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Hello everybody!
I've got two questions:
Since I'll be receiving my direly awaited S6 Edge 64gb tomorrow, I have two questions which I couldn't really get any good answers for.
The first one is about the speed of charging. Since the battery in the S6E can't be switched so easy, I'm a bit concerned about battery health, especially since I plan on using the phone for a long time (budget is tight). Now with my last phone (which unfortunately I had to sell in order to come up with the money for the S6E) I used one of my computers USB ports to charge the phone over night. I read somewhere, that it's better for the battery to be charged slowly and since my computer powers the front USB even when switched off, I always used it to slowly charge the phone overnight. It would be faster charging with a wall outlet, but I didnt need it to, so I figured it would be beneficial for the health of the battery.
Is that actually true? Is there maybe even some way to keep the phone from charging higher than 80%?
My second question is about wireless charging. I'd really like to get a wireless charger for my desk at work, however I will be using this ->
*cant post the link, it's the "Galaxy S6 Edge Case, Spigen [CURVED BUMPER] Neo Hybrid Series Case for Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge - Satin Silver (SGP11420)" case
case on the phone. Are there any wireless chargers, that will go "through" that case?
If so, do these chargers charge so fast, that they let the battery health deteriorate? Do they stop charging when the battery is full or is there danger for overcharging or heat building up because of the case?
Thank you guys very much in advance for answers, I'm just really looking forward to the phone and I'm eager to do everything right ^^:fingers-crossed:
You shouldn't worry really. There are rampant unjustified myths about quick-charging. If your device is designed for that feature, the processor and software work in conjunction to prevent damage to the battery. The turbo charger provides large amperage to charge quickly, then reduces at an appropriate level. I've used turbo or quick charging since the Motorola Droid Maxx 4 years ago. Today, those Maxx still function as well as the first day. I do not purchase any device that does not have turbo charging. As far as wireless charging, a decent charging plate should have no issue. I use only TYLT and I build furniture around these things. I put glass top over them and never have problems charging.
Thanks so much
Do all the wireless chargers feature "Turbo charging", or do you mean charging with a wall outlet by that?
I've read in some reviews, that in combination with the S6, the tylt charger tends to fully charge the phone, then stop charging, then after a while commences charging again, leading to the phone screen lighting up and the "phone is charging" notification sound playing, then turning off again when the battery is fully charged and so on.
Did you experience any of this?
@myh0mie I guess we are in the same state, I'm also receiving my S6 Edge on tuesday and have been having the same questions as you have about charging this thread will come in handy
@quangtran1 If you use the fast charger on your S6 Edge, are you also experiencing the screen rotation issues people are suggesting that are caused by the fast charger? I really wanna know how i should be charging my phone to avoid damage once i receive it. Thanks in advance
I myself do not have the screen rotation issue with fast charging. I do know, however, that Samsung has acknowledged this on "a very small number of S6 devices, and has the solution to resolve it". Samsung did not disclose whether this was a hardware or software issue. @myh0mie Wireless charging does not offer fast charging. Fast charging comes from the 2-amp wall block.
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I myself do not have the screen rotation issue with fast charging. I do know, however, that Samsung has acknowledged this on "a very small number of S6 devices, and has the solution to resolve it". Samsung did not disclose whether this was a hardware or software issue. @myh0mie Wireless charging does not offer fast charging. Fast charging comes from the 2-amp wall block.
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Oh cool then it's good to hear that it seems like it's NOT the fast charger that causing the issue and the fact that Samsung already has a solution to it
I haven't had a screen rotation issue either, on a 64GB Edge (AT&T).
As far as methods of charging, seems like the "Adaptive Fast Charging" is definitely the fastest way to charge the phone. The feature only seems to work with the packaged charger, though. I have a few 5V 2Amp chargers that don't charge my phone as fast as the packaged Samsung charger. It's extremely effective when you're very low on battery life, below 25%.
