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I finally made the change to a QI enabled back cover to get some wireless charging on my LG G3. I bought the Itian A6 on Amazon from the seller Docooler. I like it but I have a huge complaint and I want to know if it is normal. I understood going into it that the charging would be a bit slower but the times I've charged the LG G3 from 5%, it took 4+ hours to charge to 100%. This seems really excessive. Wired charging would usually take me about 2 hours to fully charge from 5%. Do I have a defective charger or is the super long time it takes to charge wireless really how long it's suppose to take? Please give your feedback and opinions, thanks.
Bueller? There has to be some input people can give, even if it's not from the same wireless charger.
I use PMA and not Qi because I have the AT&T model G3, but I've noticed similar results sometimes. Typically I only put it on the wireless charger while sleeping so I don't notice the charging time, but there was once where I charged while awake and noticed it took a bit longer. Make sure its in the best contact position.
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I use PMA and not Qi because I have the AT&T model G3, but I've noticed similar results sometimes. Typically I only put it on the wireless charger while sleeping so I don't notice the charging time, but there was once where I charged while awake and noticed it took a bit longer. Make sure its in the best contact position.
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Thanks for your response. My wireless charging has been getting worse. The last two nights I've charged over night, it got a good 6-8 hours and it still wasn't fully charged and the phone was pretty hot. I always place the phone smack in the middle of the charger making sure it's centered.
Does it have a magnet to center it? The PMA charger centers the phone so that you have optimal charging and I don't think I've ever noticed heat issues.
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I use PMA and not Qi because I have the AT&T model G3, but I've noticed similar results sometimes. Typically I only put it on the wireless charger while sleeping so I don't notice the charging time, but there was once where I charged while awake and noticed it took a bit longer. Make sure its in the best contact position.
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No, there is no magnet but the charger is slim enough to know you got it centered. I tried to wireless charge without having the phone on to see if there maybe was an app that was keeping it from charging faster but apparently the phone needs to be on to do wireless charging. It automatically turns on when I put it on the wireless charger. The charging has just got worse on the wireless charger. It charges fine wired. Wonder if it may be the charger or the QI replacement cover...
Maybe try a different charger. If I had Qi I could probably help more. Maybe someone with Qi will chime in.
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Absolutely normal...
WIRED you are using a 1.8A charger... when you connect this same charger or a 2A to the QI pad, you get only 800mha to 1A to charge via wireless (because of loss, thats why you get the heat)
ALL QI charging pads are like that, there is no top tier, more expensive QI pad that will charge above 1A, the tech just doesnt work like that
The second generation of wireless chargers are coming and they can go way beyond that and even charge from more then a few inches....
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Absolutely normal...
WIRED you are using a 1.8A charger... when you connect this same charger or a 2A to the QI pad, you get only 800mha to 1A to charge via wireless (because of loss, thats why you get the heat)
ALL QI charging pads are like that, there is no top tier, more expensive QI pad that will charge above 1A, the tech just doesnt work like that
The second generation of wireless chargers are coming and they can go way beyond that and even charge from more then a few inches....
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Are you saying the 4+ hour charging time to full is normal or the 6-8 hour charging time? I read from other people that in general they noticed that charge time on the wireless charger was only a bit longer from wired which is why the 4+ hour charging time surprised me. I am thinking of exchanging the charger to see if it makes any difference.
If you check the people using wired charging, you see they take about 2 hours to charge 5% to 100%
and this is using almost 2A
so charging limited to 800mha to 1A it would take double the time (more or less e to 4 hours)
Thats the reason why i still use wire charger. I read a lot about that and many posts mentored same charging time as you did and sounds ok.
You can see that your wire charger have output 1.8A to charge and the most of wireless chargers have real output of 0.8. With this calculation, more then 2 times slower is complete normal.
I never timed my wireless charging until last night. It charged from 1% to full in under 3hrs. This is with the Duracell Powermat and not Qi. That may be the difference. Either way, I've been satisfied with the powermat.
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Something internally probably limits all QI chargers to a certain amperage. My Tylt Vu takes about the same amount of time to go from 0 to 100. The technology is still in its infancy stage. I'd recommend using it as an overnight charger.
My current wireless charger will charge my phone to 100% and then quit for the rest of the night, leaving my phone at around 95% when I wake up. Is there a better charger to remedy this?
I went back to a Kidigi wired charger to get around that. I rely on the clock feature of the dock, so that was a real turnoff for me.
Tylt Vu, 100% every morning.
