAPPS again.
s_wheel said:
1. You should mount partitions: System, Data, Cache, Firmware and Persist.
2. If you on v.3 or v.4 and you have this problem then you should do the clean flash of ROM (v.4) and GAPPS again.
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OK thanks, I will try that. What version of GApps do I flash? ARM, ARM64?
SkinCoffin said:
OK thanks, I will try that. What version of GApps do I flash? ARM, ARM64?
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5.1.1 for ARM64
s_wheel said:
5.1.1 for ARM64
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Thank you. I'm booting after doing all the other things you told me. Just out of curiosity, what exacty was the purpose of the "Mount" thing?
Running V4 myself and no battery drain for me.
Get at average ten hour screen time, do you have ambient display turned on by any chance? If so try disabling it.
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Running V4 myself and no battery drain for me.
Get at average ten hour screen time, do you have ambient display turned on by any chance? If so try disabling it.
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I did have it turned on, just disabled it. Will see how it pans out from here. I already did the clean install s_wheel told me to do (choose option "Mount" on TWRP and select: System, Data, Cache, Firmware and Persist. Wipe Dalvik, System, Cache, Data and then install V4 zip and gapps zip.) and it went alright, booted fine. Now I do not have the "Miscellaneous" thing anymore. It just seems that the battery is draining too fast. I'm at 80% with 1h of SOT (the phone has been on for 7h 30min, Wi-fi off, GPS off, LTE on), which would make 5h SOT total, which is half of what you and other guy told me you have. I did have ambient display turned on, let's see how it goes from now on. Anything else I can do to try and make it better? Thank you so far.
try turning Google now hotword off, and maybe google now altogether.. settings in search app
also wifi scanning in Wi-Fi settings
and have brightness on auto @60-65%, that's probably an average screen setting but will obviously vary depending on environment
edit, 1 more thing, check the phone is going into sleep mode when screen is off
meangreenie said:
try turning Google now hotword off, and maybe google now altogether.. settings in search app
also wifi scanning in Wi-Fi settings
and have brightness on auto @60-65%, that's probably an average screen setting but will obviously vary depending on environment
edit, 1 more thing, check the phone is going into sleep mode when screen is off
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Couldn't find Google Now Hotword.
I had Scanning Wi-Fi on. Should I disable "Keep WLAN on during sleep" too?
How do I check if the phone is going into sleep mode when the screen is off?
Thank you!
google now hotword settings are in the google app, open it say something then after its searched hold the recents to get options up, settings voice i think from there, you can sign out of google now cards from there too
to check sleep just use any cpu analyser app from the market..kernel auditor for example
with wifi just disable the always scanning, have the other options how you like it
edit, also another one to watch for is google play and google movies ect, uploading loads of files from any you might have loaded on the phones or sd memory.. check what's syncing the settings account section
meangreenie said:
google now hotword settings are in the google app, open it say something then after its searched hold the recents to get options up, settings voice i think from there, you can sign out of google now cards from there too
to check sleep just use any cpu analyser app from the market..kernel auditor for example
with wifi just disable the always scanning, have the other options how you like it
edit, also another one to watch for is google play and google movies ect, uploading loads of files from any you might have loaded on the phones or sd memory.. check what's syncing the settings account section
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Does that Google Now thing spend that much battery? I didn't know that. Yeah, I have that enabled, the "OK Google" voice detection. That's what you're talking about, right?
I downloaded Kernel Auditor and I can confirm the CPU has been going to deep sleep.
I didn't quite get the last one.. I don't have google movies but google play, obviously, yes, but uploading? Uploading what?
with Google play, i'm under the impression that if you load a lot of mp3 files onto your phone and you're signed up for Google play it will upload all your songs to the Google cloud. I'm probably wrong but thought I'd mention it as something to watch out for.
with google now and hotword detection, I've always seen that as a battery hog and is one of the first things i make sure is off when trying a new rom. others see it differently obviously.
edit, doh, yes i meant Google play music
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with Google play, i'm under the impression that if you load a lot of mp3 files onto your phone and you're signed up for Google play it will upload all your songs to the Google cloud. I'm probably wrong but thought I'd mention it as something to watch out for.
with google now and hotword detection, I've always seen that as a battery hog and is one of the first things i make sure is off when trying a new rom. others see it differently obviously.
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Oh, you mean Google Play Music? I don't use it, don't have it installed. I use Shuffle+.
OK I've disabled the cards and hotword detection, I'll try them on and off a bit and see how it goes. Thanks!
So the miscellaneous thing is back.. And only 2h of screen on time at 50%.. And all this after a clean install.

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