If you look at the Samsung charger label, it says it outputs at 9V 1.67Amp OR 5V 2Amp. The 5V 2A is standard on many chargers. The 9V 1.67A must be the Adaptive Fast Charging.
For wireless charging, I purchased a few PowerBot Qi chargers (very good price and reviews on Amazon) and supplied them with 5V 2A power to keep myself topped off at work and overnight. To me, they seem to charge the phone at about the same speed as a generic 5V 1A power source.
My last phone was a HTC One M7 and I kept a close eye on the temperature with an app called Cool Tool. I still run the M7 in the same operating environment as my S6 and have noticed that the S6 runs 10-15 degrees (Fahrenheit) cooler than the M7 in both charging and non-charging states. Hope that helps.
I have the S6 edge with the TYLT desk charger and the TYLT car charger dock. Neither of them charge the phone quickly at all. I am not a fan of either really, but I use the desk charger on my desk at work and it is fine to keep the phone topped up throughout the work day (I forget it's even there). The car one, however, is going back. It charges hellishly slow, especially if you run any tasks like music streaming or GPS. Not a fan.
I just got my C5 Ultra Dual 3 days ago... and the main disappointment of this phablet is the battery. Because the battery drains really fast, so i have to charge it twice a day. Actually it doesn't really matter, but this phone really have a super sloooow charging. When i checked the desktop charger, it only give 850 mAh output (meanwhile other phones' official charger alreade give 1,5-2 A output).
I'm thinking of buying Sony EP881 Fast Charging (1,5A output), does it really charges C5 faster?
or do you know any other "faster" charger that compatible for our C5?
Thank you
Using an old note 3 2amp charger, makes it charge faster, but would also like to know re ep881
I tried to charge using my old Zenfone 5 charger (1.35A) and it is indeed faster, my friend's Z1 also charges faster.
But when I use my iPad Air charger (2.4A) it's slow just like the desktop charger (850 mA).
So yeah because of this mixed results, I'd also like to know how fast it would charge with the EP881.
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I am using a Samsung high speed travel charger which gives out 2.1a. Very fast and charges my C5 Ultra in around 2 hours...
guys,
i also bought a new sony c5 dual ultra phone couple of days before.
phone is dead now and unable to charge it from sony charger.i tried with computer usb port also.
please suggest me something.
senthilrmohan said:
guys,
i also bought a new sony c5 dual ultra phone couple of days before.
phone is dead now and unable to charge it from sony charger.i tried with computer usb port also.
please suggest me something.
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Return it for repairs or replacement...
dear
kanej2006 said:
Return it for repairs or replacement...
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i bought it in dubai airport during my transit.
is it possible to check with them.
senthilrmohan said:
i bought it in dubai airport during my transit.
is it possible to check with them.
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Oh dear. There are two options.
1 - Try returning the phone to the nearest Sony dealer. Show the original receipt which will show the device is new and still under warranty. Hopefully they can resolve the issue.
2 - Sony may ask you to return it to the shop where it was bought. Unfortunately you may have to return it to the shop you bought it from in Dubai Airport. They will most likely send the unit off to Sony for repair or replacement.
That said, try option 1, much more convenient. Hopefully they can solve your problem without having to mess about returning it to the original shop which happens to be in another country! Otherwise you may even have to ship the item along with the receipt to the shop. Once they receive the unit they will advise you on what they will do and how long it will take for it to be fixed/replaced. Once that has been completed, they will need to ship it back to you.
Either way, good luck and let us know what happens!