Using the Incipio Ghost 100 from when I had my DNA. Works perfect.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LE6X5VU?keywords=qi charger&qid=1455841206&ref_=sr_1_11&sr=8-11
Ive been using it for over a year, always at 100% in the morning.
I've been using the Choe stadium charger I like it so much I got a second for the office.
Nokia DT-900.
Bonus is that this dock, which was originally around $60, can be found for about $15 on the third party market now...
what's wrong with the turbo charger that it shipped with?
buschris said:
what's wrong with the turbo charger that it shipped with?
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its not wireless
three west said:
Tylt Vu, 100% every morning.
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+1 for Tylt Vu
Also have the Spigen wireless charger that you have to use with your stock charger. It works great most of the time, but occasionally it'll stop working and needs to be unplugged/replugged back in.
no charger is "wireless". What I meant was, is your charging pad plugged to the stock turbo charger and stock cable?
I am using the EXILIENT CHARGING PLATE
SAME WITH ME BUT ON THE BRIGHT SIDE IT SAVES YOUR BATTERY FROM OVERCHARGING AND HEATING, moreover if you use quick charger with the charging plate you get full within 3 hours!!! ain't BAD.:good:
Another vote for the tylt vu. It technically stops charging, but my phone is always at 100% when I pick it up. It does turn off the charging light, but I am assuming that is to keep it from cooking a battery.
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bluefalcon13 said:
Another vote for the tylt vu. It technically stops charging, but my phone is always at 100% when I pick it up. It does turn off the charging light, but I am assuming that is to keep it from cooking a battery.
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I've settled on the Vu as well. It stops charging once the battery is full (a few mins after the phone registers 100%). If the battery dips back down to 99% during idle, it kicks back on and tops the battery off back to 100% and turns off again.
The Vu is my fav charging stand because it doesn't have bright, obnoxious charging LED indicators. Just a nice dim green LED that doesn't light up my entire room at night.
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IT SAVES YOUR BATTERY FROM OVERCHARGING AND HEATING
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The charging rate is controlled by the handset, not by the charger, so it is not possible to "overcharge" your battery.
It is also extremely unlikely that any increase in temperature from charging will cause any deleterious effect to the battery - this will have been taken into account as part of the design of the charging circuit.
The TYLT VU is good, but it's $50.
The Nokia DT-900 is just as good a charger, and on the third party market it's now about $15.
Your choice...but I can think of other things to do with $35 than give it to TYLT.
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Nokia DT-900.
Bonus is that this dock, which was originally around $60, can be found for about $15 on the third party market now...
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That's the charger I use and it's great
It is not the wireless charger stops charging. It's the software in the phone that shuts off the charging.
Philip said:
The charging rate is controlled by the handset, not by the charger, so it is not possible to "overcharge" your battery.
It is also extremely unlikely that any increase in temperature from charging will cause any deleterious effect to the battery - this will have been taken into account as part of the design of the charging circuit.
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Agreeable for nexus 6 which has inherent wireless charging inbuilt, I am using an external wireless case for my iPhone 5s can you please hint on this aspect also.
Thanks in anticipation.
Colonel Singh
amanamarsingh said:
Agreeable for nexus 6 which has inherent wireless charging inbuilt, I am using an external wireless case for my iPhone 5s can you please hint on this aspect also.
Thanks in anticipation.
Colonel Singh
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Sorry - I know nothing (and nor do I want to know anything!) about iPhones.
However, as a general rule, charging is normally managed by the handset, not by the charger.
Choetech 3 coil fast charger
http://amzn.com/B017U9FVKW $36.00
Fast Charge 2.0 AC Adapter (needed for our S7 because OEM S7 AC Adapter will NOT work!!)
http://amzn.com/B00X4U1KD4 $9.00
The 3 coil plate is incredibly convenient to charge and is much more forgiving for a good connect for the wireless charging to begin. I have a Ringke case and also read even the Otter cases are no challenge for a contact point since it has 3 coils to choose from. The Quick charge 2.0 ac adapter was one of the cheapest that were also Qualcomm 2.0 certified. You don't need a 3.0 because our S7's are only 2.0 compliant. Don't waste money buying a Quick Charge adapter that is 3.0 or over $10.
For me this has worked really well with my case and I can charge fully in what I would guess 2.5 hours. I usually just casually have it charging well before the battery is low so I can't really tell you except I did get a full charge around 2 hrs before which for a wireless Qi really is a fast charge compared to the old 0.5 amp output days.
Take my advice for what it is and let me spare you the hour of research in comparing hardware and learning about what Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 is and why our S7s don't even need the 3.0 version.