Bought this phone when I was in Thailand when I killed my Nexus 6 by walking into the ocean while it was in my pocket..lol. Anyways, the phone is slow at charging, not like my Nexus 6 which takes only 15 mins to charge fully. I switched to the Motorola Nexus 6's turbo charger and my C5 is charging A LOT faster. Standard charging is 5V @1.6A, Turbo 1 is 9V @ 1.6A, and Turbo 2 is 12V @ 1.2A. Not sure if the C5 is a Turbo charging enabled device but it's definitely charging way faster than the stock charger.
zarerraldin said:
I just got my C5 Ultra Dual 3 days ago... and the main disappointment of this phablet is the battery. Because the battery drains really fast, so i have to charge it twice a day. Actually it doesn't really matter, but this phone really have a super sloooow charging. When i checked the desktop charger, it only give 850 mAh output (meanwhile other phones' official charger alreade give 1,5-2 A output).
I'm thinking of buying Sony EP881 Fast Charging (1,5A output), does it really charges C5 faster?
or do you know any other "faster" charger that compatible for our C5?
Thank you
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I've used my old Samsung charger that came with my old s4 and the charger puts out 5.0v at 2amps. And I used it on the original z ultra and I tested it on my new c ultra and it works great however I have realized that these particular phablets really don't charge that fast and from my experience they never have but they are at best average when it comes to charging. Oh by the way I also have the original Sony charger u s version and I see vary little differents in the amount of time it takes to charge
But will it damage the battery or affect the battery life if we use a 2A-5V charger??
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But will it damage the battery or affect the battery life if we use a 2A-5V charger??
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Not at all...
Are u sure charger giving 1.5-2A output if used with c5 ultra will not harm the phone
Seshcena said:
Are u sure charger giving 1.5-2A output if used with c5 ultra will not harm the phone
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Not at all.
I use various chargers (Anker, Samsung, LG, Apple) and all of them work better than original, but you should leave the phone idle when charging.
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But will it damage the battery or affect the battery life if we use a 2A-5V charger??
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The phone charges on maximum ampere it can take (~2A) no matter the charger is 100A as long as the output stays 5V.
Yes but what will happen if we use the phone while charging. Please tell the consequences
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Yes but what will happen if we use the phone while charging. Please tell the consequences
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I played Candy Crush Saga when charging. The phone can be hot but it doesn't make your hands uncomfortable.
What happens if we change charger means sometimes use 2A charger, sometimes 1A or 1.5A
The amp rating on chargers are the max it can output. It doesn't mean it has to output that. Your phone's charge circuitry will control the current it actually draws. So there is absolutely no danger to use a higher amperage charger with your phone. However, I found that no matter what charger I use, including those rated up to 2.4A, the C5 is very slow to charge. It takes a lot longer to charge compared to any other phone I've had in the past. I'm going to get a current monitoring device to check actual current draw.
A side note: avoid REV (sold on BestBuy) external battery because the phone refuses to charge while Asus 10050mAh and TSST 5Ah and 10Ah external battery charge fine.
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The amp rating on chargers are the max it can output. It doesn't mean it has to output that. Your phone's charge circuitry will control the current it actually draws. So there is absolutely no danger to use a higher amperage charger with your phone. However, I found that no matter what charger I use, including those rated up to 2.4A, the C5 is very slow to charge. It takes a lot longer to charge compared to any other phone I've had in the past. I'm going to get a current monitoring device to check actual current draw.
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In my case, if the battery is 5% or less, it'll take around 3 1/2 hours to charge. However, should the battery be 25-30% it'll just take around 2 hours to fully charge...
Just wondering if anyone has every used a fast charge QI charger and what were your results.
I bought the Samsung Fast Charge Wireless Dock and it works flawlessly with my MXF , the coils align perfectly and charging time is about the same as a standard 2000mAh charger
Only draw back, on a full charge (for example from 20% to 100%) the phone gets really hot , lot warmer than with the original Moto Turbo Charger
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I bought the Samsung Fast Charge Wireless Dock and it works flawlessly with my MXF , the coils align perfectly and charging time is about the same as a standard 2000mAh charger
Only draw back, on a full charge (for example from 20% to 100%) the phone gets really hot , lot warmer than with the original Moto Turbo Charger
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The excessive heat concern is the reason I sold my Wireless Charger on Craig's List.
In my opinion, the phone/battery got much too hot with wireless charging and I did not want to damage the battery.
Pouic said:
I bought the Samsung Fast Charge Wireless Dock and it works flawlessly with my MXF , the coils align perfectly and charging time is about the same as a standard 2000mAh charger
Only draw back, on a full charge (for example from 20% to 100%) the phone gets really hot , lot warmer than with the original Moto Turbo Charger
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Hi Pouic,
I've 3 Qi chargers, and only one have a warm issue. It worked great with the original ROM, but I flashed CM13 and got this issue.
On my 2 other QI chargers, I've no problems !
what qi chargers do you have?
I have a choetech standup fast charger. Works a treat. Phone doesn't get too hot
Was planning on using the fast charger that came with my S6 Active to keep at work. It still fast charges my S6 but when I use it with my S9 it only slow charges. I've checked the markings on the charger and they are exactly the same as on the charger that came with my S9 even down to the model number except for 1 thing. One says made in China and the other says made in Vietnam.
The fact that the old one still fast charges my S6 to me rules out the charger being faulty. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
Ive been experiencing the same problem with my Mi power bank 2i.
When i connect it to S9 plus ots gives Fast charging message and then turns to cable charging.
I hope they rectify it in a patch.
This is ridiculously bad as i travel a lot and only depend on power babk 2i as it fast charges all samsung phones.
Any1 else having same problem ?
The charger that came with my S7 fast charges the S9+ without any issue, as does the 3rd party car charger I'm using. Does the one that came with you S9 fast charge properly? Are you using the cable that came with your S9 with the old charger?
I have a ton of chargers. The one that came with my nexus 6, my ATT prime time tablet, and my LG v20 and LG v495 tablet all fast charge my 9+. They are all Qualcomm fast charge 2/3. My Anker qc3 does fast charging as well. Variety of cables, some generic, some LG.
If I think of it when I get home I'll check my power bank. It's a qc 3.0 and is a 10k mah I think. Was 20ish dollars on Amazon.
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The charger that came with my S7 fast charges the S9+ without any issue, as does the 3rd party car charger I'm using. Does the one that came with you S9 fast charge properly? Are you using the cable that came with your S9 with the old charger?
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Yep, the charger that came with my S9+ works perfectly, and yes I am using the cable that came with my S9+
I have the same issue with an ANKER charger and CHOETECH cable that was working perfectly with my S8+...
i charged the my s9+ after draining it completely without powering it ON.
Charged in 100mins.
The progress was like 15 mins -24%,45 mins - 60%, 80 mins - 90%, this is the first time i was able to charge it quickly.
I was very disappointed with charging time but this is third cycle, so i am sure its learning the way we use.
I charged it with QC3.0 charger
I will be posting more about this.
I think I have a Fast Charge problem with my AT&T branded S9+. Fast charging displays when I use the included cable and wall adapter and even if I use the included wall adapter and any of These Aukey Cables. But if I use those cables or even the cable included with the phone with This Aukey QC 3.0 Car Charger or This Anker QC 3.0 Power Bank I cannot get Fast Charging to display. Yes Fast Charging is enabled in Battery --> advanced. It worked for the first couple days with all combinations but now its as described. Even did a factory reset last night and restored from my previous phone's Google Backup which I did not do the first time (used Smart Switch the initial startup on launch day and only moved a few things over) Should I swap the phone out for another?
Im getting the same issue when using Aukey power bank. It does not fast charge my S9+. Works perfectly on S7 and S8. Do you guys have any luck?
Any resolutions for this? Same is happening to me. Is there a particular brand of cable that might help?
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Any resolutions for this? Same is happening to me. Is there a particular brand of cable that might help?
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Most of my cables are Choetech brand from Amazon. Every single QC 2.0 charger fast charges my s9+
Just throwing this out there to rule it out, you can enable/disable wireless charging in the Advanced Features, Accessories section, check it's on.