I might go for a substantially more expensive three-coil wireless charging pad, if it were my only one. But the convenience of wireless charging is so great, that I have one near my bed, one at work, one in my home office, and one in the kitchen. Two coils are good enough for me. Most of the time I get my S7 placed on the first try.
FWIW, I think fast wireless charging pads have become commodity items. I have both Choetech and Pleson, and would buy on price.
Can you tell me what rate you get?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
I have a cheapo wireless and get between 300 and 550 mah
Got this one too, I do like it.
Battery monitor tells me it's just over 700mA, but it's during nights, when sleep tracking is active too.
i have the car remote charger too, but that one can barely keep up while driving with Waze (screen always in night colors, low intensity)
btw: temperature rises to 41 degrees celcius.
Bright.Light said:
Got this one too, I do like it.
Battery monitor tells me it's just over 700mA, but it's during nights, when sleep tracking is active too.
i have the car remote charger too, but that one can barely keep up while driving with Waze (screen always in night colors, low intensity)
btw: temperature rises to 41 degrees celcius.
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Yeah.... I've noticed this as well, unfortunately it only "fast charges" with the screen off. With the screen on you get around 200-300mA. For me, 200-300mA is not good enough and I lose probably 1% every half hour driving. I have however noticed that if the phone is at 95% it will pull more current from the wireless charger and will stay at 100%.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the LG G6 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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I have used the charger that came with it (since it was the only USB-C cable I had at the time) and it charged amazingly fast. I bought a Wireless charger as well which is also amazingly fast. It's my first wireless charging experience and I was told it trickle charges so it would be much slower than charging from the cable, but I barely notice a difference in speed at all. I keep checking the phone what seems like every couple of minutes if not seconds and the % has increased by a lot more than I would have imagined. I thought wireless charging to be pointless and a who-cares ordeal, but not that I have experienced it... I don't think I will go back to a device without it (not for a phone at least). I'm not sure if any health issues can be there from radiation, but I'm almost dead anyway (well... I have about 50 years to go I guess) so I don't really care, lol.
For those wondering, I went with the CHOETECH Qi Model T513 wireless charger. Input: DC5V/2A (Max) Output: 7.5W which I purchased from Amazon for only $19.95. That was 50% off at the time I purchased it, but that was only a few days ago so you might want to check on it.
Really? I feel my g6 charges way slower then my S7 edge. I still have it but I'm gonna test this tomorrow.
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I have used the charger that came with it (since it was the only USB-C cable I had at the time) and it charged amazingly fast. I bought a Wireless charger as well which is also amazingly fast. It's my first wireless charging experience and I was told it trickle charges so it would be much slower than charging from the cable, but I barely notice a difference in speed at all. I keep checking the phone what seems like every couple of minutes if not seconds and the % has increased by a lot more than I would have imagined. I thought wireless charging to be pointless and a who-cares ordeal, but not that I have experienced it... I don't think I will go back to a device without it (not for a phone at least). I'm not sure if any health issues can be there from radiation, but I'm almost dead anyway (well... I have about 50 years to go I guess) so I don't really care, lol.
For those wondering, I went with the CHOETECH Qi Model T513 wireless charger. Input: DC5V/2A (Max) Output: 7.5W which I purchased from Amazon for only $19.95. That was 50% off at the time I purchased it, but that was only a few days ago so you might want to check on it.
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Really? I feel my g6 charges way slower then my S7 edge. I still have it but I'm gonna test this tomorrow.
Went and picked up this bad boy today. LS variant. Out of the box, had 41%. Using my car charger Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0(yes 2.0) and the included USB C, it charged to 70% in the 20 minute drive back to my house. For using the old QC tech, still charged amazingly fast. I have a QC3.0 39W wall charger that got delivered this afternoon. Will wait til this baby dies and charge her up with that and will report back.
Ive noticed when using a QC 3.0 charger and cable doesnt seem like the g6 is actually charging faster. Its suppose to support QC but its not.
I'm finding this charges a lot slower than my S7 Edge as well. Using the provided cable and charger it takes about 2.5 hours to go from 5% to full which is generally fine, but there isn't a burst and then trickle. I appreciated being able to plug my phone in for a short time when it was low and top it up enough to go out and not worry about it dying. Can't really do that with this one.
I had a power brick laying around and says qualcomm 2.0 and it charge`s really fast, like 1% of battery every min. , but yes with the stock charger brick takes forever to charge.