Same here? Is this a bug introduced by a firmware update? Why aren't enough ppl talking about it
I have seen many people complaining about their 27w Xiaomi charger with problem of not turbo charging, low charging current, overheat, dont work with 20w charger, and etc. And I one of the these guys too. I have ordered two times 27w loosepack charger from chinese online shop and all are fakes. They dont give me consistent turbo charging and dont charge faster than 18w! This pissed me off because there are so many loosepacks out there and the original ones comes from 20w wireless charging bundling box, from mi 9 chinese box, or from 27w charger with box packaging which none of that chinese online shop sell that, all only loosepack which high risk of counterfeits.
Yesterday I bought the 27w charger with box in my local online shop. The seller told me he got the charger from local store in china and bought it to my country. After the charger arrives i tested in and yeah finally I got the original one. I always get "charge turbo" whenever i charge and measurement in ampere App can reach 4800mA which I never get even 3000mA with 18w or that fake 27w one.
So I made a comparison video of those original vs fake charger. I hope it can help you guys who experienced same like me and want to find the original ones. Here is my youtube video link:
https://youtu.be/xx-P6BxZzkU
If you want to see video later, here is also attached the quick glance of my both orig and fake ones. They do have difference in printing quality. And the Ampere screenshot of original charger for reference.
Great. Where can you get the original one?
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Great. Where can you get the original one?
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I got it from someone who bought it from chinese local store.
If you want get the original one, you need to buy charger with official packaging box. Can be a bundle with 20w wireless, or standalone with box like i bought, but its very rare.
Specifically: aliexpress. Search the shop and see the feedbacks. Look for shop which can provide 20w wireless bundling in one box
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
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Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
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Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
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Yes 30w if you use the type c connector or at least that what they claim.
But since max supported for our device is 27w it is kinda useless.
But nevertheless I will make sure to post here once I get it and try it
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Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
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Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
It is not true that the original is only in a transparent box. I got it without this transparent box and it works well.
Thanks for the great infos, I'll post again when I get my 27W charger I ordered from AliExpress!
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
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Can your 30w charger turbo charge mi 9?
So, anyone has a link to a reliable and tested seller on aliexpress for the 27w charger?
Here's a post to a review of the original 27 W charger ordered from Alixepress. I saw his review on a German forum too. You can also see a screenshot from the Ampere app. Looks legit. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79569598&postcount=87
Direct link to Alixepress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974660297.html
You can also check reviews there, several people wrote that Charging Turbo works, you can also see it in their photos.
Personally, I've order the charger from here a week ago: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33001884969.html
Almost every photo review shows Charge Turbo, so hopefully it's true. I just have to wait until it arrives to try it out.
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
UPD. I checked were from i have ordered the original : https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3470060?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dazyZc0
I have got 27w+cable+20w wireless charger+eu plug, from that store and they came in one package. So i don't know if only the charger will be original. It was shipped ~10 days to Israel.
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I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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You should measure it when charge is still below 50%, after that charging current starts to drop.
It might be the case yours is a very good fake charger
I will also compare charging times with mine and the. post the results in a couple of days.
Hello guys,
I bought and recieved this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000669695.html
And it shows "Charge Turbo" as well as about 4700-5000ma using Ampere.
Hope it helps
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@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
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Phone showing charge turbo or not is not determined by the current. I have tested both mode in fake charger, the currents are almost same. It may be determined by that protocol or compatibility thing. When the cable is plugged in and your phone detects that charger is compatible, it will trigger turbo charging mode and allowing more currents to enter inside. But in fake chargers, although it have been already allowed, the charger hardware dont have capability to do that.
I can't test current using usb meter too because it caused the phone cant read the charger compatibility. So in the video i compare currents with app ampere. As long the voltage in app are about same, it can be compared.
About safe or not, i recommend you not to use it. The temperature in fake ones is noticeably higher when charging than the original, even the original has bigger output current.