Using a Xiaomi USB C charger (45W) which supports both UPD 2.0 and QC 3.0, my phone charged very fast.
Mine charges super fast with the supplied charger. I plugged in with 11% yesterday and hit 50% in like 25 minutes.
quick charging is convenient and all, but is there a way to revert to normal charging? I don't want to accelerate my cycles. Thanks.
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quick charging is convenient and all, but is there a way to revert to normal charging? I don't want to accelerate my cycles. Thanks.
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Use a non-QC charger.
thanks. I'll do that, I have to get extra cables anyway. Although I was wondering if there was a way to hack it phone-wise.
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I'm finding this charges a lot slower than my S7 Edge as well. Using the provided cable and charger it takes about 2.5 hours to go from 5% to full which is generally fine, but there isn't a burst and then trickle. I appreciated being able to plug my phone in for a short time when it was low and top it up enough to go out and not worry about it dying. Can't really do that with this one.
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the charger that comes with the device doesn't support QC3, it's a QC2 charger.
so, getting a QC3 charger would defiantly decrease the charging time :good:
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the charger that comes with the device doesn't support QC3, it's a QC2 charger.
so, getting a QC3 charger would defiantly decrease the charging time :good:
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I'm pretty sure the supplies charger is QC3.
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I'm pretty sure the supplies charger is QC3.
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Silly question - is there an easy way to tell if a charger is QC2 or QC3?
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Silly question - is there an easy way to tell if a charger is QC2 or QC3?
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Look to the charger specification, if it supports only 5v and 9v then is QC2. QC3 scales on various voltage between 5 and 12 volts.
And yes, the provided charger is QC2, probably the same Found with the G5.
Yeah I take back what I said. The supplied charger does appear to "only" be QC 3. It still seems faster then QC2 though. Maybe it's just in my head. It works for my needs though, I can get almost 50% in like 20.
Charge in airplane mode when you can. When you have no worries of anyone calling or texting. With wifi off as well you'll see a decent jump in fast charging.
purchased by phone a couple of days back and it charged from 5% to 100% in approx 1.40 mins with the stock QC 2.0. I'm damn impressed....
Let me Ask y'all something. Coming from a LG G4 and just Charging My Batteries by a OEM Battery Charger I got 2HRs More of SOT. When I charge via the USB Quick Charger I got the same 3HRs as usual. So I got 5 while charging Slower then the SO-Called Quick Charging. To my understanding Batteries are meant to Slow-Charge rather then Fast
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Essential Phone can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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They claim that a 5 mins charge gets you 5 hours of battery. 1 hour and 30 minutes for a complete charge.
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Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
27W to be exact. And on another video review, it showed 5v @ 3A and 9v @ 3A on the charger. So this thing should charge pretty quick and I assume is just using the native USB-C Fast Charge capability which is just fine.
I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
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So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
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Yup, that would be a lie. Just because you have a 835, they would have to still implement QC themselves in order to leverage it.
And I believe Qualcomm loves to charge a pretty penny to flip that bit on for your device.
The device may still charge pretty quickly, but we will need some reports from those who have it in hand.
Anyone with it already have AccuBattery installed and see what the charging speed is plugged into its charger?
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I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
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From a review I watched, they said that the charger is capable of Charing 5 hours of usage time in 5 minutes.
I tried my s8 charger on it, the charger quickly heated up and stopped charging the device
When using the S8 charger, it show slow charging... Sucks
Soooo... What's wrong with using the included charger?
And Samsung uses some other form of Fast Charging that's proprietary to their own devices. It isn't Qualcomm quick charge at least at the generic level. Essential just uses the USB-C 3A fast charge ability which you will have to get separate from both Samsung or QC2/3.0 stuff which is a bit of a pain, but really not surprising. Same as the Nexus/Pixel devices.
It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
I plugged in an Ailey quick charge charger. It first said charging slowly then changed to charging rapidly.
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It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
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That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
For those using Quick Charge to the PH-1, it is only compatible with QC 4.0 and not QC 3.0 or below. QC 4.0 is compatible with Power Delivery (PD) that PH-1 uses.
27W USB Charger
Just got mine today... It says 27W...
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Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
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Just got mine today... It says 27W...
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Yeah.. that should be average.
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That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
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Quick charge or no quick charge, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to charge faster than 3% overnight. It still said charging slowly when I got up this morning and said 5 days until full. It had actually only gone up 3% in the past 9 hours.
My battery is at 96% so it may not be the most accurate test, and it was over 1000mah on initial plug in and then slowly went down to what's on the screen shot after about a minute.